Mini 1935: Green Haired UPick (Game Over)

[Nazeebo]

VOTE: Gus

so many familiar faces but I picked you.

[Nazeebo]

V/LA until tuesday

[Nazeebo]

I guess I should read this game now that I'm sober

[Nazeebo]

VOTE: Gus

so many familiar faces but I picked you.

<3 love you for this.

[Nazeebo]

then i dont rly think anything can be read so far.
so far im townreading lucky and kingmaker and scumreading tucker.
VOTE: tucker

want to explain these? I got nothing up till now.

Edit: okay I got lucky and king from reading newer posts. Why did you originally scumread tucker though?

the mafia here

Just for the record, if this wasn't RC I would vote this.

Also, I have no clue who you would have picked, which is weird...

- Ari

Hi Ari! why would you vote this and why does RC get away with it.

Town Lucky doesn't have to vote themselves. No one has to do anything, but you addressed it in a way that was concerned about your appearance. In unrelated news, bitcoin value has surged above $4k!

I dislike this post. Grasping at straws for a scumread here. Then again, nothing really happened so maybe it's fine. I'll decide at some point.

Hmmm two millers idk about that. What's more likely: two millers, or scum claiming miller to avoid a check and mislynch me? Two for one deal seems awfully tempting VOTE: TwoInAMillion

Also I kinda agree with lucky re: randomidget, it does seem like a setup to throw out townreads with no weight then say it was to advance the game when questioned

I don't like that first part about scum claiming miller like that. I now have to scumread you. Sorry.

It's the tone and confidence behind it that bothers me. Like you're really sure of yourself here when I don't think it's warranted. There's no hint of skepticism or doubt and it seems like you're pushing an agenda.

Is there a big list of previously run games and their setups that you looked at? I too have looked at the wiki and it doesn't mention anything about the commonality of multiple millers.

Why would an actual miller not be extremely skeptical about another miller claim? I don't see anything wrong with his push here.

Actually I'd like flavor claims from both millers here.

EDIT: okay we got these. I don't know the japanese fella

As someone who once replaced into an unclaimed miller slot in a game with 2 millers, I'm gonna suggest we let them place each other while we get on with the rest of the standard day 1 antics, then revisit them later when they have more developed opinions on each other.

Oh and also
VOTE: Radiant Cowbells

-jj

Why not lynch a scummy miller slot?

Tarkus's reaction sucks though, regardless of anything else

This so much

btw people shouldnt be associative scumreading jjh and tarkus here bc jjh knows that he cant indefinitely stop a tarkus lynch and defending him would make himself look bad. not saying there isnt scum in there, but i doubt both are

this is a towny post

If we can prove that he in fact has a nightkill, I'm perfectly comfortable with never lynching Tarkus and making it mafia's problem whether they kill him.

are you saying 3P or am I reading this wrong?

[Nazeebo]

can we get a replacement for Tucker please? ty

[Nazeebo]

then i dont rly think anything can be read so far.
so far im townreading lucky and kingmaker and scumreading tucker.
VOTE: tucker

want to explain these? I got nothing up till now.

Edit: okay I got lucky and king from reading newer posts. Why did you originally scumread tucker though?

I didn't like his reaction to Lucky's vote. felt like they were worried pressure there would dissolve and wanted to keep it up. combined with a lucky townread this makes me think they were trying to avoid attention falling onto their team.

you mean Lucky voting RC? I'm confused

[Nazeebo]

UNVOTE: Agree with Post 135 and Post 141
I think randomidget Post 145 is unlikely, I don't think tucker's a newbie so why would he worry that a rvs wagon was going to dissolve?
I like RC's Post 33 since I agree with it but would like him to answer Post 63. Are you really that confident with you read on Cookie?
Tarkus' Post 94 bothers me since immediately voted TIAM after his claim.
I dislike Cookie's Post 109 because he want's to ignore the miller situation so we can get to day 1 antics but nothings been happening this game.
Beeboy's Post 125/126 is lacking in content.
Nazeebo could you expand on your problem with Post 85 as what your scum reading him for is pretty reasonable.

-Shawn

My problem is that he immediately tries to look for reasons why TwoInAMillion could be scum instead of looking for reasons why he could be town. It has a feel of "oh shit I got caught, I better try and get out of this somehow"

[Nazeebo]

If we can prove that he in fact has a nightkill, I'm perfectly comfortable with never lynching Tarkus and making it mafia's problem whether they kill him.

are you saying 3P or am I reading this wrong?

[Nazeebo]

busy weekend, I'll be around tonight

[Nazeebo]

My problem is that he immediately tries to look for reasons why TwoInAMillion could be scum instead of looking for reasons why he could be town. It has a feel of "oh shit I got caught, I better try and get out of this somehow"

You could say that about TIAM too though or any scum read. Are you getting that feel from this post alone or is it a combination of his posts?

Fuck, actual bona-fide confirmation bias there probably means you're town. Like, that "line of reasoning" can only exist because you're so certain no logical person could disagree with you.
-jj

Confirmation bias is easy to fake and is not a town-tell. Could you also explain why you scum read him in the first place?

-Shawn

I think the reaction to the second miller claim feels off. I don't feel the same way about TIAM at all. How do you read the reaction then?

[Nazeebo]

Why are you interested in pushing a claimed vigilante?

Gut scum reading randomidget

Interesting transition

then i dont rly think anything can be read so far.
so far im townreading lucky and kingmaker and scumreading tucker.
VOTE: tucker

want to explain these? I got nothing up till now.

Edit: okay I got lucky and king from reading newer posts. Why did you originally scumread tucker though?

I didn't like his reaction to Lucky's vote. felt like they were worried pressure there would dissolve and wanted to keep it up. combined with a lucky townread this makes me think they were trying to avoid attention falling onto their team.

you mean Lucky voting RC? I'm confused

I meant joke not vote sorry

didn't lucky's joke happen after Tucker's vote?
Sorry this is really old but I do think it's an interesting fact.

[Nazeebo]

rando starts feeling off.
I like 1SVT actually. Don't get why people are voting him. Please explain better.

I'd sheep RC but jj is actually able to be obvtown so I'm not going to.

I'd lynch Tarkus or rando right now.

[Nazeebo]

Why are you interested in pushing a claimed vigilante?

Gut scum reading randomidget

Interesting transition

then i dont rly think anything can be read so far.
so far im townreading lucky and kingmaker and scumreading tucker.
VOTE: tucker

want to explain these? I got nothing up till now.

Edit: okay I got lucky and king from reading newer posts. Why did you originally scumread tucker though?

I didn't like his reaction to Lucky's vote. felt like they were worried pressure there would dissolve and wanted to keep it up. combined with a lucky townread this makes me think they were trying to avoid attention falling onto their team.

you mean Lucky voting RC? I'm confused

I meant joke not vote sorry

didn't lucky's joke happen after Tucker's vote?
Sorry this is really old but I do think it's an interesting fact.

yeah it did. tucker then continued to push lucky which is what i was talking about.

this is probably the point where I think you made a mistake and tunnel you for the rest of the game because town never makes mistakes and you end up flipping town because town makes mistakes all the time and I feel terrible.
So I'm going to leave it at that.

[Nazeebo]

I like 1SVT actually. Don't get why people are voting him. Please explain better.

I already did. Explain why you like 1SVT

what's not to like? He's pushing what needs to be pushed.
Sorry I don't share your gutread. Unless I missed any of your reasoning?

[Nazeebo]

@Nazeebo

, I don't like Tarkus either but for different reasons. First thing he does when TIAM claims miller is votes him but then in Post 94 he doesn't think TIAM's should be that confident in his vote.

@Chickadee

, Can you explain what puts randomidget in the town pile. Would also appreciate if you could explain your scum read on tuckers and subsequent town read on WhyMafia. I agree with you on RC as a slight town lean for his Post 36.

@1SVT

, Why can't we go into day two with two miller claims?

why not vote Tarkus then? Why rando over a scummy Miller?

[Nazeebo]

fair enough.

[Nazeebo]

VOTE: cookie

5th vote if I can count. Don't be too sure about that

[Nazeebo]

I can also do rando so I get to be friends with RC for now. Lucky me

[Nazeebo]

rando starts feeling off.
I like 1SVT actually. Don't get why people are voting him. Please explain better.

I'd sheep RC but jj is actually able to be obvtown so I'm not going to.

I'd lynch Tarkus or rando right now.

Who are you, when have we played together and what game was I obvtowning?


Cookie responded, but isn't sure what he's doing yet. I'm trying to badger him about reads but we both have work and he has a better sleeping pattern than me so it's difficult to talk about anything in real time. If someone who scumreads me wants to 1V1 that would be good for us both, I think

-jj

Arnold Schwarzenegger, aka Radja, at your service. Talking about thisgame.

[Nazeebo]

No, because he should know that a second miller claim is likely town.

I actually agree with this.

[Nazeebo]

twoinamillion's recent posts have been scummy as shit

what's scummy about them?

[Nazeebo]

Two in a million wagon is profoundly stupid and there's no reason for you to be voting that.

^this

[Nazeebo]

Other people are playing it too. You're not our babysitter.

If you want to talk to me about reads rest assured I will listen the fuck out of whatever you have to say. I would love to engage with you more.
I will not, however, allow you to go past me on a wagon that I don't support and lynch it and that's not going to be something that I am going to start allowing to happen.

as much as I agree with your assessment of TIAM being town, you shouldn't bully people off a wagon like this. Allow others to play this game too. This isn't the RC show. I know you mean well but tone it down a little.

[Nazeebo]

I still think that Cookie is scum.

I'm not sure. I still have them at null. I'm glad jj is posting now, I think I can read him.
rando bothers me more tbh

[Nazeebo]

Like, don't just say 'oh TIAN did all this stuff' because I read it and came to the conclusion that you all are barking up the wrong team and my scumreads may be inconsistent but my townreads are solid as fuck.
If you think that I'm missing something, if you think that there's something actually scummy about him: please go ahead and enlighten me. I will listen.
I miss the melodic sound of your voice and the times I spend with you are the moments that I treasure the most in this game <3

TIAM says he vote Cookie because he hasn't scum hunted and that Cookie voted his town read. Cookies vote on you happened in Post 109, I asked TIAM of he had any other reads in Post 204 he answered with Post 206 which read to me like he doesn't have any more reads and he needs more content to generate reads. I asked him again in Post 216 if he found anything AI and he did not answer. So when he comes in and says that he town read you in Post 353 I find it hard to believe. So his vote on Cookie doesn't make sense and looks like he wanted to lynch the leading wagon and retroactively came up with reasons to justify it. I don't know how you can possibly town read his play. The only thing that he had going for him was his claim but he did not realise that Tarkus was a miller, I had to point it out.

do you see scum TIAM fakeclaiming miller when there's already a miller claim out there? If you're going to fakeclaim miller, you at least check if nobody else claimed already right?

[Nazeebo]

Town: RadiantCowbells, iDanyBoy, Tarkus
Townleans: Randomidget Whymafia, Chickadee
Null: Beeboy, Nazeebo, 1 Shot Vanilla Town, Lucky2u
Scumleans: Esires
Scumreads: TwoInAMillion

Ask me about specific reads rather than making me give reasons for everything at once, please.

Speed of my wagon is justified considering your case and I don't think there's necessarily a lot of scum on it just because it went fast

-jj

walk me through esires being scum.

[Nazeebo]

I have both of them as null.

I think dany is town and beeboy hasn't done anything.

I'd rather give jj more time to town it up. Considering the deadline is only like a day away I can go with Whymafia if it needs to be done.

[Nazeebo]

VOTE: Whymafia

Okay let's do it.

[Nazeebo]

Why not rando RC?

[Nazeebo]

For some reason I thought the deadline was less than a day.

Whymafia:
Why would scum want to push for a miller lynch right now, when there's so many valid other (inactive) targets to choose from?
And what's wrong with the cookie wagon other than it building fast? Was there any reason not to join this wagon? What did you think of RC's case on Cookie?

[Nazeebo]

For some reason I thought the deadline was less than a day.

Whymafia:
Why would scum want to push for a miller lynch right now, when there's so many valid other (inactive) targets to choose from?
And what's wrong with the cookie wagon other than it building fast? Was there any reason not to join this wagon? What did you think of RC's case on Cookie?

A) Pushing an inactive slot can really backfire later in the game.
B) I already said what I viewed on RC's case

If you want to get lynched this is the way to do it.

[Nazeebo]

Nazeebo, agree or disagree that if Randomidget is in fact scum, Cookie makes way more sense as the scumpartner if they're not all scum?

I'd rather not get into associations before I get to see a flip. I'm not really sure I see it though.
rando feels off.
I was hoping jj was town but his inability to commit to this game unless he's in immediate danger is worrying me.

VOTE: Cookie

have it your way.

[Nazeebo]

V/LA for the weekend

I'll try and check in tomorrow in case I need to move my vote

[Nazeebo]

It must be Two in a Million, right? The vig claim is legit and Two is still going for Tarkus?

vote: TwoInAMillion

I don't get this. how is this a legit claim? Why can't he be 3P?

[Nazeebo]

Null: Beeboy, Nazeebo, 1 Shot Vanilla Town, Lucky2u

I feel like there's at least 1 scum in here, leaning towards Naz and 1SVT

haha good one. try again

[Nazeebo]

VOTE: esires

Pretty sure this is scum.

His day opening was terrible. And Cookie's behavior around him was really weird. Cookie scumread esires early in the game, when I asked him to walk me through that read, I never got an answer. He later moved esires to null for ??? reasons but never really interacted with him.

Seems like a really crappy bus attempt by Cookie tbh. I'd love to see this get rope.

[Nazeebo]

you guys are running up the wrong guy.

esires is where it's at.

[Nazeebo]

also have some personal stuff going on this week. So apologies for being absent.

[Nazeebo]

VOTE: esires

still scum

[Nazeebo]

- I hammered a scum PR when I could have let it go to a no lynch instead

- I have been saying Chick was scum from like the first time I posted after she entered the game

I guess if you think I'm bussing harder than anyone's ever bussed, go ahead and lynch me, but I feel like I'm cleared for all intents and purposes at this point in the game.

You hammered for towncredit
You scumread your partner out of the gates to distance yourself from them.
Then you tried to get towncredit for scumreading them when they flipped scum.

I already explained how Cookie bussed you in an earlier post.

Come on people this game isn't hard. Lynch esires. If the game doesn't end Lynch Tarkus.

[Nazeebo]

VOTE: esires

Pretty sure this is scum.

His day opening was terrible. And Cookie's behavior around him was really weird. Cookie scumread esires early in the game, when I asked him to walk me through that read, I never got an answer. He later moved esires to null for ??? reasons but never really interacted with him.

Seems like a really crappy bus attempt by Cookie tbh. I'd love to see this get rope.

This post was where I explained Cookie bussing esires

[Nazeebo]

Really? The lurkers are more likely to be scum and trying to hide amongst the other lurkers.

There are only lurkers in this game. There are also players who aren't around at all in the game. I'd rather lynch an actual scumread over a random lynch.

Lynch esires and end the most inactive game in the history of ms.

[Nazeebo]

TBH I wouldn't mind being lynched just so Nazeebo can see how wrong he is, and how sometimes townie actions are actually done for townie reasons.

good, please selfvote because not enough players are around to actually vote you

[Nazeebo]

Cookie bussing me is NAI for me, just for Cookie. Wouldn't be surprised if our final scum is Nazeeb TBH.

I don't get that first sentence. Did you just admit he bussed you?

[Nazeebo]

I'm still here. esires is still scum. Ari, read my last couple of posts why esires is scum, lynch him and end the game. Thanks bro