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this took longer than i thought and I didn't come up with shit.

Lynch within VT's

I'm cautious of BBT and Cloud

scum JK makes sense with a town vig??

I am going to stick with my Ano Titus tunnel.

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princess is a negitive totown

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how is the setup built around that?

Since we miss a day and a lynch we have a vig to make up for it?

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VOTE: Ankamius

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Doubt

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I read her ISO I don't see town. Maybe some distancing to Cloud. Look at Titus Cloud. How are their interactions. I don't have time. almost 12:30 and have work in the morning .

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One million dollars

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If Alisea is scum I would almost think that makes math scum. To claim math is VT before math says so is a risk.
Unless scum knows the power roles and is confident there would only be VT left.

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Set up wise,
Would jail keeper make sense for town when we have a vig and aesthetic cop?
Or does it make more sense for scum?

I have never setup a game and haven't played in enough to know balance.
My assumption would be it makes more sense for scum.

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Derp Math memory fail.

Okay Crazy plan.

We lynch Alisae here. He flips scum he was buddying me. He flips town Ank is pretty much confscum.
Then lynch Ank tomorrow. If Ank is Town lynch Not Mafia. If Ank is scum lynch Screenplay.

We don't have that many mislynchs. That sounds like a stupid fishing idea.

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He did stress the one shot novice part last night.

So you are saying the role is right but not alignment. And that might explain why he was easy to use the"one shot" on a guess instead of confirming a VT.

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Or it could me Alisae/Clumsy/Screenplay here

The way Screenplay quit lurking pretty much is scumfirmstion.

You can piss off there.

I said I would get into the game and look around Sunday. I did what I said.

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2793-2799

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p8892856

Testing

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Didn't work.

Don't know how to do post link

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Me?

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Midwest

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Math plz don't lynch Ank -_-

Why not Ank?
Did you check him as a VT?

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Math plz don't lynch Ank -_-

Why not Ank?
Did you check him as a VT?

Why are you asking the person you believe to be one shot if he checked Ank as VT?

You are saying it's a possibility that he is not a one shot now he is acting like he knows more about Ank.

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Are you saying I was posting at 4:30 pm last night??

I got on around 10:30 and off around 12:30

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I think your times are wrong. Is that the posts I mentioned? If so you are way off.

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That is 11:46-11:56pm

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2:32 right now. You are doing bad math math.

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯ whatever

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Azral, Cloud, BBT, Alisae

That's to many for a scum list. Let me fix it for you

Ank Cloud Alisea

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can scum kill and perform action?

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VOTE: Cloud

That's the same shot you pulled with LUV
"I wouldn't be surprised if they flip green"

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*shit

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The consistent thing is you being ok lynching town

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if this flips greens this also means that ive been buddied hard by scum since i claimed because iwas leading the lynches on town who were extremely misguided aka luv and clum and shadow

Which means you are a hindrance to town

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So mafia can take an action and kill

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I'm about to pull a NM.

OMG this game.

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I'm about to pull a NM.

OMG this game.

Never mind I can't do it.


I gotta leave my vote on cloud.

All he has done is gotten town lynched and knowingly admits it. And saved he own ass. He hasn't been playing for us. He been playing for him.

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Lol. You are so full of shit. I feel like you are laughingly mocking us for not lynching you sooner.

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VOTE: Clumsy

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I am town and clumsy sure in the fuck better be scum or shot me I'm done anyway.

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YESSSSSS I DID IT IM MEFIA

???

Yes a thousand times. Why in the hell would he say that.

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You are stressing me out.

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VOTE: cloud

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Just stop. Don't try to direct anything. You are not a conductor, you are a sheep.

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Don't try to hard.

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Mislynch

This has got to be one of the most frustrating game I have been in.
Not one of you are confirmed town in my eyes. That all boils down to Cloud.
I don't know what to say and think any more. I am ready to see and hear explanations at the conclusion.

I think it's obvious town lost.

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VOTE: Alisea

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Alisea would take a gamble to call you VT if she wasn't Neo. If he is a neo it makes sense that he has more than one shot. He has softened reads on other VT by saying "I am. Not voting their". That makes sense as scum Neo, to try to hunt out pr's by finding VT.

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All of you

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Ya because scum would really go for a VT with a JK alive.

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That right there is why all of you are scum.

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Two more

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tbh I really wasn't trying to insult.
Sorry if you found it taken that way Srceen.

I hope you understand you cant insult me.

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Ok. I didn't read it as an insult

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I already am

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The way Cloud is playing I can see him trolling and tells the team no kill. We got this let's troll some more.

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They didnt kill because its 8 ppl alive, was on math. I wanted you to get full on control on whoever you wanted shot in the event you wanted to killz

He even calls it a no kill. Not that he saved you.

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If town has a vig why would scum have a protective?

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If we have a vig is it unreasonable for scum to have a jk or rb?
Does that not make sense?
If you say he crumb it does that not make sense that scum blocks him?

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Ank is the Titus slot I have tried to vote already?

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It 5-3
Mislynch 4-3
Nk 3-3
Scum wins

Where is the lylo?

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Fail^

This make believe town block is shit. People's reasoning is shit. This game has went to shit.

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I really don't know.
I can see possibilities with everyone. I definitely don't need to scum hunt anymore, I need to town hunt.

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You're not even townhunting right now.
If you are town and you think you should be townhunting you should be doing that.

Not listening. I do me you do you.

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@math
And you are trying to forcibly lead town when you admit you could be scum.

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I tried to get Hirikai lynched and Titus
So ya. Go sheep someone.

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Well anyone voting me is wrong and that goes against town wincon. I just said I tried pushing lynches and no one should listen,so don't say I didn't.

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Frustration. At one time he was a scum lean. Cloud took that over but I gen I started second guessing myself.

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Excuse me your honor. He trying to lead the witness.
You asked why I hammered and I answered.
I didn't answer for Alisea and can't.

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I don't understand how Math would want to lynch me over Alisea if he thinks we are both scum.

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Vote counts are wrong.

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Math is a they.

You are right, sorry Math

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https://youtu.be/nKKbCLgJlC0

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Lolololololol

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Why in the hell would scum buss if all the need is one mislynch?
I can maybe understand if it was late in the day and things weren't going good but the beginning of the day?

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NM who did you track?

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Explain

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So why not kill you? You can't JK yourself?
Maybe you JK the killer and that's why there was nk.
Why does Math say me or Alisea but push me harder?

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So we have a princess that can potentially lose us a lynch.
A vig makes up for that by a potential night kill.
What kind of role would scum have to balance vig? A RB or JK?
What reason for a town aesthetic cop? What does that do for balance? Prevent scum RB or JK?

I'm not discrediting your thought on why not shot vig, but to me it would make more since to take out the guy who has been 100% with his night actions.

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UNVOTE:

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Can you explain the enabler to me. Looked at wiki and don't understand it. It copies another role in game?
Why are you so sure scum has that?

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So who would they be enabling? What prs do you think are the same?

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Why do you think scum have it?

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This sudden line of questioning also seems fake.

Go sheep somewhere or get sheared from this game.

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If you are town that leaves Alisea Math and Ank

A zeal has been quiet though.

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When you talk of me as scum, it is irrelevant. Because it's false.

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So who would they be enabling? What prs do you think are the same?

Why do you think scum have it?

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So who would they be enabling? What prs do you think are the same?

Why do you think scum have it?

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So who would they be enabling? What prs do you think are the same?

Why do you think scum have it?

Setup balance

And JK as I said.

So others have been JK when Cloud JK?

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Did someone come forward?

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But not JK-ing?

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But why has no one else say the have been JK'ed?

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So what's the point of two jk setup wise?
Wouldn't scum jk always be on a pr if they are letting them live? Wouldn't they have came back with no results by now?

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Still think Cloud. It's shitty that he lol's claiming scum. Never misses night action. Ok with lynching town.

If he is town.

Alisea Math Ank

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Jk enabler cannot Jk? The what the hell is the point?

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Sounds like a dumb role. They have no type of power then?

If you know for a fact two scum, why would you lynch the one you think is jk enabler if that means town loses jk?

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So your reasoning is get to get rid other the 100% accurate JK.
Confirm a powerless JK that you say is already confirmed?

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So your reasoning is get to get rid other the 100% accurate JK.
Confirm a powerless JK that you say is already confirmed?

From how I see mechanics Cloud is confirmed. However as time passes more value is to the townfirm/NK than the JK. Because if we have confirmed town deciding votes scum can't break that.

That doesn't make sense to me. If he is town JK he is batting perfect and to bench the perfect hitter... don't get it.

You seem to act like you are ok with lynching Alisea but I think you actions are saying you don't.

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Your confirmed town because your scum read says so and JK stopped a kill by being on you?

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Titus replacing out could also be seen as distancing act.

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Unless you and Alisea are a team and JK stopped you from killing. I mean of course you would be the one to go kill. You are confirmed town. Why would you be checked.

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Or if killer was in jail.
If there is winfom you can't call it confirmed!?!?

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NM can have my vote.

VOTE: Ank

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Don't put me at L-2 yet.

Wanna know my night action?

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I sat at home and did nothing. I knew the death eaters would not come for me. I am bait for the day. Fang on the other hand is a coward. He ran off. So, I had to get out and find him.

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Your confirmed town because your scum read says so and JK stopped a kill by being on you?

Yes. Because if Alisae didn't have a result when he said those things he would be outed scum.

He had no option but to confirm me. The fact of that and a JK stopping a kill and on top of that being universally townread makes me conf yes.

Unless you and Alisea are a team and JK stopped you from killing. I mean of course you would be the one to go kill. You are confirmed town. Why would you be checked.

First of all -- That doesn't make sense.

Why would I townfirm three people as scum.

Like that is how to lose as scum.

Just no Rotflmbo.

I still say math is high possibility.

Why didn't they kill you last night? You were a better kill than jk the night before but not last night?

Math Ank maybe azeal.

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Why not?

I do believe NM is tracker. It makes sense to me for us to have another invest role.

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Ok. We have time. I will relook.

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You tried to force my vote with an Alisea kicker. After seeing I wasn't going through you went ahead and bussed. It still puts you in a winning condition knowing the rest of town wants to lynch me next.

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Not mafia Town
BBT Town
Screenplay Town

Math Azeal Ank. Only one of them is town.

I will vote with NM and BBT
I think I prefer Math.
I think Cloud blocked Math from killing. After Alisea flipping scum, I think maths self proclaimed confirmed town is out the window.

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I don't see math as confirmed. A liar confirmed Math. A JK jailed Math and we didn't get a kill.
If you 100% believe Math is town, that means Ank and Az have to be last two scum.
My bet is still that math is scum but what ever

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Lol Ank you didn't tunnel Alisae. That would be me. Booo Bad Ank. You kept trying to lynch Not Mafia.

You do realize that I caught Alisae almost instantly after replacing in and except for a brief time on Srceenplay, I never once voted anybody else until he died, right?

Now that I'm looking at that post again and remembering how much resistance I got from them in my reach outs, I'm starting to wonder if Mathblade really is scum this game.

What reach outs are you talking about?
Why continue to vote NM? You honestly still think he is scum?
Read list?

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And I was and still am conftown for the record.

1) I crumbed flavor not valid early and so did step.
2) with Alisae flipping rolecop that means that Alisae was trying to buddy me and ride the creds. Attaching himself to me would be quite stupid and I have only lost one scum game on all of MS that was genuinely my bad. There is no way I would make a newb mistake like that as scum.

I am tired almost midnight but wow...someone believing I would be scum is comically bad especially from Ank.

1) so did Alisea
2) Alisea claim on you was used to "town confirm" you. That was one of your basis for being confirmed. The only one confirmed from that is Alisea, confirmed scum. Anything scum says cannot be considered 100% credible.

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Again.
NM town. I believe Town would have another invest role.
BBT town. I think a vig balances out the possibility of us losing a day from the princess.
Me town. Because I said so.

That leaves
Math
Ank
Az

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I wanted to see if someone tried to hammer that.

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Can we try to get something out of azrel first?

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Oh crumbs.
Can you quote the crumbs?

I quoted the one I think that was safe to quote. The other I won't because I think it reveals how many shots BBT has.

Math is awesome or had insider information for looking for crumbs.
Then even mentioned something about the amour of shots?
Did BBT say anything about shots or just Alisea?

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I want to hold off on Ank for a bit please.

Azral please talk to us.

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And VOTE: Ankamius

Screenplay. I have earned your trust here. Vote Screenplay.

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Secondly you know how to read me as Town I am painfully obvious to you.

No, you aren't painfully obvious town to me. I told you there is a subtle tone shift between your town and scum games, and I even specifically said that it was difficult to detect if I wasn't keeping both in my recent memory at the time.

Screenplay today because you were not tunneling Alisae yesterday you were wanting to talk about not Mafia non stop trying to pull the wagon away from Alisae.

Bullshit.

You know from Undertale that I am very easy to draw into 1v1 wars, as you were 1v1ing me for

months

in that game even though I had stronger scumreads throughout most of the game.

Yeah just so done Ank is scum.

Screenplay is scum. Screenplay first as agreed on by the townies.

Not Mafia I am expecting your Screenplay vote ASAP as discussed yesterday.

Alisea was a role cop. Claimed to know and checked BBT role. Then you conveniently know the crumbs and shot amount as well. I think that is pretty damning.

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I am beginning to think Math and Az

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If it's NM
Then scum has a role cop and tracker. That doesn't make sense.
Town would have nothing.

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I plan on voting Math. I want BBT and NM to check in first.

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NM BBT are you coming? I am ready to vote Math.

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I'm not scum reading Math, I'll vote Ank and Azral today

Reread their ISO. Tell me if you pick up anything.
Not much in Azral. He wanted them uzi lynch. Wanted to lynch Cloud. Then town read him with math. Talked about math picking up crumbs. Now wants me dead.

I didn't read Ank today but I will latter.

For now I am more confident on Math.

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[LYNCH] shos - Srceenplay, Anotora, Frosty Scales, Gamma Emerald, Keyser Söze, Clumsy Phoenix, Not_Mafia,

Ank who is scum on this lynch?
Not Mafia who is scum on this lynch?

Anotora, Frosty, Gamma.

All 3 on a D1 lynch?

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[LYNCH] Lil Uzi Vert - Not_Mafia, Alisae, Titus, Hiraki, CloudKicker, BlueBloodedToffee

Repeat the same question

Alisae, Titus

Read az ISO. He wanted this lynch

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Alisea is trying to push the point that you are confirmed town and I should be killed.

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Let me read that in context

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So this is right before the no kill night. Why would Alisea mafia try to kill Math right after telling Cloud to JK?
Then Cloud says this. But he gambles and goes on math anyway.
Right before this he tells NM to track a VT. So it would have been a safe call for Math to do the kill knowing no one should be on her.

If Clums flips Green, Srceen is a really safe place to shoot.
Cloudie you should JK Math since they're basicly an IC at this point.

no i dont care about protecting a vt claim, mefia will hit either me, vig or tracker

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VOTE: Clumsy

Explain the hammer here without intent.

Frustration

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I never stopped. He was always suspicious.
When I started breaking down setups and asking questions about it is when I became hesitant to lynch him.
But I went with my most obvious town read NM and said I would vote with him.

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Then why would Scum try to kill you when Alisea said to protect you?

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Ok. I'm at L-2 and not hammered yet. Math is definitely scum.

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VOTE: Math

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Cloud they shot me.

Because Alisae checked me.
If Alisae is town I am conf town.

If Alisae is scum I am a person who he can't vote for and therefore the only way I am scum is with him. Scum don't give conf!town that close to LyLO/MyLO without killing them.

The fact I am alive demonstrates conf town instead of Cloud being shot. It means my reads are right.

Ankamius, what do you make of this reasoning then?

Not Mafia your team is proven wrong on this post.

Please go reexamine.

You are right. This post does say a lot. Like how you are being subtlety defended by your partner.

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BBT NM we need you to vote Math.

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All four of us will have to agree on the mafia team for this to work.

Why do you think Ank? Because of his weird tunnel on you?

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Gg

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I'm town

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First time ever being lynched

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So was I right?
Az and Math?

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If NM is scum he had to have tracked Cloud to kaizer.
That gives scum to much power. Not fair for town.

But why did you switch to me NM?

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No it wasn't.

What ever GG.

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If so I think it's unfair.
Explain the balance to me.

I was just beginning to have hope for us to win.

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Not scum trolling
That's GG

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That is horrible for me. Didn't get anything right this game. No wonder they left me alive so long.

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Well I would never have lynched NM

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How in the hell did NM get right that Cloud visited keyser??

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+1^

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I think what made it hard for town is losing the cop N1.
Plus NM with the lucky guess on Cloud.

Why did you change vig to one shot instead of two shot?

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I had fun Keyen. It was stressful but fun.
Thank you for the time you put into the game.

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If we could have lynched az and NM didn't die the next night we could have won.

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Honestly if he did have another shot he probably would have just shot me.

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Yup. If keyser didn't make himself the obvious kill and NM didn't get lucky and was wrong. It would have been a different game. He explained he wanted a game with princess. A vig is good to make up for it. It was a fun stressful game. Town just happened to get the worst possible situation. Good job to cloud for being able to stay alive through most of it.

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Cloud, the two of us threw the game singlehandedly.

Would that be double handedly?


I don't you you guys threw the game. I think scum did good and we lost because of it.