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Post Post #63 (isolation #0) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:18 pm

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Crusader gets holy water provisional item just from being in the party, and holy water is used to nullify and negative effects of the decorative urn.

So whose the crusader? Don't claim role, just flavour.
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Post Post #65 (isolation #1) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:24 pm

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:oops:

So I guess Alisae isn't crusader, thank fuck for that, she'd break the urn in two. :lol:
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Post Post #69 (isolation #2) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:28 pm

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Almost all curios in flavour have a high chance of fucking you over unless you play the odds to be in your favour.

I guess this might fall through because Holy Water is a one use item, actually, and because we're in the ruins, most curios are interacted with Holy Water.

BTW, this will probably affect how close we are to 'Afflicted'/'Virtuous' at the bottom of our role PMs.
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Post Post #72 (isolation #3) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:30 pm

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Considering that the Urn can resolve before a lynch, and not the other way around, it makes sense to me that resolving the Urn is the first priority of day 1 so that we have more time to sift through all of the information presented to us post-Urn. This includes whatever information the Urn gave us.

Do you disagree?
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Post Post #74 (isolation #4) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:32 pm

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Actually, maybe I misunderstood Clumsy's post.

Alisae this is the game you can break out of your anti-town spamminess!
I believe in you!
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Post Post #76 (isolation #5) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:32 pm

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Post Post #77 (isolation #6) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:33 pm

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Post Post #83 (isolation #7) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:37 pm

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I'd really rather Crusader take care of the Urn.
Considering it's a flavour claim that could very easily be a scum's fakeclaim I don't see any negative effect from the claim, and the strategic purpose is worth a shot.
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Post Post #86 (isolation #8) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:53 pm

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Every post after this post that doesn't involve either 'I am crusader and will interact with the curio' or 'I'm not crusader' is a scumclaim.
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Post Post #88 (isolation #9) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:08 am

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VOTE: Wraith
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Post Post #93 (isolation #10) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:42 am

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In post 91, Wraith wrote:I'm literally L-1 on page 4 rofl
Be less obvscum maybe.
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Post Post #101 (isolation #11) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:45 am

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I don't like this wagon.
UNVOTE:
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Post Post #103 (isolation #12) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:03 am

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I don't know and I don't really wanna talk about it.
We need other players to post.
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Post Post #108 (isolation #13) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:21 am

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Alisae rn:
'Hey guys what's pressure? How do I play the mafiaz? Also, here's a triplepost.
/me tacklehugs HS'
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Post Post #110 (isolation #14) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:37 am

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Nothing at all. That's why I didn't like the wagon and rescinded my vote.
Why do you ask?
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Post Post #114 (isolation #15) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:43 am

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Hey now, 'what did you get out of it' and 'what were you searching for' are two entirely different questions and don't try to spin it like that's not the case.
I was searching for a reaction. I wanted to see how Wraith reacted while being faced with baseless conjecture, and I got exactly that ( )
Unfortunately, I didn't really find anything alignment indicative in it, so I didn't find anything.

Alisae, think more plz. <3
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Post Post #115 (isolation #16) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:45 am

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I shut down the pressure wagon because Wraith very obviously knew it was a pressure wagon based on nothing, so it served no purpose.

Furthermore, the hydra and Wraith were getting into a debate about semantics which is never good for town. So I stopped it.
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Post Post #118 (isolation #17) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:48 am

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Well, that's what I was trying to do.
Unless you want to pretend that a baseless page 4 L-1 wagon is actually going to go anywhere helpful for town, in which case, be my guest!
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Post Post #124 (isolation #18) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:16 am

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Crusader gives the holy water provisional item, which nullifies the urn.

lmao @pine
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Post Post #126 (isolation #19) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:20 am

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I'm running through again when dlc drops as well, can't wait for radiant mode.
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Post Post #131 (isolation #20) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:47 am

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I'm actually fine with Varsoon taking the curio if we can't get a sader to do it. He looks like he knows what he's doing.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #21) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:51 am

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Wraith, can you supply a read on me?
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Post Post #138 (isolation #22) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:56 am

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Why do you want Wraith to explain this moot point from pages ago when he's obvtown?

Arwen is FA, right?
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Post Post #153 (isolation #23) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:27 am

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I get the feeling that ancestor quote is directed at me...
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Post Post #154 (isolation #24) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:27 am

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Maybe AA actually.
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Post Post #167 (isolation #25) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:21 am

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In post 157, Varsoon wrote:Let's resolve this Curio business. By my count, I'm at L-1 to Investigate. Maybe we should write that as I-1?
I-1 looks too much like l-1
I suggest C-1/c-1

Curio: Varsoon

Changed my mind on the sader, I wanna see what's in this box
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Post Post #170 (isolation #26) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:24 am

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AA got ansty at Wraith for no reason, that's it.
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Post Post #174 (isolation #27) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:31 am

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Changed my mind. Please read.
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Post Post #180 (isolation #28) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:34 am

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@AA Was curious to see what was in the box.

VARSOON gained the quirk DEVIANT TASTES
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Post Post #184 (isolation #29) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:39 am

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HE DIDN'T JUST

@Clumsy
I'd love to hear why you don't like me.
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Post Post #188 (isolation #30) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:01 am

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Varsoon, are you afflicted?
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Post Post #195 (isolation #31) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:12 am

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Clumsy, it fits with flavour.

Who am I trying to blend in with?
Scumpings.
Also not really liking HS so far.
This is only page 8 though.
Spot the contradiction.
I know my play has been contradictory so far, but I have my reasons, and I'm not sure clumsy does.
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Post Post #197 (isolation #32) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:16 am

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Yes, the only tool on my scumhunting toolbox is OMGUS.
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Post Post #198 (isolation #33) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:17 am

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Who am I trying to blend in with?
Specifically, who is 'active town' and how do my actions correlate with theirs?
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Post Post #201 (isolation #34) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:22 am

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Yeah, I get you. That's far more satisfactory.
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Post Post #214 (isolation #35) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:33 am

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In post 209, Prism wrote:For all the focus on searching and getting reactions, they sure weren't getting anything outside of Wraith either despite the plethora of interactions that were going on.
oh yeah, except cloudTown, alz kinda town and clumsy scum->null

unlike what clumsy has cited, I can't understand how you have issue with 114, elaborate please?
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Post Post #216 (isolation #36) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:42 am

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oh wow shoot me im an idiot
im going to sleep i obviously need it
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Post Post #257 (isolation #37) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:30 am

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AA probs town. Keyser, can you link me your original account? I could search it but w/e.
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Post Post #297 (isolation #38) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:51 pm

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In post 277, Arwen and Aragorn wrote:Image

VOTE: Human Sequencer

Explain/describe to me the full
development
of your read of Wraith.

- Aragorn
i dont actually have a read on wraith and havent all game tbh

aa why are you so hard to sort?
you're probably town but something's niggling me about you
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Post Post #301 (isolation #39) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:58 pm

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i like you kuror0
that's a great analysis of the wraith wagon
keep it up for a free townread

VOTE: Alisae
omgus is the only tool in my scumhunting toolbox
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Post Post #303 (isolation #40) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:00 pm

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that's actually horrible from alisae
was that post (299) a joke? yes or no
if no i'm gonna rail it in why
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Post Post #305 (isolation #41) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:04 pm

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because i don't see how you could logically reach that conclusion without you being in paranoia-mode
nice avi btw
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Post Post #307 (isolation #42) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:09 pm

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In post 78, Alisae wrote:
In post 74, Human Sequencer wrote:Alisae this is the game you can break out of your anti-town spamminess!
I believe in you!
You're probably town for wanting me break this habit.
Yet again, you're someone who can fake your towngame as scum very easily.
In post 78, Alisae wrote:
In post 74, Human Sequencer wrote:Alisae this is the game you can break out of your anti-town spamminess!
I believe in you!
You're probably town for wanting me break this habit.
Yet again, you're someone who can fake your towngame as scum very easily.
In post 79, Alisae wrote:BTW I'm not judging that off of any scum games, I know you don't have any completed on site, I just figured you are the person who can do that shit.
these seem to imply that you believe i am a strong player (i disagree but that's besides the point)

how would i, as either alignment, make such a blatantly contradictory post unless one of them was a knowing lie?
like surely the logical step after seeing those two posts after each other (''WRAITH IS OBVSXUM'' and ''I dont actually have a read on wraith'') would be 'oh, he's fucking w/ is in the first post'
i don't think you'd legitimately reach the conclusion you did unless you were making shit up on surface level (scum) or not applying yourself at all (town)

gun to my head read is null
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Post Post #308 (isolation #43) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:10 pm

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In post 306, Alisae wrote:You voted him
told him to not be obvscum
unvoted him
and now you can't sort him?

Gun to your head.
this makes me think you might have been making shit up on the surface level btw
do you not see the problem in your logic upon reanalyzing it?
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Post Post #310 (isolation #44) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:15 pm

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In post 111, Alisae wrote:So you went from "Wraith is obvscum" to "I don't like the wagon."
That makes perfect sense!
it checks out actually, you never displayed knowledge that it was a pressure vote
you are probably town but you need to apply yourself more, especially after kuror0 literally just (correctly) summed up the wraith wagon as a bunch of pressure votes that amounted to fucking nothing
try reading more and posting less <3

ur still cute tho
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Post Post #311 (isolation #45) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:16 pm

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actually that's unfair you're doing a great job at that this game :V
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Post Post #313 (isolation #46) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:23 pm

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you aren't incorrect c:

no read whatsoever, i've pretty much skipped over all their posts, not focusing on the slot atm
do you have any posts in particular you think i should take a look at?
are you reading town/scum and why? convince me
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Post Post #315 (isolation #47) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:27 pm

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btw wraith is null for different reasons, i find all of his posts so far nai despite me trying to actively read him whereas cakez is just on the backburner atm
PEDIT: eeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
maybe when i get home
my reads are better when people talk to me about them tho
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Post Post #326 (isolation #48) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:13 am

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In post 320, Arwen and Aragorn wrote:
In post 297, Human Sequencer wrote:i dont actually have a read on wraith and havent all game tbh
I didn't like the way you shut down Arwen's pressure on Wraith. Even if Arwen didn't have the 'right' reason to scum-read him pressure would have made Wraith react (then we could look at the tone of his defense/OMGUS/deflection). I personally came away with a town-lean of Wraith. This wouldn't have happened without Arwen getting under his skin and forcing a natural reaction (which is more powerful than a naked RVS pressure vote). If your position on him his 'gun-to-the-head-null-read' I await to see your pro-active sorting of his slot.

- Aragorn
this is really stupid
i shut down arwen's pressure because it was stupid, wraith clearly didn't want to answer arwen's question or felt he already satisfactorily had, but arwen was still pushing it for ???
i stopped it because that kinda shit ends up with grudges and hostility that damages everybody's interest and enjoyment in the game, and promotes town apathy.
anything wraith reacted with would be nai because he was blatantly AWARE he was being pressured solely for being pressured. in his own words, we got all we could out of it.

i get that you townlean wraith. maybe you should get that i dont. i'm not going to force reads because that gives me shit reads which help nobody and scum can use to pin me later. i understand that you probably saw an emotional response and decided to townlean him because of it. i dont. i haven't found anything in wraith's posts to be alignment indicative. i'm still pro-actively sorting the slot. this is not how you engage with me on my reads. if you took a step back and instead try to engage with me on why i nullread wraith, perhaps bringing up evidence and posts which you townlean with a proper argument behind it, you'd see if my logic is valid or not. not only that, you'd perhaps glance at whether my logic is scum-motivated or not. as it stands, you're either scum being lazy and inventing a scumread that doesn't make sense, or town being lazy and not mentally engaging with the game.
you can replace 'arwen' with 'hs' for the latter half of your post, and it still makes sense, because I WAS PRESSURING WRAITH TOO
it wasn't only arwen who got under his skin, it was us combined.

i still don't think you're scum, i'm just really petty right now for some reason

i'm focusing on this push on me because 1. its stupid and 2. omgus is the only tool in my scumhunting toolbox
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Post Post #327 (isolation #49) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:15 am

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i still don't think you're scum, i'm just really petty right now for some reason
probably better worded as 'i'm unsure what your alignment is, i'm just...'
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Post Post #329 (isolation #50) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:22 am

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arwen, its ok, don't worry too much, just catch up for now.
In post 322, Arwen and Aragorn wrote:
In post 298, kuror0 wrote:Everybody knew it was a trash/pressure wagon but almost everyone was piling votes and hoping something good would happen out of it? Pointless to pile votes when no one is asking question to the pressured slot imo.
In post 301, Human Sequencer wrote:that's a great analysis of the wraith wagon
keep it up for a free townread
@HS - if you felt the Wraith wagon was an
obvious
"pointless" 'pressure' wagon, why are you giving kuror0 an easy town read/town points? Why could not a scum player state the 'obvious' too as part of their retrospective catch-up?

- Aragorn
this is also stupid.
i did a quick meta dive on kuror0 to check out how deep the like to engage the game as both alignments. hint hint-- this is why i asked for a link to your main.
as a preliminary read, something that pinged me for town was kuror's honest analysis of the wraith wagon. it's also worth mentioning that nobody else had really pointed this out except for maybe me (i don't remember) and wraith-- making his analysis somewhat fresh. he says that -everybody know it was a trash/pressure wagon- which proves that he effectively got into the minds of everybody on the wagon (i think he's likely right) despite the fact that nobody really stated it. this is an awareness of the gamestate and intention to gamesolve i find more likely to come from town than scum in this particular instance, although it could just be good scumplay from him.
i think it's more likely to be townie dropping whatever thoughts they have on their mind than scum pretending to do the same.
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Post Post #330 (isolation #51) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:23 am

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townpings from prism
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Post Post #331 (isolation #52) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:27 am

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disclaimer, i'm not calling you stupid, aragorn, i'm calling your argument stupid, please don't take it personally
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Post Post #336 (isolation #53) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:38 am

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smart people do stupid things all the time, just look at how often world class chess players blunder

i thank you for using leverage on wraith to propel the game forward, that's partly what I was doing with my stupid push.
but i don't think your insistence on bringing the same 'joke' point up was leading to anything good. it served its purpose early, yet you kept bringing it back even when the game was in full swing when wraith wasn't interested in answering it and it just frustrated him further past the point of 'ok i can read this emotional reaction' and into the line of 'ok this is just straight up frustrating' for wraith.

i think the emotional state of town and willingness of town to participate isn't considered enough sometimes. perhaps i was overthinking it.

it's weird you ask me to explain a substantial read on the slot when i've said probably three times now that i nullread the slot
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Post Post #338 (isolation #54) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:42 am

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ya
they want you to stop questioning
because you were frustrating them
because you kept bringing up the joke post

its almost like wraith wants to enjoy playing mafia and you pushing them in such a way will make them retort unfavourably REGARDLESS OF THEIR ALIGNMENT
now remember how i nullread them
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Post Post #392 (isolation #55) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:48 am

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In post 391, Alisae wrote:Keyser what are you trying to accomplish right now?
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Post Post #393 (isolation #56) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:49 am

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intentionally ignoring this game for now (it's 0749 and i had other games to attend to) but i saw that and it needs to be echoed
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Post Post #398 (isolation #57) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:02 am

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@arwen
i'm aware of your questions and i would love to interact with you but your direct question is partly why i said 'intentionally', with thread climate like this i can't help but glaze
its also literally 0758 rn and i work at 1400, i really can't afford to dedicate the time right now so anything you get will be 'catchup' followed by 'halfhearted reads that will probably get me scumread and are 80% incorrect and intellectually lazy'
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Post Post #453 (isolation #58) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:03 am

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Aragorn, remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

I'm putting this here to make sure I don't procrastinate myself out of engaging with this game tonight.
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Post Post #465 (isolation #59) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:15 am

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In post 339, Arwen and Aragorn wrote:
In post 338, Human Sequencer wrote:ya
they want you to stop questioning
because you were frustrating them
because you kept bringing up the joke post

its almost like wraith wants to enjoy playing mafia and you pushing them in such a way will make them retort unfavourably REGARDLESS OF THEIR ALIGNMENT
now remember how i nullread them
ya
I don't want them to enjoy playing mafia if their mafia.

I want to win the game its as simple as that.
this is the post that sent me off this game. i can't understand this mentality and i find it poisonous, but i dont want to talk about it because it'll shit up the thread.
If you have a null read on them why aren't you doing anything to sort them?
because they hadn't even really been around, and i wanted to see how they interacted with other slots doing other things, not just me being an edjit.
do you have any scumread?

#Arwen
at the moment, no. i don't have any scumreads.


not liking this to be honest. this read doesn't feel genuine, i feel like a townie would have just a little bit more reasoning behind this kind of read presented in this kind of way. it's too obvious to say 'oh gung ho towny acting town', and i feel like it could have easily been fabricated.
In post 354, Arwen and Aragorn wrote:[unimportant people]
Human Sequencer
[some other unimportant person]

I want your reads. I will give you mine in exchange - lets have some interactions going on

#Arwen
1. kuror0 - town
2. SirCakez - ?
3. Clumsy - town
4. Varsoon - town
6. Prism - town
7. SlySly - ?
8. Arwen and Aragorn - difficult to read, kinda town*
9. Pine - post moar actually forgot you were in the game
10. Alisae - town
11. Vifam - very light town
12. Wraith - ?
13. Lycanfire - post moar
*subject to change

there's your preliminary reads, strongest ones are alisae and prism probably.
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Post Post #479 (isolation #60) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:05 am

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SirCakez, what do you think about Varsoon claiming to have a role related reason to get the curio, and then rolling virtuous (which is very unlikely in flavour)?
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Post Post #482 (isolation #61) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:25 am

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If you responded badly there, I was going to hammer.
As it stands I'm not quite convinced, but you're acting quite suspicious.
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Post Post #483 (isolation #62) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:26 am

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Cakez being so upfront about how little he knows about flavour is offputting. He made a similar post at the start of the game and it feels like he could be setting himself up for some kind of derpclear.
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Post Post #485 (isolation #63) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:28 am

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I'm gonna guess that the scumteam has a courtier which can choose to afflict somebody overnight. If that's the case, this is probably what cakes was going for.

Cakez, read on Vifam?
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Post Post #487 (isolation #64) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:30 am

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What earlygame thing with the curio?
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Post Post #490 (isolation #65) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:59 am

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Cakez, does the wagon you've accrued frustrate you?
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Post Post #492 (isolation #66) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:35 am

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I feel like cakez is town.
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Post Post #493 (isolation #67) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:36 am

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Probably.

VOTE: Pine
Post moar.
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Post Post #495 (isolation #68) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:43 am

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Can't help you there yet, sorry.
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Post Post #499 (isolation #69) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:43 am

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'ok'
i did see that last time i just forgot to respond, feel free to interact w/ me don't take it the wrong way i wasn't trying to brush you off :dead:

strong analysis of the wraith wagon coming in, could easily be faked i know
This is weak. About Wraith: His answer to the wagon is just normal I think anyone with that kind of wagon at page 4 could react the same way which I felt was like "this is stupid" more than being defensive. And his "I was just messing around" you address is perfectly normal because when I was reading it was obvious the clumsy joke and the "so voting varsoon is now a towntell" (or something like that) was also an obvious satiric question to the one who said vifam opening was townie.
i feel like kuror is sticking his neck out here with little scum motivation to do so. him responding to this so far later from when it happens makes me feel like it's something he legitimately thought was important, instead of something he's fabricating on the spot. scum having to make an opening post has far better things to comment on, i think.
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Post Post #500 (isolation #70) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:49 am

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also i thought so at first re:cakez frustration but i did an iso and you can kinda sense it in the way he posts, plus his responses to my questions check out 100%
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Post Post #537 (isolation #71) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:54 am

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level w/ me here prism
are you scum?

you are correct in that my wraith vote looks like obvious pressure, but do you not think it's possible alisae simply missed it? i highly doubt that isn't the case, it checks out with the rest of her posting before that (never and reads very genuine. she only figured it out when she put more thought in-- it was staring her right in the face, she just missed it first time around. regardless of alignment, alisae didn't know my vote was a pressure vote.

beyond that, you calling out 'WHY WOULD I PUSH ON PINE LOL HE'S A STRONG PLAYER LOL' from really light suspicion at your pine vote is pinging me.

you are correct in that 'seems like you know pine is town' comment was intellectually lazy, but you seem to have responded inappropriately hostile towards it, which is pinging me.


on a reread with this in mind you're probably still town, the whole thing looks much better when you specify 'i was just poking the bear to get him to post more' instead of 'why would scum poke at such a good player?'
actually idk, this could easily be scum changing the intention behind their earlier posts, because that really does look like what you're going for in 506

varsoon, whilst i agree that nothing recent from cakez has really been towny, it does give a new perspective on the rest of his posts. i recommend taking another look, especially at how well his story checks out.
In post 532, Alisae wrote:I think that I'm a cute and fuzzy kitten :P
:!:
In post 535, Alisae wrote:
In post 533, Andrius wrote:
In post 524, Alisae wrote:Dunno about Andy tho.
Seems kinda mean.
Image
What is your name?
What is your quest?
What is your favorite color?
What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
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Post Post #561 (isolation #72) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:53 am

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why are you still so aggressively defending yourself from me who ended up unsure on your slot anyway lmao

doesn't really seem worth getting so worked up over, wonder if its faked
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Post Post #566 (isolation #73) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:28 am

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holy shit prism calm the fuck down
i don't want to fight with you,
please don't pick one

see, i can use italics to be snarky too.

i didn't want a response there, i was talking to myself and thinking out loud.

i didn't care about what you thought about alisae's play, i'm not trying to sort alisae i'm trying to sort you. you scumreading alisae for something does not magically free you from that particular scumread, and i'm curious as to why you think it does.

i didn't say 'oh you're so irritated this makes you scum', i didn't jump to 'oh prism is scum', i considered the possibility because your response left me kinda speechless and confused.

i know i have atrocious play (i'm very bad at mafia), but your atrocious behaviour is perhaps worse. talk to me like i'm a human, please? kthx
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Post Post #577 (isolation #74) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:56 am

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Feeling a lot better now. Looking forward to this game, it looks like Vifam, Prism and Varsoon are bringing a level of play I've seen but am not quite used to actually doing.

Prism, after restating yourself, I recognize I was incorrect to assume you were attacking me.
Keep in mind I didn't really take much personal offense to anything you said, I was just getting annoyed at all the negativity that happens in Mafia so much for some reason.

I can also understand how you took my post as a question.
This is more putting words in my mouth. Where did I say it freed me from it? I never said it, and even provided an independent response to it.
See, again, because my original post was scumreading you, I assumed you were mentioning Alisae's similar play as a sort of defense to yourself.

I agree with everything in your last paragraph (567), and it's refreshing to see somebody else so open to that perspective. I'm used to assuming people aren't.

I'd like to reach an understanding here, and I'd like to do it with fresh words because everything on page 23 is a mess. My perspective on you is irrelevant now, so to talk about Alisae.
-I've been in quite a few games with Alisae recently
-I have a lot of difficulty reading Alisae
-Alisae is always lynchbait
I've chosen to waive sorting the slot until later because of point 2 and 3. If I see anything that pings me either way, they'll become a focused slot for me. If you want to point anything in particular you think might ping me, feel free.
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Post Post #616 (isolation #75) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:34 am

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Perhaps Keyzer can take the helm in his main?
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Post Post #653 (isolation #76) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:14 am

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Cakez still a bad wagon that will probably flip town.
Varsoon, give me slots that aren't cakez to look into.

I'm also for the deadline extension due to lack of input from a few slots.
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Post Post #654 (isolation #77) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:14 am

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Might actually look into alisae as difficult as that is.
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Post Post #655 (isolation #78) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:16 am

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Also, Andrius, I'm waiting for radiant to drop before I play through again, any news on when it comes out?
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Post Post #658 (isolation #79) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:50 am

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I'm ok taking your word on Alisae.

Very interested in a case on me, because I doubt a Varsoon wagon will go anywhere except a Varsoon lynch, which I don't think is very helpful nor likely atm.
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Post Post #664 (isolation #80) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:51 am

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I get where your coming from, don't really agree. Pine's re-entry has been towny to me (particularly the Alisae comment) and I haven't done much to look at what else his slot has done this game. Have any specific posts you think I should look at?
I'll be looking into Keyzer/AA, btw.
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Post Post #667 (isolation #81) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:02 am

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Varsoon, do a quick ISO of Pine in another game I'm also in with him. It shouldn't be too hard to find, I'm only in three games right now.
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Post Post #674 (isolation #82) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:51 pm

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In post 671, Varsoon wrote:
In post 667, Human Sequencer wrote:Varsoon, do a quick ISO of Pine in another game I'm also in with him. It shouldn't be too hard to find, I'm only in three games right now.
Why?
Is this level of engagement NAI for him?
And even level of engagement aside, the means of engagement is what I'm taking major fault with here.
Moreso that this particular bout of it is NAI.
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Post Post #687 (isolation #83) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:42 am

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I have missed 3-4 pages of the game since I lost the plot attacking Varsoon (who I thought was trying to push a policy lynch on Frozen Angel and discrediting our contributions) - I have since stepped down from that stance. I think he shares the same frustrations as I do at the state of the game, and that effected our reads/retaliation on eachother).
You are correct.
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Post Post #695 (isolation #84) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:05 am

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ya what keyser said
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Post Post #709 (isolation #85) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:38 am

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Maybe try advertising it in replacements thread?
I could go for slysly, they're habitually like this and in my experience it doesn't get better.
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Post Post #727 (isolation #86) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:51 pm

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Not liking everybody jumping on Alisae tbh. Meta-dive, willya? Especially large normal 200, you'll also see there she's managed to get her shit together end-game.

Varsoon, why bother mentioning you're ok hammering Ali when your vote is on what is for all intents and purposes a vanity wagon? Wouldn't your vote be of more use on Ali if you really believe what you just wrote?

Furthermore, your vote on Pine earlier was justified by 'let's make pine post moar'.
Pine has responded saying he doesn't really wanna make more content, much to our chagrin. So what purpose does your vote still hold there?

Your post is lacking the vote it needs to read as genuine.

You seem ready to hammer a lot of slots, but not willing to commit early. Why is that?
Especially Re:My virtuous claim. Any idiot doubtcasting that needs to think long and hard about why someone would claim how I did.
It's pretty obvious to me here you're saying you're trying to bait the nightkill. If I'm not right, please explain why you claimed to me as if I were an idiot.
I don't buy a player of your skill level would willingly out this at this stage in this manner. I do think a player of your skill level would pretend that they were doing this as scum.

VOTE: Varsoon
I had you as town, but 726 has enough questionable content for me to plug you as scum.
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Post Post #728 (isolation #87) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:52 pm

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@andrius
SpyreX is absolutely perfect for Leper! You really know how to pick them. I'm curious as to any spectacular tales you may have of your game.
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Post Post #736 (isolation #88) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:22 am

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No, I refuse to just go, "Oh this player just sucks early, they should be given a free pass for their trash play in every game lol cus sometimes they pull it together." No. Fuck that. Trial by fire. I'm not going to lower my critical lens simply because a player sucks. If a player plays poorly, their poor play should not be positively reinforced. You're not doing Alisae any good by refusing to challenge him as a player.
I understand what you mean, and I agree with most of what you say here. But in the end, I'd rather lynch scum over bad players. If that's impossible, I'd rather lynch a player who is actively damaging the gamestate and will do that continuously. I don't think Alisae is that kind of player, really. At the very least, they're making themselves very easy to read.

The rest of that post is just one hell of a backpedal tbh. Note I never really wanted to lynch Pine, just parked my vote there to prod him into posting more.
Good point on how your stance actually changed from the original vote. I missed that tbh.

On the other hand you're reading fake as fuck and if Cakez flips town I'm very confident in this lynch (Varsoon). If not, idk really.

I will admit that Cakez' posts are transparently scummy on a surface level, but I think the mentaliry behind them is town, really.

Cakez, why do you have a particular interest in SlySly? I'm very interested as to why.
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Post Post #737 (isolation #89) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:25 am

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Or rather, his results.
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Post Post #739 (isolation #90) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:44 am

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Yeah ok, fine lynching varsoon.

You talk like somebody describing somebody else's actions, thoughts and motivations, not somebody explaining their own.
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Post Post #780 (isolation #91) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:40 am

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Keyser, make me do things plz
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Post Post #782 (isolation #92) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:35 am

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actually yeah btw, what's your experience w/ me, sly? you claim you have some, but we only have one game where i remain unflipped
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Post Post #784 (isolation #93) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:30 am

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you have incredible taste in scummers i must say
you also have a knack for matching them up with classes that suit them, i would have never connected arthur with houndie but it fits well when you think about it
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Post Post #840 (isolation #94) » Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:00 am

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In post 823, SlySly wrote:
In post 782, Human Sequencer wrote:actually yeah btw, what's your experience w/ me, sly? you claim you have some, but we only have one game where i remain unflipped
I guess it's just that one game, I thought there was another. Game overload. In our other mutual game, I'm in the dead thread now. I know how you'll flip there,
but I can't reference that meta yet
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Don't talk about that game, it makes me want to kill myself.

Wew, hi zefiend.
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Post Post #842 (isolation #95) » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:42 am

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id prefer cakez over no lynch
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Post Post #843 (isolation #96) » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:43 am

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how many hours til deadline, i can't math into my timezone because i am -not smart-
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Post Post #848 (isolation #97) » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:51 am

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In post 653, Human Sequencer wrote:Cakez still a bad wagon that will probably flip town.
Varsoon, give me slots that aren't cakez to look into.

I'm also for the deadline extension due to lack of input from a few slots.
his claim recontextualizes some of his earlier actions into 'kinda towny' to me, that's where this read came from
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Post Post #854 (isolation #98) » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:35 am

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you didn't mind no lynch?
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Post Post #893 (isolation #99) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:52 pm

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I'm afflicted. is anybody else afflicted?
Trying to figure out whether it's a targeted ability by scum or whether it just happens randomly.
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Post Post #894 (isolation #100) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:53 pm

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More specifically, I got a night action PM telling me that my resolve was tested and that I rolled afflicted.
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Post Post #897 (isolation #101) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:02 pm

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o.
I skimmed the rest because I assumed it was just a regular tracker.
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Post Post #907 (isolation #102) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:20 am

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Alisae, can you at least see where wraith is coming from in his analysis?
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Post Post #908 (isolation #103) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:21 am

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I feel like Vifam was more likely Keyser's target than I.

Zefiend has made zero (0) posts so far.
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Post Post #910 (isolation #104) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:28 am

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Not really. He coulda been really good scum.

I'm fine with taking the curio, FWIW.
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Post Post #913 (isolation #105) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:32 am

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Nobody?
Keyser was the nightkill, not the lynch, you know that right?
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Post Post #914 (isolation #106) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:33 am

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Unless you're telling me to look into Kuror and Lycan, which is 100% on my to do list.
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Post Post #916 (isolation #107) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:42 am

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Reckoner was rvs which carried through Kuror.
Lycan made a big ol' wallpost on AA that makes me violently ill just to look at and then voted them.
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Post Post #921 (isolation #108) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:48 am

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I was thinking something alone those lines, but then I realized he spent most of that game catching up (I was in the PT with him) and being frustrated. It could easily be Wraith with a lot more confidence in his ability after remembering how to properly play.

Still null to me.
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Post Post #922 (isolation #109) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:50 am

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Actually nah you're right, I still wouldn't really expect that kinda depth when you look at the post more closely.
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Post Post #924 (isolation #110) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:53 am

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I'm down for at the very least a wagon.
VOTE: Varsoon
Curio: Human

That's C-1.
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Post Post #943 (isolation #111) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:16 am

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Trying to think of a flavour reason as to why scumPine would survive a shot. I'm drawing a blank.
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Post Post #944 (isolation #112) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:16 am

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I buy the claim FWIW.
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Post Post #946 (isolation #113) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:18 am

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Varsoon, don't be so down. Cakez is hard to read, get your heart in the game and your head will follow.
UNVOTE: [/iv]
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Post Post #948 (isolation #114) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:19 am

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Varsoon, walk me through why you wanted the curio now?
UNVOTE:
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Post Post #982 (isolation #115) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:05 pm

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My curio PM told me I cut myself on a spike in the Iron Maiden and now I have the disease "bad humours". I'm not told what this does, but ingame it reduces a hero's max HP by 20%.
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Post Post #983 (isolation #116) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:06 pm

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BTW, lol what townblock
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Post Post #984 (isolation #117) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:09 pm

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>inb4 i die tonight as an afflicted diseased abomination
There can be no hope in this hell… no hope at all.
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Post Post #1015 (isolation #118) » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:02 pm

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Really don't wanna lynch Zef. Would you kindly claim flavour before role, Zef? I have a reason why.
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Post Post #1047 (isolation #119) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:45 am

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So I actually got an eldritch slayer's ring from the curio yesterday, lets me ping any player to figure out if they're eldritch (one shot). I pretended I had bad humours to dodge the NK, but none of it matters because I pinged Alisae.
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Post Post #1049 (isolation #120) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:37 am

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wait what the fuck wraith was the nightkill

???
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Post Post #1050 (isolation #121) » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:38 am

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Slysly has literally not posted in 10 days
Can we have a force replace yet?
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Post Post #1086 (isolation #122) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:18 am

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Not really liking kuro here

Clumsy, why do you townread me?
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Post Post #1088 (isolation #123) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:04 am

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It fills me with warmth that 'Dismas' is still alive

@kuror
Not really
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Post Post #1115 (isolation #124) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:10 am

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In post 1112, Vifam wrote:
In post 943, Human Sequencer wrote:Trying to think of a flavour reason as to why scumPine would survive a shot. I'm drawing a blank.
????????????????

What
I couldn't think of any Ruins enemies or bosses that would grant bulletproof. I considered necromancer, but necromancer reanimates other corpses ingame, not has any effect on himself.

I also townread Pine for his comment on Alisae, because it didn't seem like the kind of thing scumPine would fabricate.

I was wrong on both counts.
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Post Post #1151 (isolation #125) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:10 am

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In post 1117, Vifam wrote:
In post 1115, Human Sequencer wrote:
In post 1112, Vifam wrote:
In post 943, Human Sequencer wrote:Trying to think of a flavour reason as to why scumPine would survive a shot. I'm drawing a blank.
????????????????

What
I couldn't think of any Ruins enemies or bosses that would grant bulletproof. I considered necromancer, but necromancer reanimates other corpses ingame, not has any effect on himself.

I also townread Pine for his comment on Alisae, because it didn't seem like the kind of thing scumPine would fabricate.

I was wrong on both counts.
Why didn't you ever bring up Pine's scumread on you after he said he wanted to make a case?


Why did you prod Pine to post more and then later said you weren't really looking at his slot?
1. It wasn't important? Am I supposed to care about people scumreading me?

2. Because he had no content. I look at the activity list, and look at how much people post, and then I complain when people don't post much or post too much or post without much content.
The slot was on hold for me, I wasn't actively trying to sort it at that time.
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Post Post #1153 (isolation #126) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:25 am

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Man at arms, a role in the game. Flavour knowledge makes this a doc soft.

I know I just outed it, but I think desperado knowing as much about the gamestate as possible is out best hope atm.
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Post Post #1155 (isolation #127) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:29 am

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I'd rather let SlySly lurk themselves into being replaced tbh.

I could get behind that as a pl I guess, but I'd really rather not.

I should look in to Lycan and Vifam more.
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Post Post #1161 (isolation #128) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:40 am

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those posts are scummy but like
sly posted them
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Post Post #1162 (isolation #129) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:41 am

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i know this crucifies me if sly flips scum but he pays so little attention to the game as town that his posts have no thought or motivation behind them, making it impossible to try and discern his alignment from them

idk maybe this is just me

i'll get back to you after i look at vifam and lycan again sometime
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Post Post #1174 (isolation #130) » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:23 am

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idk i barely even remember pine being in this game tbh and when zefiend replaced in i fell into a deep depression
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Post Post #1205 (isolation #131) » Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:58 pm

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I doubt Vifam's scumread on me, to be honest.

If I'm lynched I wouldn't mind them shot.
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Post Post #1210 (isolation #132) » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:37 am

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I'm not sure I think Vifam believes what they're saying. I'm generally pretty good at getting in people's heads and understanding their scumreads on me in situations like this, but it's difficult for me to do it here.
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Post Post #1230 (isolation #133) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:54 pm

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It's not nonsensical, I'm just not entirely sure Vifam would be so sure of my guilt after making that particular case, unless it was heavily stooped in PoE which I don't see.
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Post Post #1241 (isolation #134) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:27 pm

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It's fine, I'm only VT.

I don't know why you even play mafia, Sly, if you're going to lurk every game.
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Post Post #1247 (isolation #135) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:21 pm

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Last time I compromise wagoned SlySly for activity he flipped town.
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Post Post #1428 (isolation #136) » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:54 pm

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rip me this game

i got a lil salty tbh but that ok

gj varsoon thx for kinda carrying
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