Mini 1828 : Akame Ga Kill Mafia (Game Over ?!)

[Vedith]

/confirm

VOTE: Liquid Nitrogen

Hello!

[Vedith]

I think Liquid Nitrogend actually rolled scum...

[Vedith]

I like the Wgeurts vote my partner laid down because Wgeurts could be fishing for info on who knows flavor as Scum.

~LQ

Because of this.
This is a bad post.

[Vedith]

It's trying to justify a vote when not required. LQ is just trying to look like he's doing something when in fact he did nothing. Then as soon as I say they have a scum role he gets defensive and counters with I'm scum.
I think Rask wanted to butter me up with saying hello too... I'm easily buttered up and ignore peoples faults that way.

Don't try to justify for their actions, they made their beds, now they have to lie in them!

[Vedith]

Lq is always quirky like that, and u know that vedith

I don't know that, explain it for me.

[Vedith]

I agree with LN, if they flip scum, then Pisskop is probably town.
LQ won't buddy scum hard, but he would buddy town hard.

[Vedith]

I started off by saying "I have a theory" not to be confused with "I think wgeurts is Scum, here's why".

So you were testing the waters?

[Vedith]

Kinda sorta??? IDK, I just sorta picked a direction and went with it.

Anyone standing out for you?
How about Rask?

[Vedith]

And it was not me (LQ) who asked for a sheep. I don't do that. I know by now people don't sheep me. That was Rask, so you'll have to ask them why they did that.

Also I kind of don't believe this, as you were on the mainly posting and we haven't seen Rask since. Everything has been about and aimed at you this only you could answer most. That post could easily be either of you.

That first post was Rask though.

[Vedith]

I think that one was Rask...

[Vedith]

Oh... I just assume all big posts are Rask... :<

[Vedith]

I don't like making big posts but sometimes I have to. Please read it.

I'll read it tomorrow, it's nearly 1am.
Normally I wouldn't bother but since I am scum reading you, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

[Vedith]

give me the tl;dr after u read that vedith

Will do

[Vedith]

give me the tl;dr after u read that vedith

Okay, so this is what I get from it.
LQ thought that Rask vote was okay. That's not really important overall as the vote itself holds no merit, and they share the same align.
The main focus on that post is that wgeurts is calling LN out for LN believing that wgeurts can't be town, and is mis repping what wgeurts is saying.
Now, LN (LQ) is saying that he doesn't think that wgeurts can't be town and has even said in the game that he can see a scenerio where wgeurts is town (Kind of wgeurts mis repping LN there I guess, but I don't feel it's intentional).
I think that LN has a fair point here, but the term mis rep is thrown around too easily now days, and people confuse it with wording incorrectly or just being incorrect... There's a big difference.

Did I basically get that right from that post, LN?

Either way I think LN was correct there, and unless backed up otherwise I don't see LN being set on wgeurts scum.

UNVOTE: Liquid Nitrogen

VOTE: AlpacaAlpaca

Didn't feel like contributing in 80?

[Vedith]

Is justifiying his vote when not required alignment indicative?

Plausible

Where did you draw the conclusion that he's attempting to look like he's doing something?

Before I said it

How is the reply statement from Liquid Nitrogen defensive?

He implied me as scum. Pretty defensive.

Is buttering someone alginment indicative?

Yes

Why should no one attempt to justify for their actions?

Justify their own actions, not others.

Read my comments again, and read them correctly.
And stop trying to look like you are trying so hard, as that was a pointless post.

[Vedith]

Anyone got any crayons for Ryan?
We can let him go play in the corner!

[Vedith]

In what way was it a bad post?

Ryan, I like you're avatar!
You can come back and play with us now!
Because it was LQ and all! Plus I don't understand the fishing part, I don't see it personally.

[Vedith]

wgeurts
Maxous
NavyCherub
RyanK

~

Niceuniceu
pisskop
Kraska77
randomidget
Nosferatu
DiamondSentinel

~

AlpacaAlpaca

[Vedith]

Go drown in a bowl of chexquest

:<

[Vedith]

Because he put me as town, that's good enough reason, right?

[Vedith]

But he put me as scum!!!!!
Don't endorse his fuckery!!!!!!!!!!!

I haven't looked at you at all this game... Maybe you are scum?

[Vedith]

I don't think we should town/scum read anyone just because they town/scum read us as town/scum reads can come from both scum and town.

Hmmm, maybe you're right.


Did you notice I town read you?

[Vedith]

Vedith unless I'm stupid I'm pretty sure Liquid isn't on your readlist and I'm curious as to where you would place him. (Also was still in RVS mode when i made post 80 so I wasn't feeling content but I'm back into it now)

It's a secret!
It was supposed to be moved to orange though.

So, I'm voting you now, I'm sure that you don't care, but do you think my vote would be better else where?
If so, where and why?

[Vedith]

Still thinking about where to vote so I'll keep you posted on that however question, you said that after the wall war you thought that Liquid was right about it but than you town read Wguerts and nullread Liquid?

I town read Wguerts from the approach. Although I said I think LN is right, I also said I doubt that Wguerts intentionally mis repped LN.
So yeah, Wguerts was wrong in the view, but that doesn't mean scum.

[Vedith]

Never fear, Vedith is here!
Prod accepted and stuff will be done later.

[Vedith]

And this is where I start really not liking how the people who joined me on the pisskop wagon act.

What was your reason again?

[Vedith]

I meant your reason for voting Pisskop.

[Vedith]

I said that here. He was posting a lot and not actually contributing. I still feel like this is a valid criticism, but the discourse hasn't progressed in a very positive way.

Fair enough.
I don't think Pisskop is a good lynch today.

[Vedith]

Navy's sudden switch to maxous and the way they got off pisskop so easily kinda reeks of scum...

It's only scummy if you actually believe Pisskop to be scum.

[Vedith]

No it's the way he backtracked when votes piled on

Again, that's only scummy if Pisskop is scummy.
If Pisskop is town, what reason does he have to backstep?

[Vedith]

yo im here

Who's scum?

[Vedith]

Give me some reads Ryan.
Stop trying to look useful.

[Vedith]

Give me some reads Vedith.
Stop trying to look useful.

I have reads
I just don't want to be useful.

The difference is you are trying to appear to be scum hunting... I'm not.

[Vedith]

at least he's putting some effort in, dunno why you're ragging on him when there's multiple people who aren't doing much at all.

what do you have against voting pisskop anyway?

I don't mind effort, if it's not fake.
I haven't seen a decent case on Pisskop... Why don't you vote Navy?

[Vedith]

He's being terrible. That game where I won hands down and carried my team where max was town and I pwned him he was much better at mafia than he is here.

Let up...

You're only calling him terrible because

A - You're town and he's calling you scum
B - You're scum and calling him scum.

Other than Max, who's scum?

Niceuniceu will be scum, but I'll take that with their replacement.
Ryan is more than likely scum

Lets juggle our thoughts.

[Vedith]

y ryan.

I see a lot of niceu, but aside from doing frakall I dont really think hes even blipped my radar.

Look at his ISO... He'll argue that he's scum hunting... But he's really not.
He's trying to throw shade around, look productive with questions that are completely pointless...

[Vedith]

Max has continuously allowed this one vote I had for him to consume him. He has done less than niceu since I have, hes been defensive about it, and he's been a nonfactor otherwise.

Dont you come to me talking about how some random kid who isnt making waves is scum but a fucker displaying all the classic signs of being scum isnt.

I've already come talking about that.
Your case on Max as scum is because he's voting you...
He hasn't done anything...

So if I chuck my vote on you do I fit that category too?

[Vedith]

Oh yeah, where the fuck is Alpaca... I had him as scum for some reason.

[Vedith]

and ryan's done a bunch of weird things but ultimately i feel like he would have adapted his play if he were scum bc ppl keep calling him out on it

Because you know, changing your play style while being called out isn't scummy...

[Vedith]

and ryan's done a bunch of weird things but ultimately i feel like he would have adapted his play if he were scum bc ppl keep calling him out on it

Because you know, changing your play style while being called out isn't scummy...

i dont think anyone would have noticed anything if he stopped asking filler questions tho?

Why not? What else would he be posting?
Just images? That would be pretty fucking noticeable!

[Vedith]

Ryan is so scummy...
Lets lynch!

[Vedith]

Ryan is so scummy...
Lets lynch!

In what way?

In the way with burning you while we hold pitch forks and shout rabblerabblerabble.

[Vedith]

Ryan is so scummy...
Lets lynch!

In what way?

In the way with burning you while we hold pitch forks and shout rabblerabblerabble.

I meant in what way am I scummy?

lol pretty sure he understood

@Alpaca - Vote Ryan and I'll consider you town.

[Vedith]

So explain to me why Ryan should be lynched - Because he's new?

New players can't be scum, or what?

[Vedith]

VOTE: RyanK

Kraska, vote with me!

[Vedith]

Alpaca is probably telling the truth.
We can just confirm him tonight. As it stands we should be lynching someone.

[Vedith]

So explain to me why Ryan should be lynched - Because he's new?

New players can't be scum, or what?

VOTE: RyanK

Kraska, vote with me!

Vedith, explanation here?

That should have said shouldn't be lynched.
Phone posting at work :<

[Vedith]

How do u feel about a ln wagon vedith

Give me reasons, I'm out tonight and phone has no battery but I'll look when I get home.
I can think of better wagons though.

[Vedith]

I have a scum lean on vedith though.

Surprise.

[Vedith]

I have a scum lean on vedith though.

Surprise.

And what is your read on my slot?

Scum

[Vedith]

Post later

[Vedith]

Who did Titus replace?
Last time Titus fakes Mason she was town btw.
Titus lies as town, it's a known fact.

[Vedith]

Oh boy! So Titus plays objectively shittily. It's not just my opinion anymore.

Regardless, she's most likely town.

[Vedith]

Plus, she took over wgeurts.
I'd say town.

[Vedith]

Well then we are mutually at same place.
Whats your read with DS?

Difference is, I'm going by your other body... You just haven't done anything to make me think town.
DS - Putting over time in the game. His posts seem genuine enough for me to say town.

[Vedith]

Today's lynch should be Fire or Ryan.
Ryan is still just trying to look like he's donig something, when he really isn't.
I would suggest Al Paca but until we get confirmation on his align tonight, he's off the table.

[Vedith]

Yogurts
Anyway
Who's scum to u other than Ryan?

Fire.
You could be scum too.

[Vedith]

I haven't done anything in the game is true, I don't believe your scumreading me of that though.

I never said what you're doing is scum.

[Vedith]

Hey scumbutt. You called me scum.
What kind of word game you trying to play?

Blame your other body.
The moment you took over scum my heart broke </3

Niceuniceu will be scum, but I'll take that with their replacement.

[Vedith]

I would suggest we go with a no lynch, unless it is clear DiamondSentinel is town.

Looking at this scum trying to say no lynch.

VOTE: Diamond
L1

I am 100% a no lynch today and it's stupid to try pushing for it.
Ryan or Fire will be suitable lunches and if Ryan flips scum doesn't look good for Diamond anyway

[Vedith]

It gives up information still.

[Vedith]

y would it fail?


have ti work for the next 7 hours should i hammer now?

Can do.
Then we can lynch Ryan or Alpaca tomorrow depending on the result from Alpaca.

[Vedith]

Can we atleast put alpaca at l-2 before hammer...
VOTE: alpaca

No.
If he's scum we're not giving him a dayvig.
If he's town he's dead tongiht anyway so he won't be able to use it.
That's why I highly doubt his claim as town at this stage because the role is redundent to it's effect.

The way he worded it means that we have to end the day on him being L2 as well to get it, correct?

Ryan is just trying to have a no lynch because 1 - One of the favoured votes (most likely DS) is scum 2 - He doesn't want town to gain any information and to go into day 2 with our finger up our arses and 3 - He's just looking for town cred.

Regardless - He's scum here.

[Vedith]

Yeah
Ive played with alpaca before and I'm pretty sure he is town here though

Ryans derptown not scum

Nah, I've played with Ryan town. He's probably scum here.
He was a lot more focused on actual scum hunting as town rather than just asking stupid questions and trying to coast by.
I think he's out of his comfort zone as scum here.

[Vedith]

Protection is a thing
Scun might have a strongman shot or whatever but we don't lose anything by giving this a try anyway

Without discussing where protections should actually be, I don't think his claim alone justifies him being protected, as he's done nothing else this game.
If he's town read for that alone, then fuck a duck, I'm taking that play for my scum games.

[Vedith]

You haven't done much either other than pester Ryan who's town
So

Difference is I won't argue that I've done fuck all.
Apart from finding scum, of course.

I like how you dismissed my comment on Ryan being scum there without asking for anything to back it up or countering it in anyway.

I can see you being scummy.
And before you claim that I've just decided that;

Fire.
You could be scum too.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Fire Assassin

What did you do last night, huh?!
HUH?!

[Vedith]

Can I claim?

[Vedith]

Navy/Vedith/???
Thats where I am at.

Go over those again...

[Vedith]

I was null on navy but I think he would be the most likely to kill kraska
You for pushing on DS and your now push on me. It also doesn't feel like you are attempting to game solve at all and just sneak by going with the crowd.

Go over my push on Diamond again.
And this push on you is new, correct? In your mind I mean. Like, day 2 scum thought on you, yeah?

[Vedith]

You jumped on it when you had other scumreads and you tied him too two people, its just throwing stuff at the wall.
Yes, you said you scumread me yesterday. But its definitely not pushed. You only vote me now that I have several other votes.

So whats your thoughts on RyanK anyways now since you seemed ot think he was tied with DS?

I think that town you would have come in with me as town after last night.
So as it stands, I'm only considering scum with you.
Ryan still isn't in my town section and I am saying now that he is trying to look productive without doing so.
You're just 100% scum to me. :<

So, go over my push on Diamond again?
Voting him and pushing him are 2 different things.

[Vedith]

What is the point of this post?

It was a joke.
However, I will full claim once Fire claims his night actions. Basically I have a confirmed guilty on him depending on what he done.

[Vedith]

Guilty that doesn't involve cop, btw.

[Vedith]

I'll be on tonight

[Vedith]

Vote Fire please.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Rem
Second confirmed scum going by my night actions.

[Vedith]

LN or Nos are the final scum.
I'll explain my role after the Rem lynch.

[Vedith]

how is rem scum if you targeted FA two nights ago?

I didn't target FA 2 nights ago.
But this comment means that Nos is probably the 3rd scum. I guess scum thought I was VT now so they didn't kill me.
People can either believe me that Rem is confirmed guilty considering I already confirmed FA as scum (which he was) or they can sit down and jerk each other off.

[Vedith]

Sure, lynch me off. Rem and Nos are final scum though. easy game, easy money.

[Vedith]

If I'm lynched it will be clear.
If I out it before the Rem lynch then Rem gets a free pass to get away with it.

Take that as you will, all I know is that Rem's going to be lynched.

And lets face it, when does Titus ever get scum right now days? Every game I have seen her in as of late, she is always defending scum (while she's town) and targeting town.
Her opinion in this game is null and void imo.

[Vedith]

I believe Fire after rereading.. He's the only one who volunteered a full claim.

Who posted this btw?
Rask or LQ?

[Vedith]

The mod said that Rem is not Run in our PT thread. That would require the mod lie to me.

Wouldn't be the first time that

you

lie to save what you believe though, eh?

[Vedith]

Nope, but I wouldn't lie about the mod's integrity though, or things other players had to make a choice on scum.

That's not true.
You would lie about anything to get people to believe you.

[Vedith]

If I get lynched today, I'd look at Fire, Max and Wgeurts.

Why were these 3 to be looked at if you were lynched?
Why were none of these voted by you when saying this?

VOTE: Alpaca
First order of business today is getting this to l-2.
Although I don't really townread him either.

Why would you get someone to L2 without town reading them knowing that it gives them a day vig?

[Vedith]

And the mod lying to me?

We only have your word that mod said that...

[Vedith]

Vedith was trying to save Fire.

How was I trying to save Fire?
I gave my guilty on him day 2.

[Vedith]

LN is scum and most likely so are you.

You are so bad as town, and it's a continuous action from you.

[Vedith]

You think I would lie about that given what happened last time?

Yes... You would lie about it if you felt it would help your case.
When you think that you are right, you won't listen to anyone else even though you are wrong more often than not. This is why you result to lying.

[Vedith]

Also, Navy won't be scum. Not how Fire went against him.
Fire distances, but he doesn't try to throw buddies under the bus.

[Vedith]

If Al Paca actually gets a day vig, given the setup so far and what I already know, he will be town.
Titus is town because shit Titus.

[Vedith]

So scum has to be in Rem, Nos, LQ and Piss.

I don't re call my read on Piss though.

[Vedith]

This is the only reason I want him to claim. I actually have an ability which would technically be able to mess with something

Why would you give this information away for free?

[Vedith]

@Piss - Who is LN's partner in your opinion?

[Vedith]

Because it's pretty useless now. Like 99% useless.

But what benefit does it give to town at all?
What is someone claimed a re director? Then you could have CC...

[Vedith]

So scum has to be in Rem, Nos, LQ and Piss.

Technically we have enough lynch/vig power to kill all of those.

I would like to warn alpaca not to shoot me though, not today at least.

Okay, so who should he shoot?

[Vedith]

Shouldn't actually shoot rem either because titus would resurrect her apparently. I'd advocate nosferatu or navycherub.

But which one, and why?

[Vedith]

And I assume you think Piss is town then, correct?

[Vedith]

Either of them, because I don't townread them and they're lurker motherfuckers. I townread pisskop and LQ did too.

Okay. I still doubt Fire would vote Navy over me if Navy was scum.
That's a terrible choice.

So the reason is because they are lurking. And you haven't got anything else read wise with anyone else?

[Vedith]

I townread pisskop and LQ did too.

Can you give examples why?

[Vedith]

If Titus is Kurome then flavour makes sense to be AI.
However, if it is, scum have fake claims.

@Titus - without actually saying what the mod said - was it in the PT with you and Rem or was it in your personal role?
Does it state who they are or does it say "They are not X"?

[Vedith]

So if scum have a fake claim, why wouldn't mod give that fake claim?
If you are Kurome, does that name given to Rem match up flavour wise?
If not, you might want to re think it.

[Vedith]

@Vedith,

Can you explain this alleged guilty?

I'll explain when the time is right.

[Vedith]

If Vedith is town, I'm voteparking you.

Also, I thought LN is my buddy?
Shouldn't you vote park there regardless after I die?

[Vedith]

I mean, I haven't said you're scum yet.
I'm trying to get an idea of what's what.

@Titus - Explain to me how I was trying to save Fire.

Vedith was trying to save Fire.

[Vedith]

The "guilty" on Rem.

You said that I was trying to save Fire.
Fire was lynched yesterday and I got my guilty on Rem in the night phase after the lynch.

Explain how I was trying to save fire.

[Vedith]

@Vedith what you said about navy/fire actually isn't true I think. If fire was distancing anyone it would be navy (or you, or no-one). The problem is navy individually actually looks alright.

He wasn't distancing, he would have been trying to throw Navy under the bus, which he doesn't do as scum.

[Vedith]

I don't think it counted as throwing under the bus if he thought it wouldn't actually go through, the point he did it he might have already picked up that max had something on him.
It is possible he didn't distance anyone that day though if his partner was lurking and he wouldn't want to bring attention to them.

I disagree.

[Vedith]

I thought you claimed the guilty on Rem yesterday...

Show me.
I claimed a guilty on Fire, and guess what, he was scum.

[Vedith]

You also can't say Titus is town then argue that she is wrong

in saying that her role pm states that I am town.

My role PM doesn't state you are town.

It's a logical conclusion I am drawing based on my power.

[Vedith]

Literally fake claiming guilties, bussing scum, lynch, move on.

So I bussed both of my buddies?
I mean, there's bussing, and there's giving 2 guilty on my buddies.

[Vedith]

I don't trust your guilty at all, especially since you claim a guilty on someone you didn't even target

My action is during the day with a night result you fucktard.

[Vedith]

I don't trust your guilty at all, especially since you claim a guilty on someone you didn't even target

My action is during the day with a night result you fucktard.

Let me get this fucking straight. What you're telling me is, that you're a daycop that magically bypassed FA's reflexive action to target the apparent Mason, who so far is doing exactly what Titus said was going to happen?

There is no measure for my disbelief at this shit.

I already said it's not cop. Learn to read, Nos.
This is just scum flailing right now.

Also, mod would never give a non mason confirmed flavour of their neighbor and character name.
I can grantee that Titus is lying about knowing who Rem is and the flavour.

Regardless, Titus is a terrible lynch because stupid Titus = town Titus.

VOTE: Nos

[Vedith]

It happened in Steven Universe large theme. I mention this. Vedith ignores it.

I wasn't in that game though.
Okay, so why would scum know that you are lovers? Does it state that they know?

[Vedith]

VOTE: Vedith

I am not lying asshole.

Would be a first.

[Vedith]

I've played with titus, she doesn't outright lie about game mechanics just cause. You have some form of investigative/informative ability, that much is clear, call it what you want, day cop, day tracker, day watcher, who cares. There is no way, AND I MEAN NONE, that you bypassed FA's ability. You targeted him D1 and got your result N1 and announced it D2. D1 you lost your fucking role. End of story. It's reflexive! BP's don't suddenly not work against day vigs cause they're resolved at different times, you target a reflexive vanillizer, you get vanilized. there is no way you targeted FA and then got a result on Rem. I say this with ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY, that you are bullshitting, unless the mod confirms that FA's role doesn't work on an ability activated in the Day.

I didn't target Fire, again, you need to re read the game I think. You can flail as much as you like though.
You also say that Titus doesn't lie, but she is claiming to be a lover with Rem, saying that both of them die if Rem does. Yet she can stop the death of Rem after it happens. Unless you believe that she is a delayed lover, that can resurrect and actually believed that they were masons originally (and knowing each others characters and flavour), then you're pretty shit.
I suspect that Titus can revive Rem, but Rem can't revive Titus - because Rem is scum in this situation.
@Titus - Able to confirm if Rem can revive you as well (if Rem is revived, of course).

Personally I feel that giving fake flavour claim to a town would be boarder line bastard, so it's either that or Titus is really lying.

[Vedith]

Considering that's what I do to Fire every game I think he's scum.
Once again Nos. Read my comments. I do my ability during the day, I get my result at night. I didn't target Fire.
If you are struggling to read my comments correctly, I'll hand you some crayons and we can draw a picture together?

[Vedith]

Once we vote off Nos, that's going to be GG anyway.

[Vedith]

The only 3rd scum I can see here has to be Nos or Piss.
Titus, Navy, Al Paca and LN aren't scum.

The fact that Nos is trying to defer from the Rem being lynched (trying to ensure the revive) suggests more him than Piss. Scum would know that Rem and Titus are delayed lovers, of course (they probably aren't to be honest).
He also seems genuinely pissed off that I have my powers still, as I highly suspect scum thought it was gone.

On the other hand, I don't see much from Piss right now, trying to stay low possibly while town argue.

[Vedith]

VOTE: vedith

[Vedith]

Why am i scum?

I said Nos is scum... Hence the vote on him.
Everyone else is town so you probably are town as there is only 1 scum left.
My only argument to you is the input you are giving, which is very little. Nos on the other hand is just scum flailing imo.

[Vedith]

I thought he was making a good point about you?

I don't.
His response seems like he knew a little too much, however, that was scum just getting their information wrong.

Talk to me about Titus and Rem being delayed lovers with a revive if you like though.
You buy that shit?

[Vedith]

Vedith what was your day 1 result then?

That Fire is a naughty boy!

[Vedith]

Considering that's what I do to Fire every game I think he's scum.
Once again Nos. Read my comments. I do my ability during the day, I get my result at night. I didn't target Fire.
If you are struggling to read my comments correctly, I'll hand you some crayons and we can draw a picture together?

your ability doesn't target anyone? You just snap your fingers during the day and the mod hands you scum at night?

I didn't say it doesn't target anyone.
Now making things up to try and save yourself?

[Vedith]

you are so idiotic that I legitimately laughed right here

you've been incessantly repeating that you didn't target FA but you got a result from him? Do you see how immensely moronic that is?

I got information which highly suggested that he was guilty.
Him trying to call me scum just proved it was right.
Keep trying though solider!

[Vedith]

Im unhappy with how many killing and killstopping roles are in the game.

it makes me feel useless.

Yeah it's a strange setup so far.
Took several messages for me to understand my roles.

[Vedith]

For example, 1 of the things I can do is make someone perform their night action twice but it then makes me hated (which stakes), however, I haven't seen too many town night actions so far to use this on.
Even if I choose someone and they have no night action is still makes me hated.

[Vedith]

There is literally zero logical explanations for what you're saying rn. You haven't claimed to have any info on rem, you just claimed a guilty. Nothing like with FA. It doesn't make sense at all.

[Vedith]

For example, 1 of the things I can do is make someone perform their night action twice but it then makes me hated (which

stacks

), however, I haven't seen too many town night actions so far to use this on.
Even if I choose someone and they have no night action is still makes me hated.

[Vedith]

but not vedith.

Why?
The way you are speaking makes me believe that you think that Nos will flip town.
And you are already lining up the "Why was Vedith not killed?"...

[Vedith]

Titus is town, and I don't believe the delayed lover claim.
She just needs to consider this... If Rem can't revive her like she can Rem, then Rem is confirmed scum.

Voting Titus here is a terrible play

[Vedith]

Stop voting Titus people. It's stupid. If she's town and right, you're killing two townies at once.

Let's get the actual scum please.

It's either you or Piss.
If you're actually town, you should be looking into Piss right now, but I don't see much of that.

[Vedith]

I think you're remembering his scum play.

So is you saying that Piss is a lurker as town and pushes well as scum with people sheeping him?
How much experience have you got with Piss?

[Vedith]

I cannot see Titus have more than 1 shot on reviving Rem.
I assume

IF

it's true and

IF

Rem is town, the ability is joint rather than just one.
Fact of the matter is that Titus and Rem and dead tonight if both are town. Killing 2 town off for the price of 1 is far greater than causing more shade onto Rem (or even Titus, if you're bad enough to think she is scum). Even more so with keeping me alive in MyLo. Just let Titus revive, and if they are alive tomorrow then Rem is scum.

I'm very sure that Rem is scum here though, and Titus is being Titus.
@LN - What 'role fuckery' do you mean? You have no knowledge to what I have done apart from it was during the day. I can't imagine that you would comment with that to anything else but my guilty claim. What makes you have the impression that it's role fuckery instead of me reading something wrong or lying?
Considering that my result would have been pretty damn hard to mess around with anyway.

Personally, Fire had a pretty strong role, but I can't see scum having that without a re director either. The problem with Fire's role is it would be obvious that he's most likely scum if targeted, they want to get others to target Fire and make the blame go to town. What's your view on this LN?

@Nos - Why have you not put your vote back on me?

[Vedith]

as town he doesn't become a dominant force in the game directing conversation.

He doesn't as scum either from what I remember.
Last 3 games you were in with Piss (if you remember of course, otherwise I'll check)?

[Vedith]

wh cant titus be scum again?

She can. It's just the least likely person here to flip scum.
If you think that this is scum Titus...

[Vedith]

idk maybe I don't have experience with town!piss but it seems like he's just demotivated by the game atm

What makes you think he seems demotivated?
This kind of conflicts with your earlier argument.

[Vedith]

he's lurking and not doing shit? Even scum pk is involved.

So Piss is always unmotivated as town or what?

[Vedith]

y r u interested in nos' read on me; exploring it in lengthy, multipage detail instead of fucking playing mafia?

His read on you makes no sense.
He's trying to buddy you, and you should be better than this to see it.

[Vedith]

tfw a townread is apparently buddying and voicing it is defending him

is this still fucking mafia

I'm getting on this later because if I recall you said he's town because scum Piss takes the lead and town Piss doesn't.
Then when I question this you then decide he's just unmotivated in this game instead of town Piss not taking the lead (after I said I'll look at your games with him).
That's a big difference to voicing your opinion.

But I'll re read when at a PC to make sure I didn't miss read your comments

[Vedith]

I lost all my powers targeting Fire.
So far my other powers seem pretty useless in this game as I take negative effect on them but 2 of my roles require town to have a night action while I'm seeing a lack of (all my powers were day)
Reason I claimed guilty is because Ryan was scum. I know Ryan enough to know when he's acting odd.
The fact that Rem possibly can't revive Titus means highly likely scum for me.

This is wherreally I'm at - If scum isn't within Rem then they would want him dead before me so I'm then lynched.

I still stand with Titus and Rem dead tonight if both town as the reward is far greater to kill both.

I did notice how LN changed views so quickly.

[Vedith]

Spoiled brat play is annoying

pot, kettle.

[Vedith]

lets go back to how vedith argued I'm scum and dismissed my points when I called bullshit on his actual bullshit

But you had no points. Just got annoys when you thought I still had powers.

[Vedith]

so why arent you voting titus

Because voting Titus is terrible.

[Vedith]

no, you were bullshitting a guilty to get a lynch, a tactic that can only logically be used by scum. You are scum, and I fully intend on lynching that.

You were just salty because you thought I had my powers, now you need to keep it up to look genuine.

[Vedith]

Rem can't possibly revive Titus and be town or Titus and Rem win by nature of their role PM. They become unkillable masons.

But that's the point, they are not masons.
Town being able to save scum to save themselves makes sense (Since town doesn't have the scum knowledge to immediate effect).
Scum not being able to save town makes sense.

If they have 1 revive between them, it changes the entire thing, this is why I was asking Titus. However, until told otherwise, I'm going with only Titus can revive Rem.
Means Rem scum for me, and Nos is the last scum.

[Vedith]

It's Mylo fucktards.

So who are we waiting on to claim?

I've never seen a scum vig

I've never seen a scum vig

I've never seen a scum vig

[Vedith]

I'm VT now.

I lost all my powers targeting Fire.

Posted again as you were too stupid to see before...

[Vedith]

Doesn't matter.
If you wasn't stupid you would be trying to work out why Titus took 3 votes.
Not if my un needed guilty was real on Fire (it was)
Also, I ended the day pretty town read, that's why it would have been pretty un needed

The vote would have probably been a night action. Scum action.

This means that there is 1 scum on the Titus lynch and 1 off.
Now, I'm not scum, and you're not scum, so that indicates that Nos

IS

scum... OMG, say what?!
Piss is just a fucking moron so he's not scum leaving LN and Al Paca as final scum. LN just threw mud and left the day as it was letting people bicker. A lynch on Titus then me after was perfect if he's scum.
The thing with Al Paca is, if he's town that's another person I would not have been able to use

2

of my abilities on. That means that so far the only person that could have them used on so far was Max, Rando and Kraska. Considering my role based mainly around those 2, that's a really slim chance in this game.

And considering I use my action on Fire every game we are in together first, it's really not unusual that I targeted Fire, got a result, turned VT, and OMG guess what!!!! Gave the result and got him lynched (a powerful for scum)
OMG, SAY WHAT?!?!



GTFO with telling me that you aren't stupid.

[Vedith]

Yeah I normally offend people with giving truthful facts these days.

[Vedith]

I don't disagree.
Doesn't mean I'm wrong about you here. Every dog has it's day and all...

[Vedith]

Who is scum again? And why?

Titus wagon is not a bad place to look. would you care to vca?

I don't overly do VCA.
1 scum on the wagon though imo.

[Vedith]

LN or Al Paca.
LN is the obvious shout but Al Paca town with the powers we know makes less sense.

VCA is normally useless.
I vote Fire with a guilty and get called scum - this is why it's pointless to do but knock yourself out with it.

[Vedith]

As I said, feel free to use it, each to their own.

[Vedith]

Vedith claims guities that don't make sense
Vedith claims guilty on Firebringer(?) and then LATER changes his stance and says he was vanillaized.

This is false. I never changed my stance on Fire being guilty.

If I am not hammered by anyone, this confirms that LN and Nos are the scum team

[Vedith]

While Vedith was up for lynch, he was no where to be found..
Vedith's claim was under scrutiny at that time and he doesn't change his story until the heat is almost completely off of him

Also, I was V/LA so this is another lie.

[Vedith]

Busing.

Busing.

Busing.

[Vedith]

If you are not hammered it

could

mean that you ARE Scum.

To you is should mean that I am... But you use the word could?
You blew your vote too early imo.

[Vedith]

The way I word things is NAI.

That's a lie.
The way anyone words anything if a huge AI.
It's the small things.

[Vedith]

This is very plausible considering the dynamic between fire and Vedith. They are best buds and I would not at all be surprised if they tried to pull something like this as Scum buddies.

You blew your vote too early.
You also disappeared yesterday when focus was all on me and Titus. As I already said, you are the obvious scum here.

[Vedith]

The small things don't mean shit when we are in a game like this.

I suggest mass claim.

Of course it does. The small things are where scum slip up. You slipped up on a small thing.
What claims have we got so far?

Piss can't die
I'm VT
Al Paca is a earned day kill
Math?
You?
Nos?

[Vedith]

I'm going to pre assume that Nos is a "Doc" and that's why you posted

This means we definitely have or had a Doctor.

[Vedith]

Stop using that dumb ass emoji like it means anything at all.

I was first on the titus wagon so its impossible for me to have hammered

. You on the other hand cannot say that.

[Vedith]

That's rich, I have the last 2 Scum in you, alpaca and Piss.

Yeah it's me and Piss...

[Vedith]

Could be math as well?

You're a smart one, eh?

[Vedith]

Stop, really, that does nothing.

It's a stupid comment, I can't help but laugh at it.

[Vedith]

You gunna tell me how its impossible?

[Vedith]

That is not a Townie reaction tho? Like Town would examine it more, consider it, not laugh. Its a cover up that you are guilty.

Considering you know that as town I get insulting to stupid people, this proves you are scum to me.
Your stupid comment makes me laugh, Nos's stupid comments make me laugh.

Math being stupid made me laugh.
Piss is being less stupid so I'm not laughing there
Al Paca hasn't spoken yet, but I'm sure he's going to say something stupid.

I'll just laugh at each stupid comment from now on.

[Vedith]

That is not a Townie reaction tho?

[Vedith]

[Vedith]

You are a child.

[Vedith]

Also, given that Titus was lynched after 3 votes. We should treat me as L1 and anyone put onto 2 votes.
As stated, I believe this would have been a night action, as it has no indication to a double voter etc, and no reason to believe it was active day 1 (although it may have been possible).
If it was activated during the day yesterday, it would just indicate Nos as scum anyway.

So, LN... You were talking about a mass reveal.

Lets hear yours.
I would prefer you, Nos then Math (Because Math is my scum buddy).

Cheers.

[Vedith]

It's MYLO.
You always claim on MYLO.

[Vedith]

Actually, it's MYLO you claim by site meta.
I also claimed before MYLO. I'm VT, said that before.
As you are all so hard for my non-existent role now though.

1 - I can motivate someone in using their

night

power twice, but doing this (even if failed) makes me hated (which stacks). This was not used.
2 - I can try and guess a user’s

night

power, and if correct I choose their target. They either accept or decline and are role blocked.
3 - I can select a player and if they do a

night

action, they receive a cop result on me (Scum or town get this). If I select someone who does not perform a night action, even if they can, this power can be used but has no effect (I am unaware).

I chose option 3. 1 gives me a nerf and 2 takes knowing a role.
As soon as Fire responded with "Private" when I asked what he done, I knew that he did a night action and received a result on me. That's not a response a fire does when he doesn't do a night action, regardless of alignment.
The fact he was still calling me scum meant that he was guilty as he would have received not guilty on me.
It was a knowledgeable guilty.

You can now see why I have trouble believing that town only have 3 confirmed roles with a maximum of 5 at best that my role effects.
All my powers are day use only for night effect, and I can only use 1 a day.
Well, they were.

Fluff wise if you want it I can request it but as most people know, I delete most of my messages so I don't have it to hand.
As you can see, all scum have a fake role and fluff anyway so that's pretty pointless.

I also received that I was VT after I said Fire was guity and didn't see it until 2 real days later due to V/LA.

[Vedith]

Vedith can you claim flavour also?

Najenda

Town Captain Motivator

[Vedith]

How would you get "private".

You mis read my comment.
Read again and try not to be stupid this time.
I know for a fact that you can be smart on games, so what gives?

[Vedith]

Its private.

@Math because you're fucking stupid right now...

[Vedith]

Also, I want to point out...
We have Piss saying that he can't be killed.
I had 1 shot night immunity - Just noticed it on relook of my PM.
Titus can revive REM
Al Paca can make someone death immune.

There's really something not right here.

[Vedith]

---- N3 I targeted Nobody (I ran out of town reads)

---- N3 I targeted Nobody (I ran out of town reads)

---- N3 I targeted Nobody (I ran out of town reads)

Titus was probably right here...
I mean, really?

[Vedith]

So this is where I'm at.
Scum not killing is just plain dumb.
Out of everyone Math or Piss would be the best target.
This means the shot was stopped or they shot Piss trying to call a bluff.
Originally I expected a secret vote on me so either it was a 1 shot or scum fear that their shot can be blocked.

The fact we have 3 people alive that can prevent death is too much (even if I can't now).

Piss full claim please.
We were given both roles given to Fire we need to work from that to see alternatives.
Scum motivator is too strong.

[Vedith]

I'm out atm and might be popping to the cinema but I'll get to this tonight.
A full mass claim should happen though.

[Vedith]

NOWHERE should we mass claim in MYLO.

[Vedith]

Doesn't Al paca being able to make anyone immune from death and yet be a day vig ping you?
It swings the game if he makes someone immune on top of Piss.
Not to mention if I motivated him and he died.
I'm not sure why no one has concern on this.

[Vedith]

You said you never motivated earlier.

I'm not saying I did, I'm stating the possibilities from joint roles.
But no one seems to be concerned with it... That's what worries me.

It's sad that the only person here that I'm confident as town is Piss, and that's because he's being way too stupid for ScumPiss.
I'm done enough with the game, Math is either scum or has his head so far up his own arse, Nos is just shit and seems to copy.
LN seems too obvious as scum to be scum.
Lets just get this voer with and hope town have something to stop the scum win tonight.

VOTE: Vedith

My final thoughts on scum are Al Paca and Nos/Math (more leaning Nos).

Lets get it over with.

@Mod - V/LA until day over

Take this as my scum claim though.

[Vedith]

Really interesting setup.
Math would have probably been second to last I would have lynched yesterday so I think scum did pretty well there.
With Math being a loud player, Nos was never going to be lynched meaning the only alternative option would have been Al Paca or LN.
Well played.

I like the role I received, even if I didn't understand it too well
I'm not sure if it would be too powerful, but maybe increasing it to use on people for their following day or night actions rather than just night.

[Vedith]

The only day actions were day vigs and we really didn't want to have more kills in the game!

In fairness I wouldn't ever give it to an un confirmed day vig encase they are scum anyway.

[Vedith]

Hugs. You were right Vedith. I was scum but that was unintentional derpage XD.

I was taking a gambit on you being town. I would have probably lynched Al Paca over Nos anyway if both were at L1, so I would have derped either way xD

[Vedith]

I'm surprised Vedith is town. Sorry Vedith if this message is offensive.

That's the times you know I'm town.

[Vedith]

Wasn't a mason

[Vedith]

That's better.

[Vedith]

@Vedith, what purpose did your self vote serve?

Doesn't matter to you, mod knows why and that's all that matters.

[Vedith]

@Vedith, what purpose did your self vote serve?

Doesn't matter to you, mod knows why and that's all that matters.

I do need to know actually considering I will prolly be playing more games with you in the future.

I'lll send you a message.