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I know 0 about Pine or camn but even if I did I'm not playing based off speculation. Scum has a clear advantage in the WIFOM game. I'm sure Pine drafted a subjective allstar, who we'll nail easily after mislynching the other two or three. Speculate if you think it helps but I'm playing this as I would any other game. Chances are, however many times it'd take you to guess the team is about the same number it'd take RNG on average to get the team.
First instinct is that drealm is town based off his reason to not be picked, but I'll doublecheck the meta in a day or two. This isn't really a read question but more out of curiosity:
Why? This is funny because me/Nacho are about to start a game as a hydra but first I don't know if you knew that and second I'm not sure how you came to any conclusion about me/camn or me/Nacho as I've played with neither before. Your game with me was my second ever game; this is my third.drealmerz7 wrote:pine made a huge mistake letting nacho and prism team up I think-
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I question the intent of this post. I didn't give the post link in my quote. You found the original post, where it clearly speculates a possible draft.TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
Did you just say these two were on the same team?In post 55, drealmerz7 wrote:pine made a huge mistake letting nacho and prism team up I think
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I still fail to see how you quote the post, by actually using the button, without seeing the speculative draft immediately above it.
I think I'm going to crush you.Pine wrote:Yeah, good luck with that. There's a reason I'm in this position.
So, Miss* Magic Reads, what do you think so far?
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My first hydra slip, before it's even started a game.In post 128, Reflektor wrote:Votes now count.
VOTE: Real Gin N Tonic
I really like BTD6's #115 and think he's likely to be town. I like drealm's recent posts a lot less because they're noticeably different from Evoker. I don't know how to feel about #126
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I'm still catching up since yesterday and mulling over a few things but I'd love to hear why you think drealm is town, because I've been going back and forth in my mind all of yesterday/today.In post 396, Nachomamma8 wrote:And lastly, drealmer and Mastina are town
As far as me being your #1 pick as scum, that may be true for you, but do you want to see how much Pine knows about me?
You can argue WIFOM all day long here, but two things are on display here: 1. Pine read none of my games 2. Pine's pride clearly took a hit.In post 96, Pine wrote:
Yeah, good luck with that. There's a reason I'm in this position.In post 92, Prism wrote:I take it back, sometimes the WIFOM game is worth playing. If this guy keeps posting at this rate I might get the scumteam without reading a single other person.
So, Miss* Magic Reads, what do you think so far?
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You know, I don't really like Monokuma much at all. The gimmick, while endlessly entertaining, is a pain to read for alignment just becauseall of itis by necessity fabricated. That said, they're voting Gin and Fate, and I can get on board with both of those. I don't think I've read a Cakez post so that's one up in the air.
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It's posts like these, which are so transparently for other people to read and not me, that make the other interactions more clearly legitimate.
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Pretty soon Mastina is going to have to start playing mafia instead of whatever the hell you can call what they're doing.
I couldn't remember why I scumread Gin but remembered having something I thought was compelling. Looking at his ISO I couldn't remember it, and thus moved my vote. Looking back on my own, as in right now, it was what I said in #82. I don't really find it that compelling anymore and think he's far and away the best poster of the past 7-8 pages.In post 1044, Aeronaut wrote:Is there a reason you didn't join onto the bearwagon(tm) after the post that you deemed awful / nacho asking? Because that Gin vote is still from RVSish?
My votes on Nacho and Monokuma were both mostly reaction tests, I didn't really get what I wanted out of either and that's okay. I'm not really sold on either.
At the point of catchup I thought Fate and drealm were both mafia, but now I'm not sure. My first impression of drealm's #1011 and #1018 was that he was bussing somebody, but now after staring at it for awhile longer I'm unsure. That said, drealm's posting has been atrocious all game and I still never got any real explanation as to why anyone townread him. Nacho's #655 was unconvincing to me, I got a town lean from the start but little else since. I've had the opposite experience with a town drealm than what I've had this game.
Fate's entire interaction with Monokuma is a trainwreck. If your name isn't Fate, and you can read the last 4-5 pages and say to yourself, "Yeah Monokuma is definitely mafia, 99% sure" then let me know. If you can't, you'll see my point. This just seems like an awkward attempt to fit some perceived townmeta of himself.
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Phone posting. I see we're getting close to the deadline so it's time to step my game up. I'll be back from work/appointments in about 7 hours and then it's showtime.
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I'm not reading mastina and I'm not going to. I tried and got exactly 0 helpful posts and 0 towntells and wish I had just spent that time on other games or on reading all 902 pages of the Affordable Care Act, because I think it honestly might have been more fun.Vaxkiller wrote:Aristo, Monokumo, and prism on what they think about mastina-
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Congratulations for claiming at L-3 mastina.
Great timing as well with the "What has Prism done?" as a push on me,right after I announced that it would change in approximately 7 hours.
Hop on me for it while you can I suppose.
As far as not reading you goes, I've tried. It was awful. I stopped. The plain, simple truth is that whatever wisdom you're spewing out, if any, in these 1000+ word text blocks, are being lost by your own failure to trim them down. I'm down to play mafia. 9/10ths of your post aren't playing mafia. It's like readingWar and Peace, except without the literary value. I'm not an alt, I've never even heard of you before this game. To be blunt, I don't care about you or others' opinion of you or your opinion of yourself. I know when I spend my time reading 1000+ words of yours, I can get 5-6x the benefit out of using thatsame amount of timeon doing a reread of someone else.
You want me to listen to you instead of focusing on reading other people? Sure, I can do that, but you've got to make it worth my while. Right now it's not even close to worth it, because I can just ignore you and solve the game without you.
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All of that and you still are managing to misvote all on your own because of your own hyperinflated ego. And you wonder why I refuse to read it.In post 1278, mastina wrote:For objective facts which may or may not be relevant, you can also add in:
-I have more game history with Pine than any other player here.
-I have significant game history with Nacho.
-I have quite a bit of game history with many other players in this game.
-I am considered by many players to be a very significant player on mafiascum. People think I'm good. People think it so much that they have a higher expectation of me than I am realistically able to deliver.
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@Fate:Vote is for a combo thing but the biggest reasons are 1) Monokuma vote/overconfidence is awful and overplayed 2) Interactions with Nacho are awkward as hell, ex. #945. It's complete bullshit, you weren't reaction testing, you saw better chances by not pushing him. I really encourage someone to read this and try to take this account of events seriously.
Having now glanced over your posts since, I'm definitely keeping this.
Shit like this isawful:
and is a trademark scum post.Fate wrote:I'm a much better lynch than mastina for anyone who wants to switch and make somethign happen before deadline
You can't tell me that you can read this and honestly think to yourself "Yeah, I think Fate really wants to get lynched over mastina here. He really believes it's better." Maybe mastina will buy it but god knows nobody else should.
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Have you considered, for evenmastina wrote:The point I'm getting at here is that every player in the game has said they are reading my posts and trying to do something with them.
Every player, except Prism.
And it doesn't even begin to factor in the subjectivity of my claim to be a very important part of the game.
The simple fact is, Prism is ignoring me, and is either an alt or someone who has mastered the old perception of me that veteran players used to take, to ignore me if for no other reason on policy alone, because surely the words of mastina, the wallposter mastina, the infamous mastina, is someone not worth paying attention to, who says a lot of meaningless shit and nothing of importance. That's the attitude Prism is displaying and that's the attitude old veterans would display to me, but it's NOT the attitude a new player displays to me.one second, that the reason I and apparently a lot of veteran players do this is because there are real, tangible benefits to doing so?
Ifeastoff of players like you as mafia. I would be eating you fucking alive if I was scum and encouraging you all the way, because at the end of your tunnel made of 70,000 words I got so little benefit I earnestly feel I would have been better off with nothing. This is not a feeling you want a town player to have about your posts,ever. My posts were not simply to put you down for the sake of it, they were to outline a clear goalpost that would lead to me being more willing to work with you: make whatever posts you make at least somewhat relevant or worth reading, and have them be useful, and don't make me dig through 10 paragraphs to findthesingle useful sentence. You have categorically failed in this the entire way, and what is the response you've gotten as a result?
The evaluation that your posts do more harm than good for me. When someone who loves and adores mafia, someone who'snot even lazy in their play(and since you respect Nacho's opinion so much, you can have him verify that one), actually makes the conscious decision that they will get more benefit out of rereading an ISO of Monokuma or Gin N Tonic for the third time that week instead of reading your posts for a second or even first time, the problem is with you.
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In post 1318, mastina wrote:That leaves the pool at: Jin/BTD6/Prism. Jin is a lurker, and people resist lurker lynches.
BTD6 is a lurker, and people resist lurker lynches.
Prism was therefore the one I chose to pressure.
And believe me this wasn't an easy choice; I might change my mind yet. But it was a decision I needed to make.
Holy cognitive dissonance.mastina wrote:Then you get into what Prism has done.
What has Prism done?
Can you answer me even that much?
Prism may have a recent V/LA of some sort in effect, would have to check for how long and starting when and when it ends, but the fact is, prior to that point, what did Prism do? Prism had a strong early start, sure, pushing Gin-N-Tonic. But other than that, they've done basically nothing. And even their Gin push was weaker than some of the other members of the wagon there.
I know, I could be shooting myself in the foot for reneging my early townread there. But if I don't see Prism produce something worthwhile, I'm not going to be so sorrowful about it.
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Account slip.In post 1330, Reflektor wrote:
Great, answer it Monokuma.In post 1328, Monokuma wrote:
No no no, you don't get to do that! You're playing with Monokuma, not Nahdia. The whole is more than the sum of its parts, buster!In post 1316, Prism wrote:Monokuma, specifically Nahdia, read on me. Now. Go.-
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I actually agree (I'm working on rereading Cakez now so that might change with additional context) and the unvote on me was unexpected. Fate doesn't seem like the type of player to think he's bitten off too much to chew as scum and back off, which makes it a weird post to evaluate.In post 1332, drealmerz7 wrote:woah, fate, that post was kind of towny
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I don't care if you're 3/3 and writing down the Holy Bible itself. Its value is subjective, becauseam the one that has to read evaluate it, and it's worthless to me if I have to wade through an ocean of mud to get toIyour singular view of the gamewhen I can just build a bridge, drive over the ocean, and get basically everything I need just the same.
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mastina I'm just saying I lied and have read literally every post, every word, and was just nudging you towards a goalpost that would be more helpful to me, and have made several allusions to the fact that I have done this.
The amount of use I've gotten out of them, in particular the last post towards me, #1357, and even the last like 7, is literally 0 other than the claim. Not even just figuratively. I actually regret reading them. Even now, I was already planning on putting in a ton of effort today, and now I'm spending it on this circus. This is really the last post you're getting out of me, if you address a question to me later you'll get a response but I feel as though literally none of this is helpful to me in any way. It feels like I'm talking to a wall while simultaneously trying to count the grains of sand on a beach, and I'm just getting frustrated in the process. I have a lot more to say, about how you're being blind to X Y and Z, but it would help nothing, so I'm stopping here.
This is a more than a bit insulting, so I'll apologize for that, but it's earnestly how I feel, and how I feel I can best contribute to winning. I'm not going to continue to spend time that I continue perceive as entirely wasted. I'm going to refocus and contribute to winning the game the best way that I can-and that involves nowactuallyignoring you completely.-
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Except for when I've clearly outlined exactly why this is beneficial.In post 1375, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
yeeeeeeeeeeIn post 1374, mastina wrote:Ignoring is something only scum benefit from.
This would make sense if I ever made any comment as to mastina's alignment at all, except I never did (Hint: I've always assumed they were town) until they claimed where I've made it clear I believe them.In post 1376, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Hey Prism, I've ignored all your posts. I think your scum lolz
You see how stupid that sounds?
No seriously I haven't read any of your posts in the last couple pages but your scumzzzz so I'm ignoring you.
LALALALLALALALALALA "I can't hear you!"
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I think people that aren't named mastina really need to look at what I'm actually saying here. I'm not saying I'm ignoring mastina out of laziness or that it's impossible to glean alignment from their posts. It's that whatever effort is expended doing that, I can likely get 2x-5x the payout from diverting it elsewhere. It's fundamentallynot worth it.-
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In comparison to other players, correct, I'm currently working on rereading Nacho and Vax. Offensive? Yes, but extremely pragmatic.In post 1401, Aristophanes wrote:So, just not worth reading is your verdict then?-
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How'd you go from me being scum, and having all of these points against me that you couldn't post, and agreeing with Mastina here that I couldn't be doing this as town, to pushing a lurker lynch?