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Not completely, but it would be helpful.In post 2051, Thor665 wrote:Like, let's say we could get mod confirmed color results on everyone right this second - would it solve the game?I prefer they, thanks :)-
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Katsuki is confirmed scum
I prefer they, thanks :)-
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I'm not ready for day to end??
And one secI prefer they, thanks :)-
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[quote="In post 1964, Sotty7"]
Katsuki = RED
Dwlee = PURPLE
irainavp = WHITE
wingback =BLACK
Zulfy= RED
Sotty = ???
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Sotty claims to have been colored last night. There can only be 5 color changes in the game. This means out of the people we have colors for one has to be their true color. Zulfy is dead and flipped town, and the other 3 of us are a mix of colors. This means katsuki started the game red.I prefer they, thanks :)-
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Katsuki = RED
Dwlee = PURPLE
irainavp = WHITE
wingback =BLACK
Zulfy= RED
Sotty = ???
No one starts as not blue/red.
So that means that three of the nights scum colored someone are already gone
Katsuki = RED
Zulfy= RED
Sotty = ???
zulfy was town and he flipped red, so he had to have been painted
Katsuki = RED
Sotty = ???
So that is nights one - four that we know one of those four people are colored.
And sotty claims to have been colored last night so that means that katsuki is the one in the list who has NOT been colored, meaning they started out as red, ergo katsuki is scum.I prefer they, thanks :)-
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You're not understandingIn post 2071, Sotty7 wrote:Dwlee, - you don't think scum could have started a different color?
Town would have had to start out as red for katsuki to be town. The other 3 people who have color flips were not blue and not red so they had to have been changed. This mean's katsuki STARTED THE GAME AS RED.
If katsuki was town who started the game as red she'd have claimed it at the start of the game.I prefer they, thanks :)-
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you're scum omgIn post 2072, Thor665 wrote:
Okay, so both of your confirmed reads are based on your personal value call of Pie's read as well as your mod theory.In post 2069, Dwlee99 wrote:I AM TRUSTING PIE'S READ ON SOTTY
Does Pie have a high quality of history in reading Sotty?I prefer they, thanks :)-
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thor is scum holy fuckIn post 2074, Dwlee99 wrote:If katsuki was town who started the game as red she'd have claimed it at the start of the game.I prefer they, thanks :)-
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THIS IS KATSUKI BEING SURPRISED AT FLIPPING RED!!!!In post 1241, Katsuki wrote:Oh hey I flipped red! XD
THIS MEANS SHE IS SCUM BECAUSE WE KNOW SHE STARTED THE GAME AS REDI prefer they, thanks :)-
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I dont do drugsIn post 2084, Thor665 wrote:
What the hell are you even smoking?In post 2080, Dwlee99 wrote:town!thor doesn't come into the game and just ask a bunch of dumb questionsI prefer they, thanks :)-
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In post 2057, Thor665 wrote:
Judging by the setup that is within the realm of possibility, and certainly within Ockham's for any given town/scum.In post 2052, Sotty7 wrote:Do you think all scum started red and all town started blue?
This stood outIn post 2076, Thor665 wrote:That's actually the point of his question - by what evidence do you presume town are auto start blue and scum auto start red?
but think about:
his weird reluctance to claim, insisting he found the massclaim first
his complete lack of anything of content
posting dumb questions
obvscumI prefer they, thanks :)-
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THORIn post 2090, Thor665 wrote:Is there any evidence that scum can't change their color to blue?
And why would scum change any color to anything other than blue or red?
LOOK AT THE COLOR FLIPS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW
NONE OF THEM ARE BLUE
THIS POST IS MEANINGLESS!!!!I prefer they, thanks :)-
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P sure last game scum had a one shot of their colors. So they have to choose different paints for each player. They couldn't go all red or all blue cause of the x-shot on colors.In post 2098, Thor665 wrote:The smart scum play would have been to change as many players to red as possible to make the endgame be all red.
Or all blue, either way - the goal would be to take the most expeidient path to make the color flip info meaningless which would be the red path, but let's presume scum are dumb.
There is zero value in changing a town player to purple, black, white, or fuscia if the only end goal of those colors is to confuse.
Unless scum can't change colors from blue to red and vice versa - which the flip info does not appear to support.
Which is making me wonder if they got caught out with the purple, causing a shift in optimal play choice.
Timing wise that appears to make sense with the single red flip from a town and no blue scum flips.
Insert your next rant below.I prefer they, thanks :)-
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cause u already changed zulfyIn post 2096, Thor665 wrote:Like, say I'm scum and you're town - why would I want to change your color to purple, as opposed to changing it to red?I prefer they, thanks :)-
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In post 2048, Thor665 wrote:Sotty is advancing a concept of wanting to lynch himself to figure out his color to figure out my alignment.
Like...if I was town, and I wanted to figure out Thor - I can't conceive of thinking that a self lynch would be the easiest answer option.
A lynch of who you want to figure is the easiest option.
It makes no sense.In post 2050, Thor665 wrote:If colors can change and have no relevance to alignment - why does any of it matter?In post 2051, Thor665 wrote:Like, let's say we could get mod confirmed color results on everyone right this second - would it solve the game?
If yes, why do you need to be flipped to learn about another color?
If no, why do you care about the other color?
sounds kinda like someone was reading a scum chat and educated themselves on the scum's purpose of painting me purple lolIn post 2102, Thor665 wrote:
You are wrong, scum had infinite red paint and only one shot of blue paint last game.In post 2100, Dwlee99 wrote:P sure last game scum had a one shot of their colors. So they have to choose different paints for each player. They couldn't go all red or all blue cause of the x-shot on colors.
If you think scum only had one shot of blue - who did they use it on?
If you think scum had no blue and only one red shot, wouldn't the optimal strategy be to start immediately painting over red - with, say, purple?I prefer they, thanks :)-
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you came off trying to seem ignorant to the way the paint worked in order to seem town. just a bad vibe i gotIn post 2107, Thor665 wrote:
Nothing suggested that I was trying to town slip - do you see something suggestive of that?In post 2103, Dwlee99 wrote:are you saying that you know how the paint mechanics have worked this whole time and yet you were acting completely oblivious to it earlier to try to do a pseudo town slip?
and the optimal strat would be to paint over everyone as a different color, not just scum
we've been over thisWhy is the optimal strategy to paint over everyone, as opposed to painting all town red or all scum blue?
a limited amount of paint would mean that scum would be unable to just paint everyone red
zzzWhile we're at it, I would still like you to back up your theory that all town started as blue and all scum started as red. That is required for your conf scum claim (now shifted to mostly confirmed, natch) on Kat to make sense, yeah?
NO TOWN CLAIMED TO HAVE STARTED RED
Katsuki has claimed that they started out as blue!
THEY CLAIMED TO START AS BLUE
but they didn't start blue. They started red >_>
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Kind of an odd dodge of the questions I asked you.In post 2104, Dwlee99 wrote:sounds kinda like someone was reading a scum chat and educated themselves on the scum's purpose of painting me purple lol
So your theory is scum painted you purple because the logical move for scum to do would be to paint themselves purple, so they did it to you to set you up?
I didn't really read the entire argument for why it is "optimal" but that would probably be a good reason to do soI prefer they, thanks :)-
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if there is a scum godfather I think that the godfather would have started as blue as opposed to some other color. and AGAIN, it doesn't FUCKING MATTER if scum have blue paint. CAUSE NONE OF THE COLOR FLIPS THAT CONFIRM KATSUKI AS SCUM WERE BLUE!!!!In post 2111, Thor665 wrote:Neither bit of info actually answers my question as to why you presume all town started as blue and all scum as red - you were even discussing a scum godfather a while ago, which doesn't appear to exist, and also are not discussing any idea of scum having blue paint or not.
!!!!!I prefer they, thanks :)-
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I just realized how bullshit this entire argument is. Cause I could have been painted night 1, night 2 or night 3. We know katsuki started the game as red, but it is possible that one of the scum painted themselves night 1 night 2 or night 3 (you and ira are both still alive who have flipped non-blue and non-red). So the only thing you're saying is that one of the scum painted themselves not blue or not red nights 1 - 3 which no fucking duh all of the people who could be scum flipped non-blue and non-red.In post 2111, Thor665 wrote:I think that the goofy colors suggests a lack of blue paint.
I think by town being made red without claiming it suggests bad town play or scum with at least some red capability.
If I was scum, and couldn't make myself blue, and had limited ability to make town red, my goal to protect from paint investigation would be to early limit the possibility of a red paint check, and to also kill blue paint flips.
Scum appears to be following at least half of this strategy.
For you to be town, what is your theory for why they didn't follow the first half?I prefer they, thanks :)-
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can we just call me conftown for this post and let me decide if it is ira or thor tomorrow please
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Well I kinda have a history of bussing lolIn post 2130, Thor665 wrote:If you have a history of not bussing, we sure can.I prefer they, thanks :)-
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what?In post 2138, iraonavp wrote:
This is a scumslip because it assumes that he is scum-aligned.In post 2105, Dwlee99 wrote:katsuki has voted ira for two days straight, plenty of time for scum to come in and quick hammer if katsuki and ira are town.
I'm done with this blubbering discourse
VOTE: katsuki
If Dwlee99 was assuming himself to be town-aligned, the game would already be lost if Katsuki was town-aligned, even if I was scum-aligned...
The fact that he says this shows that he misused logic because of knowledge of his alignment.
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you're
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Katsuki: Im not confirmed scum cause I started the game read cause I would have painted myself blue!!!
WHAT IF THERE IS NO BLUE PAINT??
SOTTY, KATSUKI FYPOV SHOULD BE CONFIRMED TO HAVE STARTED THE GAME RED
THE ONLYYYY WAY that katsuki could be town fypov would be that scum started with a purple or (white?) godfather which is the stupidest shit ever. The only purpose a godfather would have is to avoid being caught as scum by the color flips and yet if someone color flipped as fucking white or purple on day 1 they would almost certainly be lynched.I prefer they, thanks :)-
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there wouldn't be a non-blue colored godfather in the game, end of story.In post 2066, Dwlee99 wrote:Katsuki = RED
Dwlee = PURPLE
irainavp = WHITE
wingback =BLACK
Zulfy= RED
Sotty = ???
No one starts as not blue/red.
So that means that three of the nights scum colored someone are already gone
Katsuki = RED
Zulfy= RED
Sotty = ???
zulfy was town and he flipped red, so he had to have been painted
Katsuki = RED
Sotty = ???
So that is nights one - four that we know one of those four people are colored.
And sotty claims to have been colored last night so that means that katsuki is the one in the list who has NOT been colored, meaning they started out as red, ergo katsuki is scum.I prefer they, thanks :)-
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