Mini 567 - iPick - Game Over: The Stunning Conclusion

[cicero]

On a scale of 1-10, how bastardly do you want the game to be (10 = evil)?

1

On a scale of 1-10, how complex/unbalanced are you comfortable with roles being (10=lol)?

Complex and unbalanced are different. Complex? 10. Unbalanced. 1

Rank these themes, in order from best to worst:

Historical Disfigurements

Existentialism

Authority Figures

Literary Characters

Things that don’t make sense

Pokemon, Digimon, & Harry Potter

Any other themes you might want to see come into play?

Anything your twisted heart desires.

Any specific roles/types of roles you want to see in play?

No cults

Any game mechanics?

No cults

Want lots of flavor?

Sure!!

[cicero]

Vote Vollkan

He's clearly our skulker.

[cicero]

Ick. That is a crappy role.

[cicero]

By the way: What

is

a 'historical disfigurement'? It sounds interesting, but I don't have a clue what it means.

Van Gogh's Ear.

[cicero]

I gotta say, I don't trust Adel's private question answers. She put a 1 for the alignment question but couldn't she very easily PM a real set of private answers, maybe putting 10 for that? Seems like an early attempt to gain the future town's trust. Same goes for her putting 9 for being comfortable ith a post restriction, couldn't that be a prospective mafia's excuse to lurk?

FOS

Um...duh.

If Adele made her private answers public, you can *be assured* she sent in another set of answers privately.

[cicero]

Actually that just makes me think... I'm going to post mine too. Cut and pasted right from the PM I sent Guardian:

On a scale of 1-10, with 1 being town and 10 being anti-town, where do you want to be? (note: there are only so many anti-town slots and I might have already made up my mind... the game is called iPick )

5. Wherever you want me to be.

On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being unable to speak, how comfortable would you be with having a role with a significant post restriction?

3

On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being uncommon, how comfortable would you be with having a role that is very uncommon/unconventional?

10

On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being bad, how likely are you to need replacement?

1

Any specific role/type of role you want? I may completely ignore this, but any private expectations you have for this game, make them known here, and I'll ignore them, or if you are lucky, take them into account .

No preferences. You pick my friend.

[cicero]

Oh shush, DG. You can't stay mad at me. (smooch)

(And Adel did it first!!)

[cicero]

So do I. You can't imagine what it's like to be around myself ALL THE TIME.

Not to mention how I am in every game I am in.

Not exactly true... TOASTER STRUDEL!!!

[cicero]

I am in every game I am in.

Not exactly true... TOASTER STRUDEL!!!

Er... I am also in games I'm not in!!!

So...Heavy...man...

/puff

[cicero]

Good point. But forming those opinions and articulating them are two different things. Until the game is set in stone you're just giving the mod the power to play with your assumptions.

[cicero]

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!

Vote cicero

If there's a meaningless bandwagon on me I want a piece of it!

[cicero]

It'd probably make his modkill decision easier

But you run the risk of him killing me at the same time he makes me the doctor or something. :p I get the feeling that guardian has a bit of mischief to him.

And before you say that was scummy, I've just innoculated town against that possibility. Now he'll have to think of something else.

[cicero]

it's true! Even *I'm* voting for Cicero, you dumbasses!

[cicero]

Hey everyone.

I'm a 100-shot day role cop.

Guess what I found out? I'm Nabby's scumbuddy!

Aren't I useful. Also, why is cicero still alive?

srsly

[cicero]

All I have to say to you, Vollkan is...

I love Christopher Hitchens.

[cicero]

You know... this will be kinda legendary.

Lynched.

BEFORE day one.

And... In a game... with Dripping Goofball.

Nice.

[cicero]

Spoilsport.

[cicero]

There appear to be 12 of you... So 7 or so to lynch? Not sure... The vote counter will be here soon...

Why must the Mod always disagree with me. There are only 11 players here I swear.
>.>
<.<

If cicero really wants to be lynched that bad maybe he's the jester. I definitely don't want him to fulfill his win condition.

confirm vote:cicero

Here's a few hints.

1. Jesters are dumb and no one uses them.
2. If I was a jester, voting me would let me fulfill my win condition.
3. I don't have a role pm yet.
4. If people want to lynch me before role pms are even sent out who am I to protest? It would just encourage them anyway so I'd rather be in on the foolish fun.

So sayeth the dude in the toga.

[cicero]

If you hadn't figured it out yet I was joking.

vote: cicero

for not getting the joke

Sorry. I'm so anti-jester now that it blinds me to the obvious.

Vote Guardian

for not starting the game yet.

[cicero]

I just gave myself a double vote power. And since I forgot to unvote last time.

Unvote.
Vote Guardian
VOTE GUARDIAN!!!

[cicero]

Just because you have a double name doesn't mean you get to ignore my double vote!

[cicero]

I agree:

VOTE: Xyzzy... to be banned from GD

[cicero]

Adel = obvscum. Figger it out.

Unvote. Vote Adel

[cicero]

Guardian

: if you are still designing the setup, how about you make cicero a lynchee and everone else a lyncher? Please. After our 13 post day 1, 10 of us will be winners. The 10 of us who are winners can go ahead and play a second game in this thread, while cicero finds another undereducated town that doesn't appreciate him they way he would like to be appreciated.

Do you and I have beef that I don't know about? :S

I thought we were super cool buds n' shit.

You confuse me.

[cicero]

Why the brakets? I'm too

busy

lazy

to go back and figure it out right now.

[cicero]

The phrase "Favorite ABR game" is an oxymoron.

ABR, on the other hand, is just a regular moron.

[cicero]

Cliff notes version? I don't know how it could beat out my experience with him in Doctor Who.

[cicero]

From Doctor Who Mafia

I'm a cop. Or more precisely, I am Doctor Who himself. This is a serious claim. I investigated Cicero Night 0, I found scum. I was role-blocked yesterday while trying to investigate MoS. I breadcrumbed my guilty on Cicero here:

Alright guys, 24 hours til deadline, I am not a cop I am a tracker. Cicero DID visit Adel last night. Throughout this day I was left believing that he was a SK. Now, you have less than 24 hours as of this post to decide what to do with this information.

All comments on my play will land on deaf ears. BTW I call this ploy the reverse Kokusho's Gambit. /joke

Well that is indeed strange as my role is tracker. How often does the town have two?

Also for those who didnt catch the breadcrumb earlier, it was the first letter of each sentance.

I'm Elton Pope.

I am Elton Pope. The Second.

Awesome. Whats up bro?

The final body was also innocent, and had an equally mysterious cause of death, but someone few people would be sorry to see die. For as in reality, as in mafia persona, this body was perhaps the most annoying force ever to reach mass media systems.
Yes, it could only be the irrepressible, ABR.

Albert B. Rampage (Jackie Tyler) - Vanilla Townie has been Killed

I lived.

[cicero]

I don't see packages exactly but I think the mod means this, it's in post two or three:

Surroundings

Day 1
The meter has 12 vertical holes, and 2 pegs are inserted in it, at positions 3 and 5, counting up from the ground.

The TV is on, and fully functional. There is minimal static.

The cage is empty.

Pikachu wanders about, casting small sparks.

The weather is stormy. There is no wind.

[cicero]

I generally operate on the basic principle that massclaiming before the doc(s) seem dead helps scum. After that it helps town.

My role is plenty weird but if I look through it I can certainly see basics of mafia there. This is a forum game there's only so much you can do. So the real question is, what makes this game fundamentally different from other games. What makes the perils of day one claiming any different in this game than in other games. And finally what makes you think it'll help? Mods are getting better and better at making sure their games are mass claim proof. I know of at least one game I'm in, with Adel, where a mass claim has done exactly nothing to help.

[cicero]

NabNab, What did you really expect to come out of that Rogueben vote?

What else would he say?

What do you think of his answer now?

[cicero]

Interesting choice of words, Adel. Are you agreeing with Hasd or telling him he is full of crap?

[cicero]

I believe that Shaft.ed is voting you to test the #3 and #5 theory, Xtoxm. You should claim

if you are in danger of being lynched

. If people are voting you in pursuit of an academic exercise, you might want to be a little slower on the trigger finger.

[cicero]

“Anticipation will heighten your pleasure,” he whispered gravely. “You want to devour, I want you to taste. I want you to think of waiting as its own reward. Waiting is precious. Waiting is gold. In waiting, wishes swell up and become cravings, cravings grow into yearnings, yearnings heat up until they are the very hunger on which you life’s sustenance depends. When at last you reach your goal, taste the dish or kiss the lips, if you rush, you will devalue the wait. Let the wait and the now swirl together into your consciousness, and stretch the moment as much as you can. Allow yourself to become drunk with the moisture, the softness, the wrinkles, the color, the flavor, how eagerly and gently these lips move against your own. The birth of memories you will cherish always.”

I think he wants us to avoid mass claiming? :S

[cicero]

I told you the reason for the story as I saw it. No one commented.

[cicero]

It's not really vague at all. There might be something more to it, but I think Guardian might have gotten worried that a massclaim might break his setup. Which doesnt mean it isn't worth doing, necessarily , but that's what I took from it.

More importantly, what I think it means that more information about the setup will be teased out over time and what we know now is probably incomplete. Consider, for example, the possibility that we don't all have full knowledge of our own roles yet.

If there's more meaning to it, it will come out in the passage of time but it seemed to be a pretty clear message to me. The length of the story and what not is flavor and it might become relevant as we go along.

The other thing to decide is whether the story got triggered by someone getting three votes. We should wagon someone up to five votes and see if it triggers something else. Yes, it can be me. Just be careful, k? :p

[cicero]

Why would you FOS Adel for that? O_O

FOS you for FOSing someone for such a standard thing.

[cicero]

Lawrencelot, if the people who suggested a mass claim are "scummier" then why support it?

I think a mass claim at this point is dumb. It usually helps scum by giving them power role clues. It's great to talk about if there's nothing else to talk about (which I'm making people do in another game where the game got off to an absolutely silent start), but in this setup with these players it's a profoundly misguided idea.

This game may in fact be like that other game. At this point I think its just a "look busy" thign because people have nothing else to talk about. So try. I'm fine with a mass claim including a flavor claim at some point but not when I expect that the big man in charge hasnt even finished doling out the setup.

I'm sorry but I'm not ready to give clues to scum yet in return for reading their safeclaims. Unlike me, they have three role pms to work with and coordinate. And for the love of God, one of the players in this game is

Adel

. She's got the brain of a supercomputer, the slippery morals of a russian politician and the imagination of MC Escher on a meth bender. Not a match up I'm interested in doing on the first day of a game whose theme is "things that don't make sense" in an ipick game where a mischevious Guardian got to decide who is scum.

What if, for example, certain types of roles are grouped with clues in the name?

What if there is a mafia flavor cop who needs your role name to find out if you're the doctor?

I'm really sorry to be a spoilsport kids, but I'm keeping my cards a little closer to my chest for a while until I have a chance to think more about this and get my head around the implications. I'm not saying never to massclaims but I am saying no for the moment

Guardian's game isn't so weird that standard rules of good town play don't apply, and that means dont send info so easily.

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And Lawrencelot, if you mass claim the usual way is popcorn with the scummiest person first and then letting him pick the next person and so on down the line. It accomplishes pretty much the same thing as dice because everyone's perception of the game is different. It may even be superior to dice because you can draw conclusions from who scum picked once dead scum shows up.

.

[cicero]

Harsh? I thought I was exceedingly complimentary. If you want to not be suspicious of Adel, that's your funeral. It's ok. I'll do it for both of us. :p And I didn't make a final conclusion that she has to be scum. Just a conclusion if she and other supporters

are

scum. Mass claim supporters and objectors are bad grounds for deciding who is scum and who isn't anyway. The scum will generally split for tactical reasons, and townies will see the situation differently since there are different schools of thought on the advantageousness of the plan. Simply put, in this setup, at this time, I'm not prepared to go along with one. Yet.

[cicero]

I think I misread you shaft.ed. I thought you were saying that you werent suspicious of Adel. But you are accusing me of not being suspicious of Adel?

That's stupid. Anyone not suspicious of Adel hasn't played with Adel.

[cicero]

Sorry, I'm really busy at work today but I thought Xyzzy proposed the claim?

Anyway, yes. If you think that I don't think it's possible Adel has nefarious motives for supporting the massclaim you are wrong to connect those dots. It's actually weird of you to say. I pretty much thought I raised the spectre of Adel scum pretty loudly in the big post so I dont know what you want me to do differently. I simply don't agree with the proposition that I didnt link the two. I thought I had.

[cicero]

What questions, my friend?

[cicero]

I'll answer this question if a majority of people wish me to do so.

don't answer it.

QFT

[cicero]

These:

Cicero, I'm interested in why you think the Mod still hasn't completed the game? Also, your opinion that people's names might give up clues about their role seems off. We all have roles, so couldn't a player who felt their name gave away something simply state that for themselves? Xtoxm has already admitted his role has nothing to do with his name and I'm willing to admit the same.

You seem to imagine only negative possibilities, when surely you can just as easily imagine positive possibilities in the fashion I did. You seem to believe that scum may have fakeclaims. I'm not sure how common that is, but if the mod was warning us against claiming as you, yourself, interpreted, isn't that a potential sign?

Ah those. Well they seem to be trying to do through the backdoor what I've expressly opposed doing through the front door. You are fishing for information about my role quite brazenly. Actually I pretty much think they deserve a

Vote: Paradox

Maybe everything you've said about roles is consistent with mine. Maybe it's all wrong. Maybe I have reason to agree with you. Maybe I have reason to disagree with you. But I'm not discussing roles - flavor or role - at this time.

I will say the following to everyone:

- you cannot know if your role name will help scum find out your role. You simply

cannot

know that. Because all Guardian has to do is put in a role that says "give me so and so's flavor name and you'll get an answer as to their role". I do not know that such a role is not in this game. Honestly that's a pretty weird role and is unlikely, but this is a weird game so I rule absolutely nothing out. And the more I get pressed to reveal info about my role, the more I have to assume there's a good reason why I shouldnt.

- Safe claims: Sometimes scum have them. Sometimes they do not. The more elaborate the setup, the greater the likelyhood that they have safe claims. This is a fairly elaborate set up.

[cicero]

Yes. Because I cant be bothered to dig up the links for you. but I don't mind if you go find them. They are Food Fight Mafia and Mafia 65 New Vinci, which got abandoned. I think that's it actually.

[cicero]

Is Xtoxm normally like this? O_o Anyone have a meta?

[cicero]

Xtoxm, which game were we in together before? I don't recall you playing this way before. Doctor Who?

[cicero]

I'm the one who quacked her!

[cicero]

Hey all. I'm not V/LA but work and life are hectic for the next bit so my posting frequency, and specifically, depth - are going to be a little un-cicero. Enjoy the breathing room?

[cicero]

Xtoxm: Play better.

Why is Adel scum? I need a reason to vote for her if I'm going to. Try to provide it.

[cicero]

What about it didn't you like? Go look at the post. Make some quote boxes of her and comment on what sentences tweaked you and why they made the alarm bells in your head go off. Seriously, it's a helpful exercise. Do it. And if you already have, link it to me and call me a dumbass. Also a useful exercise, and for many people on the site, refreshingly cathartic.

[cicero]

Fake dayvigging is a town tell?

Oh well then by christ

dayvig...um... vollkan

It's so good that you let me know these things.

Have you MET Adel?

Xyzzy...Adel scumbuddy pairing just went through the fucking roof for me.

[cicero]

Make your point plainly, madam.

[cicero]

I'll post a big ol' post before deadline.

[cicero]

Still applies, Xtoxm.

I've replaced out of one other game. Others are coming to an end. I'm staying in this one. Easter weekend is starting. This'll give me a moment to think and respond to several of the pressing issues in this game. I am acutely aware of the deadline. But please dont sit there just waiting for my analysis anyone. There isnt time for that, and I'm not promising anything OMGWTFBBQ game breaking.

[cicero]

I don't agree that Xyzzy will be as informative a lynch as Adel nd Lawrencelot do. I just re-read him and I see 28 posts about next to nothing at all. No real opinions. Just surfing by. Obviously, I've been pretty quiet myself but that's an other commitments thing. If anyone votes Xyzzy it should be because they figure Xyzzy is lurking scum not because it will be super informative. But there is something here to be addressed in my view.

The entirety of Xyzzy's play:

- Lets massclaim
- Lets massclaim "at some point". the response to my suggestion is "interesting". Interesting is not defined.
- Let's all nameclaim before the end of day one
- "I don't believe Xtoxm's (the Doctor's) claim. It's weird and gimme more flavor info"
- Adel is pro-town for fake day vigging.
- Adel's request for paragraphs is unethical and breaks the spirit of the game.
- people with post restrictions are barred from saying they have them.

So Xyzzy does not present a lot of information we can follow. There is a tenuous connection with Adel and a tenuous un-connection with Xtoxm. So that's a teeny bit of information. Adel is currently voting Xyzzy so for them to be scum together she has to be bussing.

But what Xyzzy does do is slipperily hunt for game mechanic information. He subtly speaks of claiming. Seeming to push for a mass claim or mass name claim without actually pushing really hard for it. At least not in the way I and other people do when they push. (You know, with paragraphs that contain arguments that are drafted in such a manner as to suggest the person has some conviction with respect to the relevant subject matter.)

At the same time though, he is the quickest to chide adel on the question of paradox's paragraph numbers. Which could be moral indignation but it could also be a quick reaction based on some sudden vulnerability that he fears may be exposed through this line of inquiry.

What keeps standing out to me is that his comments are all on claims. claims claims claims. It all keeps coming back to claims.

The picture I'm getting - and I admit it is quite imperfect - is mixed. Is it possibly someone who has a safe claim but worries that the safeclaim will depart in some material way from the pro-town claims? Some sort of flavor cop? A mafia flavor cop who can hunt for power roles if he knows there names.

Xyzzy. You are at L-2 and I'd like some explanations. So since you love claims so much... if you happen to pop in... how about you... claim?

[cicero]

Adel:

Spell "Rogue" right.

Much Love.

Cicero

[cicero]

Keeping this game and Adel's Nightmare straight is hurting my brain.

[cicero]

Agreed. Something doesn't add up.

Guardian is a better mafia player than Mister Flay.

[cicero]

What you think I have a post restriction just because I tell you that guardian is a space zombie that lives on the spinal fluid of young children he kidnaps from out of state winnebagos?

Preposterous.

[cicero]

I think Xyzzy has a reason why he wants the name claim to happen and if he's pro-town he may want to tell us what it is. But I'm not at all sure that he's pro-town. Like I said yesterday, everything with him is about the massclaiming. He isn't even playing mafia. It's clearly something based on his role information. Either that or only being able to talk about massclaiming is his post restriction.

I once saw Guardian juggle seven bowling balls with his tongue.

[cicero]

It's for today. BTW - I don't have to say nice things about Guardian. They have to be "Outrageous Lies about Guardian".

And I just got a post restriction warning - already. :S Apparently my first post of today doesn't count as an "outrageous lie about Guardian". Thanks Guardian. :p (apparently Guardian and I have a difference of opinion on the point...).

If you stand in front of your mirror at home and say Guardian's name five times, He gets summoned into this world and will chase you around your house trying to sell you back issues of Hustler.

[cicero]

By the way, the only substantive things I would have to add right now are the things that have already been said about Xombie. Rereading.

Speaking of zombies, Guardian once made a working catapult out of the dessicated corpses of zombies he had killed. The ammunition he used was hungry kittens.

(I'm actually kind of having fun with this PR but I think I will get sick of it if this day goes on too long. :p )

[cicero]

We have a double voter AND an increased number of votes needed to lynch. That is slightly different than just having a double voter. It is almost a mini kingmaker. It appears designed to make it slightly easier to get a lynch with the double voter on the wagon.

Speaking of Kingmakers, Guardian is Prince William's real biological father.

[cicero]

Vote hasdgfas

Looking for the double vote.

When Guardian walks on a sidewalk, petunias spring up in his wake. Unfortunately he shits dandylions. Yes. Also on the sidewalk.

[cicero]

Cicero is here. He's trying to find time to get his head around this game. Doing Post reads of everyone so he can figure out who the bad guys are. Life keeps interfering.

If you want I can post a hello over and over again though. The problem I'm having isnt time to post it's time to think hard about this game so I can say something useful. I really am sorry for not being my normal self but Guardian's game is a mindfuck. I'm trying hard to do it though. I hate lurkers so please understand I hate being one. I will give you a broadside worth of stuff to criticize, scrutinize, poke and prod asap.

Guardian turned down the opportunity to be the lead in the new knight rider series because Gilbert Gottfried wasnt going to play KITT.

[cicero]

I have time to post here no problem. Until I finish my re-read or get that cribsheet adel wants too, I dont have anything worth saying. Especially when I have to think up an outrageous lie. Posting in GD is easy and I have a handle on what is going on in Adel's nightmare - the only other game I'm in. So yeah. Vote away if you want. I'm trying to avoid requesting replacement if I can, especially since this is a Guardian game.

I still don't understand why everyone is so in to claiming but my PM says that if a specific thing happens scum will win. I dont have any interest in that happening and I can only assume that other people hungry for claims have similar hints.

Guardian is made of Doritos but somehow doesnt smell of cheese.

[cicero]

See - none of that made sense. I'm too all over the place.

I meant especially since this is an IPICK game. And, for the "duh" set, outrageous lie refers to my post restriction.

Guardian is a machete wielding film director from Tibet who wants to stay with China.

[cicero]

As a matter of fact I've had quite enough of this giant fishing exercise of a mafia game.

Unvote. Vote Xyzzy.

Do something else besides rolefish or GTFO.

Guardian likes to fish... for humans... the most dangerous, err, fish, of them all.

[cicero]

So Xyzzy is a mystery role. Throwing around post restrictions. Wants everyone to nameclaim since the beginning of the game. Won't tell us why. I have info about claims leading to a scum win... and I'm looking scummier.

OK then.

Guardian rubs marmots on himself before he goes clubbing. Best cologne in the world, he says.

[cicero]

This stinks to high heaven to me right now. I would vote Lawrencelot, OMGUS be damned, but I'm already voting Xyzzy.

Xyzzy's entire game has pretty much been to come in and push for claims. And his name isn't Pie Is Good.

If you have an idea why massclaiming is good, share it with the class. Xyzzy wont.

I have reason to believe a mass claim would be bad based on information provided by the mod - which makes me suspect rolefishers a great deal in this game.

I'll happily handle some votes on me, but why exactly is Xyzzy earning your BotD, Lawrencelot? Knowing info on scum winning might make me scummy, but warning you not to mass claim certainly doesn't.

Am I the only one with tidbits of info from the moderator? I'm willing to bet that I'm not.

Guardian actually is a Guardian...well he's a security Guard... at a women's prison. But somehow he still can't get no satisfaction.

[cicero]

Lawrencelot: I've been unwilling to assume that I know the ONLY mechanisms for scum to win. There are clearly triggers in this game. And I can limit certain triggers by just keeping my mouth shut.

BOTD is Benefit of the Doubt.

Also, you believe Xyzzy's claim. So what? Why is that important exactly. What conclusions are you drawing from it?

Massclaiming will not be good for town because I cannot be assured that other triggers do not exist in this game. I will not be name or role claiming at this point and recommend that others do not either. Especially with someone as claim hungry as Xyzzy is in the game.

When Guardian isn't at school his summer job is Circus Elephant. He gets paid peanuts.

[cicero]

Massclaiming will not be good for town because I cannot be assured that other triggers do not exist in this game. I will not be name or role claiming at this point and recommend that others do not either. Especially with someone as claim hungry as Xyzzy is in the game.

Can you at least claim
or not claim to be Triforce?
Nibbler is so smart

I'm not sure what part of "not claiming" is challenging to grasp tbh.

BTW It is breath of the dying. Not breadth. Why would Diablo care about how fat dead people are?

Guardian invented Chuck Norris Jokes after a night of passionate lovemaking with the Texas Ranger himself. Not amused, Chuck Norris punched Guardian in the face with that fist he hides under his chin.

[cicero]

I'm not sure what part of "not claiming" is challenging to grasp tbh.

Ill take that as yes
fat people love diablo
Nibbler jumps real high

This would not be a safe assumption.

Guardian doesn't assume. Because it makes an ass out of him and melissa ethbridge.

[cicero]

Holy WIFOM, Batman.

Guardian toured as the drummer in the famous rockband, Batman and the Robins.

[cicero]

Yes. verrrrrry suspicious. Not claiming. My death is preferable. bye.

Guardian is Adel's dad. and her mom!

[cicero]

Shrug. You could always put the game on pause. We could reconvene in May.

Guardian reconvened in May once. Can, Should and Would were all left bloody and dying on the floor as a result.

[cicero]

why on earth would a town-aligned shaft.ed reveal that? that is exactly the kind of information I sit on so I can catch scum.

That is pure flavor
Available to us all
Nibbler has nice eyes

Im confused. I thought you were saying that you were referencing special information in your pm. How is it flavor available to all?

Guardian is an avatar of Shiva, but his third eye mostly just watches porno all day.

[cicero]

Why is it that all you do is ask for claims?

[cicero]

This game is annoying. All I hear:

Claim.

No.

Claim.

No.

I would quit but I am saddled with a post restriction and now one more strike left on it and that wouldnt be fair. But if all this game is is push for a mass claim and when asked not say why I'm quitting at the end of the day assuming I'm still alive.

Guardian has aunts in his pants. Pronounce it anyway so it rhymes. They're both funny.

[cicero]

Yes Adel... you are so above us all in your magic, mystery, strategems and wisdom.

Really you just aren't reading the game.

But anyway. One day PR. Tell an outrageous lie about guardian in every post. He didnt think the first one counted where I just basically insulted him by saying He was better mafia player than Flay. And just now I responded testily to Xyzzy (which he AGAIN ignored) and forgot to put in the PR.

Guardian was once Batman's boy sidekick. He says working for Batman was like being an alterboy in a 1950s catholic parish but without the benefit of red wine.

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I received my prod. I still think Xyzzy is the play. He likes to ignore all my questions.

Guardian is starring opposite Daniel Radcliffe in Equus on Brodway this summer... as the horse. Nudity required. He's excited. This is also the reason for rule 9.75.

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Hey everybody! Did you know that accidentally hitting the escape key will delete your whole post? motherfucker.

@Shaft.ed - I know you are gimped by haiku, but to the best of your ability, please expand. How exactly is this something you wouldnt do as scum? Which mistake in particular. Scum wouldnt try to kill a doctor? You play exactly the same as scum every time? How many times have you and Adel been scum together?

@Adel - How did shaft.ed "press" you. He's writing in haiku for chrissakes. Were you pinned to the mat by haiku? You wouldnt even be in this situation if your play wasnt to pop in. Say something inscrutable and then pop out. No wonder you've been lynched 12 times as a townie.

Also Adel, my post restriction is not as easy as it looks. Unlike Shaft.ed's, mine precludes repetition and Guardian has stressed (in his first warning) that the lie has to be outrageous. Fairly elaborate. So this does slow my posting as time goes on. What's your excuse?

Guardian was once bitten by a radioactive spider. He didn't develop super powers. He just used it as his inspiration for naming his electronica group: Radioactive Spider. They're huge in Belgium.

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Cicero is already voting for Xyzzy. This is good.

Telling lies about Guardian makes me post less, for the last time!!!

At Guardian's bar mitzvah his parents set up a shrine to Adel which he still keeps in his closet. He hangs his underwear on all the arms and his neckties around her neck.

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How exactly is this something you wouldnt do as scum?

I play ultra town
when scum Adel should know this
Nibbler has nice eyes

Adel. Care to comment?

Also Adel, you were voting Shaft.ed then you made a list of who you would lynch and Shaft.ed's name wasnt on it. Why not?

In the Oxford English dictionary the fifth meaning of the word bastard is just a picture of Guardian grinning while thinking of post restrictions.

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I think Adel is far scummier than Xyzzy. I'm not happy at all with his play, but it's no good going after someone for inactivity so late in the day.

I'm unsatisfied with Adel's defenses and reponse to preassure. I think she's grown more and more desperate, throwing suspicion all around. But for some reason, all the preassure has stalled.

unvote, vote: Adel

Xyzzy isnt being "inactive" he's being deliberately inactive. There's a difference.

Guardian wanted to make a difference once. That was the beginning of the great Burmese poisoned rice epidemic of '04.

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Ola! Sorry for mostly sucking in this game. I actually didnt like the way it went down for most of the time. The game seemed to just be about claiming which bugged me. Especially since I felt that my role gave me away as scum. (The evil part of the zelda triforce). That'll teach me though. Kison is awesome. I handed him a giant ball of shit and he made a shit sculpture and sold it to the MOMA for a million dollars. Kison rules.

Xyzzy's play was really weird in this game. I dont know him that well but all he would do the whole game was come in and ask to claim then leave again. I managed to get him lynched even while sucking and being too busy to play the game.

Shaft.ed - The PRing was an experiment. Vollkan decided to target you for whatever reason, and I just decided to hit the same target as Vollkan in order to increase the chance of a modkilling. It didnt really work though. The haikus just made you more careful. And it had an easy out. You could be off by a syllable and still survive. Too bad because I counted you being off and tried to get you killed. As for you - why not you? . You're more than good enough to hobble no matter what your town record says. Ironically though, I think the funniest thing I can say about this game is that doing haikus actually improved your play! You were SO dangerous with the haiku. You had to say everything so succinctly. You couldnt mince words. And you couldnt even make weaknesses in your own arguments. It was funny to watch.

Xtoxm - great to have you in the game. You were smart and you were involved. I didnt like how quickly you got to be a confirmed townie. The other thing though is you really gotta stop your habit of doing three posts in a row with one sentence each. lol. pretty please?

Adel - Sorry babe. Got distracted by life and let you down. You seemed distracted too though. Was it just the nature of this game?

Guardian - I love the Dripping Goofball twist. A lot. I really thought the part of IPick where you modkilled someone was petty and shitty. I am thrilled to find out that that wasnt what was going on at all. So awesome. And it was there to be figured out in 9.75 for sure. I incorrectly came to the conclusion that 9.75 was just a red herring and that harry potter wasnt in the game. I might have claimed him myself if I had continued.

Guardian - how did you expect smart scum would use the triforce auto win information? was it just there to screw over shaft.ed? I asked you if the info was actually true and when you said yes I just couldnt get past the idea that I was telling town how to win. I should have thought it through and went with it, but like I said, I was distracted.

Thats all for now. I'll think of more later.

Oh and Guardian, in future games I recommend using the first post in the thread to announce who is playing, who is alive, who is dead, and what their roles were - as many mods do. I constantly looked to figure out who was still alive and such and didnt know. That bugged me. I have my forum set up to display the first post at the top of every page and that info is very helpful for me.

Thanks for a great game. Sorry I didnt rise to the challenge. Way to go Kison!

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I like your breadcrumbs idea, Lawrencelot. I dont know how to action that as a mod but I hope you manage to do it in some game in the future. You could make a power role need to leave a breadcrumb each day if they want to use their power, for example. (not necessarily a good idea. just the first one that popped into my little head.)

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And you survived this attack, riiight? Because Mafiascum will be less entertaining without you?

QFT

QFTHREE

(although I wouldnt blame anyone for taking a break. I'm about to.)

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Haha

:twitch: I CAN QUIT WENEVR I WAAAAAANT!!! :hiccup:

Seriously, I just need to finish up Adel's nightmare. Then I'm all out of games. I'll still be around in mafia discussion and general discussion so you'll think I'm not taking a break. But believe me, I'll be taking a break. We'll see when and if I'll come back. I've been playing in at least one mafia game (and for a while in a lot of them) since June of last year. In addition recently I played as scum in this other mafia game off site that involved board mafia plus AIM chatting constantly with over 30 other players plus a very, um, active and challenging moderator. While this was indeed epic fun, I'm exhausted. Plus I live in Canada and the weather just got nice. I'm going to try to find some excuse to go outside and play. Maybe lose a few pounds.

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Edit: And oh yeah, I haven't modded yet and I'm creeping up the mini normal queue. So that'll be my next project. Getting my mod privileges sometime later this summer. Stay tuned!