It's the little things in life :')In post 310, farside22 wrote:If you have one I don't object to you switching
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I don't have trouble seeing how Kraska could learn what AtE is within 5 games but not learn about the loved and hated modifier.In post 305, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
I AM NEW TO FORUM MAFIA.In post 302, kraska77 wrote:
I'm new to forum mafia. Loved/hated don't even remotely sound like rolesIn post 297, Skybird wrote:I have Pieguyn and Beeboy as strong town.
Not liking Kraska right now. The game is not that long and she's asking about things that should be easy to find out like who else claimed ascetic. Also some AtE in post 290.
Also @AtE
I USE ACRONYMS LIKE ATE.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT LOVED OR HATED MEANS IN TERMS OF VOTE COUNTS.
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This is just a pile of NAI stuff and Skybird should get more votes pls.In post 297, Skybird wrote:Not liking Kraska right now. The game is not that long and she's asking about things that should be easy to find out like who else claimed ascetic. Also some AtE in post 290.ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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Eh you are misinterpreting the confidence level in my reads so far. Although I think what TTH is doing right now is clearly town motivated.In post 333, kraska77 wrote:Here he reevaluated a townread on me after reading pies post, which is fine. But then quickly declares ari who should be null at best and tth who's posting so far has been null as solid townreads when there's no reason to think them soah yes, beegirl style reads;
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I can second that I have seen scum fake this before and it was a lot more convincing...In post 343, pieguyn wrote:
being genuine about town reads is a really, really, *really* easy thing to do as scum, and you should really know this. and it isn't like she went out of her way to meta you or anything like that, she just made one observation based off of a game where she had seen you before.In post 342, Luna Fox wrote:She did get an accurate description of my playstyle out of it tho. Doesn't look faked tbh.
so how is it difficult to fake?
do I really have to go and link games where I've seen people take this approach before?ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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I haven't decided whether or not I plan on doing it later.In post 341, pieguyn wrote:
why don't you want to vote kraska?In post 338, beegirl wrote:This is just a pile of NAI stuff and Skybird should get more votes pls.
she's being blatantly disingenuous towards me and it's not even difficult to see this is what she's doing. have you read my recent posts about her?
I feel like double voting here would rush things I'd rather not see rushed.ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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It's NAI tho.In post 353, pieguyn wrote:
what are you trying to say here?In post 346, beegirl wrote:I can second that I have seen scum fake this before and it was a lot more convincing...that you've seen scum fake it in a more convincing way than kraska,or that the way kraska did it looked more convincing?ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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In post 362, pieguyn wrote:
kraska is more likely to flip scum and her push on Skybird was really bad (independently of that, Skybird is null).In post 359, beegirl wrote:Pie do you have a compelling reason to make me not vote Skybird?
Replace Kraska with Skybird and Skybird with Kraska and that is where I am at right now.ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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It was really just her horrible reason for scum reading her counter wagon and not actually voting it that makes me think she is scum. Like Kraska has plenty of content to create a non terrible read.In post 366, pieguyn wrote:
can you walk me through your scum read on Skybird again?In post 364, beegirl wrote:Replace Kraska with Skybird and Skybird with Kraska and that is where I am at right now.
I've seen your posts etc., I just want to make sure I'm not missing any of it for completeness's sake.ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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Not for 2 pages.In post 376, pirate mollie wrote:she did vote it?ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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^__^ I look forward to this.In post 381, pieguyn wrote:I'm responding to beegirlah yes, beegirl style reads;
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I think I should be obvious town right now and I feel as though your read on Luna is in more of a grey zone which is why I am surprised you are engaging me and not her. I will respond to you in a bit.In post 389, pieguyn wrote:
you and Luna are the people I imagined I'd be able to work with the easiest.In post 388, beegirl wrote:Pie why reach out to me in particular out of the people voting Skybird here?ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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When is this going to develop o3oIn post 399, Luna Fox wrote:
Hmm, actually i hadn't thought of that ^_^;;In post 398, beegirl wrote:So you have reason to believe Mollie is scum?
You are town reading the rest of the wagon outside LLD who didn't really do much countering.ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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Oh I have o3oIn post 414, Nahdia wrote:
good. let me know when you come to the painfully obvious conclusion that mollie and skybird are partners.In post 413, beegirl wrote:Mollie is starting to give me bad vibes :cah yes, beegirl style reads;
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Do it!In post 439, Nahdia wrote:I'm this fucking close to quoting my role PM all over you and just taking the modkill and ban because fuck you people.ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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I had a response typed out by I lost it since the site went down.
My motivation to play this game is kind of low and I will get back to you when I am in a better mood.
I don't really have a problem leaving her at L-1 in this playerlist since I don't see anyone derp hammering.ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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<3In post 467, Nahdia wrote:it would be pretty terrible of me to come back into the game like nothing happened after exploding like that. i'm really sorry. my life has taken a turn for the stressful lately and clearly i can't handle mafia right now. good luck guys.ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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No matter what you tell me I won't be able to get over how terrible 297 was.In post 385, pieguyn wrote: my major issue is, I *really* don't think Skybird's read is as horrible as a lot of people are claiming it is.the major point she was making was that kraska's posts along the lines of e.g. 149 read like she was trying to use her posting a lot as a reason to throw doubt on mollie's read on her.I think it's not a compelling point, yes, but it isn't "horrible" in terms of her thought process. I can easily read this post and see someone thinking that the mention of her activity was off and out of nowhere and hoping to attribute a reason to it, since it kind of is, and "I've posted a lot" is, in fact, an excuse scum like to pull up in order to cast doubt on reads on them.
do I think it's what kraska was doing in that post? not really. but I don't think it's unreasonable at all for someone to interpret it that way and I don't know why so many people think it's so horrible.
Nothing Skybird has posted so far would suggest she thinks the bolded part of your post.
Well I do take issue with her building up the way she did so I guess we just disagree on this one. Town doesn't need to build up a read in order to vote someone. That's how newer scum play because they are worried they won't have natural read progression. Being afraid of making a bad vote isn't really a town thought process for the most part. Yes it could be a play style thing but I have no reason to believe that right now. It's not like post 297 was the first time she declared she was suspecting Kraska she started posturing to vote her way back at post 150 and waited until post 348 until after a wagon built up on Kraska to actually do anything.I don't take issue with her building up to it with the way that she did, and I don't really take issue with the fact that she didn't vote it immediately, either. I could just as easily see it coming from town who has trouble getting up to speed in games early, or town who is just strict with their votes/wants to probe around a bit first before making an explicit vote.
Ok so I don't know when self meta has ever been reliable but let's say for a minute it is. I went to check Skybirds games and the last time she rolled town in a game that wasn't a large theme was approximately 9 months ago. She could effectively just say whatever she wants as scum right now about how she would plan on playing as town.In post 386, pieguyn wrote:also, re: the last paragraph, Skybird's recent posts seem to confirm that at the least she is that kind of player.ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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She can argue literally anything is a playstyle thing because there is no evidence to back up how she plays in smaller games because she has not played in a smaller game in 9 months.In post 473, pieguyn wrote:I think you're on the wrong track with this, too. scum usually will not lie about things that are easily fact-checkable like how they play from game to game, since it's a really stupid thing to lie about; all someone has to do is point out that this isn't how they play or meta them and find a game where they played differently and it's obvious they're full of shit. I'm pretty sure I have never seen scum take the approach of "make up facts about my play and rely on the fact that no one can tell whether I'd play like this as town or not", since not only is it a really unorthodox approach, it isn't one that is likely to work at all, precisely *because* no one will have any faith whatsoever in cold meta from that long ago.
Although I will /concede for now.
UNVOTE:
I am undecided on what I will do with my vote moving forward tho.ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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played in a smaller game as town*In post 474, beegirl wrote:She can argue literally anything is a playstyle thing because there is no evidence to back up how she plays in smaller games because she has not played in a smaller game in 9 months.
She has scum games I didn't feel like reading because I was only attempting to fact check I didn't actually feel like doing a meta dive.ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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Mollie wouldn't be a horrible wagon.`In post 507, pieguyn wrote:
that's a part of it, but really, the more I hear people explain their scum reads on Skybird, the more thoroughly unconvinced I am by any of it.In post 476, beegirl wrote:Although I guess we still have 0 progression because the idea was you wanted me to vote Kraska lol.
*if* we were to pick someone outside of {kraska, Skybird}, who would you want to vote? do you have a read on Aris?
I would probably vote Aris, I was leaning town on him but then he decided that falling of the grid while posting elsewhere onsite was a good idea. It isn't even like this game is dead either.
Although I am waiting on the Kraska replacement now before I decide who I want to vote :/ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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UTL? ahem.In post 506, beegirl wrote:UTL! o/ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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Uptoolate: I was leaning town on her from her skybird push and her replace out was town af.
pirate mollie: This isn't how Mollie plays as town from what I have seen but I feel like giving her space.
TellTaleHeart: unsure :/
Malakittens: Lurk lurk lurk
Skybird: uh I didn't like her reasoning for pushing Kraska but I am giving her space
Lady Lambdadelta: Lurk lurk lurk
Yume: Town for ascetic claim and the way she appraoched it.
Foxbird: Null cause she hasn't done anything
pieguyn: Town for the Kraska push
BeeGirl: Gut scum read.
Luna Fox: Lean town, we agree on a lot of things but I don't really follow a lot of her reasoning.
kraska: felt pretty genuine about everything.
Aristophanes: scum lurking
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Lurking is null from Mala if I remember correctly I am not sure what that means for LLD.In post 545, UpTooLate wrote:Has anybody ISOd LLD or Mala? I don't like either of those slots right now.ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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I think I liked his tone >_>_>_>In post 550, Luna Fox wrote:yeah why were you even townreading Art before bee?ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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reread the situation and tell me if you are still taking note of that.In post 666, Luna Fox wrote:But beegirl wanted me to press Art and decided to jump ship when it got hot, ill take note of that.ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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Given the tension of the situation she really could have easily done that.In post 670, Luna Fox wrote:If Yume wanted to cut the day short she wouldn't have declared intent, she would've just flat out hammered.
I still dont understand.ah yes, beegirl style reads;
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