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Nahdia They/ThemScheherazadeThey/Them
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"they flipped town so they were conftown"
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no. they weren't.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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People we aren't lynching: pisskop, pieguyn.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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pisskop pointed out during Night 1 (before Varsoon flipped) that his role states he's in every neighborhood. meaning the claim that varsoon & wisdom have a private hood together was a fakeclaim. meaning they're both scum from his point of view.
again he did this Night 1, before the mafia team even knew Varsoon was getting shot. there's no way pisskop would out both his partners like that. he can't be on a team with them, and im doubtful he's scum in a 9-2-1 or 9-2-2 setup.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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iunno, he's been pushing aero as SK since day 2. i just don't see it. iguessit's possible but he's like, one of the very last guys i'd lynch atm.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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why doesn't luna work with varsoon & wisdom again?we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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im not totally sold on gamma being town either, but meh.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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Well allow me, the IC, to second what Aero just said.In post 3024, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm just going to ignore what Aero is saying since he obviously either A) doesn't have all his thoughts together or B) is throwing shade at me.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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Well who WOULD you expect to make such a play?In post 3032, pieguyn wrote:another thing is - I mean no offense to GE, but I really do not think he's the type of scum player who would think of an abstract play like no-killing every night so that town lynches the vig based on SK/multiball paranoia.
someone can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I remember him being a player who usually gets lynched early as scum and that would be some really next-level shit if he completely turned that around and thought to do something like that.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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Curious.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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English?we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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(That was at pisskop)we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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Implying you ever were considering her confed................????????????we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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As foretold in the prophecy.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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I would be more willing to entertain the possibility of pieguyn being scum purely on role speculation if it weren't for the fact that pieguyn is transparently town.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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Especially if pieguyn is a traitor, meaning they don't have control over their faction's kills, lmao.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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lolIn post 3078, Luna Fox wrote:It's entirely nullwe're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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Last night would have been the night to kill me if they had the ability, considering Luna was blocking you. When I die, you become conftown anyway.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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pieguyn if we're ever scum together you should claim backup IC and i'll claim actual IC but refuse to confirm a few days in.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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it's brilliant, really.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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huhwe're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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oh.
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So how do you explain the fact that pisskop confirmed both Varsoon and Wisdom as scum during Night 1?we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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Seriously, the willful ignorance around here is kind of crazy.
Why is Luna conftown now?In post 3129, SirCakez wrote:This seems super simple to me
I'm taking Luna as basically conftown now, so I want to lynch PK and if it's not him, have Luna block Pie again
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Why would he out both of them though? Why?????we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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That's like, literally selling out your entire team. Insanity.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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. . .No?In post 3161, Gamma Emerald wrote:Because his role REQUIRES him to do that or have suspicion cast on him.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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.....................And? If he's scum he's scum. What the fuck are you even saying?In post 3164, Gamma Emerald wrote:Think about if pisskop was vigged instead of Varsoon. He didn't mention a neighborhood with V and W, meaning they're confscum. GG town.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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Regardless of whether pisskop says anything or not, we know from pisskop's role PM that Varsoon and Wisdom are scum. Once he's dead it's not like he needs to worry about towntelling more.
If anything, them claiming that demonstrates pisskop isn't on a team with them; he coulda told Varsoon and Wisdom that his role contradicts a claim of being in a hood together. pisskop can only be scum if he's a traitor.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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Oh my god.In post 3172, Gamma Emerald wrote:
But if he is scum with them, he has to bus them based on his role. If he flips, then V and W are confscum for fakeclaiming a neighborhood.In post 3170, Nahdia wrote:Regardless of whether pisskop says anything or not, we know from pisskop's role PM that Varsoon and Wisdom are scum. Once he's dead it's not like he needs to worry about towntelling more.
If anything, them claiming that demonstrates pisskop isn't on a team with them; he coulda told Varsoon and Wisdom that his role contradicts a claim of being in a hood together. pisskop can only be scum if he's a traitor.
Ok, let's try this. Let's say you're scum with Alice and Bob. In your role PM, it says "Alice and Bob are scum with you". And for whatever reason, you know that if you die, that part of your role PM will flip to.
DO YOU TELL EVERYONE THAT ALICE AND BOB ARE SCUM?we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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You're beingincrediblydense, Gamma. I know you're smarter than this. Take a step back and rethink this, you're flat outwronghere.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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Oh my god. Dude.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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You're so fucking stupid.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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He said it in a NEIGHBORHOOD. WithOUT THE VIG IN IT.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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And regardless of if he tells us when he's alive or we find out when he's dead, we still find out one way or another that Wisdom & Varsoon are confscum.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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Christ almighty. If that was your point then why didn't you get to it 50 fucking posts ago.
It's a bad point, because pisskop was in no danger of dying, but at least it makes some logical sensewe're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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VOTE: Remilia Scarletwe're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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fucking knew it.
her name is in RED, guys.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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That's L-1 btw.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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boo.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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Well, here's the thing. And I mean, we can no lynch again today to test this.
If scum can kill, they should have killed last night, specifically killed me. Because killing me while you're blocked doesn't matter since you'll be cleared anyway if I die. The only other possibility is that YOU'RE scum. And at this point I'm pretty much banking my game on that not being a thing.
So I don't think the final scum can kill and we're either going to be the final two or we're going to happy ever after.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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Oh right, arsons are a thing. Hmm.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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I guess, kinda, yeah.
I still really don't see why lynching pisskop is on the table.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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so, explain to me this plan then because i don't get it.
we lynch pisskop, we're at 5, Cakez is blocked clearing him if there's a kill. and then we're in mylo between Luna & Gamma?we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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or, alternatively, there's no kill and we have 2 lynches to decide between Cakez, Gamma, & Luna.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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exceptIn post 3238, pieguyn wrote:if a kill happens then Cakez is clear which condemns Luna in 4p.
gamma emerald really definitely totally isn't clear, girl.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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VOTE: no lynchwe're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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i'm really not sure. i mean, i could lynch Cakez I guess, i dont know. I'm pretty even between him and Gamma.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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I'm still not sure why you actually think GE is town.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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I mean, I'm basically just reaching the point where no one is overtly anything to me and i'm suspicious of confident reads. That's my default late-game state.
I'm also approaching the point where I want to lynch my own slot to force you to confirm and then you guide the game the rest of the way, either by confirming and dictating lynches, or by failing to confirm and being lynched yourself.
Or, you know, we lynch me and then you die at night. Which sounds bleak except for the fact that both Luna & Cakez present a clear or, in SirCakez' case, a clear or a guilty. In that scenario, and regardless of their own alignment, the reality of only one scum being left confirms those are both truthful (unless, of course, we're dealing with an ascetic or a ninja final scum. But that calls into questions a fuckton of other stuff that's been happening and I generally just doubt it.). And regardless of if both PR's get clears or if Cakez get a guilty, the final game state ends up being either Luna resolving the CC instantaneously, or Luna & 1 other thus confirmed town deciding between a final CC. Which ends up being pretty much equivilant to what happens if you're left alive and someone else dies. Or you being left alive and no one else dying.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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pisskop?In post 3295, pieguyn wrote:especially when he won't listen to anything I say anyway even if I *was* to confirm myself.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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No, I mean, I'm asking pisskop to speak to that statement.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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In post 3284, SirCakez wrote:It seems pretty obvious to me scum is intentionally nokilling due to fears of being tracked/blocked and then being incriminatedmy problem is that this is a valid point.
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you're missing a few things
1) HEA isn't a win so let's not aim for it please
2) the only viable route to a scum victory here is to mislynchSirCakez or Luna Foxtoday then win a claim/CC situation in 4p the next day.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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I mean, my understanding is that neither the mechanic nor the philosophy that goes with it of "meteor" (an EpicMafia term) doesn't exist on MafiaScum. If this were EM, would could legally (in the games' laws anyway) obligate mafia to eventually kill someone. But I don't think that exists here?we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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If both SirCakez & Luna are alive tonight, scum is going to continue being scared shitless of killing at night, meaning they we won't progress to 4p MYLO, we'll progress to 5p LYLO+1we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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That all sounds about right.
I'm just trying to logic out if lynching in {SirCakez, Luna} might be potentially shooting ourselves in the foot as opposed to lynching in {pisskop, Gamma}.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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lovin' these bah posts with style.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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because i felt sure killing dwlee would end the game, and killing beeboy would end the game, and killing aero would end the game.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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