Mini 116: Trigger Mafia Concluded

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::cough:: ...excuse me.

Hi hi triggthreadies.
(just made that one up for everyone who posts in this thread...)

SooOOoo what's going on?

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ah, the lone player posts, thats cool.
Hm, its nice for a mod to not coop us up at night.
The locker gets a bit stuffy you know?
Ah, going to sleep now must assuage the head weirdness its all full of fuzz and gumshoe is all sticky you know?
But I can take the heat from the "man" heh...funny.

I thought potbellied pigs were cute. But hmm not the ones on animal planet the other night...

need sleep...must retire...brain cells...must holster up the bags under my eyes!

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How did I know this would happen?
This is my first death post btw...that I can remember anyway...
But really...just because I expected it doesn't mean you had to give in to it!

Have fun...

And hopefully other pro-town folk are much faster than I am...seem to be.

~w_W


ps. I'm sorry Tigris I don't know if you allow these kinds of posts. I wont harbor bad feelings if you delete it or rage because of it...hm...

Ta

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Oh my...who is back?
w_w is!

lallala...I will catch up later while I dance the dance of fairies and get off of the centers computer.


ta ta players
~w_W

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Hmm ok the funny thing is that since only some/most are voluntary you never know what you're going to get.

Nard issue?
The fact that the wording is similar to Jaguars is disconcerting but that is a bad scum move in my opinion (if it is).

It doesn't make bundles of sense to me because it says it is used against the mafia right?
Well In my mind that prompts the need for more wording. There are so many players and so many roles. So how does the vig gun get the task done.

Jaguars coming out as having investigated willows on night 1 would be a nice/convienent claim. Of course that's obvious.
Convienent because investigative powers could be had by anyone no?
And when tomorrow rolls around someone could simply lose their trigger. Like a trade in or simply lose if completely.

Other concerns Yaw and shady.

I will try and be back later to post more thoughts etc.
I would vote nard

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The gun versus piano point is valid to me but it's also (I feel) a bit early to give any set definitions to kills and possibilities for killing.
I.E. Tomorrow someone could get steamrolled?
(I'm not saying anyone was trying to give set definitions etc.)

Hm, don't know what the gun actually accomplishes?
Well guns don't always kill, aren't always used to suches like that.
I'm open to the possibility of creative license.
I.E. what type of gun, super powers, random anime/cartoon/etc goodness.

The main link for me between the claims are the finding from the past bit.

Would be interesting if it were a scheme.

My understanding is that no one can be clear from day to day. Is that the case?
One day you can be all hip with the strictly pro-town, another you may have an anti-town agenda or at least have triggered an action that does not benifit the town.
Let me know if this is wrong/you don't agree?

Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot to say thankyou earlier for the welcomes(Well I didn't forget I just had to go, before I had a chance)

Thankyou!

~W_W

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Ah, chaos...mmmm.
I figure it would be hard, and quite annoying but thats what makes things fun for me. Being driven insane by the crazy slim possibilities and chance.

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Hm, mafia not being able to activate protown triggers...
That makes it a bit wonky no?
I mean...pro-town is either a plain townie or a townie with a role.
In games someone who investigates doesnt have to be an actual cop(straightforward) right?

So any ability any player has in my opinion and thoughts have no allegiance themselves.
So ...the thing wrong with that I see is that it goes against the rules doesn't it?
If you look at it that way...

I guess the question is what is directly and only related to protown...?

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Ah, MeMe understands me...

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Hm, I don't get what the "but" is for in the sentence BlueSin.
Unless its to show that...
If he uses the gun, and some one actually dies then we wouldn't lose a protown person but in the morning it would be an antitown person.
And if there was no kill then Nard could tell us who the target was and then we would have a confirmed innocent for a while (unless we get one of those really slim chances).
But then again that's all supposing Nard is protown. Because if Nard were anti-town in anyway then Nard could simply give the name of a player most likely to be protown (if Mafia that's easy, if an SK triggered it would be a little less easy).

Is that the case? Or something totally different
Because then Nard could get killed too.
Then we would end up with nothing but perhaps knowing some truth about Nard.

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Wow...are you saying/had you said you were lying in order to sway the town?
Just because at that point you were thinking/sure that Jaguar was anti-town?

Interesting.
Let me know please...

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Can anyone think of likely people MeMe would have investigated and or who would have attacked her?

Knife this time btw.

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Interesting. At two different times, you are told you have triggered something...as if the second trigger has absolutely nothing to do with the first one.

Im thinking about that because you said "Ive found some things"
and "use one"
Then "Ive struck an additional trigger".

My issue is that if triggers are only triggered in in thread posts then the word "additional" mixed with my line of thinking about this should not be.


Well anyway (if anyone got that stuff) so you use it at the end of this day?
Would that suggest not being able to use two triggers in one night?
In my opinion that would better support what youre saying in regards to the double trigger issue.

But anyway...doesn't that suck? I mean...if its a cool trigger and all ...there is a possibility you could die before you use it.

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Oh wait...you said without a roleclaim?

Does that at all suggest that youre not plain townie...?
Its just that your words to me sound as if youre making it all sound uber important...I understand it is important though, with the players(some/few) putting some sort of pressure though.

Hm...if you arent just a plain townie...and you have two triggers...( did you use one last night? And now you can use the other one tonight? Is that the case Candice?) then that's pretty neat right?
Depending I guess...

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See anti town or not...the "I wont like it" part is iffy...you know?
Its...about the collective...

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if scum found medicine why would they use it on themselves?
(I am skimming the thread btw, pardon me)

Could be lies, and it would be easy to say used it on self. But I would figure easier to say used it on someone else.

Oh, had you been afraid of vig powers?

hm...weekend was interesting and fun.
Will be back for more indepth reading and posting

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I answered my reasons for the question in the same post.
I had forgotten about the vig thing for a moment.

In my opinion if it were just one mafia group/antitown group so I had not to fear for my life at night, I would have staged something .
It's always funny when there is something for the day thread to go wonkers over.

So yea, I do have reasons as to "why wouldn't they". But that's neither here nor there...

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Staged something?
Well I would have thought out the options...weighed liklihood of different outcomes.
Then found which was most entertaining...
Anyway...
Hmmm, you are mentioning the rules etc of the game.
I didn't say anything about what I thought directly related to numbers, and groups.
I was just explainging a situation. Doesnt need to apply so well with this particular game. Folks asked me "why wouldn't" and I attempted to show them my way of thinking and finding pleasure in stuff

Bleh...I just woke up

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a protown doc that just saves the self everynight in my opinion may as well be anti town for all the good.
The job loses the initial point you know?

Anyway if a doc was unkillable by this method it would be like a godfather unnightkillable.
Thats why you get day time lynches (a reason)

if there isnt going to be much more discussion that moves away from the end point of lynching bluesin let me know soon.

Im going to post in limitedaccess/vacation.
Im going to AR again wed. night.
Hopefully be back Tuesday night.

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Wow, so the people who aren't voting right now...arent voting yet and
Everyone else is still confident.
So it still probably going to rely on what is going on by deadline.

Well that sounds best, unless things happen with totem by/before then.

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That's funny. The breathing thing.
So...why am I the only post in excess?

Hopefully day starts before thursday evening...Im kind of going away for another weekend.
It's raining...

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Interesting.
An eightball that gives you no room for interpretation?
Simply (if it can even be said so) a good or bad result?

Sucks about that library.

I'm willing to vote tam. If not for that night info(yes I know there is possibility its faked/etc) but because hmm...you just sort of seem like maybe you're scum.

Not to crazy about Yaw either but not for the same reasons

mmm Con was fun

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Hm, seem to have forgotten to tell you of my trip up to maine that started Tuesday night. I am heading home in a few hours.

The only comment that makes me think scummy is the Jaguar comment sounding too ok with just seeing what happens if the lynch is shady or tam.

Hm, I don't think the new killer would be able to keep the ability. Mostly because odds are that they may lose it.
Odds like that because since you dont know what the triggers are ..etc.

vote:Jaguar

.
I dislike voting...

Any way since its 4 to lynch that makes 2 on Jaguar by the last vote count.
I wont be back in NYC till late tonight. Hopefully.

So my hope is that:
If Jaguar is innocent scum is already on another bandwagon so since there are 2 mafia they don't finish the deal together (considering one isnt on there already)

That there isnt a second party that doesnt care if Jaguar is lynched or not. (Never know exactly what these triggers could be. My brain is thinking about a certain game ssetup right now.)

Im sorry I really thought I mentioned that I would be going away again.

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Hmm. re-read and rethink.

unvote jaguar

But Im not going to put the 3rd oN Tam.
Even though she looks worse than anyone else.

I need to read somethng...brb

K, read it and did something but I have to wait...

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interesting. I made a post this morning...
Oh well it said something like this:

I have to keep checking to see who Yaw is voting for(Its just that my brain is thinking Yaw is on Jaguar when I read and reread posts)

Jaguar are you going to check me out?

Hm, I dont know about the gunshot.

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Yaw, I know you've been voting Tam. That's my point. While I am reading and re-reading though it looks to me that your case is always against Jaguar (or usually anyway. The way It reads to me. Hmm maybe its just the ones I've been looking at).

Jaguar gets what I was saying, so that's all that matters ( It was in reference to one of the posts she made today about night checks. I got my answer so...it's all good.)

The answer Jaguar gave is a bit bothersome though...I'm going to check who is still up, what they have or have not done and then think about that.

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Wow, I'm not mafia/scum/anti-town.


Interesting though, if everyone else has an alibi?
And is it Jaguar thats in control of that perspective?

The reason I had asked that question about if Jaguar was going to check me out. I asked that because Jag had said something about checking those who hadnt said anything about having triggers yet (I believe so anyway) and so I don't remember Uraj/Willow saying anything like it.

Which then leads to exactly why I asked ...do you see?

Anyway im leaving for Maine the final time this tuesday...so i will lots of acess after that!!!

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Hm, claim.
I'm pro town. Townie.

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Oh, I was on the tele while writing that.

I explained why I asked that question directly.
Your post said you were going to investigate those who hadn't alluded to having had any triggers.
You mentioned those who had. There aren't many players.
I then should have been on the list for next.
You had not mentioned me at all in your post. You mentioned a few other players.
So yea....

Hm, I'm not scum/antitown/mafia.


I can post until around 7am tomorrow morning.
I have to drive to Maine again.
IF I actually get there in time, I will have posting acess starting Wednesday morning.

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Oh, sorry again. I hadn't caught that.

I have had triggers yes. But nothing that doesn't make me still a townie(Townie being something without an ability that affects someone else/others at night).
I've had some cool stuff.
None of it changes my allegiance.

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Meh,

Let's see:
Win condition...town wins I win with the other remaining townies.

Times? Let me go check that.

Found something in my casa Night 2. I said yup to checking it out. It was a stick.
Let me get the opportunity to have my vote count double.
(Note I didn't vote at all that day. ...Not that I usually vote...)

The next night I got another trigger. I chose to leave the stick because really...it's not useful to a person who doesn't like to vote anyway...
And I got a vest that protects me.
So that's cool. Bullets and knives and such don't harm me.

I haven't had anything else since.

I'm tired.

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Hm, If I was aware I had to explain every little detail to you all I would have (after being annoyed of course)

My stick was already explained to me.

I found something in my home. I was asked if I wanted to use it. Didn't know if it was useful or not. It's not like alot of the other triggers. It's a really big stick.
I use it oddly. Because I'm a gentle person. But by having it if I vote it's counted twice.

Next night. I hit another trigger. I am told that if I take this I lose what I had the other night.
I decide to drop the stick and see what else I can get.
I get armour. It makes noise when I move etc.

Last night I got nothing. I don't lose armour or gain anything else.

Totem...really? You say stick like 'donut' is nearly as common.
Ditto for Yaw.


BTW, I hope not only the mafia have noted that their weapons most likely can't go through my armor(Let me go check what was the killing tool last night)
Which means mafia would be probably trying to get me during the day.
Makes sense...

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[qoute]I don't think it was mentioned that when you lose a trigger your old one is explained.Willows certainly didn't mention that [/qoute]

Wait a second...
When you lose a trigger... I haven't ever had something I gained from triggering TAKEN away from me.
So I haven't ever lost something.

I chose to give up my stick. Because it was useless to me. When I was told I hit another trigger I wanted to see what it was because like I said...
Since I already gained the stick night 3 I had the information I needed to know if, when and how I could/would use it.
Night 3 came the time I hit another trigger and had the option of taking that.
I gave it up freely.

My point is that I don't understand what you mean by what I qouted from you Totem.

You have had more than one trigger as well.
So you have had experience with them (Assuming).
Even though my stick was/is different a bit from other triggers.
Because of the fact my night 3 trigger had no mention of it being different.
As SOON as I accepted it I got the info on it in the next pm.


Anyway, I didn't get to go to maine today. Some mix up with the amtrak tickets for my friend getting back. I will hopefully be leaving tomorrow morning. Same drill. Ta.

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I am hoping everyone is reading this all carefully.
Night 2 I hit a stick. It gave me the power to have my votes counted twice.

What would mafia do?

WWMD!!!

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That was really fun thankies

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wicked cool.
I want some of those....