Mini 1901 - over

[Firebringer]

Hi guys, I am scum.
How you all doing?

[Firebringer]

technically I'm not town though - just getting that out of the way

Want to scum block?

[Firebringer]

It is time to begin!

Today's item:

Lifedrinker Blade

Gain the following action:
Lifedrink: Target a player at night. If they die this night, you require 1 more vote to be lynched tomorrow.

The player who places the hammer vote will receive this item.

With 13 alive it's 7 to lynch!

Day ends in (expired on 2017-04-22 16:00:00)

I declare myself the hammer voter.

[Firebringer]

That item is useless by the way

Your face is uselesz

yeah

this tactical lurking is something he likes to do a lot as scum

I have never tactical lurked as scum and for Dunnstral to claim such is laughable and more to the point he would know better. It's not something that I do at all.

Town!Dunn never makes this claim.

VOTE: Dunnstral

Rc is trying to lynch scum.
That means he is scum, right?

Rc scum are working together this game.
Join us to victory!

[Firebringer]

Scum are so divided right now.
VOTE: toogeloo

[Firebringer]

Who will win. RC or Dunn

In the end it doesn't even matter-Linkin park

[Firebringer]

How much does classes matter, should we claim this early?
I kind of don't think so but I kind of want to anyways.
M

[Firebringer]

Spoiler: I am from drealmerz home site.

[Firebringer]

Thank you thank you.

[Firebringer]

I rolled a dice, it said you were Town rc.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: firebringer

he's scum, let's vote to lynch and move on to the next Day

dunnstral, if you're going to claim like that, how about you actually claim instead of that lame-assweak shit you're doing?

Ohhh shit.
Drealmerz figured me out.

[Firebringer]

I can't believe I actually thought you might be a good player at one point in time, fb

you're just a fucking useless troll, and you can die

Ummmm what?

[Firebringer]

......

[Firebringer]

Firebringer it's bad because you could be SO GOOD if you tried harder

Yeah I suck.
I should quit mafia and kill myself.

I am worthless


(since no one will get it, this is joke)

[Firebringer]

need me to repeat it again?

One more time might not hurt.
Give it a go.

[Firebringer]

Dreal honestly don't know how serious your being or if your just trying to push my buttons, your never going to make me consider the early game serious.

[Firebringer]

I feel like you're pushing my buttons, fb, intentionally, and it pisses me off

why is the early game not serious? because you make it not serious, that is the only reason

So you think, I came into this game, thinking "dreal hates people being not serious" I will do just that!

The early game is not serious because there's nothing to talk about. The only thing worthy of talking about is the item, and now this drama you are trying to create.

[Firebringer]

who benefits from making the game not serious? scum

only scum

VOTE: Drealmerz

[Firebringer]

I have serious vote on drealmerz

[Firebringer]

How did I start shit again?
Maybe I am pretty stupid but I don't think I said you were worthless and should die.

[Firebringer]

is this how I come across in mafia games sometimes?

A few notches removed. If that makes sense

[Firebringer]

I kind of think dreal might as scum do this 1v1 with me preemptively because I have had bad habit of FoS him in games because I disagree with his reasonings and think he is backwards approach to games is scummy.

Weak meta argument.

[Firebringer]

how is my approach to games backwards?

why do you think I'm scum?

Because you still don't understand how people play here.

And I think your scum because your push on me is filled with non indicative stuff and you trying to make it out to be something is ridiculous given your experience with me.

[Firebringer]

Let's have a new strat where all mass claim and then sort out the liars

You first.

[Firebringer]

Let's have a new strat where all mass claim and then sort out the liars

You first.

Apparently I'm a growlithe

I cc your claim.

[Firebringer]

Because you still don't understand how people play here.

you realize that this is a generalization and you saying this is kind of like "hey let's force EVERY SINGLE PERSON TO PLAY THE SAME" ??? scummy

again, explain to me how your other posts are pro-town and I'll be open to understanding your view

saying "hey I'm scum let's scumblock" is pro-town how?

What?

Dude you are telling me how to play in your own posts....
I am not even saying to play differently I am saying too look at game differently.

[Firebringer]

I'm just gonna lurk until all this blows under none of this is fun or useful to read.

How dare you accuse me of not being fun.

I bet you are a pidgey

[Firebringer]

Spoiler: pidgey

[Firebringer]

my intention was simply to call him scum for making posts that I thought were scummy and useless for town and were bad content, that is all, really

ok, so

fb, can I give you a hug and let's start over?

Ehhh sure.
But just so you know I am carrying a dagger.
And your wallet might go missing.

Dreal is town btw.

You are such a pidgey.

[Firebringer]

RadiantCowbells is town btw.

[Firebringer]

not at all, I really don't ever intend to be that way, I felt like I was being goaded by fb

pings for you a little for being so decided so early

speaking of which

UNVOTE: firebringer

so you don't have a scum read on me?

[Firebringer]

VOTE: WhemeStar

I townread firebringer and elena

maybe drealmerz, it will become apparent soon probably

Why do you townread me?

[Firebringer]

so you don't have a scum read on me?

scumlean on you and it is wayyy too early to keep a vote on you for it

Ummm no it isn't.....you don't even have a vote somewhere else....

[Firebringer]

We are a block.

[Firebringer]

I am visiting him for things.

[Firebringer]

I am still coming to visit.

[Firebringer]

Hey toog what's up?

Rc you feeling better today btw?

[Firebringer]

@drealmerz - did you commit to firing shots at Firebringer before the game started? This seems to be typical Firebringer, and considering you two have history, it makes me feel as though you either, A) are sick of his playstyle and decided to just cut into it immediately, of B) planned this out ahead of time, in which case I can definitely see scum motivation more than I can see town motivation. I am also not convinced that you scum lean Firebringer but don't want to keep a vote on him "at this point of the game."

In post 46, Dunnstral wrote:
technically I'm not town though - just getting that out of the way

This needs explanation, like in the same post would have been ideal. If you are not town, you need to be lynched. Even if you are a Survivor, you are not guaranteed to help town out in the least.


Finally...
I have a passive called "chaotic neutral," that causes me to scan as not aligned with town, however I am in fact aligned with town. This is my first time drawing a Miller role, and it is my understanding that it needs to be presented early (like first post early), but I do not wish to further expand upon my role at this time.

This sounds weird I don't think my role card even had an alignement.....
I guess it's a vonflare game tho.

[Firebringer]

Holy shit I am lynch proof.

[Firebringer]

This sounds weird I don't think my role card even had an alignement.....

So you aren't aligned with town or scum?

No I meant it doesn't say dnd alignment types.

[Firebringer]

I am visiting him for things.

let's visit him for things together

Sounds like a plan.

[Firebringer]

Fire/Drealmerz7 are probably scumpartners who planned this before the game to be honest

No, I am scum with Dunnstral.
Scared that I am lynch proof for once?

[Firebringer]

Why would you get lynched?

[Firebringer]

Dunnstral let us play a game of chess in here.

I will get us a board.

[Firebringer]

Postie!

[Firebringer]

Now that I have your attention rc, I have I told you about our savior Annie.

[Firebringer]

I wish I had a day vig

[Firebringer]

nope, and I only know why toog thinks I might be

Fb and RC have not made it clear to me why they think I might be

I've addressed multiple points to what I think RC is trying to push me as scum for but he's not responded

and Fb didn't respond to the 1 point I raised to him I don't think

I explained my reasoning for thinking your scum.

What point didn't I respond to?

[Firebringer]

Hey that's my line!
Not much my man, need to sleep actually.
Lol dnd threw out my whole sleeping arrangement into whack.

[Firebringer]

What you up to?

[Firebringer]

Many people don't respond when I ask that question too.

[Firebringer]

Reads spew right now:

Town: dunnstral, RadiantCowbells
Scum: dreal

Everyone else is meh.

Tywin maybe scum.

[Firebringer]

Why are people townreading Elena again?

[Firebringer]

I don't scumread edo

I'm pretty sure drealmerz is town here and will argue against that lynch

I disagree with this, but I also have a pretty bad track record on dreal.

I could see this being his town game, but idk.
Sometimes I think I just scumread his style, but I honestly can't see difference in his scum and town games....

[Firebringer]

I've probably read like three of dreal posts and he like "this isn't something a reasonable person would say as scum right?"
Then I look at his scum game and I think again "yep he has done that"

[Firebringer]

vonflare is town

Why didn't you use 141 to complain about other folks posting their townreads?

What do you mean here?

[Firebringer]

Ohh wait we were trolling.
I think you missed the context/situation there

[Firebringer]

UNVOTE:

Dreal can wait. I think there is bigger fish out there, and I am going to steal them.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Farside

Hey farside been awhile, how you doing?
What kind of party did you go to?

Also what does your role name rhyme with?

[Firebringer]

Just going to remind everyone of this tidbit...

technically I'm not town though - just getting that out of the way

This needs explanation

I'm actually going to retcon that and say I'm town

Why do you think that's noteworthy?

[Firebringer]

Also what does your role name rhyme with?

seriously? this slot has to die before we get close to the end of the game

That's my plan.

[Firebringer]

Can you stop suggesting I get modkilled for not playing this game how you want me to play it?
I believe this is second time in this game.

[Firebringer]

nah, I share my thoughts, can't help if it bothers you, it's not like I'm doing it to bother you, I'm simply letting my position known

It's not really about bothering me tbh.

I just know as a mod I get irritated when someone is telling me how to run a game, which includes replacing someone or modkilling theM.

[Firebringer]

Wait how was I harassing dreal?

[Firebringer]

People that think I'm scum here, especially those that have seen my town and scum games, are either purposely giving a wrong read for obviously non-town reasons, or they're just not good at reads in general. I won't be lynched regardless, because I'm town, have a role town won't lynch, and am usually always proven right with my early reads as town. The only way scum legitimately get rid of me is pushing for a D1 lynch on me, because after my reads flip, I become practically unlynchible. A few of the players here know this.

This just sounds scummy as shit.

[Firebringer]

Tywin, i am fairly confident that you won't gather enough traction to lynch me. More or less the same reasons that you mention about yourself. So, i am not gonna defend myself. But i was wondering about what you said about knowing me. Have we played in a game where I was a scum? Which behaviour of mine reminded you of the scum!me?

Why are you posting like this?

[Firebringer]

Hey fire.
This is dnd game. I remember doing vampire and we talked about joining the campaign, some gamers referred to being in the group as a party.
But that's my normal hey I'm hear and I'm late entrance.
I just felt like trivia geeking.
Can I just say clan? Idk if it matters. My hubby would hate my role in a rl dnd. I'm pretty meh about it myself.

Trivia geeking?
How does your husband hate any role in dnd? Unless it's something like monk. Monk seems boring dnd class.

[Firebringer]

Tywin, how was I harassing dreal?

[Firebringer]

I think he is still alive.

[Firebringer]

can you not do those things?

[Firebringer]

just take a break from this game then man.

[Firebringer]

u realize this behavior is destructive to game state right?

[Firebringer]

no interesting in trying to work with anyone, and is just pushing his agenda so he can try and control the game-state

you just described stuff not alignment indicative for rc.

[Firebringer]

Not into this game right now, not you guys, its me.
Will try to commit time another time. Maybe that other time.

[Firebringer]

hey rc

[Firebringer]

rc, what you up to tonight?

[Firebringer]

who you voting wheme?

[Firebringer]

toogeloo kinda towntelling fmpov though so I wanna do this and if I unvote peregrine to sheep you people will just end up voting you

this makes absolutely no sense man.

[Firebringer]

maybe but you know that if I'm scum I can make a reason that makes sense so perhaps I simply don't want to give the real answer

huh? I guess....

[Firebringer]

you could be just lazy scum though rc.
going by "you would understand what I am saying if I am scum"

[Firebringer]

How do you vote the person that you just said is NAI unless your scum trying to act like your doing stuff

Or he is just not that involved with the game? But his posts give impression he is trying at same time he is not trying.

[Firebringer]

when tf am i ever lazy scum
when tf do I ever pull threats like that as scum

this game is clear town and I will gladly lynch you if you try to suggest otherwise

yeah you always say your lock town though.
not sure how this game is any different.

the threats are as likely as scum, but maybe not like the way you do it here.
you might be more charismatic as scum than town.

[Firebringer]

His reason for voting him was

"He's playing the same way as both town and scum"

Since when is that a reason to vote someone?!??!

When you have no scum reads imo

[Firebringer]

Pretty sure Wheme is town here.

[Firebringer]

I also think Toog is town.

Tywin and alban are the only ones really pinging me in this game.

[Firebringer]

I don't think too is same kind of player as me though.

[Firebringer]

I am more bugged by alban this game than Tywin.
VOTE: Alban

Questions for Alban:
What do you think about Tywin as of this moment?
What do you think of Wheme x Toog?
What do you think of RC x Dreal?

[Firebringer]

I'm just saying that scum can claim miller. It's been done before

Yeah, I don't think we should rule him out for claim. Thats not really indicative, i just think its less likely toog would do it as scum. My experience with him as scum is he plays it closer to the ground and more safe.

Miller is pretty shitty thing to claim as scum tbh.
I do it because no one expects it, while still knowing its not optimal play.

[Firebringer]

In my last game with toog, he also was kind of same way he was here and got pressured for it.
He was a mason.

And basically had to out the other mason as a result.

[Firebringer]

Fire are you scum bro

No

[Firebringer]

I am obvious town.

[Firebringer]

a better way would be?

[Firebringer]

if you claim miller right when someone has a guilty on you.....9 times out of ten you get lynched....

[Firebringer]

if you claim miller right when someone has a guilty on you.....9 times out of ten you get lynched....

I can show you the world

Is it a whole new world?

[Firebringer]

I will counter ur claim by saying i am a reverse cop and can only get reverse results.

gg

[Firebringer]

Alright fine
VOTE: PeregrineV

[Firebringer]

Dreal vs rc is stupid.
Stop cluttering up the thread with it

[Firebringer]

Dreal vs rc is stupid.
Stop cluttering up the thread with it

Fire this is exactly how you tend to react when I push on your scumpartners.

This is how you react when your being ridiculous.
You think calling me scum will convince me that I should vote dreal?

[Firebringer]

You'd have easier chance lynching me right now than dreal.
But you haven't voted me once. Why is that?

[Firebringer]

Because you don't have a scumread on me.
You just calling me scum cause I don't agree with you, and you know you calling me scum will bug me.

Stop trying to manipulate me.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Firebringer

this is scum.

*applauds*

I called you out on not ever voting me, so you vote me.
Nice work.

[Firebringer]

Fire/Drealmerz7 are probably scumpartners who planned this before the game to be honest

Fire's scum guys. =]

Your not going to get a reaction from me friendo.

[Firebringer]

If your scum, you want to piss me off so I vote with you.
If your town, you want to piss me off so I am obv town.

You get neither =]

[Firebringer]

I am not trying to drag you into drama. I just know you are forcing a false dichotomy of that dreal has to be the lynch.
I don't agree with you buddy.

Sorry to tell you that.

[Firebringer]

RC, want to work with me today, and ill be much more open to working with you tomorrow?
I am not going to lynch dreal today.

I think thats bad, but I want to move forward with the game.

[Firebringer]

I'd probably support a Fire lynch. He's definitely antagonizing and yet being highly defensive at the same time.

What? How?

[Firebringer]

why not just flipping PV?

[Firebringer]

Fuck off.
If I am scum, what good will my answers be to you? Why will I give you answers to further your clarity on all the players you have mentioned?
I am annoyed that you would not even present your case. Instead you have convicted me and now asking questions. tbh, this is scummy.

What..........

I asked you questions and you countered me with questions.
What good is your questions if you think my post is scummy? (Wow I turned that around on you!)

I am not sold on you being scum, that is why I asked those questions.

[Firebringer]

[Firebringer]

What do you think of Firebringer's noise posts that also constitute practically nothing to the game?

How exactly am I adding noise to the game?

[Firebringer]

I'd probably support a Fire lynch. He's definitely antagonizing and yet being highly defensive at the same time.

What? How?

You never answered this either toog.

[Firebringer]

How exactly am I adding noise to the game?

Your high post count combined with very little content. E.g. your unnecessary YouTube video. You are antagonistic because you appear to be trying to rile other players up, and I called you defensive because the moment they call you out on it, you go into survival mode.


PV hit L-1 and posted during that time, but very little had to do with his wagon analysis or current scum reads. He posted some content, but it was mostly just so that we knew he existed, and now that people are getting off of him, his post count is climbing and he's engaging in conversations more.

Point to where I am riling people up?

[Firebringer]

I read your 592-594 as taking jabs at RC, especially since he never called you scum. And if I'm not mistaken, you only fueled the fire of when drealmerz initially came at you in the beginning of the game and RC and drealmerz started their 1v1 bout.

I don't honestly know how you can have these opinions of this...

[Firebringer]

It's Annie avi!

[Firebringer]

i am going to back burner this game awhile.
I'll be here on Monday hopefully.

[Firebringer]

I have medium size d, how would that work in text format?

[Firebringer]

I am sending that to potential romantic partners

[Firebringer]

Hey funnstral

[Firebringer]

Firebringer what are your thoughts on 738 after the game with Aneninen?

Who is anenin?

[Firebringer]

When I said 620 above I mean 621.

@Fire, you never continued that discussion. Do you have a good reason for that?

I'm still considering things/gonna post more. Can someone come

converse

with me.

What discussion?

[Firebringer]

This RC x dreal shit needs to end.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: drealmerz

[Firebringer]

all I'm doing is pushing my top SR and telling why

he's just raging to kill me, why vote me instead of him?

you scum read rc because he scum reads you is what i have been getting at.
you typically omgus scum read people who scum read you so normally thats null.

i think rc has put more into thought into why you are scum versus you on him. I think your both probably town here, but at this point I have given up on trying to be the voice of reason.

for some reason multiple people in this game are saying i am starting fights or something. I hope this game will be solved more with night actions than with day play, because the day play has been gross so far.

[Firebringer]

1.) you scum read rc because he scum reads you is what i have been getting at.

2.) i think rc has put more into thought into why you are scum versus you on him.

1.) what crack are you smoking and what game are you reading?

2.) what crack are you smoking and what game are you reading?

some pretty good crack tbh.

[Firebringer]

@Fire

That was rhetorical. I wasn't expecting any answers. So, you didn't turn around anything.
Before I answer your questions, I wanna know your points for voting me.

Please ignore dreal/RC. It's not helpful to deal with them right now.

@Fire
I think you missed this with the new pagetop.

no, i got that. they aren't dropping it at all, no matter how many people tell them not to.
we have to deal with it because it hasn't ended this whole game so far.

[Firebringer]

...but it also serves my point that you were paying attention to the vote count, hand waved the pressure until it dropped out of the red zone and then started posting more. The fact that you keep jibing me about it shows you were paying attention and waited for the momentum shift.

?????

[Firebringer]

I don't think i ever lay low....unless i am not feeling up for mafia..

[Firebringer]

Yeah I kind of didn't feel like continuing that with Alban...

[Firebringer]

I love you all, I am going back to other stuff.
If drealxrc stops being a thing I'll move votes but I don't see it ever happening

[Firebringer]

Hey gawd, my name is growlithe, but everyone around here calls me firebringer, how goes it?

[Firebringer]

Radiant want some fun nostalgia?
About two years ago I joined site.
One of first I'd 5 games you were in one of my games.

You were using that avatar.
I thought you were scum in that game and you thought I was cop so you might killed me.
Good times

[Firebringer]

Really?

[Firebringer]

wheme, Fb, RC, all scumtastic so far

How is wheme scumtastic?

[Firebringer]

I really think Drealmerz7 is scum her.e

What a shocking turn of events!

I loled

[Firebringer]

Not really, no.

[Firebringer]

Pretty sure Wheme is town here.

[Firebringer]

Alban/edo/dreal

One of those.

[Firebringer]

Talk to me about edo



and Alban

Edo just feels like he is just swinging at whatever comes his way, I don't understand this new farside vote, I don't understand why he invited toog, even though I don't scumread toog I thought his unvote was weird.

Alban also feels weird this game, like super sure of himself and very cocky, which I think is posturing that is fake in nature, which gives me scum feels.

[Firebringer]

Pretty sure toog is mislynch bait here.
Anyone up for alban lynch?

[Firebringer]

rc, why does it feel like your avoiding me friendo?

[Firebringer]

well i think ur scum so

so you won't engage in me with me at all?
since when do you shut out from talking to scum reads?

[Firebringer]

well i think ur scum so

so you won't engage with me at all?
since when do you shut out from talking to scum reads?

Fixed

[Firebringer]

ummm alban.....

[Firebringer]

Fire is being weird too. Though I am not able to pinpoint on the reason. His posts are very short and there's not much to analyse.

I think i have quite enough content to analyze.

[Firebringer]

probably should just drop it.

[Firebringer]

Edo just feels like he is just swinging at whatever comes his way, I don't understand this new farside vote, I don't understand why he invited toog, even though I don't scumread toog I thought his unvote was weird.

How is this scummy by the way

"Swinging at whatever comes his way" - does that mean he's scummy? Why?

yes that means he is scummy.
because i don't think he is focused on anything.

[Firebringer]

Toog do you mind claiming flavor

No. I see no benefit to doing so since claiming my Class will almost assuredly tell people what my role in the game may or may not be, and I don't see the need for that yet. I'm even hesitant to state my Race as I'm not sure if there might be info involved in divulging that.

Hey fire Mind explaining why a Miller claim would say this

because theirs more to his role than miller and he only explained the negative utility...

[Firebringer]

I'd argue that it's easier to get focused on something as scum early on

What say you

id say town nitpick posts more than scum? scum try to test field on all their options, which is what ego feels like he is doing more so?

Town tunnels more than scum. scum are more broad.

[Firebringer]

agree to disagree then.

[Firebringer]

Idk fire this game looks kinda like you're voting someone for the sake of voting someone

Ummmmmmm.....

Are you serious?

[Firebringer]

Good thing I don't play ongoing games!

[Firebringer]

Null town.
I think one of alban and tywin are scum and I think it's alban.

I think I said this like ten pages ago

[Firebringer]

The miller claim isn't the issue it's the player who claimed miller. Does anyone tr the panda?

I've said this like five times.
Yes

[Firebringer]

Reading is hard too.

[Firebringer]

The miller claim isn't the issue it's the player who claimed miller. Does anyone tr the panda?

I've said this like five times.
Yes

Do you town read him because of his Miller claim? Because you've already mentioned you do it as scum.

And if not that....why the tr? Seems like you aren't on the same wavelength as Toog.

I townread him by play, but I also don't think toog would claim Miller as scum so claim a little

[Firebringer]

And is Toog not capable of fakeclaiming Miller as scum like others do...including yourself?

you understand there being a difference between being capable and actually performing a task right?
like, for instance.

I am capable of jumping off a bridge.
Am I going to do it? Unlikely.

[Firebringer]

can and would are two different things....

[Firebringer]

are you trying to convince me that he is going to fake claim just because he can throw together the words "I am miller"
cause like....thats now how people operate...

[Firebringer]

last town game i had with toog it was basically like this, toog had shitty opinions, we pushed him for lynch, and he claimed masons day 1. So like, yes. I think just because I don't understand him, doesn't mean he is scum. Maybe thats wrong mindset, but idc.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: aristophanes

[Firebringer]

No

[Firebringer]

scum are clearly avoiding your wagon but luckily this lobby's a bunch of braindead fucks who think that their reads are on par with mine

I accept my lack of brain activity.
What's new with you man?

[Firebringer]

I am never going to vote beside Drealmerz7 and I learn everyone who targetted me if I am saved from a nightkill.

Yeah I get that about you not moving your vote

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Dreal this is the lynch

How I feel right now...

I feel similarly, if I knew what this feeling in this gif described

[Firebringer]

ANother way of asking: are YOU guys willing to risk a no lynch by not following me on Drealmerz7?

I am

[Firebringer]

Why the fuck are we discussing what a bard does when that doesn't matter for whether dreal is town or scum?

couldn't agree more with this.

[Firebringer]

only if you join me.

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Just want to point out that I scumread the shit out of Firebringer and I tracked Edosurist

Drealmerz7 was my only wrong scumread.

I was not trying to be townie at all.

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Not sure on how.

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Modding things for this:
Vonflare I think you should get a co-mod in future games to help you out with interacts/double check the work and stuff. I think this is become a normal problem with you, and think it could be fixed pretty easily.

Another thing, when you are doing role madness, I don't need a "full flip", but like. I have no idea what Whemes or PergrineV roles did when they died, I don't understand reasoning on this, and you did it a lot in your games.