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tfw unprovable randomness can be badIn post 15, pieg wrote:
Bad rvs is bad. You are added to the hitlist and you should feel badIn post 13, PranaDevil wrote:vote: AlzFor not knowing fat bastards use Diet Coke to pretend they're dieting.
coke zero and diet coke are literally the same shit with a different label colourIn post 24, TwoFace wrote:
The cool kids use Coke Zero now cause Diet Coke is gross.In post 13, PranaDevil wrote:vote: AlzFor not knowing fat bastards use Diet Coke to pretend they're dieting.
Personally I'm addicted to diet Mountain Dew.
I refuse to acknowledge that last statement.In post 39, Firebringer wrote:
This is also a scum post.In post 38, -Grey- wrote:Oh noez.
A townie would never add that period at the end if they were legitimately serious.no period??? VOTE: fire
We aren't?In post 92, TwoFace wrote:
maybe if we were playing mafia in 1999In post 87, massive wrote:But isn't Whemestar in the scum spot?!!
mastin, mastina, mastin2?In post 124, Persivul wrote:
I thought of that but why would you make an alt if it's so obvious?In post 121, Desperado wrote:i don't know "pieg" but i know a "pieguyn"
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oh yeah, I bet you can really taste the difference between citric acid and sodium citrate. Get placebo'd m8.In post 164, TwoFace wrote:
Yet they taste differentlyIn post 163, Nosferatu wrote:coke zero and diet coke are literally the same shit with a different label colour-
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which reminds me
these kind of posts never bode well imoIn post 162, implosion wrote:@nexus, you missed my vote in the VC (assuming there's no shenanigans).
Desperado remains an excellent vote.
pieg is town. Persivul is town. Wheme looks somewhat town, but not as town as I thought he likely would if he was town so we'll see. massive is likely town. Fire's decently likely town, his early tone felt off but i like his reads.-
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yeah, it sucks, having to carry yet another game as townIn post 168, pieg wrote:In post 167, Nosferatu wrote:which reminds me
these kind of posts never bode well imoIn post 162, implosion wrote:@nexus, you missed my vote in the VC (assuming there's no shenanigans).
Desperado remains an excellent vote.
pieg is town. Persivul is town. Wheme looks somewhat town, but not as town as I thought he likely would if he was town so we'll see. massive is likely town. Fire's decently likely town, his early tone felt off but i like his reads.
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you like them because his read of you is actually the most bullshit I've ever read in a sentenceIn post 218, pieg wrote:
tone doesn't suck and i like his readsIn post 216, -Grey- wrote:
Why is implosion town?In post 215, pieg wrote:i think you're a townie quavering against the sr in your gut-
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come on guys, most of the people on this list hadn't even posted yet, you cannot turn around and interpret this as a legit readlistIn post 11, pieg wrote:Grey
Pine
Implosion
Nosferatu
Fire
Prana
Persivul
TwoFace
Wheme
---------<--- line of lynchability
Desperado
Alz
VOTE: desperado-
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It's dumb and hopefully he'll stop. I don't see scum motivation. I seem to remember Pine playing along with the "moist" shenanigans that happened in our last game together so I'm pretty sure he just likes to fuck around in the early game. Probably just NAI.In post 264, Persivul wrote:I was already there and no one seemed to care. Maybe you'll be heard.
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nix that last bit. Still probably just NAI.In post 265, Nosferatu wrote:
It's dumb and hopefully he'll stop. I don't see scum motivation. I seem to rememberIn post 264, Persivul wrote:I was already there and no one seemed to care. Maybe you'll be heard.
What do you think of Pine talking in memes?Pine playing along with the "moist" shenanigans that happened in our last game together so I'm pretty sure he just likes to fuck around in the early game. Probably just NAI.-
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how about pieg willfully letting implosion have a read that he knows is faulty in reasoning?
pedit: then why are some people who haven't posted in the readlist while some people aren't? Desperado frequently uses that readlist. If you can't see that as RVS idk what to tell you. HE EVEN JOKES ABOUT IT IN HIS NEXT POST.-
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You seem to be tryin real hard to reinforce this read on pieg so idk. I'd probably put you two as the same alignment in the sense that I'd go for a lynch on you if pieg fipped scum, but probably not if he flipped town. Why do you ask?In post 279, implosion wrote:@Nos, what's your read of me right now?-
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pine wagon is shit; zero motivation either alignment for him to do what he's doing.In post 278, implosion wrote:aaah. okay.
Well. it doesn't really matter. it's mostly irrelevant to my reads.
Persivul brings up a rather good point.
Unvote
VOTE: Pine-
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that is bullshit and we both know itIn post 298, pieg wrote:
let's not pretend this isn't omgusIn post 263, Nosferatu wrote:the fact that pieg is perpetuating a read implosion has of him that he obviously knows is faulty is awful
VOTE: pieg
i = they. also bruh you're trying too hard. imp's reasoning was a-okay, readlist was sirius i get early reads and fly with 'em and joke about it all the while that's how i doIn post 273, Nosferatu wrote:how about pieg willfully letting implosion have a read that he knows is faulty in reasoning?
pedit: then why are some people who haven't posted in the readlist while some people aren't? Desperado frequently uses that readlist. If you can't see that as RVS idk what to tell you. HE EVEN JOKES ABOUT IT IN HIS NEXT POST.-
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Because if he keeps doing it, we're obviously gonna just end up policy lynching?In post 324, Persivul wrote:In post 293, Nosferatu wrote: pine wagon is shit; zero motivation either alignment for him to do what he's doing.In post 290, -Grey- wrote: What makes you think Scum wouldn't fake a post restriction to deter interactions and attempts to sort?
@implosion: I was avoiding putting the blame on you because I didn't want to be upfront and call you a fucking dumbass. You're trying so hard to believe in something that is obviously fake as shit. He copied desp's read format to vote him, included many people who weren't present in the list, and included them indiscriminately. Copy this down in your notes, do whatever you have to do to consult this later: This right here is why I think it was RVS.
The thing that you don't seem to get, is that this isn't about you. I'm not avoiding rhetoric towards you because I want to have good standing with you; I don't give a shit about you. It's howpiegresponded to a read you had of him. You aren't included in the rhetoric because there's nothing to say about you.
This wagon is pointless: obviously, no one gives a shit about it and I can recognise when I'm fighting a one-man battle. UNVOTE: pieg I'll read over grey later in the morning; probably won't be voting desp.
it was rhetorical.pieg wrote:that seems a rather aimless question. in the post you quoted, i am calling you scums and voting you because i want you to die more than i like the desp wagon. do you need help reading any other posts?
>inb4 nos drops pieg wagon right as heat starts piling on
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You should really make some sort of tutorial for talking out of your ass I'm really finding difficulty with it.In post 337, pieg wrote:
horsepucky, the fact that i used desp's readslist as a joke has no bearing whatsoever about the fact that the reads were real. i voted him because his tone was wut and there were already 2 votes on him so it was fast-track wagon to getting out of RVS. your shit is fake you're pushing bad pills you're fucking dead as today's lynch buh-bye scum signed sealed and delivered.In post 334, Nosferatu wrote:@implosion: I was avoiding putting the blame on you because I didn't want to be upfront and call you a fucking dumbass. You're trying so hard to believe in something that is obviously fake as shit. He copied desp's read format to vote him, included many people who weren't present in the list, and included them indiscriminately. Copy this down in your notes, do whatever you have to do to consult this later: This right here is why I think it was RVS.-
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I want you to try your best to fix that sentence to make any sense whatsoeverIn post 368, pieg wrote:
do you have a habit of talking yourself in mafia or just when you're scum?In post 346, Nosferatu wrote:You should really make some sort of tutorial for talking out of your ass I'm really finding difficulty with it.
If you haven't sorted him by then he's probably scum lolIn post 362, Persivul wrote:Get to lylo with FB and try to sort him based on 500 posts of fluff, then see how much you like him.Two questions, 1) What happened that made you flip your read and 2) why pers > me when you called me "likely scum" vs him "could be scum"
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these exchanges are unproductive and just inflate the game post count, so unless you've got something to say, just stop.In post 373, pieg wrote:
sry i forgot you don't know how to read posts v well. your iso = talking out of ur assIn post 369, Nosferatu wrote:
I want you to try your best to fix that sentence to make any sense whatsoeverIn post 368, pieg wrote:
do you have a habit of talking yourself in mafia or just when you're scum?In post 346, Nosferatu wrote:You should really make some sort of tutorial for talking out of your ass I'm really finding difficulty with it.that's pretty poor
whats wrong with themIn post 386, WhemeStar wrote:He has 3 posts, I won't count the first one, and they all suck. I'll keep my vote on him until he posts stuff I like
sheeperino: VOTE: persivul-
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I'm not, I'm just telling you to ask me something instead of just throwing shit. It obviously hasn't worked for either of us.In post 398, pieg wrote:
i like how you spew a bunch of bullshit about my and implosion's slots and then repeatedly pretend like nothing happened hoping that i'll just lose interest and go awayIn post 397, Nosferatu wrote:these exchanges are unproductive and just inflate the game post count, so unless you've got something to say, just stop.-
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more of a melting pot than the austro-hungarian empireIn post 401, Nexus wrote:
Votecount 1.6:
pieg (2)- massive, Alz
Persivul (2)- Firebringer, Nosferatu
Desperado (2)- Pine, implosion
implosion (2)- Desperado, -Grey-
Pine (1)- Persivul
PranaDevil (1)- PranaDevil
Nosferatu (1)- pieg
-Grey- (1)- TwoFace
massive (1)- Whemestar
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1. no, that's really not what people who are easy to lynch are called.In post 504, Persivul wrote:
Speaking of funny...there's a word for people who are easy to lynch: scummy. You're criticizing me for pushing players who appear scummy.In post 501, Firebringer wrote:kind of funny to me
You're voting me. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not a hypocrite, so you apparently think that I don't really appear scummy, i.e. you don't have a solid basis for your push. NTTAWWT at this stage of the game, but it's pretty funny.
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yeah, figures. I was considering that you might've taken from the activity overview which would invalidate my case. Which you just did. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯In post 522, pieg wrote:
Oh I love appeasing scums! I read activity overview and randomly entered them. How in the world could you consider changing a read based on that?In post 507, Nosferatu wrote:UNVOTE:
Pers isn't that scummy. Just wrong.
speaking of which,
@pieg: one question for you, how exactly did you come up with the order for the players who hadn't spoken yet in your read list? I'd be willing to change my read based on your answer.
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Yeah, that was pretty much the idea. I didn't think very much of his next read list, didn't see any interactive connections it had with implosion. I think imp's posts are all pretty genuine though. Feel free to push your bad vibez thoIn post 517, Alz wrote: 334
Pine wagon is bad-mainly because however we look at it, we're gonna be policy lynching him 'cause we can't read him. I dunno if it's a mod given post restriction or pine's just doing it not to be read, but it's dumb to lynch him.
SO you think, implosion just has a mistaken town read of Pieg which pieg is trying perpetuate? What do you make of Pieg's second reads list-where even though he says implosion has been great so far, he has him much lower down.
Why do you consider desp towny?
See, this is what I find weird. Implosion's last post was kinda sounded genuine, explaining his motivations on pieg. But his previous ones supporting pieg, pieg's reinforcing of that idea and his reads list where implosion is lower down all give off bad vibes to me. I'm really confused especially after implosion's last post.-
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ytho
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On top of the fact I have zero interest in actively fighting a wagon on me, even.In post 561, massive wrote:
Because you're voting away from wagons and doing absolutely zero to push anyone else towards Grey?In post 559, TwoFace wrote:
Somehow missed this.In post 463, massive wrote:but I'd rather he wasn't vanity voting.
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:/ The main point of my case was about how you had a bullshit readlist, implosion believed it, and you went with it, which would have been really scummy. But if you went by activity overview, its not exactly an RVS list.In post 604, pieg wrote:
what was your case lolIn post 529, Nosferatu wrote:yeah, figures. I was considering that you might've taken from the activity overview which would invalidate my case. Which you just did. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
how were you scumreading someone based on how they wrote their readslist
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hi to me ;~;In post 658, Alisae wrote:
Are you not even going to say hi to me ;~;In post 655, Nosferatu wrote:@Fire: how do you feel about alisae's last few posts?In post 660, Firebringer wrote:
neutral about him so far.In post 655, Nosferatu wrote:@Fire: how do you feel about alisae's last few posts?
this response pings me fsrIn post 641, Alisae wrote:
I don't really know a good way to answer this.In post 640, massive wrote:Well, no, if someone's being stubborn, pointing out to them that they're being stubborn usually does NOT work. Mafia or otherwise. How do you not know that?
Massive you scum? I feel like all the questions you asked on this page are manipulative.-
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neither of them looked particularly town from that exchange. It was just meaningless bickering. Alisae is much more interesting than that shitstorm.In post 678, Desperado wrote:@ nos and implosion: i'm voting wheme because he rolled scum and has no idea what to do
grey vs twoface was...odd. i don't agree that twoface looked town during it and he sure as hell didn't look town after ali replaced in-
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1. My read is now null on him. The reason I scum-read him is gone, which is why I unvoted. I already posted why I would change my read based on the answer.In post 720, Alz wrote:
Out of everything, pieg looks better in this interaction and Nos looks weird. I would like to repeat the question he asked-how would you consider changing your read based on his answer? What's your read now based on it?In post 529, Nosferatu wrote: yeah, figures. I was considering that you might've taken from the activity overview which would invalidate my case. Which you just did. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This is weird, a weird question at the beginning, seems like an attempt to try to lay the groundwork to easily change his reads and manner of interaction towards him, followed by a casual response to pieg's answer to that question.
Yep, he's invalidated your case on him which appeared to be strong till now, with just one answer about the order he wrote his readslist in. Makes everything look very weird in hindsight
I dunno, it's what I have seen done by scum. They either support their teammates well but puts them somewhere in the middle of their town-readsIn post 534, Nosferatu wrote: Yeah, that was pretty much the idea. I didn't think very much of his next read list, didn't see any interactive connections it had with implosion. I think imp's posts are all pretty genuine though. Feel free to push your bad vibez tho
Implosion's posts do seem town. I initially thoght him to be scum partners with pieg but now not sure. Not sure about pieg as well due to my lack of following the game continuously but i'll see.
2. If I didn't lay the groundwork and ask him the question for him to answer, I'd be sticking to a scum-read I know was possibly untrue. In other words I'd be perpetuating a false read. Kinda the thing I voted him for.
3. I've never observed that sort of thing, but interactions aren't my forte. Although while I'm on that note, I don't think you should be looking at the interactions of two people when you don't think either of them are scum. I've tried that before and it typically doesn't work.-
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I can't see scum literally asking to be part of a townbloc :/In post 743, pieg wrote:game is stagnating bc the leading wagon is on town and the competing wagon is on scum
VOTE: wheme
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I was wrong again.In post 788, WhemeStar wrote:
Gj nosIn post 755, Nosferatu wrote:
I can't see scum literally asking to be part of a townbloc :/In post 743, pieg wrote:game is stagnating bc the leading wagon is on town and the competing wagon is on scum
VOTE: wheme
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In post 798, pieg wrote:
why can't you see scum asking to be part of a townbloc? is this in reference to you?In post 755, Nosferatu wrote:
I can't see scum literally asking to be part of a townbloc :/In post 743, pieg wrote:game is stagnating bc the leading wagon is on town and the competing wagon is on scum
VOTE: wheme
which game was that?In post 745, pieg wrote:so have i tho
seems really awkward. But he did it lolIn post 734, WhemeStar wrote:
Can I be in it pretty pleaseIn post 732, Firebringer wrote:I want to form a town block.-
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mb, I should've just assumed I was right and did absolutely nothing when I realized I could've been wrong. I should've followed through on a lynch that had a possibility of being town. That's honestly the stupidest thing I've heard this whole day. I started backing down because I doubted myself. I'm allowed to second-guess my reads, and if anything, it's what makes me town. It's called thinking clearly.In post 815, Alz wrote:
See the reason you gave before voting pieg at the beginning, is that his reads list was faulty and that mainly implosion had a TR of him which he kept perpetuating as seen in 263, 273. You kept focusing on him till 507 at which point you started backing down weirdly.In post 731, Nosferatu wrote: 1. My read is now null on him. The reason I scum-read him is gone, which is why I unvoted. I already posted why I would change my read based on the answer.
2. If I didn't lay the groundwork and ask him the question for him to answer, I'd be sticking to a scum-read I know was possibly untrue. In other words I'd be perpetuating a false read. Kinda the thing I voted him for.
3. I've never observed that sort of thing, but interactions aren't my forte. Although while I'm on that note, I don't think you should be looking at the interactions of two people when you don't think either of them are scum. I've tried that before and it typically doesn't work.
You then asked pieg what was the order he posted his reads list in saying that his answer would change your read. He said, he got it from activity overview, which was apparently enough for you? I don't understand how those two things correlate at all. This is very weird and completely vague reason to back off.
You asked him a vague question which imo has no bearing on perpetuating a false read. So according to this, you wanted him to give that answer which would prove he was not scum. All of this is weird.
I felt you were town at the beginning, a lot of your posts were similar to my thought process but this, it's scummy. It now feels like you were bussing him and then just slowly slid off
As for the last part, I've seen it happen a few times. I now don't think so strongly that implosion is scum, he seems more towny as posts go by. Pieg, yeah the scum reads reinforced by this and his prior posts on a read.-
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I just can't see how I could've transitioned better.In post 822, Alz wrote:I never said you shouldn't change your reads or second guess yourself or should've done nothing. That's what I said to implosion, that you could've realized it was a misunderstanding and clarified it.
What I said was that, what I found scummy is the way you did it. The vague reason and the 180 and the manner it was done was scummy
I see thatIn post 823, WhemeStar wrote:
I'm an awkward guyIn post 820, Nosferatu wrote:In post 798, pieg wrote:
why can't you see scum asking to be part of a townbloc? is this in reference to you?In post 755, Nosferatu wrote:
I can't see scum literally asking to be part of a townbloc :/In post 743, pieg wrote:game is stagnating bc the leading wagon is on town and the competing wagon is on scum
VOTE: wheme
which game was that?In post 745, pieg wrote:so have i tho
seems really awkward. But he did it lolIn post 734, WhemeStar wrote:
Can I be in it pretty pleaseIn post 732, Firebringer wrote:I want to form a town block.-
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usually when a townbloc is forming its like "yo, x, y, and z, we town now" and person a doesn't come in and just go "can i haz town plox"In post 849, Persivul wrote:
With this kind of town block - just self proclaimed and by mutual agreement on D1 - why not?In post 755, Nosferatu wrote:I can't see scum literally asking to be part of a townbloc :/
usually doesn't explicitly ask for entry into the townbloc. Like idk might have been a joke, but either way just the idea of going "can I be conf town" just didn't make sense from a scum perspective. Just seemed awkward to me.-
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I'm sorry but I just noticed, what the fuck is this list.In post 1011, pieg wrote: 1. you are highly prone to conf!bias
b. you aren't attuned to gamestates
5. you don't grok readily
1, b, 5?
conf!bias?
groking something necessitates using feelings, and alisae seems to read with tone and feelings quite often.
JUST WHAT THE FUCK. And what's the point of pointing this out to her? Just for future reference?
Not AI just an annoying observation I needed to make.
Well, let's see, is the word "replace out" featured in my post anywhere?massive wrote:No, it's not. Are you saying my request to replace out was directly related to Dark self-voting?
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In post 926, Darklyn wrote:
New mostlyIn post 924, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I'm so sorry I still hate that game
Dark, are you a new member or have you played before?
sorry but I cba to go tryhard on this game, you can have a mislynch on me if you want but this slot has barely interacted with anyone so you won't gain anything from itIn post 931, Darklyn wrote:
VOTE: DarklynIn post 927, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Why are you trying to sell me that you're not worthy of a lynch because there are no associatives instead of because you're town?
not selling anything, just stating facts, see ya
^this post right after he self-votes?In post 979, massive wrote:
Yeah I really REALLY hated that whole conversation between you and Darklyn. Honestly I don't care if he's scum, he's not playing the game and filling it with gutter trash, I can be rid of him either way.In post 967, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:If scum, massive looks scummy, really his vote in general seemed overdramatized
I just said I didn't think the replace out and self vote were unrelated which was your question?
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I'll try to make this more transparent: I'm saying that the way you reacted to dark's whole attitude (self-vote included) opened up the possiblity that if dark flips scum you might be a potential partner. This is because of what seemed like an overreaction to what was simply apathy for the game, and I hadn't seen you react like that to apathy in the several game we've played together. Since the reaction seemed exaggerated, it appeared to me as if scum!massive could be lowkey distancing himself from dark by treating their behaviour with indignation.
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See but you didn't say "im upset cause dark used the s-word*"In post 1086, massive wrote:How can this be seen as anything other than someone, who reads this game in a workplace setting, being upset at having to pull up game pages discussing sexual acts on a game site where this should not have to exist? This is not "partner anger." This is "legit disgust." The fact that Darklyn (and now you) are trying to conflate this as "scummy behavior" is why a replace out is probably necessary -- it seems no one can stoop so low as common decency and respect for their fellow players. so no, I am not "aight," I am legit pissed that this is even in a Mafia game.
You said it was because he said he couldn't be assed to follow the game. So I don't see how you expect me to immediately recognize your victorianesque disgust for indecency when you don't make that clear at all.
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ytho
and when the fuck have I ever played with nancy? you said we had meta so I was like pieguyn??? hella confused and watching legion doesn't help
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slips are real rn
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Maybe if you gave some proper reasoning for a vote you wouldn't feel so little conviction with them
I still think we shouldn't have lynched pine yesterday. It's what vig shots are for, and props to Ali for doing her job there.In post 1408, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I'm more interested in people saying to ignore Pine.
That's Nos and Fire and probs someone else
this game was played when I was actually 6 years oldIn post 1415, Firebringer wrote:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=6771In post 1413, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I've never seen town do a fake post restriction like that. I mean you could show me and light up my world but besides that, yeah no I don't see that happening.
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@AJ: I voted wheme cause of the interaction between him and Fire.
I switched off of Alz because momo replaced in and I wanted to wait for him to do something one way or the other.
Voting Fire currently cause I didn't like the outburst of extreme shitposting.
I left pieg wagon D1 before I changed my read because it very obviously wasn't going anywhere and Persivul seemed like an interesting push.
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To be specific on the posts that made me change my mind:In post 29, WhemeStar wrote:Hi everyone. Looking forward to this gamePromises to explains reads, the shitty explanation that isn't inherently scummy or towny is ommitted.
When asked to expound on aforementioned shitty explanation doesn't want to explainIn post 766, WhemeStar wrote:I don't like explaining things without acces to a computer and I won't until tomorrow