Will unvote with promise I never have to capitalize that correctly ever again.
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What he said.Rosso Carne wrote:ignoring GS
thats just a shitty PR and hes probably town.
FOS Think Tank
First vote is acceptable questioning vote. Second is clearly uninformed. You trying to use logic to band wagon someone with a PR is scummy.
Vote Ryan
Pinning GS as Jester, extensive exchange with SensFan is really scummy and chaotic, not town friendly things.
FOS Sensfan
When Ryan shows up scum, you are next in line IMO. Your conversation seems forced and empty, like a failed distancing attempt.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Sorry, I can't ever back a mass claim in a non-open game ever again unless there's a very very good reason behind it.Rosso Carne wrote:hugefOs: ANYONE VOTING gREASY SPOT
With my role and the obviously wacky role of greasy spot, I'm half tempted to ask for a massclaim. This game might be broken.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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I'm fairly sure GS's roles don't have to be in game role names. Just saying some of these look really out of place.
Again, mass claims are only good when the set up is known with 90% certainty of scum roles. Otherwise don't do them. Massive FOS Rosso for pushing this so far. Ryan is still my vote though for the same reasons as before.
Viqules vote/unvote is duely noted.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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I have a hard time finding that a mod would be that big of a bastard to put a role in like this that makes it more or less impossible to communicate with the other players and impossible to vote.
GS, please in your next post please claim a role name with a corresponding starting letter to who you think is scummiest.
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A - 1st player on player list in opening post
B- 2nd player in list
C- 3rd player
D- 4th player
E- 5th
etc.
If you can, post consecutive claims going in order of scumminess for your top couple suspects in this manner, starting with the most scummy.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Yeah, at that point your best shot would be to just claim and convince everyone you aren't a jester or something.aioqwe wrote: with cult. The leader wins with town. But the leader is forced to recruit. Referances to worst mafia evar, and there was a role like that. Although, he could simply be cult-cop, or a de-culter or something rather.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Why not just ask him to prove the theory in the cryptic form and end it once and for all, rather than causing a possibly absurdly convoluted situation for no reason.SensFan wrote:armlx wrote: I had (have) a theory that he can't include in his posts anything the Town has asked him for. So I didn't ask that he include any specific things, just that he not include certain things.
GS, if what I quoted from Sensfan is true, please don't make your next post with a line of text preceding your claim.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Town describes all players currently in the game. Of those they are split into pro-town and anti-town.ryan wrote:
So if scum asks him something he won't respond? (by your theory)SensFan wrote:
I had (have) a theory that he can include in his posts anything the Town has asked him for. So I didn't ask that he include any specific things, just that he not include certain things.armlx wrote:Still don't see why you need to post the requests so cryptically.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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I'm not liking Ryan's current OMGUS defense, and I still don't like his first discussion with Sensfan at all. Back to where I was before this dumb cult business.
Unvote, Vote Ryan
However, before the day is over, I want as much info as Rosso can reveal without giving away his anti-cult plan. Given that my vote may change, however especially given his last post attacking someone he believes is a recruit I'm pretty iffy on it.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Your last 2 posts (then one) have attacked people who just voted you with just reasons based on their votes without putting a vote anywhere. Sounds like you are being opportunistic yourself by waiting for one of those comments to spark off a wagon then jumping on.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Constantly referring to yourself as a townie is scummy. It does nothing but appeal to emotion which derails logic.ryan wrote:I've attacked who I think should be attacked, if the game doesn't like that than you'll be losing a townie who can help when it comes to endgame
I am very happy with my vote.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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When with that person's vote it's evident your wagon is gaining enough speed to lead to a lynch very soon, OMGUSing is indeed a good scum tell.Joubert wrote:Armlx, since when OMGUSing someone is considered a hard-steel Scum tell?
And no scum tell is ever hard steel......Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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You act like thats the only thing we have pushed on you.
First was your insistence GS was a Jester.
Next is how out of line your reactions are with standard behavior, and the last 15 or so pages of posts you have made on the site.
Next, though this point I'm least in agreement with, is how you have reacted to the cult.
Finally, this refusal to claim in response to 4 votes and a person not voting you asking for the claim (aka vote number 5) is really awkward. Seems like you are stalling b/c you have nothing.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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The thing is whether or not he is a Jester we aren't going to lynch him. He is either Jester and we don't lynch him, town with PR and don't lynch him, or mafia pretending to be town with PR and we don't lynch him till later when he screws up or we realize he's the only reasonable choice left. Saying he's the Jester only makes us flip out and lead to bad decision aka WIFOM aka scummy. Only scenario this isn't true is in an open game, where its valid discussion to find out who the Jester is.ryan wrote:1) Why my thoughts of GS being a jester are unjustified is beyond me, cannot I not look at the game and try and figure out his strange postings too? There was no consistent slamming people who didn't listen to me about him possibly being a jester, I brought it up earlier and asked for reactions and people immediately said that "Jester's aren't common" for these games (which isn't true as I just had a game where a jester was in it)
Your cult reaction is you tried to compare Rosso's claim (where he actually had info to back up knowledge of a cult) to your trying to pin GS as a Jester (which you only had in game analysis on). Role info >> in game analysis.If a claim is so important to you armlx and if you really need to know my role, ask, I'm tired of being the "bad guy" in this game and looked upon as I'm hiding something or being scum. Why don't you explain how I should react in these games since my reactions have been "so out of line" What about the cult? What reactions have I had with the cult that make me scum?
Instead of just saying "I'm not bad, you are b/c you are attacking me" when attacked, form arguments with more backing against people. However, from the posts of yours in other games I've looked at, it appears you already know how to do this and just aren't, which is one of my main points.
Did ask.If you want a claim armlx, ASK FOR IT! The only thing I've been guilty at to this point is not going after some of you with more piss and vinegar
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Works for me.vIQleS wrote: Maybe we need to bandwagon ryan to a claim and see where we go from there...Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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If he is, then he dies after you obviously.ryan wrote:
GS is scum faking a claim than. I guarantee you that I am the Cocktail Waitress with zero powers and nothing more than a towniearmlx wrote:It appears GS is calling BS on you. I'll let Sensfan phrase the anti-question to confirm as I'ld prolly screw it all up.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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You act as if we are just supposed to say "Oh, this guy called BS on guy claiming, lets assume he is FAKING A POST RESTRICTION and lynch him over the really scummy person".......ryan wrote:Well you seem hell bent on lynching a townie
Unvote/Vote:Greasy Spot
FoS: armlx
I haven't liked your play armlx up to this point and the past 2 pages show me you are rolehunting and rolefishing. If you have no problem leaving GS to live another day than you my friend are an idiot and should be looked upon very carefully.
GS is lying about his roleclaim as I guarantee I am what I posted. This crap has to end.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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IDK if it was jumping the gun, in his defense on this matter. It was fairly obvious you were going to vote, so he's at L-2 more or less in a game with 10 other relevant voters (GS has yet to show he can vote) and none of the others had defended him at all. Better to claim at that point then get quick lynched I guess is the logic I could see being used.vIQleS wrote:Well I was going to vote Ryan to push him to a claim, but he seems to have jumped the gun on that - he's very defensive for a vanilla townie.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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I'm still fine with my vote on Ryan. It was fairly obvious GS wasn't counter claiming IMO (seriously, cocktail waitress with that restriction?), but I said nothing as A) I wanted to see how Ryan reacted and B) was hoping GS would say he was counter claiming, in which case lynching him would occur. However, Ryan's response of "Lynch GS for not helping people" even after GS said he wasn't counter claiming is probably more scummy than everything else he did before now, and I was already willing to lynch him.
As stated by vIQuLeS, we should hold of on a lynch. Anyone who wants to vote Ryan should just FOS him until we are sure we have milked everything we can out of today, including but not limited to:
GS responding to Sensfan.
Hear a bit more from Unity before night fall.
Hear Rosso Carne's opinion of lynching Ryan and who he think is cult leader or w/e.
On the topic of the last one, I'm fairly sure Ryan is mafia, not cult. He probably used his real role name, as I doubt the mod would make the mafia have obvious evil role names and be forced to have an awkward claiming scenario or give them safe claim, and Ryan just claimed townie as it's the easiest to claim. Given this, I highly doubt a cocktail waitress would be the cult leader.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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FYI, I'm basing my GS wasn't counter claiming on his last post about not understanding confusing questions.
BTW, Ryan, nice play..... First, self lynching does nothing but hurt the town (nice try scum). Second, you are at L-2, not L-1.
Yah, another reason that no one should vote Ryan until we are sure we want to lynch him. If you do, he might just end discussion with a self vote.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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I'm fairly sure this kind of behavior actually leads to you being exiled from the community by lots of mods and/or mith, who don't want to see you ruining valid games with it. If you feel that upset you are going to get lynched, just don't post in this game and let us finish what be need to before the day is done rather than throwing a tantrum.ryan wrote: I can just as easily quote my role and be done with it there.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Crashing a day by posting your role PM is pretty much cutting off discussion, which is really awkward for anyone trying to play a progressive game of mafia aka pro-town people.ryan wrote:What am I ruining? I apparently am gonna be lynched no matter what so what does it really matter scum?
Though I'm more inclined to think you are just scum actually trying everything to not get lynched.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Way to be a help. Lets look at what this does.
Assuming Rosso is correct, +1 cult member for discussion.
-1 town member for discussion to mafia, most likely someone relevant to the discussion.
Possible -1 member to a 3rd anti-town group.
You get yelled at by actual everyone.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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What I don't understand is why you assume that stating that over and over makes us magically assume its true.ryan wrote:There is no OFF CHANCE, what are you not understanding? I am NOT scum. I'm a freakin cocktail waitress with ZERO powers or night actions.
Sensfan: While it is an empty threat, don't do those kind of things. You can't stoop down to an his level of non-logical emotion based attacks to fight him, simply because he has more experience at it.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Joubert, no offense, but let me shred your last 2 posts.
1st, unvoting someone because of their insane behavior is utterly unacceptable. Its like letting a small child have more dessert because they started breaking things screaming "BUT I WANT IT". Unvoting because you find them validly unscummy after reviewing their actions is ok.
For all intents and purposes, we have to assume GS is not mafia. In all honest, outside of PR themed games, I have never seen a mafia member have a PR. I can see GS being another 3rd party, but then he has no viable reason to put himself on the line vs Ryan like that as he gains nothing while fighting for his own survival. I guess if he was a cult recruit, but thats a different story, but thats about it.
Also, I have cited my reasons to vote Ryan. Did when I first voted him, did when I revoted him. Again, the phrase reading is tech comes to mind. My vote stands because I found his responses inadequate.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Good posting.Unity wrote:I drag my sorry but in here and you guys have been busy!
You know I'm new to this mafia thing, but all the fuss Ryan is throwing is dragging out a lot of good conversation. Even if he does turn up town (doubtful) he's helped me identify some suspects.
I don't think it's been a waste.
I'm confident with my vote.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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GS said that while he wasn't counterclaiming, he was willing to bet his continued presence in the game that Ryan was scum.aioqwe wrote:I interpreted the ASS statements as a pun on a cocktail waitress's assets but I guess it goes either way. He hasn't really responded to anyone else's requests in the thread so what makes his post with/ without capitals any different?Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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1) Jumping up and down with a townie claim does nothing unless there's a second role confirming you. Stop trying to convince us it does otherwise.ryan wrote:aioqwe: Nor do lynching somebody who's jumped up and down with the same claim and besides my recent meltdown has done nothing else to get lynched. An obvious wagon has started that some of you are confident to continue, stupid, but confident. It's simply retarded for you to sit here when GS has answered SensFan with TWO different counter claims, 1) saying I'm lying and 2) saying I'm telling the truth, HOW has this gone un-noticed?
2) Read GS's second post. It's obvious he misunderstood the request (PEOPLE ASK ME CONFUSING QUESTIONS). He still said he thinks you are scum, just not that the is counter claiming.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st