Mini 1816: Magical Girls Mafia (Game Over)

[Cephrir]

Hi

I'm feeling under the weather so I'm probably not going to read this today but you never know

[Cephrir]

and this is why you should always look before you leap, friends

[Cephrir]

it's upsetting that this turned into a shitshow because as of page 5 it seems pretty fun

[Cephrir]

the view from page 10:
town: HM, Heat, Varsoon? pie??
scum: honestly, my slot

[Cephrir]

ok it is hard to read varsoon when i disagree with every word he says.

[Cephrir]

To me, the line
"I will explain what I'm doing with these two reads exactly when I'm ready to."
reads as
"I will wait until I have thought of a really great reason why people should lynch one of these slots, but if I don't, I'm not committed to it because I've intentionally kept my reasoning nebulous and played my cards close to my chest."

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also i know reading tone is hard but it's been quite a few pages here since muffin made a serious post

[Cephrir]

the view from page 21:
VOTE: Akame

[Cephrir]

>.>

i think this is the 5th time i've seen you write this in as many posts and i can't help but think it's because you're putting your honest feelings about the game onto the page

none of the things you've posted this next to seem particularly shameful

[Cephrir]

random and nati are absoloute lurking and I want something AI from them or I'm going to campaign for pushing them

also before someone yells at me for basing a read on emoticons that isn't why i voted them to begin with, i noticed it afterwards

[Cephrir]

oh that's how the game gets toxic i probably could have guessed that

also i'm collecting these

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[Cephrir]

tone shift in 626 is just hilarious tbh

[Cephrir]

if we start singing our posts.

i would pay to see this

yes, this post is 100% spam and i'm spamming the thread right now

i don't care

[Cephrir]

now don't ever again shrug me of you have no right to that. I'm a ahuman being and this shit is just a fucking game and it suspposed to be fun.

i just...



this game could've been enjoyable

[Cephrir]

if we start singing our posts.

i would pay to see this

Where's my money

-Luna

where's my performance?

[Cephrir]

if there was more to that and there was a specific reason it looked like town frustration instead of frustration in general, I wish you would have pointed it out.

You overestimate how much frustration (and emotion in general) scum can fake without breaking their mask.

[Cephrir]

and i have difficulty parsing whether you think you are or whether you're pretending you are

she thinks she's answering but that doesn't make her town

@wisdom in the post below this: scum have genuine emotions sometimes

[Cephrir]

wisdom might be scum

still kind of hoping for a clear reason re: kuroi, i don't love his posts but i don't quite get why he's such a top tier scumread

[Cephrir]

zMuffin, those aren't really great defenses, but I guess I gotta accept them. :/

...at least your avatar doesn't scare me anymore, so I can actually engage you.

i don't get you.

[Cephrir]

long island medium... what kinda name is that. Ceph what do you think of random

-Luna

ive read like 3 posts by him? i have no opinion thus far

[Cephrir]

i don't know if i believe wisdom would be on a scumteam with any of the other people being generally scumread

eh

[Cephrir]

nene might be town because of reasons

i might be off base on that one

[Cephrir]

i don't believe anyone is dense enough to think that because someone sees connections between people they think are scum they should also be required to give an entirely different perspective on the game if they're wrong

you've also made connections between your scum read (zakk) and someone else (wisdom for "coaching"), but i don't see you going "well, if i'm wrong about zakk, here's who's scum"

i think if kuroi is scum he probably believes someone will buy what he's selling

[Cephrir]

I might be okay with lynching kuroi after all

Stop defending me. Please.

when I saw this post, the first thing that popped into my head was "it would be hilarious if scum didn't have daytalk and he openly told Wisdom to stop defending him in the game thread". there must be something wrong with me. <_>

I'll be back tomorrow.

you know, this post being intended for a scum pt wouldn't require wisdom to be scum...

[Cephrir]

snip

oh

yeah ok i gotchu

[Cephrir]

And this also makes little sense. Not sure how you got Wis/pieguy.

Thats not what I was saying. I was saying I thought a team of Wis/Pie was more likely than Wis/Kur.
I can kind of see that as misreading the situation, but I was not saying Pie was scum with Wis.

Hate my life.

omg i was going to guess that

[Cephrir]

BTW, don't you feel silly when you said I don't care about my appearance but then you saw me in a suit? I didn't mean to be so savage, but you called out the bull, so you got the horns.

oh yeah you really slaughtered him with that point

wait what????

[Cephrir]

And throwing a bluff by playing into his criticisms.

I'm calling it out.

Let me guess - you think I'm scum.

Either way, ON TOP of thinking Wisdom is scum, I feel it would 95% tell me Zakk's alignment if Wisdom IS scum.

are you usually, like,,, correct? these are the words of someone who is usually correct but i would be surprised if that phrase described you

[Cephrir]

caught up

rando lynch is fine but i'm more confident about akame

also i dont really want them in the game anyways and a lynch would solve that

also i want wisdom back

[Cephrir]

oh hes already been replaced sorry that wasn't a dig at you

[Cephrir]

sure

Honey Moon (Luna Fox + beeboy) townish
Genji Heat town
Wisdom not sure
Cephrir zakk pumbaa
Varsoon townish
zMuffinMan townish
SirCakez not sure
Natirasha town pending an assumption
thenewearth not sure
pieguyn townish
Akame and Kurome (Frozen Angel + Kurome) scum
randomidget scummish
KuroiXHF scummish

[Cephrir]

Not when a rando wagon is more likely to go through

i'm not talking about that right now

heat

[Cephrir]

actually yeah

i kinda have a vested interest in not having the pf gauge overheat n1

this was a big part

also heat lurks harder as scum

i'm not married to this i guess

[Cephrir]

that vc has me voting tne

i am no longer voting tne

so yes

[Cephrir]

you could always vote akame

[Cephrir]

iso akame and tell me with a straight face you don't have a desire on at least some level to burn it at the stake

[Cephrir]

though I'm interested in where Ceph is getting his Akame scum read from.

their play makes literally no sense, but I severely doubt this is a scum trait.

I think you're townreading fa for genuine emotion when genuine emotion is to the best of my knowledge exactly the thing she always does

Their content is shallow and they would rather throw hiss fits than have real interactions

Probably some other reason that I don't remember

[Cephrir]

Yeah you call that whole team like you mean it great work

[Cephrir]

mathblade does have a reasonable chance of being scum

i kind of want to give her a little more time to turn the slot around but it is currently still pointed towards hell

[Cephrir]

that mathblade vote put random at l-1
wow
didn't even notice it
i'm not even being facetious

I did. I just didn't go "claim" because Random has fucking played before. I wanted to see who of my scum reads would be the first chicken to back off.

I am just surprised a town read did. That kinda throws a loop in my random/Varsoon/Cephrir theory. Might be possible Varsoon is swapped with long medium and you were intentionally trying to piss me off earlier. Regardless random is the lynch today and the fact you just "hop off" is hella suspicious.

I hate this post a lot.

I have trouble believing you are this locked into a whole team and yet one person unvoting is sufficient for you to question it.

That just doesn't make sense to me.

The wagon falling off is very fishy or rather would be if it wasnt going over another scumread, im probably doing something wrong, and i still dont know what that something is.

-Luna

mathblade does have a reasonable chance of being scum

i kind of want to give her a little more time to turn the slot around but it is currently still pointed towards hell

Then your GPS is busted but then again calling you out as scum so you kinda have to say I am scum.

Gee what a shock. After I suggest random/Varsoon/Cephrir they come guns blazing. The only thing that doesn't make sense is the Long Medium Unvote and how that fits in.

No I don't. I can townread people who aren't townreading me. They just have to do anything town.

I thought it was obvious from the post you quoted here but I was scumreading your predecessor.

[Cephrir]

Also, you're the one who "came in guns blazing" with your mind already made up.

I'm just a dude reading a thread.

[Cephrir]

anyone at all ready to lynch akame yet

aaaanyone?

[Cephrir]

Yeah you're right

How many votes is rando at

[Cephrir]

Oh its like 4

VOTE: rando

[Cephrir]

He's not claiming anything in the thread, though I wish he would hurry up and do so

It doesn't particularly look as though he's getting away with anything though

You had better hope this is a scumlynch

[Cephrir]

VC 1.15

thenewearth (1):

randomidget

Cephrir (1):

Akame and Kurome

Mathblade (4):

Natirasha, zMuffinMan, thenewearth, Genji

randomidget (6):

Honey Moon, pieguyn, Varsoon, SirCakez, long_island_medium, Mathblade

Akame and Kurome (1):

Cephrir

Not Voting:

None

With

13

votes,

7

to lynch.

The deadline is in (expired on 2016-08-10 19:19:51).

long_island_medium replaces Wisdom.
Mathblade replaces KuroiXHF.

And what do you know...Cephrir fucking hammers.

Called it. Varsoon and Cephrir fucking called it people.

If I die tonight pressure the hell out of these two.

What the fuck you were just saying random was scum too why would you be mad about this

And vars on got off as well pay attention scum

[Cephrir]

Far as I am concerned I know I am town and random saying it is half right is a scum claim.

1) Half right comes from a place of knowledge.
2) it looks as if he is trying to call me scum but never actually votes me instead he keeps his vote on TNE. Because he probably knows if I die the rest of the team is going down.
3) Random is clearly trying to get a lynch on anyone but himself while trying to doubtcast my theory.

Random needs rope.

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[Cephrir]

I officially don't care which of these flaming scumbos we lynch today

[Cephrir]

You cannot actually be telling me you believe that half right post was intended to say "math is town and I am scum". Surely there is no way anyone could think that.

[Cephrir]

You're scummer than Kuroi ever was

[Cephrir]

You must expect me to either believe that or believe that you have never seen anyone confidently state "x is scum" ever

I'm not sure which of those stories is dumber

[Cephrir]

^

[Cephrir]

That's only evcen true because of all the replacements

[Cephrir]

You cannot actually be telling me you believe that half right post was intended to say "math is town and I am scum". Surely there is no way anyone could think that.

Yes I believe he is and when random flips people will see why you are Varsoon switched to tunneling me and avoiding random.

Okay there's nothing correct in this post

[Cephrir]

You don't have reads if you are scum Varsoon. The only thing that changed is wanting to save your butt.

because widely townread varsoon was under so much pressure

[Cephrir]

mathblade is a they

[Cephrir]

UNVOTE:

I live to serve

[Cephrir]

I want to say something about whether or not I want to act tonight but I'm not really sure how good an idea that is to do

[Cephrir]

You don't have reads if you are scum Varsoon. The only thing that changed is wanting to save your butt.

because widely townread varsoon was under so much pressure

Yes. Because if I am right Cephrir knows I pressure hard. If I see scum I poke it I prod it. I am loud. I bring all of the cards to the table and I have no regrets. If I can open up people's eyes to read my slot rather than sheep we might just have a chance at this. But right now people are chaining up mislynches and it is terribad.

i like how you quoted me and then talked at everyone else

[Cephrir]

and yes, i am aware that dictating a pool of 5 players pretty much tells scum where to shoot, that is also part of why it's not so bad an idea if the right group of players is actioning (e.g. i'd probably choose pumbaa, genji, nene, tne, varsoon or something like that, dunno, maybe swap one for honey moon - i don't know how likely it is that all those names are town but that doesn't really matter)

This is a dumb list and has multiple scum on it. I agree in discussing who should action but it should be a town consensus. I town read you but this is full of derp.

IMHO the list should be Muffin, Genji, Honey Moon, Pieguyn, and tne. Cephrir and Varsoon should not be in that list else you give scum the ability to wreck us.

it's that time again -- let's play: your daily snarkoscope!

Spoiler: Leo, Libra, Cancer, Scorpio, Capricorn and Aries -- this snark is for you!

well, he made those selections specifically because he was picking two scum on purpose, since everyone must share the same reads as you

Spoiler: Aquarius, Pisces, Sagittarius, Virgo, Taurus, Gemini -- here's your personalized snarkoscope!

wow this game must be so easy when your role PM tell you who is scum, since that's the only way you could be so certain who is scum! oh wait, your role PM did tell you that

[Cephrir]

I'll wait on acting

[Cephrir]

im willing if mathblade agrees to this but i dont think she will

[Cephrir]

nice claim!

can i lynch it yet

[Cephrir]

I can't think of a good reason you would withhold information about your role while getting lynched, but I guess you can take them to the grave

VOTE: rando

[Cephrir]

VOTE: MathBlade

[Cephrir]

who's acting tonight

also 6 isn't the right number is it?

[Cephrir]

VOTE: sircakez

[Cephrir]

i think it's kind of funny that cakez being scum hasn't even caused you to miss a beat on this stupid theory

[Cephrir]

...

[Cephrir]

i think it's kind of funny that cakez being scum hasn't even caused you to miss a beat on this stupid theory

Why is it stupid?

Well I don't think Varsoon is scum and I don't think I'm scum and you've been tunnelling on both of us since practically your first post and hey look you were wrong surprise!!!! i find it irritating that you can't reassess

I know I am town.
I have to figure out who the last scum is and no one is talking.

OK great we have a flipped scum you have plenty of new information

Varsoon put SirCakez at L-1 so fast I got whiplash.

So?

And you only call my attempts to find scum stupid.

I don't know if I'd call declaring people to be scum and shouting that we're scum over and over "attempts to find scum." I would call it "attempts to convince others of something you've already decided."

And you don't answer the question asked: Assume I am town. Who is scum?

When did you ask me this before right now? If you've read enough of my posts to be soooo sure I'm scum then you really should know my answer is Akame.

[Cephrir]

snip

[Cephrir]

Here is the jist Cephrir. I am the fucking town vig. I tried to shoot Varsoon last night and somehow New Earth died. There is nothing in there that suggests redirection. I am trying to get people to talk dammit. But no one fucking is. So I am stuck trying to figure out this game on my own because no one is talking.

I agreed when I said shooting new earth was stupid because he wasn't supposed to die. I asked specifically about the kills and said new earth was stupid to try to get discussions going. I can tell you though if SirCakez is scum it is safe to act and I will keep doing so barring any hiccups.

The wondering how I am alive was trying to get some discussion towards two kills.

Now I am stuck desperately alone. With me being the vig we in essence have two lynches. So yeah you may think I am being ridiculous for wanting a goddamn conversation but I just want to fucking play.

That's not why I said you were being ridiculous

You probably should have waited until tomorrow to claim this

[Cephrir]

i believe nene is asking for the rest of your role

[Cephrir]

i want to offer target suggestions but it's a little difficult when the first post isn't updated with replacements.

i wouldn't mind losing akame or long island

[Cephrir]

also, i'd like to suggest that you only kill once more (to ensure we stay on odds)

varsoon, you don't happen to know why you're not dead, do you?

[Cephrir]

yeah i dunno what to do about what seems to be a scum redirector on you that's weird

but why would they redirect you to tne, that doesn't make sense

[Cephrir]

unless it's cakez

[Cephrir]

you knew she had a kill and wasn't scum?

[Cephrir]

still not a he

also not sure how great an idea that is if they're willing to be leashed

[Cephrir]

Okay yeah we better lynch all vigs who ever miss then

Don't be dumb

[Cephrir]

The leash includes telling you not to kill anyone if we so decide

[Cephrir]

Varsoon oh my god.

[Cephrir]

We are lynching the confirmed scum

[Cephrir]

I mean he posted and it was a scum claim so I'm ready for day to end once we agree on what mathblade should do tonight and who should act

[Cephrir]

obviously, nene is acting every night until it stops being alive

and if someone claims a protective role ever and she dies tonight you are getting lynched immediately

[Cephrir]

who else wants to act? i'll fill in if not a lot of people want to but otherwise i will not

[Cephrir]

I would like to, but my shutter-upper device is broken.

[Cephrir]

I have to admit Varsoon has some pretty good points here

[Cephrir]

Unthread: SirCakez, MathBlade

[Cephrir]

you know, scum vigs do exist

[Cephrir]

We also have a flipped vig.

~Bee

@bee they said no.

Yes we do. That is why I find it utterly ludicrous there would be a third. SirCakez caught scum CC'd me *sigh*

Yes that was intended as a real counterclaim. For sure.

[Cephrir]

i don't think GIF does "one-shot vig, penalty is death" and then "two-shot vig, penalty is death" in this setup - i would expect he would make all vigs one-shot. i dont think GIF does one random role with two penalties attached to it, either and even that is ignoring that it also makes no sense to have "you become hated" and "you die" as concurrent penalties

@all of this: why; also who's to say it's not a given fakeclaim

[Cephrir]

i don't think GIF does "one-shot vig, penalty is death" and then "two-shot vig, penalty is death" in this setup - i would expect he would make all vigs one-shot. i dont think GIF does one random role with two penalties attached to it, either and even that is ignoring that it also makes no sense to have "you become hated" and "you die" as concurrent penalties

@all of this: why; also who's to say it's not a given fakeclaim

you do realize all of that is me saying math's claim is fake?

to explain one thing (on mobile so a bit more concise than usual), math is literally claiming that if they use the vig 3 times, they become hated, *and* they die. it should be obvious this is redundant and not something GIF would bother to put in the setup.

yes, i do, and my question stands -- i guess what i mean is why is that a reason it's fake when fakeclaims probably exist

i don't get your second point

[Cephrir]

I end up being hated if I use it more than twice. Using it a third time causes me to die.

ah.

explain pls, math

[Cephrir]

we aren't

[Cephrir]

everyone fill this out so we can end the day plz

Acting tonight:
Not acting tonight:
Whatever: Cephrir

[Cephrir]

i don't but my ability is, to be fair, structured in a way that i'm starting to suspect is unique

[Cephrir]

correct

[Cephrir]

maybe in a more expected way, but, it's a thing

[Cephrir]

well okay it's *formatted* that way but doesn't *actually follow those rules*

i am probably just being confusing

[Cephrir]

my number of shots is infinity and my penalty for overuse is nothing.

[Cephrir]

but it does spell out both of those things

[Cephrir]

what if i told you

everyone is scumreading you because of how scummy you are

[Cephrir]

it looks like no one cares about filling out my thing so we might as well just get a hammer

[Cephrir]

okay yep we're all just stupid and scumreading you because it's fun you are perfect in every way

[Cephrir]

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

[Cephrir]

oh so half of varsoon's iso doesn't exist ok i forgot

[Cephrir]

VOTE: MathBlade

[Cephrir]

no one can prove they didn't act

probably

[Cephrir]

Is there something that really incriminates math ? (Hasn't really read the game hehe ^_^;)

literally everything.

Only if everyone has a pole up their butt about Kuroi being scum and refusing to rea analyze.

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[Cephrir]

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

when multiple players, myself included, express that they are scumreading you because of YOUR play you don't get to plug your ears and point at your predecessor and pretend to have done nothing wrong

[Cephrir]

My desire to kill this is about 30 percent due to being annoyed

[Cephrir]

yeah i have never heard of a bulletproof townie either

[Cephrir]

_WHY_ DIDN'T AK PROTECT NENE N2???

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT AND FUCK THE KUROME HEAD FOR THINKING SHE HAD THE RIGHT TO SAY OTHER PEOPLE WERE SHIT AT THE GAME AND THE NGOING AND DOING THIS.

oh yeah they suck donkey balls

though i feel like there might be a strongman involved here?? why else would they even try

[Cephrir]

oh the strongman is dead

but isnt that only a 1-shot strongman

also it wasn't akame, shiro was already in the game -- right?

[Cephrir]

obviously, nene is acting every night until it stops being alive

and if someone claims a protective role ever and she dies tonight you are getting lynched immediately

did you not read this shiro orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Cephrir]

i was under the impression that usage = 1 meant usage = 1 period and the penalties happened if the gauge overflows

is that not true? hum

[Cephrir]

mmmkkkkkk i'm slow

[Cephrir]

i guess that thematically makes sense

[Cephrir]

it sure looks that way

[Cephrir]

perhaps

[Cephrir]

is math dead yet

1 - 1 = 0

there we go no more math

[Cephrir]

somewhere in my addled mind yes i did somehow think that both made sense and was funny

i probably should not post while having difficulty staying awake

[Cephrir]

im not sure if that was what i would call fun

mostly i am relieved it's over