Mini 1928 - Villain Mafia - GAME OVER

[CommKnight]

Now this seems fun. Last time I played a similar set-up all the mafia (Town players) had mafia PRs and there were two other factions that were working against the mafia (Town).

But glad to see it only looks like 1 mafia faction this game. Anyway, gonna ISO a few people to get the gist of events. I won't read anything after this post until I finish my ISO's.

[CommKnight]

So I did catch up on a few things and I think both Fitz and Fuzzy are town so far from what I've seen. From what I understand the 3 hydras are in a neighbourhood (which will be revealed how many scum are in it D3), there's a claimed vigilante and people are pushing crud all. I mean for the amount of posts in this game so far, you'd think there'd be more. But some of these posts are literally a waste of time to read.

I'm going to have to go ahead and VOTE: Scorpius. He seems like the only candidate today that might not be a mislynch.

Gotta run for work. Unfortunately the deadline is before I get home. But if someone would like to catch me up on main key events either before deadline or tomorrow when the sun rises, that'd be great so I can begin sorting people into more solid reads.

[CommKnight]

So fuzzy was town/survivor. The Self Voyeur might've actually helped us later on if someone fake claimed a role and visited Fuzzy.

So 2 flips... With the SK part not activated yet (we assume), and Scorpius claiming it's a slow kill effect... That'd mean there are 4 total killers in the game. No thanks, I don't believe he'd go that far.

Also my initial comment on there being only one scum faction, I thought I read it somewhere but guess I was wrong, looks like a massive multi-ball game.

I also notice that there's multiple one-shot abilities going around so going to..

VOTE: Scorpious I think this is scum. The claim is bad and he should feel bad (a poisoner is usually a anti-town role). Though I suppose this IS mafia as town... Hmmm... what did he initially claim?

[CommKnight]

I think policy is the stupid part of it. But Scorpious, you probably should've vigged who town asked you to vig.

[CommKnight]

@Radical Rat, what is your case on Fitz?

[CommKnight]

UNVOTE: - Will explain later.

[CommKnight]

So Treble, I don't think it's been answered clearly yet. But do you find out how many scum in the DAY tomorrow? As in can you tell us after tonight?

[CommKnight]

With that out of the way....

VOTE: Madvillains
Since the neighborhood never existed at all, I find myself heavily suspicious of him tacking himself on there. I get why RC made the hood claim, and I get why L&T faked masonizer to begin with, but I don't understand trying to insert yourself into such a claim.
My theory is that you knew the claim wasn't real (which makes sense seeing as L&T just straight claimed masonizer before RC changed it), and knew they wouldn't be able to call you out without first outing themselves as faking the neighborhood.

VOTE: Madvillains

This is what I was thinking as well but I wasn't sure if I missed something in the claim. I admit I haven't read the entire game, just skimmed through parts. So I didn't want to jump to conclusions.

But right now my theory is there is one more anti-town out there that isn't mafia. It sure isn't Scorpious. Why? because we have 2 N1 kills. One being from mafia and one being from SK. Those are explainable. So to assume we have THREE anti-town killers? That's just nuts. But whatever Madvillains is, the flip will show why he faked it.

[CommKnight]

Also... @Scorpious. I need to know exactly what night your kill falls on.. No bullshitting me either, it's an all or nothing move that I'll be making and I can't do it too early or too late. I need to know, which night Treble will die.

[CommKnight]

Also... @Scorpious. I need to know exactly what night your kill falls on.. No bullshitting me either, it's an all or nothing move that I'll be making and I can't do it too early or too late. I need to know, which night Treble will die.

N3, if I'm not mistaken. Though I have to advise against that all or nothing move of yours.

Well, do you TR Treble enough to want the kill to not happen?

[CommKnight]

Now I'm curious if Radical Rat know what I can do.

[CommKnight]

Well... I am going to delay on it. It might be too late for Treble unless we got someone who can counter the attack somehow.

[CommKnight]

@TTH

So there's 13 players total in the beginning.

It's reasonable to assume a 2-3 person mafia team depending on powers they have.

Now we have 1 SK flip and a townie that could also become 3rd party in a LYLO situation.

Now let's just assume 3 mafiaso for now, take out the SK and potential 3rd party survivor and you'd be left with 8 townies. Well... we only need 7 townies for balance (because if you start the game with town outnumbered it becomes unfair for town as they are suppose to be the uninformed majority. So it stands to reason, a possible other 3rd party exists. Fuzzy wasn't a true third party, only potential 3rd party, so another may yet exist.

Now then, it doesn't make sense to have 3 mafia, 1 SK and 1 other 3rd party killer. That just doesn't make sense and for the SK and the other 3rd party it'd be unfair to be against 3 mafia and a town full of PRs. So that clears Scorpious of being 3rd party I believe and the night had a mafia kill so he isn't mafia.

At least, that's my theory.

On Madvillains... why would town try to hide in that fake claim? Only scum would try to do that, whether he's mafia or 3rd party.

[CommKnight]

@TTH, I have to think about 3rd parties. 3rd parties essentially do not care if town wins and some are even anti-town as in they can only win if town loses.

[CommKnight]

If I need scorpious to happen I can make it happen.
do you agree that Scorpious is the most likely person in game to flip scum right now?

Actually, no. It's not going to happen. He's not scum dude. Everything points to him being town. SK is dead, mafia made a kill. Scorpious isn't dying today.

[CommKnight]

SK is dead, mafia made a kill.

How are either of these relevant to Scorpius' alignment?

You'd have to argue that Scorpios is another 3rd party killer or that he's a mafia with an ability to get an additional delayed kill for mafia. That or you have to admit he's town.

Really, which argument do you want to go with here?

[CommKnight]

You only think though. Even if he is, there's other scum out there to find. It's time to put on your thinking cap and for now treat Scorpious like he's town. (Because he ain't being lynched today). He's very likely town.

[CommKnight]

I'd like to think he's town this game, but guess we'll see eventually.

Fastposted once. I just don't see Scorpious being scum in this scenario and the push on him feels completely for the wrong reasons. A game like this and not have a town vig? Hell, he could also be bluffing. A delayed vig shot is iffy for either alignment and he might actually be a jailkeeper or some version of a visiting/blocking role.

[CommKnight]

I'd like to think he's town this game, but guess we'll see eventually.

[CommKnight]

Does it Treble?

Havingfitz

(5): TellTaleHeart, Treblesome, Carcalilly, Madvillain, Radical Rat

Madvillain

(2): Commknight, HavingFitz

Not Voting:

Scorpious
Steel
Antitown

With 10 alive it's 6 to lynch

Day ends in (expired on 2017-08-11 10:00:00)

Scorpious and Steel are now on Madvillain as well. If Madvillain flips town, I'd help lynch Fitz tomorrow, but you're claiming scum are piling onto Madvillain? 4 people = a pile of scum? Please do go on how you scumread Scorpious, Steel and myself. That's a sure fucking fire way to make sure you never receive town majority going into future days. Honestly I was going to see if I could save you Treble, but you might actually be scum so I'm not going to bother. You deserve this.

For those who don't understand. In Treble's lie. Madvillains AND the now dead SK agreed to that lie. So I think the policy of LYNCH ALL LIARS applies very well here.

[CommKnight]

But you never denied it. That's the problem I'm having. Not only that, but you still have not fully claimed what your ability even does. Just keep mentioning that you love it.

[CommKnight]

It's sorta sad you let RC sucker you into it TTH. Because I said I wouldn't use it. I also said Scorpious was town. You guys just needed to not let scum control your votes.

[CommKnight]

But it wasn't just on you man. People keep believing RC over me.

[CommKnight]

Also here's my question... IF I used my lightning rod when my role had no MILLER augmentation to it, why did people not go with the guilty? That should've been a dead giveaway since I would've came back as innocent.