Mini 1881 - Cult of Kira [Game Over!]

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sorry guys I'm busy irl

see you on monday

Wow, such a scum post.

You're clearly scum.

The mod lied.

Lied, I say!

This actually made me wonder if cult couldn't have forged that message at the bottom of the day start, so I checked back over yesterday's votes and everything seems to check out.

682/909/917

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1070 was a tongue in cheek post.

It just got me wondering about the possibility that cult might have been up to shenanigans after the fact.

So I verified. No big deal.

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Somebody call my name?

Oh, hi Varsoon.

VOTE: Elena

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Idk, pretty sure I'm up there too.

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Reads to me like he's using it as cover, and making sure he explains it, whereas in PYP he read like a decent scumhunter who just happened to be a dick as well.

Nah, not really.

I'm pretty much disconnected in this game. Come to think of it, I was even more disconnected in PYP so idkwtf you're even talking about.

Decent scumhunter? In PYP DD? You're on crack.

VOTE: Fish

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Oh yeah, atleast you got Kison, so less bad.

I can't even claim credit for that.

Kison was one of two players my vig would have worked on, and if I'd have shot the other I'd have been lynched afterwards anyway.

There was no deductive reasoning outside of survivalism necessary on my part. The fact I actually agreed with the shot is irrelevant, it was the only realistic one I could take.

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Also, I'll oppose Fishythefish too.

Superb. You should start there because his summary of my PYP DD play was atrocious.

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This is not how town reacts to a freebie from the mod

This is how scum reacts when their agenda just got fucking ruined because of a freebie from the mod

If you weren't mod-confirmed, I'd be voting you so hard right now they'd be indicting me for election fraud.

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If I'm not getting anywhere (and I'm not really trying), should I replace out?

I think you should just tell us who recruited you.

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Lynch priority for me is Varsoon > Creature > others.

I like this post a lot, aside from the first two names.

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Lol

Or maybe I was just throwing out a prodge with zero actual thought behind it because fuck all is happening in this game.

I haven't had an actual opinion here for a long ass time

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Idgaf really. Sling whatever shit you want against the wall.

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One thing that pings me from Elena is the way she assumes that a) the God of Death is the reason we got a kill and b) that that's obvious.

It IS obvious.

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It IS obvious. I'm more concerned with Varsoon & Co. pretending that it's not.

Look at Fishy pretending that it's not.

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I certainly don't think the setup stuff today is obvious enough that it's not worth saying. Cult could easily misjudge how obvious the mechanics they already know are.

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I'm down to lynch 1SVT.

Would he likely antagonize me of all people as the deaths holder, though?

Not that I really care. Scum is Scum.

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I'm down to lynch 1SVT.

Would he likely antagonize me of all people as the death note holder, though?

Not that I really care. Scum is Scum.

And no, v I'm not suggesting I'm some amazing player that could obliterate anyone that pisses me off... but it's undeniable that I am very visible when I'm riled up and that doesn't seem like something a death note holder would provoke because it would also drag them out into the limelight.

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VOTE: 1SVT

That vote doesn't make sense if you are actually looking for the death note holder for reasons I already explained.

If 1SVT is scum,

he's not holding the note

.

VOTE: 1SVT

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VOTE: 1SVT

Don't think he's the holder.
Also, don't act like the mechanics were OBVIOUS when you weren't saying shit about them before I did.

-V

They were so OBVIOUS they didn't really need to be pointed out for towncred.

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Why we don't aim to just lynch recruits? Because as long the death note holder is in a fine position, they can just recruit another player to replace the lynchee.

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VOTE: Elena

Liking this wagon all of a sudden.

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I'm agreeing with Yume. I think the world is on fire.

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VOTE: Elena

Liking this wagon all of a sudden.

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Idk, maybe.

I'm barely even following this game tbh.

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The fact I'm voting Elena should tell you I'm not interested in a CA lynch.

I could get down on a 1SVT lynch, but prefer Elena.

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I knew you cared <3

Frenemies 4evr!

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I'm not going to ask again.

I'll hold you to that.

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You are perceptive.

And you can't ask me not to anymore.

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I'm sure I have a reason around here somewhere.

Hold on, I'll find it.

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I'm agreeing with Yume. I think the world is on fire.

Oh, there it is.

It hurts my head (and my heart) to admit agreeing with Yume, so I am feeling pretty good about my suspicions not simply being confbias.

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Oh shit.

Derp.

VOTE: Crystal Allies

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stop it.

Grey can I have Yume's quote

It was pretty much right above the post I quoted.

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Elena is Kira. RC was recruited. I solved the game. Town, lynch these two if you wanna win.

Chop chop.

- Carnelian

If Elena is Kira, why are you voting RC?

[-Grey-]

I'm very confident in Pea/1shot/Creature though and I honestly thought Creatures Day 1 was super town

I'll only be voting Pea/1shot today and Strongly leaning on Pea

1S was pushing the Crystal lynch, I'd prefer

VOTE: Peabody

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VOTE: Peabody

L-2

I thought I was Scum?

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Lmao. I don't even care.

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Enjoy your tantrum RC.

I'll just report you for playing against wincon after the game is over because this is obviously a spite scumread that is completely unrelated to the actual game.

So you do you, boo.

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Got me dead to rights, ossifer.

It's not like I do that as town like, always.

And it's not like those who have several games with me don't know that.

So that won't justify it.

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So... I'm in the midst of composing a pm, and thought I'd drop these links in here since they're relevant:

Mini Normal 1866
Mini Normal 1866
Newbie 1770
Newbie 1770
Mini Normal 1865

Those are a handful of times that RC has experienced me joking about being Scum as town. And I'm not even done reviewing my history yet.

So... you folks can lynch me based on that all you want, but I'm making it known that there are reasons for it that come from outside of this game.

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RC, you know I'm not scum.

After yesterday, I know you're town.

Let's declare a truce for the duration of this game, for the benefit of the game. Let's put aside the hate just long enough to win this, and part on civil terms.

My vote is yours. I'm not going to be fighting you on lynches. Largely because of my lack of investment in this game, but also because I'm just tired of the conflict.

There's no reason to let things undermine our chances at a win.

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Deflect harder.

There are reasons for VT to crumb PR, and PR to act like VT.

Nothing short of a claim matters. Only scum need to be crumb hunting.

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VOTE: Creature

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Is this logic RC talking or grudgey upset RC
I don't mind both but one is more likely to sway me

I think he'd still be on me if this was grudgey RC.

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But I remember he was pretty town on day 1 though

That doesn't mean much, considering the death note was passed off to a recruit.

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Votecount 3.7

Creature (4) - randomidget, FishytheFish, RadiantCowbells, -Grey-
Peabody (1) - Creature
randomidget (1) - 1 Shot Vanilla Town

Not Voting (3) - Peabody, yessiree, Elena Fisher

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Current deadline is Wednesday, March 29th at 9PM EST.

Mod Notes:

None!

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and also you're forgetting the one I want is 1svt

Yeah... no.

[-Grey-]

1SVT wanted to lynch me because I wasn't in the CA wagon.

If he's cult, he was recruited last night and does not hold the note.

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Not biting.

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Fishy, why would you check 1Shot, who actively pushed a cult lynch, over me, a player you admittedly can't read AND was a latecomer to the wagon?

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I'll probably end listing this game as broken because I simply doubt we can win other than getting lucky.

dont distract us, Creature, CA is L-1 here

This also supports a Creature scum read.

He saw his buddy going down and basically gave up.

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@Grey - 541 - What convinced you to hop off CA?

Finally dawned on me what RC was telling me, obviously.

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@Grey - 541 - What convinced you to hop off CA?

Finally dawned on me what RC was telling me, obviously.

Sorry, read off as on.

Read the fucking post man. It's obvious.

[-Grey-]

Peabody or -Grey-

Who's most likely scum?

You.

But my reads are irrelevant. I'm sheeping RC for the duration of the game.

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Votecount 3.8

Creature (4) - randomidget, FishytheFish, RadiantCowbells, -Grey-
Peabody (1) - Creature
randomidget (1) - 1 Shot Vanilla Town

Not Voting (3) - Peabody, yessiree, Elena Fisher

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Current deadline is Wednesday, March 29th at 9PM EST.

Mod Notes:

None!

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Even if RC votes you?

Don't be a dick.

I'll just invite whomever I'm voting until he votes someone else.

[-Grey-]

Even if RC votes you?

Don't be a dick.

I'll just unvote whomever I'm voting until he votes someone else.

Sigh. Edit.

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N2: Tried to recruit Grey.

Why would you do that? Lol.

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I was way too apathetic this game to survive as scum.

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Idk why your attempt failed, I was just a Citizen.

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Sorry. I buy his story about it being game over because he gave up long before he was wagoned.

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Good, another townslip.

I townslip more as scum than town.

It's awesome.

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Look at the bright side, RC.

1532 makes me an inarguably good lynch tomorrow.

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Sheeping RC, unless he wants to lynch me. In which case I'll just not vote unless he decides to vote elsewhere.

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7) -Grey- Day 1) Town Day 2) Town Day 3) Town Day 4) ????

I'm just sheeping RC for the remainder of the game in the best interests of town.

If I ever refuse to sheep him, lynch me because I've been recruited and sheeping him would be playing against my win con if he's voting cult.

There's how you can read me from now until the game is over.

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I think if RC is lying the real masons would have outted him.

+1

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dw I won't lynch you today just say that you're scum and that I caught you so I can flex my ego

Lol.

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I'm kind of stuck on thinking Grey's sheep is a cover for DN.

My sheep is for reasons between RC and I that you don't need to worry about.

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Well... there's a duh moment.

I just realized who else was police.

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I have been townreading 1Shot for being on the right side of the Crystal Allies/Elena dipole, but if he was holding the note that was some easy towncred.

Him or RM are ideal for today imho. Still voting wherever RC does, though.

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Relax, 1Shot. I'm no threat to you.

Just figured I'd chip in some analysis even though I fully expect it to be ignored so I can at least say I tried.

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I think I'd have been a shit recruit this game due to my apathy anyway, but eh.

I just kinda flipped a switch on this game after the d1 drama and tuned out for the most part.

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Yeah, I'm not a fan of that interpretation of the rules.

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I think I'd have been a shit recruit this game due to my apathy anyway, but eh.

I just kinda flipped a switch on this game after the d1 drama and tuned out for the most part.

What do you think caused the flipped switch?

Was I not clear?

T h e d r a m a.

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3) Peabody
5) RadiantCowbells
6) Elena Fisher
9) 1 Shot Vanilla Town
10) yessiree
11) FishytheFish
12) randomidget

All three scum has to be within {1SVT, Midget, Peabody, yessiree}

yessiree, if scum, can't be holding the note today.

Note holder is most likely one of {Midget, 1SVT}

... and I have no fucking idea why I don't have an opinion on Peabody outside of the lack of a townread.

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yessiree, if scum, can't be holding the note today.

Why?

If he was recruited, it had to have been done n2 or later.

Cult lost a member d3.

They needed to recruit n3 to offset the damage, and thus couldn't have passed the note.

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Strange, I figured my opinion would be the last one you'd care about.

Okay.

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My guess the original note holder is between Creature, RC,

Grey

, and Fishy.

Why would you have me listed as a possiblity of being the original note holder when you were reading me as town, and staunchly defending that read, up to post 1033 or so?

I could see you thinking that I might have been recruited, maybe, but that post does not vibe with your argument with me about why you were so convinced I was town.

[-Grey-]

1shottown breadcrumbed cop day 1

Where?

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Btw RC, here's my reads

Town
RC
Elena
Grey
Fishy

Scum
Random (Spoiler - DN holder)
Peabody

If 3 scum
Yessiree

If yessiree was recruited n2, wouldn't he be the likeliest note holder?

Which of the three slots are the likeliest pregame recruit, knowing Varsoon was the original Kira? Who would Varsoon be most likely to entrust the game to?

Who has the reads they are likely to draw the least amount of scrutiny?

I'm not asking because I suspect you, I'm asking because I'm interested in your opinions now that I'm coming around to a townread on you.

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Cool, I'm good with that.

Prefer Random lynch, other Scum include Peabody and yessiree.

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^ That's some funny shit.

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My guess the original note holder is between Creature, RC,

Grey

, and Fishy.

Why would you have me listed as a possiblity of being the original note holder when you were reading me as town, and staunchly defending that read, up to post 1033 or so?

I could see you thinking that I might have been recruited, maybe, but that post does not vibe with your argument with me about why you were so convinced I was town.

1shottown breadcrumbed cop day 1, and then said you were town. I assumed you were a pregame investigation, but I began to lose faith 1shot was cop because Elena, who I also thought was cop, suspected him.

The mind changing occurred during reskims.

Not really buying this, buddy.

@Grey, I find it hard to believe that a person acting as erratically as you being a cult member. At least as of yesterday. I'm having a hard time keeping up with the fact we're dealing with cult rather than mafia.

@Grey, I find it hard to believe that a person acting as erratically as you being a cult member. At least as of yesterday.

Whereas, I've been the picture of consistency today.

Uh-huh.

No. I'm referencing WIFOM jokes, aggressive/AtE behavior, threatening to gamethrow. I guess 'inconsistent' isn't the word I'm looking for. More... nonchalant and less calculated.

I'm not claiming to be Professor -Grey-... Although you should look into becoming a professor.

I'm basing my analysis on my experience, not on your meta.

Truth is, I actually have no idea how to read you. If you were the average person, I'm saying you're probably town. I'm not comparing scum!grey to town!grey. You're the kind of player that is difficult to read because of the reasons I listed above. I don't see scum acting like that. Which is why I town read you. Why are you so up in arms about how I read you?

Ninja: Then I don't understand what you mean.

That's part of the reason why I think you're town.

Doesn't read like "maybe town because of investigation" to me.

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Votecount 4.10

randomidget (1) - 1 Shot Vanilla Town

Not Voting (7) - Elena Fisher, randomidget, FishytheFish, RadiantCowbells, -Grey-, yessiree, Peabody

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Current deadline is Monday, April 3rd at 9PM EDT.

Mod Notes:

None!

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Peabody, I can't picture the same player that makes such insightful declarations about behavior as 1002, 1005, 1009, 1012, and 1013 turning around and making such sophomoric leaps of logic as your 1773.

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Can ppl start posting so we can get on with the phase?

Be the change you want to see in the world.

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Can ppl start posting so we can get on with the phase?

Be the change you want to see in the world.

I've said my piece.

Then obviously, so have "people".

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VOTE: Peabody

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fishy is friend. if fishy has a result tomorrow fishy gets sheeped btw.

I've known that since your 1488.

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For hitting scum, yes.

For hitting note holder, no.

[-Grey-]

Elena is scum

we can consider voting elsewhere to try to hit DN holder but

No, I think we should lynch Elena, just pointing out the obvious that we shouldn't be holding our breath on a DN flip considering she saw this coming.

[-Grey-]

I have no idea where that question even comes from.

I believe there to be more than just Elena as cult, hence Elena not likely to be the DN holder. As far as how many more, I have no fucking idea because it kinda depends on whether scum tried to recruit a cop or not.

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I have no idea where that question even comes from.

I believe there to be more than just Elena as cult, hence Elena not likely to be the DN holder. As far as how many more, I have no fucking idea because it kinda depends on whether scum tried to recruit a cop or not.

Well lets put it this way. If there's 3 cult, we want to lynch to DN holder or most likely lose tomorrow.
I wanted to know what your opinion was on the situation for you to go "Meh, lynch someone without the DN".

That post is atrociously bad.

Elena is confirmed scum. If there is a total of three cult, lynching her brings scum down to two and extends the time we have to find the note holder while also cornering cult into committing more night actions we can use to find them.

If there are three cult, the WORST thing we can do is not lynch​ Elena, because guessing wrong on DN holder can very easily cost us the game.

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Oh right. Cult. Recruit. Duh.

Nvm.

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lol no the recruit thing was a joke. we investigated you because of the 'Peabody is police!' bullshit that you used to avoid pushing on him even though you'd been pushing on him the whole game

Well you should have investigated without the joke, because I bet she had the note until last night.

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Oh look.

RC faking a guilty.

He, like, never does that.

Must be on Scum

VOTE: yessirree

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Dammit 1SVT, you missed your chance to be the cool kids and quick-hammer for glory.

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failure to unvote will be interpreted as a scumclaim

Oh, so your guilty was fake?

It's almost like I knew that!

UNVOTE:

You're too predictable these days, RC.

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I'm confused as to why you thought that Elena was scum enough to believe that guilty but you disbelieved the guilty on Yessirrree

yet you were willing to bring Yessiree to L-1.

I've told you days ago. I'm your +1.

Where you vote, I vote. I don't have to believe you or even agree with you.

[-Grey-]

Because I'd absolutely be holding the note, knowing that confirmed town RC has blood lust in his eyes to kill me.

Totally makes sense.

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Because I'd absolutely be holding the note, knowing that confirmed town RC has blood lust in his eyes to kill me.

Totally makes sense.

So will you vote Elena then?

I'm voting whomever RC wants lynched, aside from myself for obvious reasons.

The crayons have already had a piss fit over me self-voting, I don't care to go down that road again.

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Because I'd absolutely be holding the note, knowing that confirmed town RC has blood lust in his eyes to kill me.

Totally makes sense.

did you just imply that you have the ability to hold the note?

because the premise of that is that you are cult

I implied that even if you scumread me, it's fucking stupid to push me as the note holder when RC wants me dead.

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I'm town, but I stopped giving much of a shit weeks ago.

Lynch away.

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Grey hasn't been in a position to defend

That's kinda why I wouldn't have the note, isn't it?

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Grey hasn't been in a position to defend

That's kinda why I wouldn't have the note, isn't it?

"I don't care if I get lynched, but here I am posting at opportune times to re-iterate how I can't have the DN"

I'm still going to call out stupidity.

If you're going to lynch me, don't base it on obviously bad shit.

[-Grey-]

fuck you

you are in no position to call out anything after you announced you shitty little defeatist stance

Tough shit.

You not liking it just makes me more interested in doing it.

[-Grey-]

Lulz

[-Grey-]

*coast*

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but then again it could just be him not giving a shit

Pretty much.

I mean, I'm just sitting here waiting to be told who to vote, pretty much, and nothing is happening.

I'd prefer to lynch yessiree at this point, if me saying that means anything to you.

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VOTE: Random

[-Grey-]

I think it's random/grey with random holder atm.

Considering we're happy to see each other dead, I think you're wrong.

[-Grey-]

Why you would you care if RC is wrong if he's voting who you want dead?

If his theory is flawed, it's obviously best to point it out.

[-Grey-]

can everyone please just unvote

Make up my mind.

UNVOTE:

I have no problem with voting anyone in the game aside from RC, fish, and myself.

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VOTE: random
It's random/yes
with yes holder but I can do this

Oh excuse me there is prob only 1 cult.
This is still okay

If there is only one cult according to your theory, why are you okay with voting a player that you do not believe to be the note holder?

[-Grey-]

Echo... echo... echo...

[-Grey-]

Notice how I put you in my lynch pool for a reason as in you could be scum.

"people die if they are killed"

Pics or it didn't happen.

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Votecount 5.9

-Grey- (1) - randomidget
yessiree (1) - Elena Fisher

Not Voting (5) - FishytheFish, yessiree, 1 Shot Vanilla Town, RadiantCowbells, -Grey-

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Current deadline is Wednesday, April 20th at 9PM EDT.

Mod Notes:

None!

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I didn't even know Snarky was in this game, lol.

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I didn't even know Snarky was in this game, lol.

they arent

Then maybe you should stop counting them.

[-Grey-]

*shrug*

At least this will be one less game to follow.

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Just Lulu me, I'm through with this game.

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Lynch* lol

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Pretty sure it's game over when I die, isn't it?

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Oh. Guess not.

Whatever my last reads were, go with that.

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but confirms him as scum

Lol

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Votecount 5.10

-Grey- (2) - randomidget, RadiantCowbells
yessiree (1) - Elena Fisher

Not Voting (4) - FishytheFish, yessiree, 1 Shot Vanilla Town, -Grey-

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Current deadline is Wednesday, April 20th at 9PM EDT.

Mod Notes:

None!

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How many votes on Grey?

I'm not hammered yet.

What are you going to do about it?

[-Grey-]

It's proven that I can't be either the original DN holder or the first recruit.

Anybody that thinks I was recruited after d1 deserves the loss.

[-Grey-]

Still rather lynch yessiree, but I'll vote whomever RC does.

[-Grey-]

VOTE: randomidget

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1) mason claims can't (near impossible) be challenged

Untrue. Titus literally engineered a quicklynch on a mason the Day after they claimed in Kuroi's WWE theme.

[-Grey-]

Semi-Open... but granted, police being mod-confirmed pretty much guaranteed they were Masons because cult that couldn't be recruited seems kinda bastardly.

That said, I wouldn't put it past Titus to be able to mislynch one of them anyway, if she had been scum.

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Yeah, town was stacked no doubt.