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Considering you thought that was a good post, you're probably up thereIn post 648, Azral wrote:
This is a good post.In post 647, SnarkySnowman wrote:I'll consider mcMenno, I gotta read up a little though.
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Did it work?In post 682, lane0168 wrote:mod v/LA for a day or two
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So I have a weird role, it's basically a town game-ender / lyncher. So if it's just town and one faction left, I auto-win for the town. I also got info on how many non-town factions there are, and there are 7. Scum, survivalist, SK, ???, ???, and ???, ??? (i'm filling in blanks, I don't know the ???s). I get extra game info on those factions + some hidden ability if I personally hammer davsto.
tl;dr massclaim shouldn't win the game we still have to scumhunt
And lynching for the info may be a bad idea if we have that much scum left and davsto is town :/ I don't win upon making that lynch-
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Except the loss of a really fucking strong town PR???????
Like sure let's put it this way, I could be 3p. If I'm 3p and you lynch me, w/e cool. If I'm what I claimed and you lynch me, oh shit. How is lynching me the least risky thing to do less than 24 hours into the day phase
And cop claim has a guilty on me. How do we know cop is sane? How do we know cop claim is town? Like why are we rushing through the day
If we're popcorn claiming by the way I want davsto next-
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If I'm not alive and there's one faction left, especially if that faction can kill or has nonsense roles, town hasn't probably won. And town can't auto-endgame to win if it's 1 faction A + 1 town + 1 faction B and one of the two non-town factions die.In post 790, FrankJaeger wrote:Ok ur role isnt that powerful. The moment ur role comes into play, town has probably won anyway
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It was....
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Not sure I'm ready to do that. It may have been a bad play but it looked kinda like a bad town play.
Like I'm on the ropes + about to be lynched. People think I'm a 3p lyncher, and are prepared to lynch me regardless of whether the guilty is real or not. He says "it was a reaction test" and unvotes.
If he were scum paired with me, that makes no sense, because now we're both on the hot seat.
If he were scum and doesn't know my alignment, he'd be pushing for me to die.
And then when I flip town, he gets the rope because he lied and got a townie killed.
His action doesn't make sense to me from a scum perspective. I'll sit on that for a bit but probably I will not be voting zefiend-
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Not agreeing or disagreeing, but why is Azral the bad guy and not Davsto, if there is only one vig?In post 986, ɀefiend wrote:
Happens all the time. This is why I have Azral as top scumread. If Davsto is Mason Vig then all other Vigs are bad guys.In post 980, FrankJaeger wrote:Is 2 vigs normal? Couldnt a scum just say they are a vig in this situation?-
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Azral you're off your rocker
Hi son what makes you suggest mid-game alignment changes? Have you any info relating to that, because I haven't seen any hint of that either in game nor questionnaire.In post 987, Azral wrote:The setup isnot normal. Strong odds it'snot even balanced. It has a shit ton of factions, whether or not Snarky is telling us the truth, a shit ton ofkilling roles,(secret double votes, possible influence by dead players, mid-game changes at mod discretion, ???), possible (unconfirmed) lynchers. Some players have extra info.weird mechanics
Ho Ho Ha HaIn post 987, Azral wrote: If you're lynching based on expecting this game to be normal you're gonna have a bad time. You're going to get fucking steamrolled.
Okay soIn post 987, Azral wrote:My interpretation? The setup isn't designed to be normal. It's designed to be fun (which it is) and give us all a chance to play the perfect game, where we have the roles and mechanics we all wanted, according to the questionnaire. The only exceptions are when strict adherence to the questionnaire would make things less fun.
There's symmetry here -
Mason, one or more weaker info roles
Mason Vig, one or more weaker vig roles
That symmetry makes me say, okay. I know we have a mason vig and another limited town vig. That's two. Then we have another mason andfouradditional info roles including a cop, watcher, and questionnaire info roles. That's SIX. And despite this number, almost none of them actually got any info last night! WTF
I'm sorry but thisdoesn't compute.
So, wake up already. We should either be lynching in that group OR lynching based on behavior without consideration of roles. Which might be the best idea, and from my pov still points toward the same players. (Not a coincidence.)
1) this is not a normal game so we shouldn't make any assumptions
2) we should assume one of those isn't true and should lynch in this pool because you think so
like it's one or the other buddy
make up your mind-
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Hi please quote / link me where we know this fromIn post 989, Desperado wrote:because davsto is confirmed town-
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I'm not really suspicious of KainTepes personally, I think that makes sense with his play and only seems weird because of how he worded it (NAI for him)
Frank is believable enough for now, and I already commented on why zefiend doesn't make sense as group scum
Agree that Ali is suspicious but also it's not a super useful role if half the people here can visit other people
If I were a 3p lyncher I wouldn't have claimed anything relating to being a lyncher :/ I mean I know reverse psychology is a thing but also that's not how I play
Desp / Dav can be a scumteam like Ari / McMenno are, and Dav shooting Ari doesn't check out for me as making him town. I'm okay sitting on this for the moment but I think we should address it sooner than later.
Azral claim is fine for me I guess but his logic is super flawed and is not very town at all
Narna is pretty townie to me tbh
I think that's everyone.
Based on claims alone, I'd rank it as such:
LYNCH
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KT / zefiend / frank / Narna
NOT LYNCH
Otherwise:
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anyone else
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Honestly in a mass claim where scum presumably do not get fakeclaims, mason / mason vig are not bad claims for a scum team. Based on play I don't so much have an opinion on whether I believe the claim or not tbh. This all considering the fact that I have to hammer Davsto for extra infoIn post 993, ɀefiend wrote:Snarky, Davsto and Desp are Masons with each other. I have no reason to disbelieve this because of my read on Desp. However it is possible they could be going with a ballsy claim as Cultists.-
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"I don't really care to read KT I just want him gone regardless of alignment"In post 998, Azral wrote:
Yeah I actually agree with most of this except I might flip Ali and KT.In post 992, ɀefiend wrote:Of the informational peoples, I think KainTepes claim is the most suspicious. It's ambiguous and the net benefit to whatever alignment he's with is unrealized. I believe Frank's claim because his doccing works the same way as my copping. The next most suspicious info role would be Alisae, since a watcher with no info where literally almost everyone visited is highly unlikely. Snarky is somewhere in the middle as I believe he is a Lyncher who isn't a top priority target right now.
I find KT somewhat baffling.
is how it reads to me tbh-
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The roles and info of all players? har harIn post 1004, ɀefiend wrote:Snarky, what kind of knowledge would be so valuable that the only way to obtain it is through a Lyncher mechanic?
I don't know. It's either that or Davsto is not town and it's helpful in that it gets rid of a scum player when I lynch him :/-
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We've seen SK + 3p team + assume groupscum + town, that's 4. there could be another 3p, another town faction, and the mod to make 7. Like there are lots of ways for this to be true.In post 1008, Desperado wrote:i think snarky's just lying
mainly because i don't think half the playerlist prefers 3rd party, that's crazytalk
Do you think I'd make that shit up? Like I know it's ridiculous, and I feel like I'm pretty knowledgeable when it comes to setup stuff, I wouldn't make something like this up and expect it to be believable as a fakeclaim :T-
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that was a mistake and I re-read the role PM. Pretty sure I corrected it, but to restateIn post 1104, FrankJaeger wrote:Does snarkys math still add up about the "7 non town factions"?
Im not in a position to look it up
it's 7 factions total-
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that was a mistake and I re-read the role PM. Pretty sure I corrected it, but to restateIn post 1104, FrankJaeger wrote:Does snarkys math still add up about the "7 non town factions"?
Im not in a position to look it up
it's 7 factions total-
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You seem pretty keen on the redirection being a thing in this specific case. Something you want to share with the class?In post 1151, Narna wrote:I've shared all of my info, including in the posts you just responded to. Are you also telling me that not only were you and Frank not killed, you also weren't redirected again?-
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You seem pretty keen on the redirection being a thing in this specific case. Something you want to share with the class?In post 1151, Narna wrote:I've shared all of my info, including in the posts you just responded to. Are you also telling me that not only were you and Frank not killed, you also weren't redirected again?-
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In post 1157, SnarkySnowman wrote:
You seem pretty keen on the redirection being a thing in this specific case. Something you want to share with the class?In post 1151, Narna wrote:I've shared all of my info, including in the posts you just responded to. Are you also telling me that not only were you and Frank not killed, you also weren't redirected again?-
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Whether or not this is correct, I'm pretty sure you haven't fully claimed, you definitely have some more things you haven't shared if you're making the jumps you are right now.In post 1161, SnarkySnowman wrote:In post 1157, SnarkySnowman wrote:
You seem pretty keen on the redirection being a thing in this specific case. Something you want to share with the class?In post 1151, Narna wrote:I've shared all of my info, including in the posts you just responded to. Are you also telling me that not only were you and Frank not killed, you also weren't redirected again?-
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Considering it's clearly multiball, being anti-scum doesn't make you town. I'm not lying about my role info as much as you guys think it's nonsense. I agree with narna, there's no way town has that much power if the scum teams are so weak, so it's not likely zefiend is town, given those factors.
VOTE: zefiend
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I said that's an aspect of my role. If I lynch davsto I don't fucking win or anything. I didn't want to put that part out there because I knew this would happen -__-In post 1178, ɀefiend wrote:You admitted as much.
You are a back-pocket safe lynch if Desperado/Davsto do not feel comfortable lynching Narna toDay.
If I ever get NK'd, Frank gets turbo-lynched. No worries there.
Paging Davsto and KT for input.-
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Zsfiend I hate the way you're trying to steer this, and everyone else is kinda blindly following / not actively playing. 3 things wrong here.
Additionally, I don't really believe your last night result. I think you were blocked it redirected as narna crumbed and you made up a KT result. The only possible result you've given is Davsto and he's being less and less townie as the game has gone on.
Narna / frank I think you both fall into my town bloc, please comment-
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