Mini 1869- camn's revenge GAME OVER!
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The shit you said was painful to read which, interestingly enough you say was actually good quality now“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
"Gin, you are so charismatic it's scary." -nancy-
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Aero, I will not answer questions I have already answered. You may continue to read the thread to find your enlightenment if you wish.“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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Read.......... The thread I fucking said I respected him enough to give him time to prove me wrong. Do you not see the fucking countdown I established?
After that time is up I'm ISOing him and ripping it to shreds and whatever is left will be the result. Not the fucking hard to read Aero“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
"Gin, you are so charismatic it's scary." -nancy-
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Just to be clear, I need reads by the end of this and who is scum and why.“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
"Gin, you are so charismatic it's scary." -nancy-
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I'm not going to V/LA but I'll try to post at least once a day. Most of my focus will be grabbed by playing a "TvM" on my home site. It's a reunion game and we got 18 slots. IM SO EXCITED. I'm not forgetting about this game but it's just a heads up because I get to catch up with some of my favorite forum friends“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
"Gin, you are so charismatic it's scary." -nancy-
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Not going to lie, I had a moment of panic for being able to play with one of the greatest mafia players everIn post 1221, Aristophanes wrote:
Holy Shit, I thought you were Kain for a second! XDIn post 1217, Secret Agent Jin wrote:I am back from VLA and reading up, i am active again!
Actually, it was Not_Mafia's well before it was Kain's. I think Kuroi had it for a bit too!TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Even sporting that KainTaipes avatar“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
"Gin, you are so charismatic it's scary." -nancy-
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I feel like Camn really wants to start writing death scenes and we're all just here like "nope"“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
"Gin, you are so charismatic it's scary." -nancy-
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I don't really have a strong read at the moment. I thought I was successful with Ari but I'm liking his posting now and that scum read is waning. I gotta recoup after it and think where is best to place my vote. Right now it doesn't feel right to just blindly throw the vote around if I'm not 100% confident in it ya know?“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
"Gin, you are so charismatic it's scary." -nancy-
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If I had to describe BTD6/Vax/Prism, it would be people you don't necessarily think are pro-town but you're putting them aside because you think your attention is better elsewhere“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
"Gin, you are so charismatic it's scary." -nancy-
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Aero, regarding myself. I'd look more into the people that town read me in the beginning than the ones scum reading me because I was a scummy as fuck. Then you look at my history and you'll see like an 8 hour block of me reading all of Mastins work on her accounts and wiki pages.
I essentially crash coursed how to be a better player in general, improved 10fold and now I don't think a single person thinks I'm scum anymore because I've been actually able to good post now that I know how to be an effective player getting my points across.“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
"Gin, you are so charismatic it's scary." -nancy-
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This isn't about the game but seriously gotta thank Mastin for her hard work. It's helped me grow immensely and she should feel the love for what she puts into the community to improve the player base as a whole“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
"Gin, you are so charismatic it's scary." -nancy-
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I won't be on till like 5 hours from now but if I could say what I wanted to say now, it'd be against Prism and it's not like I suspect Prism to be flash lynched so my vote is here.
VOTE: Prism“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
"Gin, you are so charismatic it's scary." -nancy-
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hate this postIn post 1280, Vaxkiller wrote:Everyone needs to get out with thier vanity wagons.
Choose fate or mastina“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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Hi! I'm Vax!In post 1280, Vaxkiller wrote:Everyone needs to get out with thier vanity wagons.
Choose fate or mastina
Let me tell you it's best to not pick the best lynch and vote apathetically into the two popular wagons because I don't care in light of actual evidence if someone is scum, I'd rather lynch one and kill the other so I no longer have to deal with them and win the game“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
"Gin, you are so charismatic it's scary." -nancy-
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Well, I didn't call it persay but I had a sneaky suspicion :pIn post 1285, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:CALLED IT“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
"Gin, you are so charismatic it's scary." -nancy-
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You misspelled Prism
“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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Dreal, the fact that you read me as scum makes me wonder if you've been reading the thread. Anyone that disagrees with you is not fucking scum.“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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yeeeeeeeeeeIn post 1374, mastina wrote:Ignoring is something only scum benefit from.“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
"Gin, you are so charismatic it's scary." -nancy-
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Hey Prism, I've ignored all your posts. I think your scum lolz
You see how stupid that sounds?
No seriously I haven't read any of your posts in the last couple pages but your scumzzzz so I'm ignoring you.
LALALALLALALALALALA "I can't hear you!"
*sticks fingers in ears and tongue pointing at you*“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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You don't ignore someone regardless fam. No matter what, it's just stupid play and if you claim to be a vet then you know to do that. That's my problem with you for real.“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
"Gin, you are so charismatic it's scary." -nancy-
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Also no, drunk me is gonna tell you how it is. That lallalala shows my opinion on how silly and stupid you saying ignoring mastin is.“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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In post 1348, mastina wrote:Yet none of them accuse me of having an ego, because all of them know I don't have one.In post 264, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:In post 263, mastina wrote:Fuck your claim of being able to do this and recognize that *I* am the one who actually can. Pine was one of my first, and closest friends, and bitter rivals, and nobody knows how he operates better than I do. You lack the game experience and you lack the personal connection. I have both. That's not arrogance speaking. That's just pure simple fact. I have the most games with Pine of any player. I have the most personal connection to Pine of any player.
Looks like I was rightIn post 244, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I'm thinking its more ego related at this point“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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Can we just get rid of SAJ as a compromise?
Mastin town dies, mastin scum doesn't dies. Simple.
SAJ is lurker slot/fence sitter.
Bad slot is bad.“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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EBWOPIn post 1393, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Can we just get rid of SAJ as a compromise?
Mastin town dies, mastin scum doesn't dies during N1. Simple.
SAJ is lurker slot/fence sitter.
Bad slot is bad.“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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DOn't judge me, you know you're worse than me
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Your not worth my time and energy. Going for the lurker lynch. Just being pragmatic about it is allIn post 1405, Prism wrote:How'd you go from me being scum, and having all of these points against me that you couldn't post, and agreeing with Mastina here that I couldn't be doing this as town, to pushing a lurker lynch?
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My apologizes for earlier confusion. carry onIn post 1404, mastina wrote:
You made that claim early in the game,In post 1388, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:mastin explainpriorto reading my theory stuff.
After you read my theory stuff, and after we had interacted in-thread, can you say you would have made that post?
Because...In post 1270, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Then you look at my history and you'll see like an 8 hour block of me reading all of Mastins work on her accounts and wiki pages. I essentially crash coursed how to be a better player in general, improved 10fold and now I don't think a single person thinks I'm scum anymore because I've been actually able to good post now that I know how to be an effective player getting my points across.
...This certainly suggests otherwise. While I'll link to theorycrafting I've done before, whenever I do so I almost always include the disclaimer that "Your mileage may vary on this", "this is some pretty common sense, I'm not unique in having said it", "some of this stuff is old and obsolete, or was of questionable validity to begin with", and the like. I will say exactly why it's NOT perfect, why it should be taken with grains of salt.In post 1271, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:This isn't about the game but seriously gotta thank Mastin for her hard work. It's helped me grow immensely and she should feel the love for what she puts into the community to improve the player base as a whole
And while I'll brag about my scumgame any ol' day, I don't go bragging about my towngame. My scumgame? Probably in the top ten players on mafiascum. THERE I have an ego, sure, yeah. I'll admit it fully that in terms of being a scumfuck, I have an ego, because I see being scum like being a supervillain. Supervillains are defined as having an ego. So THERE, I will say I am good, because yeah I know I am.
Not so much as town. Nobody knows how much I suck more than I do. I might (MIGHT) be in the top 10% of town players on the site--but if so, only because of how shitty town players across the site are. And I'd still be in the lower percentile. And worth mentioning: we have 19694 members. Yeah, not all of them are active; yeah, that includes alts and hydras. Butstill, top 10% would still mean that there are potentially up to 200 players on our site (by my mental math anyway) who're better than I am. Not the hallmark of a great town player. Not the realm of someone who has an ego.
If I actually had the accuracy rate to back me, I could afford to have an ego: "I'm good, I KNOW I'm good, so it doesn't matter if it looks like arrogance, I know I'm good anyway so I'm probably right even when I'm wrong!". But since I don't? I suck, I know I suck, so it absolutely matters and while I can display confidence when I hold it, I absolutely need to be honest when I do not, because I'm wrong even when I'm right.
And right now, I feel like I'm wrong yet I'm pushing anyway because there's really nothing else you can do. I lack confidence. I have three choices: quit the game and give up. Stay in the background and hope on some unspecified future date that things get better and I gain it back. Or, in spite of knowing I'm probably wrong, push and see if that push gives anything productive.
I like option number three.“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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I don't think you get it sweetie. This player list is of such a caliber that we simply wont catch scum D1 and i've accepted it. A lurker lynch is just a mislynch down the road, I'd rather it be done now instead of later. This also forces scum to pick a kill and let us reap all the benefits of the info. WITHOUT the scum being able to use a lynch as a framing tool if a lynch on an active voice occurred.In post 1409, Prism wrote:Even if you're drunk I'd still imagine lynching the mafia to be the most pragmatic approach of all, so persuading others to join you on voting me might assist you in getting that lynch through.
Also look at the VCA. It isn't going fucking anywhere and we all know that. We are literally like goats just fucking ramming each other in the head going no where.“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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Someone's salty I use their arguments against them. Learn to not insults players and I wont use your own words against you.In post 1408, Prism wrote:
Well, okay.In post 1407, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Your not worth my time and energy. Going for the lurker lynch. Just being pragmatic about it is all
VOTE: Gin N Tonic
Respect every player, regardless of how much they type. I'm sorry, I'm a little fucking heated about it. It's a dick move.“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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Look, I'm going to be real honest, Camn doesn't want us to get personal and I'm not trusting of myself not sober to not take it to far.
I have mad respect for Mastin and took it as an offense of my own when you said you were ignoring her. It's more of a personal thing than it is related to your alignment and I don't want to dabble in it. I'm very protective and blah blah say what you want, it's just been a week with Mastin but the relationship is one of a student and his master and we all know how we feel about those we look up too.
I'm going to come back when i've sobered up and judge you from there.“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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You don't talk much anymoreIn post 1440, Nachomamma8 wrote:Fate, I'm ashamed you resorted to compromising.“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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lost interest in it to be real with you.
I don't know what SAJ has done to provide he's town and I want scum to be forced to kill an active voice instead of quiet ones.
I explained it earlier
P-Edit: YAS BOO“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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Give me your thoughts on my early scum read on SAJ please
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