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Post Post #45 (isolation #0) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:00 am

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In post 8, Dunnstral wrote:Good news guys, you don't have to worry about me this game
this is scum
In post 40, Robbnva wrote:Sup
In post 43, Robbnva wrote:VOTE: zach
this is also scum
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Post Post #70 (isolation #1) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:41 pm

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In post 60, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 46, Robbnva wrote:I'm not even going to waste my time arguing with anyone who thinks I'm scum

Like I really don't care what y'all think about me.
This can be town for now. I think in a similar fashion. Plus, I think it would be kind of funny if he started to argue with me, because then it shows...NO ONE IS SAFE FROM THE ROBB!!!
Scumbuddies confirmed
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Post Post #96 (isolation #2) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:15 pm

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Gutreads.
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Post Post #100 (isolation #3) » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:52 pm

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In post 97, Mint Berry Crunch wrote:
In post 96, Dunkerdoodles wrote:Gutreads.
Nothing else to add?
Nope.
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Post Post #115 (isolation #4) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:08 am

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In post 104, Mint Berry Crunch wrote:
In post 100, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
In post 97, Mint Berry Crunch wrote:
In post 96, Dunkerdoodles wrote:Gutreads.
Nothing else to add?
Nope.
VOTE: Dunker

Good to know. If you feel like trying to change my mind on your slot, let me know.
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i actually think robb is scum
VOTE: robb
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Post Post #118 (isolation #5) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:35 am

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In post 116, Robbnva wrote:You already said that. Why does somebody voting cause you to actually vote now? You could have voted me earlier
idk i guess i forgot to vote earlier
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Post Post #132 (isolation #6) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:39 pm

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so basically Macho on steroids?
or am i missing something?
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Post Post #133 (isolation #7) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:39 pm

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oops i forgot to quote but that was at drixx's post
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Post Post #134 (isolation #8) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:41 pm

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In post 130, Penn and Teller wrote:
In post 118, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
In post 116, Robbnva wrote:You already said that. Why does somebody voting cause you to actually vote now? You could have voted me earlier
idk i guess i forgot to vote earlier
how do you forget to vote?

seriously. how?

also dunkey ur gonna need to explain these votes a bit more. Im not sure if ur trying to do a reversal of jungle republic and go off ur gutreads instead of sheeping as sheeping went really bad for you.

-ntrp
i didn't know which of my scumreads to vote so i just didn't
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Post Post #141 (isolation #9) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:18 pm

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In post 136, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 134, Dunkerdoodles wrote:i didn't know which of my scumreads to vote so i just didn't
But I thought the reason was that you forgot to vote? So did you forget to vote or did you not know which of your scumreads you wanted to vote? What was it that prompted you to vote for Robb?

Btw I don't really think he's scum anymore
VOTE: Famethyst
I was going to go back and see who to vote but I forgot to do that. Sorry if it was unclear. Anyways I was getting more scummy vibes from Robb than Dunn so I voted him
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Post Post #144 (isolation #10) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:43 pm

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In post 142, Drixx wrote:
In post 126, Dunnstral wrote:That's a lot of words to say you can't be stopped from dying if targeted with a kill
Perhaps. The point was that whenever I end up dying, people should be aware that their role actions may have been impacted in some way. Once someone decides to attempt to kill me, nothing at all can stop that. No redireciton, blocking, jailing, doctoring, etc...

That means my negative utility could impact others. I thought it best to be as thorough as possible.
i'm going to assume you are a PR, Mega-Macho (yes that's what im calling it) Vanilla Townie doesn't make a whole lot of sense
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Post Post #145 (isolation #11) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:47 pm

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hold up, this actually makes no sense.
if this is real, and you are town why in the world would you claim this? you literally are just going to die n1 and no one can save you because of your ability. you basically just killed yourself by claiming this.
you said you claimed this so people would know if you died why they're actions didn't work on you but if you died wouldn't you just flip your role card and then people could figure out you're mega macho and then they could realise why they couldn't save you.
basically, unless i'm missing something you have no reason to claim this as town which means you are fakeclaiming therefore you are scum.

VOTE: Drixx
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Post Post #147 (isolation #12) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:49 pm

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what do you think about my other post? does it make sense?
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Post Post #150 (isolation #13) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:53 pm

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In post 148, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 145, Dunkerdoodles wrote:hold up, this actually makes no sense.
if this is real, and you are town why in the world would you claim this? you literally are just going to die n1 and no one can save you because of your ability. you basically just killed yourself by claiming this.
you said you claimed this so people would know if you died why they're actions didn't work on you but if you died wouldn't you just flip your role card and then people could figure out you're mega macho and then they could realise why they couldn't save you.
basically, unless i'm missing something you have no reason to claim this as town which means you are fakeclaiming therefore you are scum.

VOTE: Drixx
We obviously view this claim extremely differently...
it actually makes no sense to claim that tho if he is actually what he says he is.
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Post Post #152 (isolation #14) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:59 pm

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but he's literally asking scum to kill him and town can't do anything about it...
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Post Post #154 (isolation #15) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:04 pm

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In post 153, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 152, Dunkerdoodles wrote:but he's literally asking scum to kill him and town can't do anything about it...
Because he doesn't wan't town to waste their actions...
but even if town did use their action on him it wouldn't be wasted because he'd be dead...
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Post Post #157 (isolation #16) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:17 pm

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In post 156, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 154, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
In post 153, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 152, Dunkerdoodles wrote:but he's literally asking scum to kill him and town can't do anything about it...
Because he doesn't wan't town to waste their actions...
but even if town did use their action on him it wouldn't be wasted because he'd be dead...
Only if he gets targeted!

With his claim, he may be left alive as Wine and he has let Protectives know to go elsewhere, raising their chances of succeeding!

We're obviously at a theory difference here so how about we move on.

What is the point in voting for someone you are positive will be tonight's target?
because he's fakeclaiming and is scum...
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Post Post #159 (isolation #17) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:32 pm

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In post 158, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 157, Dunkerdoodles wrote:because he's fakeclaiming and is scum...
In post 156, Aristophanes wrote:he may be left alive as Wine
You're doing their job for them preemptively.

Man you're good! :P
me no understanderino
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Post Post #161 (isolation #18) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:45 pm

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oh you're talking about WIFOM. i get it now.
i still don't see a reason for drixx to claim that tho if he really is mega macho
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Post Post #163 (isolation #19) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:51 pm

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In post 162, Drixx wrote:Dunkerdoodles; this isn't a newbie game. I'm not experimenting with something new here. I'm alerting the town to negative utility. This allows town to avoid wasting anything protective on me, and sure ... scum can kill me if they want. There is positive utility to being the night kill in some circumstances. There's also the hedge utility of it. Generally speaking though, neg utility is claimed immediately or not believed. Thus, I claimed it immediately.

I will admit that the byplay was a little bit amusing though.
ok fine, i guess i'll believe you. what does a little newbie know anyways?
i still wouldn't have revealed if i were you tho
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Post Post #167 (isolation #20) » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:09 pm

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I'd just like to point out both of you taking is a no bueno for flavour reasons so really one of you can't talk (teller doesn't tall).
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Post Post #215 (isolation #21) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:01 am

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I get called lynch bait everyone game whether I'm town or scum which is either a good thing or a bad thing idrk.
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Post Post #220 (isolation #22) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:05 am

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In post 218, Zachstralkita wrote:like lol, drixx claims and he pushes it.
I pushed it because the claim didn't make sense to me
(It still doesn't ftr but oh well)
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Post Post #250 (isolation #23) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:32 am

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Oh yeah the sk thing. I'm probably going to die to that or something cause I don't post very often. Oh well
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Post Post #314 (isolation #24) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:51 pm

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In post 46, Robbnva wrote:I'm not even going to waste my time arguing with anyone who thinks I'm scum

Like I really don't care what y'all think about me.
i don't like this post. i don't know what it's called, but i know it's a common scum tactic where instead of reponding to scumreads and cases on you, you just dismiss it like "you're case is stupid" or "you have no reason to scumread me" or something like that.
i also don't like how he doesn't seem to have any solid scum or townreads, but still has opinions on who to lynch when people ask him.
robb is my top scumread atm, the only thing is i think he softed but im not sure.
i also didn't like dunn's entrance, but he hasn't really done anything else scummy so idk.

i also agree that boon feels off, but i guess it's irl stuff so it's NAI i guess.

wake feels really townie
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Post Post #324 (isolation #25) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:56 pm

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In post 317, Wake1 wrote:
In post 314, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
In post 46, Robbnva wrote:I'm not even going to waste my time arguing with anyone who thinks I'm scum

Like I really don't care what y'all think about me.
i don't like this post. i don't know what it's called, but i know it's a common scum tactic where instead of reponding to scumreads and cases on you, you just dismiss it like "you're case is stupid" or "you have no reason to scumread me" or something like that.
i also don't like how he doesn't seem to have any solid scum or townreads, but still has opinions on who to lynch when people ask him.
robb is my top scumread atm, the only thing is i think he softed but im not sure.
i also didn't like dunn's entrance, but he hasn't really done anything else scummy so idk.

i also agree that boon feels off, but i guess it's irl stuff so it's NAI i guess.

wake feels really townie
Dunkerdoodles, that's Robb's meta.

He plays like that.

Don't push him on how he plays.
ok sorry, i haven't played with him before so i didn't know his meta. sorry
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Post Post #333 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:59 pm

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In post 331, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 327, Wake1 wrote:I was going to say that like Robb, DD shouldn't be Scumread for meta.
...who's scumreading DD for meta?
my meta
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Post Post #344 (isolation #27) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:05 pm

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i have a tendency to follow experienced players and sheep them, because often i trust them more then i do myself, then i get scumread for not having my own opinions, then i get scumread for having bad opinions, which makes me go back to sheeping experienced players. it's almost like an infinite loop really.
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Post Post #349 (isolation #28) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:13 pm

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In post 346, Wake1 wrote:
In post 344, Dunkerdoodles wrote:i have a tendency to follow experienced players and sheep them, because often i trust them more then i do myself, then i get scumread for not having my own opinions, then i get scumread for having bad opinions, which makes me go back to sheeping experienced players. it's almost like an infinite loop really.
I don't really buy that you're inexperienced, but that's neither here nor there
I've played a handful of games on this site (maybe 5 or 6) and a few more on my homesite (7 or 8) but I'm still reletively new to forum mafia
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Post Post #374 (isolation #29) » Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:15 pm

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In post 372, Dunnstral wrote:So what exactly have I done that you think is scummy?

There's nothing inherintly scummy about changing my vote so you're going to have to explain this
i also think you're scum ftr, i just can't exactly put my finger on it (aka im gutreading you scum)
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Post Post #413 (isolation #30) » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:21 am

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Drixx can I ask you something. In the newbie game I recall town saying that you aren't posting a lot for an IC and you responded with something like "I am generally better on the later it goes and I tend to post more as the game goes on", however this game you seem to be contributing a lot more d1 and just doing a lot more than you did in the newbie game. I'm not nessaceraly saying it's scummy I'm juts wondering my that is.
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Post Post #431 (isolation #31) » Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:13 pm

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In post 429, Dunnstral wrote:I'm not a good lynch
why not?
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Post Post #436 (isolation #32) » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:55 pm

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how can you juggle 12 games lol. i can barely do 3 or 4
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Post Post #444 (isolation #33) » Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:13 am

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@mod Limited access until Monday. Will still be on once or twice a day tho.
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Post Post #468 (isolation #34) » Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:30 pm

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Daily catchup post.
Nothings really changed
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Post Post #538 (isolation #35) » Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:42 pm

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boon pls townread me i'm town i promise
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Post Post #539 (isolation #36) » Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:44 pm

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P&T is scum 100%. wagon this
VOTE: Penn & Teller
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Post Post #541 (isolation #37) » Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:06 pm

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In post 540, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 539, Dunkerdoodles wrote:P&T is scum 100%. wagon this
VOTE: Penn & Teller
Why?
idk gutread, but i'm strangely very confident in this one.
also their iso just feels scummy. paul isn't playing like normal town paul imo
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Post Post #610 (isolation #38) » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:52 pm

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VOTE: bfi
L-1
i just want this day to end
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Post Post #778 (isolation #39) » Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:02 am

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Ok so we have a global watcher which I assume just watched everyone for 1 night. I guess now we know how many visiting roles are in the game.
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Post Post #865 (isolation #40) » Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:27 am

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i'm like super confused too.
so robb is claiming forced visitor to someone that is killed? am I the only one that thinks that is a terrible claim? like, it's like claiming miller after a cop outs and has a red result on you.
I'm actually in favour of a massclaim if you guys want to.
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Post Post #890 (isolation #41) » Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:18 am

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i am reading i'm just incredibly confused.
ftr i still have a scumread on robb but everyone else town reads him and apparently he always plays like this so i haven't really pushed him cause it would never get anywhere.
for the claims so far if i'm correct:
drixx is like mega-macho
fame is 1 shot modified global watcher
robb is forced visitor to one of the killed targets
am i correct on these claims and have i missed any?
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Post Post #903 (isolation #42) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:08 pm

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may aswell claim now even though i'm probably getting lynched anyways.
I'm VT
my flavour name is:
GEORGE STRAIT - CHECK YES OR NO
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Post Post #904 (isolation #43) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:47 pm

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Spoiler:
Ari: Some early interaction with boon, ik it's RVS and it shouldn't matter but i thought i'd mention it.
In post 92, Aristophanes wrote:Oh shit, I forgot this started!

RVS is still going, right?

VOTE: Boonskies

Girls <3 Girls you duped me! I will not let it happen again! :P
In post 94, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 93, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 91, Robbnva wrote:
In post 82, Famethyst wrote:bad posts tend to come from scum since bad means likely scum motivated
I'm probably the most black and white type player here and even I don't agree with this statement. Townies can make bad posts.
Honestly, I think town players make bad posts more often than scum.

@Aristo - Now it's your turn to dupe me, right?
I'll do my best ;)
In post 183, Aristophanes wrote:I wonder when Boon is gonna come out and actually play!

His silence saddens me.
these posts above do feel like distancing.
also was very involved when i scumread drixx for his claim, this could either be legit however the whole thing kinda feel like a grab at towncred.
for reference:

also looking back, drixx is a better player later on in games so if scum leave him alive as wine it could harm scum as drixx is a good town player and could help us catch scum later on.
the rest of ari's ISO feels scummy too.
i think this is scum, however not too sure.
Famethyst: I believe their claim
Robb: I strongly scumread him, but people keep telling me he always plays like this as town so idk :/ i also really don't like his claim and i want him lynched but idk if anyone else will with me
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Post Post #909 (isolation #44) » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:18 am

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alright robb, you can lynch me if you really want to.
i would look at robb and ari tommorrow, but what do i know.
i'll vote myself if i need to
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Post Post #911 (isolation #45) » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:13 am

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i am trying to find scum. i have scumreads, it's just no one else scumreads you, not a lot of people scumread P&T, so i figured there was no real reason to push them and i would just go along with what the majority want which is me i guess.
there's no real reason for me to be in this game anymore, so may aswell just hammer me now.
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Post Post #936 (isolation #46) » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:23 pm

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In post 935, Drixx wrote:I never understood why people would decide to skip playing when they draw scum. Being the informed minority is amazingly liberating.
scum is my favorite.
anyways it's probably in our best interest just to lynch me today and maybe activity will pick up after a new day.
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Post Post #939 (isolation #47) » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:02 pm

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i am trying to play the game. it's just i got really confused this game and i didn't really understand what was going on. even after rereading i'm still confused. it's not anyone's fault other than mine that i am confused. anyways, i am trying even though it may not look like it, i guess i have a different way of playing then everyone else but i promise i'm trying.
In post 913, Robbnva wrote:
In post 911, Dunkerdoodles wrote:i am trying to find scum. i have scumreads, it's just no one else scumreads you, not a lot of people scumread P&T, so i figured there was no real reason to push them and i would just go along with what the majority want which is me i guess.
there's no real reason for me to be in this game anymore, so may aswell just hammer me now.
another player has asked you to explain your scum read on me. Why have you not responded.

why don't you explain what about my claim you don't like

why didn't you admit your mistake that you made earlier when you claimed I only claimed because I had a guilty result when that wasn't true at all?


you do realize it doesn't matter if other people disagree with you, you can still push on me and convince others to get me lynched. I never stop pushing my scum reads just because people don't agree with me. I try and make them see my point.

Right now people are town reading me because of meta. Meta is a shitty reason to town read somebody. Why not push that and make people give better reasons? why are you afraid to make waves?

You aren't a n00b anymore, so why are you acting like one?
I scum read you because whenever someone scumread you you just ignored it and even blatantly said so. i find this is a common scum tactic where like 1 person will announce a scumread on someone and the person will just respond with like "ur so dumb i can't believe you scumread me" or like "im obv town stop scumreading me" or something like that.

your claim is just so.. weird. like, a compulsive visitor to a dead person is just a weird role imo. ik if it's real it's to mess with trackers/watchers etc but idk it seems weird. it kinda makes sense i guess? if we were to know the other roles im sure it would make more sense.

i thought i did admit it. atleast i thought it was obvious i had misread it.

whenever i push my scumreads i either get pushed massively for them or they're just wrong. i have scumread and i want to push them, it's just that there's no one for me to push with.

i actually don't think meta is a shitty reason to townread someone, i think meta is totally valid and is actually one of th reasons i'm hesitant on my scumread of you, apparently you always play like this so idk if it's just how you play or if it's actually scummy.

i'm not trying to, im sorry if it appears that way
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Post Post #941 (isolation #48) » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:36 pm

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In post 940, Penn and Teller wrote:Okay! Now we're getting somewhere. I also asked about your reads on us and on Ari, could you explain those more?

In post 939, Dunkerdoodles wrote:apparently you always play like this so idk if it's just how you play or if it's actually scummy.
Right. So. I think I figured out where you're getting this from - Wake said not to push Robb based on playstyle early on, didn't he?

Dunkerdoodles wrote: whenever i push my scumreads i either get pushed massively for them or they're just wrong. i have scumread and i want to push them, it's just that there's no one for me to push with.
You don't need everyone else to think someone is scum for them to be scum. If you think they are, your job is to make everyone else realise it. People need to be convinced before they'll decide you're right. So convince them.

And to be worried about being pushed for your reads is not a townie mentality, though while NTRP is gone I can't verify whether it's NAI for you. If you're a townie your job is to lynch scum, so do it! If people scumread you for that, figure out if they're misguided town or malicious scum and act accordingly.

Dunkerdoodles wrote: I scum read you because whenever someone scumread you you just ignored it and even blatantly said so. i find this is a common scum tactic where like 1 person will announce a scumread on someone and the person will just respond with like "ur so dumb i can't believe you scumread me" or like "im obv town stop scumreading me" or something like that.

your claim is just so.. weird. like, a compulsive visitor to a dead person is just a weird role imo. ik if it's real it's to mess with trackers/watchers etc but idk it seems weird. it kinda makes sense i guess? if we were to know the other roles im sure it would make more sense.
I actually find someone ignoring scumreads on themselves to be townie. Town knows that a scumread on them is wrong and not worth addressing. Why do you think it's a common scum tactic and not a town trait?


Gravedigger is a thing. If you check the wiki it's mentioned in a number of places, though it doesn't seem to have a page itself. There's a number of roles designed to cause confusion like that, and it seems plausible given Fame's claim. What do you think of MBC's claim, then? I find that one much weirder.


I can handhold you if it means you'll contribute. I'm confused too. But I think you're probably scum who is leaning hard on that confusion to explain why you have no reads that make any sense.
i was mainly scumreading paul but i always scumread him so he's probably town. keychain's head makes me also think this slot is town and i keep second guessing myself whether paul is town or scum, but i retracted the scumread for now on your slot, i think i mentioned that somewhere already but maybe not
i also explained my ari read in my "readlist"

maybe it's just me, but i've never seen any role like it. i didn't even realize MBC claimed, or rather i saw that they claimed a role that visited 2 people but not the actual role. i thought that was what people were referring too when they said MBC claimed but i didnt realise MBC hardclaimed.
that is a strange role, just like robb's role. idk what to think about it rn, im not even sure if i fully understand how their role works :/

also on the bolded, i agree with this however i feel scum could also easily coast this point to victory. like, if you were scum and you ignored every scumread against you and you got townread for that it would be a pretty easy win would it not? i also feel like scum!robb is sweeping this game if i didn't scumread him since everyone else townread's him i think.
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Post Post #1019 (isolation #49) » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:37 am

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In post 1018, Robbnva wrote:No posts from dunkers in 4 days yet he's logged in all weekend in addition to the scummy stuff he's done this game is essentially a scum claim.

It's like the game that just ended where creature lurked and did nothing and flipped scum. This is the same situation as far as I'm concerned.

Anyone against his lynch isn't trying to find scum.

Wagon ho on dunkers.
1. that is angleshooting and i think it's kinda a bad reason to scumread someone. it's also frowned upon on my homesite (idk about here) so yeah.
2. no one else has been posting, i have nothing to comment on. I didn't actually know that ari was at L-1 (i misread the VC) or i would've declared intent so that's my bad but i also kinda wanted to hear from you.
3. interesting how you compare me to a completely different person, like i'm not creature, creature probably plays completely different from me, so why are you comparing me to him?
i also have one question for you robb before i hammer, and that is if i were to flip town (which i would), who would you be looking at for scum? it seems like i'm your main scumread cause you've sorta been tunneling me so i'm just wondering. anyways
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Post Post #1021 (isolation #50) » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:41 am

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In post 1020, Robbnva wrote:^ scum confirmed
dang, you got me
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Post Post #1022 (isolation #51) » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:41 am

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but srsly tho can you at least respond to my points and answer my question
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Post Post #1024 (isolation #52) » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:49 am

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^ scum confirmed
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Post Post #1033 (isolation #53) » Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:49 pm

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In post 942, Penn and Teller wrote:You mentioned them, yes, but they didn't make a lot of sense, which is why I'm asking for more details.

Here is the relevant part of your readslist:
In post 904, Dunkerdoodles wrote:Ari: Some early interaction with boon, ik it's RVS and it shouldn't matter but i thought i'd mention it.
Spoiler: (posts spoilered for length by Key)
In post 92, Aristophanes wrote:Oh shit, I forgot this started!

RVS is still going, right?

VOTE: Boonskies

Girls <3 Girls you duped me! I will not let it happen again! :P
In post 94, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 93, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 91, Robbnva wrote:
In post 82, Famethyst wrote:bad posts tend to come from scum since bad means likely scum motivated
I'm probably the most black and white type player here and even I don't agree with this statement. Townies can make bad posts.
Honestly, I think town players make bad posts more often than scum.

@Aristo - Now it's your turn to dupe me, right?
I'll do my best ;)
In post 183, Aristophanes wrote:I wonder when Boon is gonna come out and actually play!

His silence saddens me.

these posts above do feel like distancing.
also was very involved when i scumread drixx for his claim, this could either be legit however the whole thing kinda feel like a grab at towncred.
for reference:

also looking back, drixx is a better player later on in games so if scum leave him alive as wine it could harm scum as drixx is a good town player and could help us catch scum later on.
the rest of ari's ISO feels scummy too.

i think this is scum, however not too sure.
...
P&T: after looking at ISO i retract my gutread on them :) i was probably getting too hasty and trying to fine things to scumread without really thinking about it.
I saw the read on Ari and I think it's sketchy. It came out of nowhere, when he is currently the other wagon. I want you to elaborate on the bolded because what you've got just feels like you pushing his lynch solely because it's not yours.

i had just noticed the 2 opening post related to boon in his ISO, i think they're actually really telling of a scumteam between them.
i also believe i mentioned this, but everyone else scumreading ari makes me scumread ari more just because i know i'm not being stupid or my read is terrible because other people agree with it.


The read on us has jumped all over, and for it to be gone now when you initially said you were "strangely confident" seems incredibly inconsistent. So you're townreading me and can't decide on NTRP? That goes a little way towards the explanation I'm trying to get out of you. What in particular makes you feel that way?
idrk, but yeah i townread you and ntrp is sorta null. paul i always scumread when he is town so i'm being careful.

Dunkerdoodles wrote: also on the bolded, i agree with this however i feel scum could also easily coast this point to victory. like, if you were scum and you ignored every scumread against you and you got townread for that it would be a pretty easy win would it not? i also feel like scum!robb is sweeping this game if i didn't scumread him since everyone else townread's him i think.
This is a good point, but you contradict yourself. So you think he's overdoing a towntell a bit, and that's why he's scummy? Or you think it's easy enough to imitate that it becomes a nulltell since it's just as likely to come from either alignment?
If you think Robb is scum and you're the only one who has noticed, then
convince us
. Prove it! Give me evidence. Explain why he's scum. NTRP has said that you've been accurate before.
i have seen other people do it which is why i'm wary of it, i feel like he's just coasting on the fact everyone townreads him while he could still be scum.
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Post Post #1034 (isolation #54) » Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:53 pm

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@ari i feel like this day was getting dragged on and stale and we need to end this day and start the next day.
in already said this but, i'm fine with being the lynch for today if it helps narrow down the pool and find scum tommorrow.

i also explained my read in the post above (how convenient)
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Post Post #1043 (isolation #55) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:38 am

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if you really want to see my games i can pull them up for you
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Post Post #1045 (isolation #56) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:45 am

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Post Post #1049 (isolation #57) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:23 am

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In post 1046, Penn and Teller wrote:
In post 1033, Dunkerdoodles wrote:idrk, but yeah i townread you and ntrp is sorta null. paul i always scumread when he is town so i'm being careful.
Yeah
But
This doesn't answer my question?

I asked
why
you townread me. What makes me worth townreading? I just recently completed a game as town where a scum player told me postgame that he BSed an excuse to townread me so I'd leave him alone, so can you see why I'm suspicious that you've switched your read on us based on me? I need more of a reason.
Dunkerdoodles wrote: i had just noticed the 2 opening post related to boon in his ISO, i think they're actually really telling of a scumteam between them.
i also believe i mentioned this, but everyone else scumreading ari makes me scumread ari more just because i know i'm not being stupid or my read is terrible because other people agree with it.
So when I said "can you elaborate on what in the rest of Ari's ISO feels scummy" you thought I would be happy with you reiterating why his opening RVS posts make him scum with Boonskiies? And not mentioning the rest of his ISO at all?
You also did not mention Ari a single time (iirc) before your random out-of-the-blue scumread, so it feels very much to me like you just conjured it up because he's currently the alternative lynch to you. Not because you think he is actually scum.
Sheeping popular opinion also makes no sense - you can't think "everyone thinks this person is scum, they must be scum" when one of your reasons for scumreading Robb is everyone townreading him!

Why aren't you pushing Robb, now that Drixx agrees with you? And also why did you avoid answering me the first time by lurking out?

Drixx wrote:I'm back. I'm sort of interested in seeing where this P&T thread goes.
oh hey Drixx, why wasn't that post a vote on Robb considering what you said earlier and also could you answer my questions from earlier please? :]
What sort of interests you here?
i town read because you make sense and i like your tone.
ari ISO feels, scummy i guess. he hasn't really defended himself nor has he really scumread anyone which concerns me i guess.
also i'm not scumreading robb because everyone townreads him, im saying based on the fact everyone townreads him, he could easily sweep this game if hypothetically he is scum. i would still be scumreading him if other people were scumreading him.
i was going to push robb tommorrow since i thought we were lynching ari today. i still do want to lynch ari today.
ima put him at L-1, feel free to hammer.
oh yeah, i also think maria is scum
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Post Post #1050 (isolation #58) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:24 am

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In post 1048, MariaR wrote:Dunkers posting is upset town I'm ready for this day to be over zzz I'm bored
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Post Post #1052 (isolation #59) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:26 am

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actually on 2nd glance maria is probably town if ari is scum
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Post Post #1053 (isolation #60) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:27 am

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maria could still be bussing ari tho hmm
whatever can we just lynch either me or ari to end the day
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Post Post #1056 (isolation #61) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:23 am

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what makes you think i'm playing worst this game then the others?
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Post Post #1057 (isolation #62) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:27 am

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worse*
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Post Post #1059 (isolation #63) » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:33 am

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ok
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Post Post #1064 (isolation #64) » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:59 am

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In post 1063, Aristophanes wrote:I'm not scum holy shit!

Let me claim at least before you hammer my ass into oblivion!
you're hammered already im pretty sure
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Post Post #1070 (isolation #65) » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:57 am

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how was it obvious, i put him at L-1 and maria voted so i assume he was hammered.
i'm fairly sure robb is scum that knows i'm town and mislynch bait.
In post 1069, Robbnva wrote:yeah it was fucking obvious he wasn't hammered. which just makes me want to lynch dunker even more. that is fake ignorance on his part.

If he honestly though maria hammered, why didn't he find it odd she was asking about deadlines and prods... cmon dunker.
like if you aren't scum here what are you even doing?
he is also obviously trying to derail the ari wagon, robb hasn't even given a read on ari because he's been too busy tunneling me all day.
robb, what is your read on ari may i ask?
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Post Post #1092 (isolation #66) » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:29 pm

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I don't think I'm particularly playing differently from any of my other games, maybe u can discuss this with Paul in ur pt as he has been in many of my games.
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Post Post #1107 (isolation #67) » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:45 am

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You could cop me to prove to Robb I'm town
Or just kill Robb cause he's scum
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Post Post #1128 (isolation #68) » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:47 pm

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You're also an sk that doesn't have the same wincon as town
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Post Post #1194 (isolation #69) » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:52 am

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Robb/p&t is the scum team, it checks out with them not wanting to leash the sk and also them pushing my mislynch so hard even though Paul has seen me play before and knows I am town.
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Post Post #1204 (isolation #70) » Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:04 pm

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in what way have i been trying to fake a newbie status.
i said i am still kinda new which is true but i also said i have some experience which is also true in no way have i said or done anything that shows i am faking being a newbie.

also, mafia would not want town leaching the sk if they thought they were in a good position to win, because leaching the sk could be one of the only ways town wins this game, which a team like robb/p&t could be in a good position rn.

anyways robb is scum.

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Post Post #1207 (isolation #71) » Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:59 pm

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robb, are you willing to be lynched and have me be lynched if you flip town?
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Post Post #1211 (isolation #72) » Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:49 pm

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the question for you robb is, if i'm not scum, and you're not scum, who is scum?
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Post Post #1213 (isolation #73) » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:10 pm

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whatever, i'll self hammer, i'm tired of arguing, i've asked you to stop tunneling me and look at someone else, i've tried considering you are also town and that scum is somewhere else but no, you keep tunneling me.

please lynch robb tommorrow.

if maria is scum i'm going to feel really dumb.

gl tmr guys

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