Mini 1821 Badass Women U-Pick Mafia - game over

[beegirl]

VOTE: Luna


I want Aris, Mala and Mollie dead.

[beegirl]

Welp I am hated right now

[beegirl]

Why can't we lynch Ari out of curiosity?

[beegirl]

Bee, did you get your neighborhood last night and what did we find out from it?

Nope I think Yume listened to me and neighborized Pie.

[beegirl]

Ah that makes sense considering the day started early you may not have been roleblocked.

[beegirl]

I just did right now because neighborizers are supposed to resolve by now.

[beegirl]

UTL I literally just got a pm saying I was in a hood with Yume.

[beegirl]

like within the past minute of something.

[beegirl]

I am curious who Mala redirected.

[beegirl]

That TTH kill was pretty neat.
I expected you to go tonight UTL.

[beegirl]

That TTH kill was pretty neat.
I expected you to go tonight UTL.

Why? Tbh, I expected pie after her catching the SK, and correctly deducing she was SK.

You are the hardest lynch in this game and Pie was the obv doc target.

[beegirl]

Ah that makes sense considering the day started early you may not have been roleblocked.

I don't believe Ascetic roles can be role-blocked...

I forgot that detail lol

[beegirl]

VOTE: Ari

[beegirl]

wow e\/eryone has such cool sounding roles and I am hated wtf.

[beegirl]

UNVOTE:

sigh...

[beegirl]

Mollie softed before Ari claimed tho.

[beegirl]

I think.

[beegirl]

The order doesn't really matter even though claiming after a vig claim makes it even more trusting.
Like, what kind of scum fakeclaims a flapping treestump?

I am fake claiming RNG Jack of all traits.

[beegirl]

And don't even think about mafia treestump because there is literally no point in making a mafia treestump because a treestumped mafia will be just forced to troll or prod dodge.

I saw a mafia treestump before ._.

[beegirl]

VOTE: Mollie

[beegirl]

You are a strong willed visitor LOL

[beegirl]

if we're making Yume dead, I would much prefer her being vig'd over her being lynched.

why

there was an attempt to vig her last night and it failed. so do you want the vig to waste another shot? and it is textbook optimal town play to vig a treestump if there is a question about their alignment so I am wondering why the fuck you are pushing a suboptimal town strategy?

I mean I can't believe that there are pple who actually think that I wld nk tth. I WAS HER FUCKING STRONGEST TOWNREAD AND WE WERE WORKING TOGETHER. like this line of thought is so fucking stupid that I don't even have words for it.

What

[beegirl]

UTL where does your Mollie town read stem from?

[beegirl]

(Also, I would totally vig a claimed treestump in a situation like this.)

(I wld support this)

Pie, if she's so worried about death, why would she post this?

Are you actually going to \/ig her?

[beegirl]

Pie is pretty clearly town.

[beegirl]

if you are town and we if are looking at the game quite differently then we shld absolutely talk, cos I don't think we have ever actually won a town game together. I think it is cos we approach the game quite differently, as far as how we sort it.

We ha\/e actually only won town games together lol. (to be fair it is a sample of 2)
I will respond to this reach out tomorrow I promise

[beegirl]

next beeboy. I want you to look at any1 who wants to take away my vote.

kek I got confused cause of this part.

[beegirl]

idfk I saw my name.

[beegirl]

Does it matter?

[beegirl]

idfk I saw my name.

and didn't read the post?

yes... that is what the respond to later part was for.
I totally would ha\/e sa\/ed time by reading the post tho apparently.

[beegirl]

Your \/ote on me is top tier btw.

[beegirl]

beegirl - posting from both accounts with impunity with the same avvie and sig and hair triggering on when his name is mentioned.

I might as well just ha\/e claimed scum.

[beegirl]

Put Mollie as likely scum and put your name where mine is and we ha\/e the same reads :')

[beegirl]

w8 Yume is null for me.

[beegirl]

Beeboy:

If you think I'm likely town, put ari right next to me.

Sure.

[beegirl]

Someone with a targeting action better ensure Mollie flips scum / gets stumped tonight.

[beegirl]

Can we mass claim?

[beegirl]

We are in Mylo if it wasn't incredibly obvious.

[beegirl]

I have mod given information that we are in mylo.

[beegirl]

You know my voting based role kind of doesn't work in mylo lol

[beegirl]

Well I am pretty much conf town via role.

[beegirl]

Ari is vigging someone tonight so your statement is meh

[beegirl]

If a doctor didn't target UTL I have 0 faith in them.
We have me and Aris who are near conf town as well right now.

[beegirl]

So a bulletproof is equally meh

[beegirl]

Apparently Fox is confirmed town too.

EZ GAME

I could fuck this game up you too much faith

[beegirl]

You have*

[beegirl]

Yes

[beegirl]

I am actually incredibly upset you guys can read my rng jack of all trades role and come to the conclusion I could be scum.

[beegirl]

Like on what world is my role possibly a scum role?

[beegirl]

Skybird, Mala and maybe LLD but I am iffy on this 3rd scum slot.
I don't see LLD not role coping me or Ari night 1 tbh

[beegirl]

Tell me why my role is possibly a scum role?

[beegirl]

Unless you think I am a scum day 1 double voter that fake claimed a bunch of provable modifiers

[beegirl]

that's exactly the issue: I don't agree that it would be horrid design and I don't understand why you (and people like GIF) are saying it is.

Because randomly being hated, loved, double voter or an actor is horrid design for a scum role.

Like if I am scum I randomly do one of the following
Hated: pretty bad
Actor: worthless
Double voter: really strong
Loved: alright I guess?

That is not good design for a scum role

that's exactly the issue: I don't agree that it would be horrid design and I don't understand why you (and people like GIF) are saying it is.

Die rolls that can either give scum negative utility or incredibly positive utility are bad design.

[beegirl]

Fuck posting on my main ever in this game

[beegirl]

Pie tell me what you see in the design of a role like that for scum that I am apparently missing.

[beegirl]

Skybird, Mala and maybe LLD but I am iffy on this 3rd scum slot.
I don't see LLD not role coping me or Ari night 1 tbh

Layla is null
I am having second thoughts on Pie

[beegirl]

Ari is town cause his role isn't a scum role.
Foxbird is town cause friendly neighbor stuff

[beegirl]

Pie tell me what you see in the design of a role like that for scum that I am apparently missing.

I still don't even understand why you're claiming that the role would be that atrocious for scum in the first place. DV and loved aren't "incredibly positive utility" for scum outside of XYLO. a role that randomly picks between three minor benefits and one minor loss (or even if we don't count the ascetic, two minor benefits, one netural, and one minor loss) isn't outrageous as a scum role, especially when there's also the "scum would never have a role like this" argument.

if I was to town read you, I wouldn't do it based on your role.

p-edit: responding in a separate post!

I would argue double voter is incredibly useful and hated is really bad still but I am not going to go in circles with you.
Also ascetic was never a part of my role I just wanted to gambit with the actor section of my role.

[beegirl]

Ari is town cause his role isn't a scum role.
Foxbird is town cause friendly neighbor stuff

pie clarified that it is not friendly neighbor stuff

I still want a mass claim which should clarify what is going on.

[beegirl]

At the start of each non xylo day phase the mod rolls a die. Based on the result I get one of the following modifiers
Loved, Hated, Actor, double voter

[beegirl]

Pie why am I scum?

[beegirl]

Mollie and Ari just want me lynched because I thought they where scum which is stupid but at least it is some kind of reason.

[beegirl]

VOTE: piegirl

What I don't get is why Pie went from having 0 issues with my slot when we where working together to having wanting to lynch me (she hasn't explained her read on me all game) as soon she starts to work with Mollie.

[beegirl]

GIF do what you know is right

[beegirl]

The scum team has 3 peeps on it LLD

[beegirl]

Oh I thought you where saying Mala, Pie was the entire scum team by b.

[beegirl]

to voting me, within the span of the posts after 2368 (when the only thing that really changed is that I continued to push you as scum via POE and we had that exchange about how I don't think your role is town), when a Mala lynch is significantly more viable.

am I missing something?

I felt like your Skybird and LLD reads where the worst things I have ever seen. Especially your Skybird read which has felt kind of forced all game.

[beegirl]

VOTE: Mala

I just want to do this and hope she flips scum so Ari can vig me without me worrying about losing and I can stop worrying about this game.

[beegirl]

@Ari @Mollie can you accept me and Layla as town and can we just win the game?

[beegirl]

before we speedlynch mala can we talk about whom ari shld target plz?

Skybird

[beegirl]

Actually anyone that isn't {Himself, Foxbird, Me, Layla} I am really ok with.

[beegirl]

UNVOTE:

I need to confirm Ari isn't killing me or Layla.

[beegirl]

That's gr8

[beegirl]

VOTE: Mala

[beegirl]

This is fucking horrible I am starting to think this isn't even worth it anymore because the reasons that apparently make me scum aren't actually alignment indicative and the POE that involves town reading Skybird as town to come to the conclusion I am scum is equally shit.
I feel as though you are all making shit up to come to the conclusion I am scum because I was strong arming a Mollie lynch and guess what as scum I would never strong arm a lynch on a fucking tree stump because that's incredibly stupid.

[beegirl]

with the game on the line, why are you so okay with it? cos you are freaking me out.

I don't really have much of an idea of which of {beegirl, Skybird} is scum at this point, so I don't have a strong preference for which one is vig'd. we have room to make both of them dead after vig'ing one of them anyway.

Haven't you been town reading Skybird for the entire game?

[beegirl]

This is fucking horrible I am starting to think this isn't even worth it anymore because the reasons that apparently make me scum aren't actually alignment indicative and the POE that involves town reading Skybird as town to come to the conclusion I am scum is equally shit.
I feel as though you are all making shit up to come to the conclusion I am scum because I was strong arming a Mollie lynch and guess what as scum I would never strong arm a lynch on a fucking tree stump because that's incredibly stupid.

I mean it was really stupid regardless of alignment. what I think happened is that you did not play the tape all the way through and forgot that you wld be stuck with a mod confirmed me. I think that you are short sighted in your play.

did you apologize yet? what did you learn from that really dumb tunnel that you had? <----- cos I am not seeing anything other than some1 panicking over possibly being vigged.

I really think you underestimate my scum game then if you think I would be aware of the consequences of lynching you as scum especially when there was a variety of different lynch options. (Like I could have hammered Ari on many different occasions day 1 rather then hard push you.)

I guess I have just been kind of upset with how this game has been going so I haven't apologized yet. I am sorry for fucking up my read on you and it was mainly a result of a meta read which I based on one game which is pretty bad looking back.

Yes I am panicking over being vigged right now because I am very hesitant on my pie read and really am only confident in Lalya being town but let's say for a bit Pie actually is town and she is just playing poorly right now there still the chance Ari gets role blocked and we lose since we won't be left with any mislynches so I am incredibly worried about this game especially given I see a winning line of play that involves killing everyone that isn't conf town or Layla and I don't see anyone wanting to cooperate with me on that game plan.

[beegirl]

yeah, but now that I think Layla is town one of {you, her} kinda has to be scum.

we have enough room to kill both of you, so in theory it shouldn't matter too much which of you is vig'd tonight.

You haven't town read me at any point this game and you are town reading Skybird all game.
I fail to see how this is a hard decision unless you think this flailing is outside my capabilities as scum which is odd because I flailed my way through all of borderlands mafia which is the only game you have seen me play in.

[beegirl]

Like I really just don't get any of your reads this game Pie which is why I can't just put this game in yours and Layla's hands despite really wanting to.

[beegirl]

Ari is himself.

{Me, Layla, Foxbird and Ari} are all town.

As long as we vig and kill everyone else and Foxbird isn't scum with Pie with some kind of fake claim or Foxbird is just a scum motivator which is unlikely from my POV we just win by killing everyone else.

[beegirl]

But wait Ari got motivated so we should be fine in regards to this being a crazy fake claim.

[beegirl]

Ari is himself yes.
I shouldn't have mentioned it because I think it is safe to assume Ari wouldn't vig himself.

[beegirl]

You haven't town read me at any point this game and you are town reading Skybird all game.
I fail to see how this is a hard decision unless you think this flailing is outside my capabilities as scum which is odd because I flailed my way through all of borderlands mafia which is the only game you have seen me play in.

I've had a slight town read on you for most of this game, too, if it wasn't obvious by me working with you basically the entire game up until this game day.

Then what changed from the time you had Skybird as town and me as scum in your POE list?

[beegirl]

Then what changed from the time you had Skybird as town and me as scum in your POE list?

I don't really have any explanation for something as specific as that? I never had any strong feeling about it.

You have nothing to explain why you where rooting for my lynch and how you suddenly became hesitant in regards to Skybird being town ._.

[beegirl]

is ari, Who?

no

[beegirl]

Harley Quinn
Mod's play toy
At the start of each day the mod will role a die and I will get one of the following abilities
Loved
Actor
Hated
Double Voter
(does not work in xylo)

[beegirl]

You do realize that if you get killed at night because of your role we instantly win the game because there are too many scums and Laylas to deal with?

[beegirl]

conf tonws*

[beegirl]

You do realize that if you get killed at night because of your role we instantly win the game because there are too many scums and Laylas to deal with?

who are you talking to here?

Piegirl

So if Pie gets killed by scum today we enter tomorrow with

3 conf towns
1 Layla
3 other people

[beegirl]

You do realize that if you get killed at night because of your role we instantly win the game because there are too many scums and Laylas to deal with?

who are you talking to here?

Piegirl

So if Pie gets killed by scum today we enter tomorrow with

3 conf towns
1 Layla
3 other people

[beegirl]

Ari the idea is you target the same person twice.
Don't you dare enable scum to kill me Ari.