Mini 1947: Board Game uPick: The Expansion! Game Over

[TwoInAMillion]

Hi everyone what's up?

[TwoInAMillion]

I have a personal wiki if anyone is interested.

[TwoInAMillion]

hi .000002!

I'm simplifying of course.

Are you a scientist or engineer in real life?

[TwoInAMillion]

What's everyone's favorite board game? Mine is risk.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't like hydras for the record.

[TwoInAMillion]

That is the subtext that I am getting.

Do you try to change your meta from game to game?

[TwoInAMillion]

I am getting a defensive vibe from mad king

VOTE: mad king ashnard

[TwoInAMillion]

More votes on king. He is defensive and his questioning is more not helpful than helpful.

[TwoInAMillion]

Sorry was I missing the part where scum decided to all open on me?

I'm town.

[TwoInAMillion]

Sorry was I missing the part where scum decided to all open on me?

I'm town.

Then don't vote me.

I would if I thought you were on my team but I dont.

[TwoInAMillion]

I would if I thought you were on my team but I dont.

That's your problem, not mine.[/quote]

Not if you're lynched.

[TwoInAMillion]

I am not mm576 but he is my brother I'm not sure how isolating him helps.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't buy the "mafia didn't leave an impression with me" that's a load of crap. You would have been criticized for not taking winning seriously etc.

[TwoInAMillion]

...So what you think I'm lying about how much I remember from mafia in 2013 and 2014? @_@

Yes.

[TwoInAMillion]

I feel good about my vote, MKA's name calling is not pro town.

[TwoInAMillion]

ActionDan and Arcade, could you be persueded to join my wagon?

[TwoInAMillion]

Can't remember who, but someone asked me about scum reads so far. I'm knee deep in tabs, so by time I find it I'll probably be mostly done with this post. So instead of specifically scum reads, here's a list of where I am currently. Up to this point I haven't taken the game seriously at all.

morph the cat (Cabd + fferyllt) - Town lean, they seem genuine and very open to discussion. However experience with them is admittedly limited. Only played with them as town.
Porkens - Gut says town, mainly for the attention they're drawing to themselves.
Arcade Pals (Dunnstral + MariaR) - Null town for now
ActionDan - Null, don't have enough to go on other than a scum read on me. I like their question toward Morph though.
TwoInAMillion - Scum lean. Hasn't posted anything useful yet. They've asked a question or two, and made some comments but nothing of substance.
gerryoat - Need more time to get a read n this slot.
Creature - I need some time to read this slot as well. Initial gut impression is town, but theres really not much to go on. I am curious how they seem to know what Porkens mode 11 is.
Mad King Ashnard (RadiantCowbells + Raskolnikov) - Abrasive up to this point. Mostly null, though theres a lot of content there to analyze. I just need to really sit down with it.
Drixx - I hope you feel better soon
WhyMafia - Concerned why in a sea of scum reads they are calling me not scummy. And thats their only post.
Something_Smart - Town lean, for their genuine responses. I think #83 and #89 come from town.
randomidget - null, waiting for their catch up/content

So thats where I am right now. I'm going to skim back through to see if there were any missed questions.

How can you say I haven't posted anything useful/of substance? I'm one of the more active players. What is it you would like me to say that I haven't said?

[TwoInAMillion]

I tried and it didn't work for some reason.

[TwoInAMillion]

I take my time for the most part getting reads on people unless something jumps out on me.

[TwoInAMillion]

There you go.

[TwoInAMillion]

That's kind of a dumb rule, people say I'm town all the time in games. But I will be careful.

[TwoInAMillion]

I meant in regards to saying that you're town.

[TwoInAMillion]

I think mka is scummy considering it's day 1 and we have no hard info. Town should be trying to build alliances with other town not just agitate people.

[TwoInAMillion]

[/vote]something smart [/vote]

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: something smart

I hate tags.

[TwoInAMillion]

I agree with random.

[TwoInAMillion]

That you are overly confident in your reads

[TwoInAMillion]

Later

[TwoInAMillion]

That you are overly confident in your reads

I'm pretty sure we've expressed more confidence in our reads than anyone else in the game.

I would have to double check.

[TwoInAMillion]

My mom just arrived to visit so my research ability is somewhat limited right now.

[TwoInAMillion]

I retract my vote. After I iso'd I thought I remembered SS having more strong stances than he did.

UNVOTE: Something Smart

[TwoInAMillion]

Lurker wagon!

VOTE: randomidget

[TwoInAMillion]

You're asking someone what their opinions are of they themselves being scum?

[TwoInAMillion]

Also, scummy that MKA wants to out the double voter. Says that he doesn't trust town.

[TwoInAMillion]

I would vote but I don't want a quick lynch.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't trust anyone's motivations to want me lynched early, yeah.

You should be more worried about a town victory than your own personal survival.

[TwoInAMillion]

Can you stop with the unreadable textspeak pls?

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: mad king ashnard

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't trust M k a at all I do trust morph

[TwoInAMillion]

And I don't like the rolefishing ftr

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't trust M k a at all I do trust morph

Well, then you're not very good at this game are you? Assuming that you're town ofc.

3 and 1 record so far I think my town partners including gerry would vouch for me.

[TwoInAMillion]

Ok if you say so. I obviously suck along with the entire wagon.

[TwoInAMillion]

You pushed SS on overconfidence that doesn't exist. You're pushing me on rolefishing that doesn't exist. Your reads are clearly not based on anything in the actual game.
I'm assuming that you're one of the scumbuddies here: if you're not it's time to do something differently.

I'm not overconfident. If the daycop is lying we lynch him.

[TwoInAMillion]

Odds of a launcher are very low considering no third party in this hame

[TwoInAMillion]

Lyncher

[TwoInAMillion]

Sorry phone posting

[TwoInAMillion]

Since no launcher likely that increases the odds of the day cop claim being real. Could be a scum day cop but with only 3 scum that would reduce them from 3 to 2 if they are caught and a poor scum gambit.

[TwoInAMillion]

@Mad do you think lynching you is a strong play regardless of your true alignment and if not what strategy do you recommend at this point and why

[TwoInAMillion]

So you're claiming there is a launcher in a game with no 3rd party and your mason partner is mysteriously gone.

[TwoInAMillion]

Lyncher

[TwoInAMillion]

Scum lyncher is a broken role. We would lynch if they are wrong.

[TwoInAMillion]

Am I the only one who didn't put Satan in my upick

[TwoInAMillion]

Lol catan

[TwoInAMillion]

Vote is not a player

[TwoInAMillion]

UNVOTE:

[TwoInAMillion]

I find it amusing that pork thinks I am more scummy than someone with a cop guilty

[TwoInAMillion]

Way to avoid a response pork

[TwoInAMillion]

Willing to hammer if there is a consensus for me to do so.

[TwoInAMillion]

Looks like we aren't close enough for me to hammer anyways.

[TwoInAMillion]

We are two votes short

[TwoInAMillion]

Lol

[TwoInAMillion]

Desperate much?

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm not sure why scum think town will turn on me. It happens every game. Not the town turning on me but scum thinking they will.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm not disgusted, I'm amused.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm not disgusted, I'm amused.

If you're town, don't be on the wrong side of history next time.

Uh huh.

[TwoInAMillion]

Why do you believe Morph?

Cause I don't think there is a lyncher role trying to bring down MKA.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't think the game state is that complicated, lynch MKA, then lynch random, then go by night action results.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't think mason's answer changes anything, mason's do not always confirm that both are town afaik.

[TwoInAMillion]

From the wiki:

Most notoriously, some moderators will introduce Mafia-aligned Masons, taking the term "Mason" to imply that it is probable that the other Masons are Town-aligned, and not absolute.

[TwoInAMillion]

Not really, absolute alignment roles make it easier to auto win games.

[TwoInAMillion]

Reasons?

[TwoInAMillion]

My role pm.

[TwoInAMillion]

What do you think of pork gerry?

[TwoInAMillion]

Why the lol?

[TwoInAMillion]

I kinda agree there may be only one scum outside of mad and random.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm not into cannibalism.

[TwoInAMillion]

I want to be the hammer.

[TwoInAMillion]

One possibility is morph could be an insane day cop or something like that. Not likely but you never know.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm not voting you yet dude.

[TwoInAMillion]

@morph - Does your flavor indicate the possibility of you being insane?

[TwoInAMillion]

You know what insane means, right pork?

[TwoInAMillion]

It's possible. I want to know what morph says about his flavor.

[TwoInAMillion]

Ok I'll go with that then, and if MKA is town we lynch morph.

[TwoInAMillion]

Ok I'll go with that then, and if MKA is town we lynch morph.

But what if he is an insane cop?

Then we'll know when he flips. We have to take him on his word about his flavor.

[TwoInAMillion]

Ok I'll go with that then, and if MKA is town we lynch morph.

But what if he is an insane cop?

Then we'll know when he flips. We have to take him on his word about his flavor.

Do you understand why I want you autolynched after MTC?

You can want anything you want. It's either lynch morph or lynch you. I don't see the benefit in lynching elsewhere.

[TwoInAMillion]

Ok I'll go with that then, and if MKA is town we lynch morph.

But what if he is an insane cop?

Then we'll know when he flips. We have to take him on his word about his flavor.

Do you understand why I want you autolynched after MTC?

So far you've wanted the double voter outed and now you want morph to out his flavor evidently. That's not very pro town imho.

[TwoInAMillion]

Because the more info scum has about the setup the better it is for scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

The scum is the team that kills at night based on the roles out there.

[TwoInAMillion]

@Pork: You don't know that I'm scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

Given that he's confirmed scum from my point of view: why

shouldn't

I try to extract as much information as possible from him?

The scum is the team that kills at night based on the roles out there.

You're saying that there's scum motivation to want roles outed but are ignoring the very real town motivation to want the role outed given that he's confirmed scum from my point of view.

I don't think your point of view is town at this point based on your behavior.

[TwoInAMillion]

You're likely town

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If they are both scum then all we have to do is lynch one and we have 2 for 1. That would be pretty dumb.

[TwoInAMillion]

Not likely unless they are dumb.

[TwoInAMillion]

Not likely unless they are dumb.

Wait, who are you talking about?

Mia and drixx

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: mad king ashnard

[TwoInAMillion]

Shouldn't we see if there are any night actions anyone wants to report?

[TwoInAMillion]

Morph do you have a day cop shot today?

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't think it's pro town to lie about your role. As far as getting MKA lynched, bussing is a thing.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't think it's pro town to lie about your role.

Lol?

town should be honest. Sorry if you disagree.

[TwoInAMillion]

Um?

Morph literally got scum lynched by lying about their role. Do you think lynching scum isn't pro-town?

Do you know what bussing is?

[TwoInAMillion]

Um?

Morph literally got scum lynched by lying about their role. Do you think lynching scum isn't pro-town?

Do you know what bussing is?

I am totally failing to see your point. Yes morph's claim doesn't absolve them from being scum but it led to a pro-town action. Therefore it was pro-town. Therefore lying about your role CAN be pro-town.

It can be, doesn't mean it is.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm not saying I think morph is scum. I'm saying the gambit makes me trust him a little less.

[TwoInAMillion]

Action are you trying to get lynched?
VOTE: ActiionDan[/unvote]

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: ActionDan

[TwoInAMillion]

I remember MKA saying something similar.

[TwoInAMillion]

Pork why do you need ADs help specifically?

[TwoInAMillion]

Most likely explanation: remaining scum are actiondan and randomidget, the two most likely scum, and town directed any blocking actions against them.

[TwoInAMillion]

Why is it necessary to know why there wasn't a no kill? Giving scum info on our roles is probably more dangerous than the info we get from the results/speculation.

[TwoInAMillion]

Why there was rather

[TwoInAMillion]

I think we should quick lynch AD, finish night two, and see if we can catch the third scum with the results we have by then.

[TwoInAMillion]

Pork - I think it's better to wait until tomorrow to sort out night action given the high probability of scum AD

[TwoInAMillion]

I think town tend to overcomplicate things rather than look at the obvious.

[TwoInAMillion]

My last game(green hair upick) I won on 3 straight scum kills. Maybe someone can give me some credit for knowing what I am doing?

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm not calling you anything negative 2inamillion. Anyone can read my games and know I'm living in a glass house.

What do you mean by that?

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't call people stupid for how they play, that's what I mean by it.

I don't understand your issue with me then.

[TwoInAMillion]

So let's lynch AD then.

[TwoInAMillion]

No reason to massclaim imho when we are in such a good position.

[TwoInAMillion]

You and WhyMafia, because I thought it was probably not a good idea to out the reason for the no-kill.

How can TOWN out the reason for a no-kill?

I can think of several reasons.

[TwoInAMillion]

Still no reason to massclaim until tomorrow.

[TwoInAMillion]

If you have important info you can say it now, doesn't mean the rest of us need to claim.

[TwoInAMillion]

Wait, need to clear up something with the mod first.

[TwoInAMillion]

Given that it's night, I may not get a pm responce until morning.

[TwoInAMillion]

Got an answer from the mod; given this

VOTE: Chickadee

[TwoInAMillion]

Unlikely in this setup.

[TwoInAMillion]

Unlikely in this setup.

Untrue.

You don't think this is a near role madness game?

[TwoInAMillion]

Unlikely in this setup.

Untrue.

You don't think this is a near role madness game?

I have a claimed day action. So why is it unbelievable that I don't have a night action?

I've seen the flip and I know my powers.

[TwoInAMillion]

I have roughly the same reads as Porkens. Yeah this game is hard to get into. Nothing has really pinged me. SS raised a valid point on that short Drixx post though. Maybe scum team hoped Drixx would be V/LA longer and were hoping to cruise it out. So light scum read on Drixx

Scummy post. How do you not get into a game where your side is winning?

[TwoInAMillion]

Scum is in action why and chick

[TwoInAMillion]

Is that a read on why or based on actions?

[TwoInAMillion]

Scum is in action why and chick

Ok but theres only 2 more scum, so who would you bet on?

Did we get a confirmation on the roleblock?

[TwoInAMillion]

I think lynching Chickadee might be the best lynch at this point because it's not based on gut, but if we lynch chickadee and chickadee is town that puts pork a lot further down the scum ladder.

[TwoInAMillion]

Scum is in action why and chick

Ok but theres only 2 more scum, so who would you bet on?

Did we get a confirmation on the roleblock?

I roleblocked chickadee. What kind of confirmation are you looking for?

Now

The Betting Pool looked over their party. "Ok... No need to panic... Mad King Ashnard had to be acting alone right?"

TBP looked around. "Let's just... Continue like nothing happened..."

A slightly manic chuckle escaped from their lips. "We'll just play some games..."

No one has died Night One!

[TwoInAMillion]

Did you ask the mod if you normally would?

[TwoInAMillion]

Chickadee has very reactive reads...(more about who is targeting her than about who is playing scummy)

[TwoInAMillion]

Can we just flip s coin? Heads Dan tails chick

[TwoInAMillion]

I've received information that someone locked the meeple vote.

[TwoInAMillion]

ah nm it's in the votecount.

[TwoInAMillion]

Anyone not lynching chickadee is looking more like scum imho.

[TwoInAMillion]

Now, I'm honestly asking, so please explain if I have it wrong, are you trying to intimidate people with your reads? AGREE WITH ME OR GET LYNCHED. Is that what you are saying?

I agree.

I'm saying exactly what I mean.

[TwoInAMillion]

The roleblock

[TwoInAMillion]

It's not a garauntee there could have been shenadigans but it's a good bet.

[TwoInAMillion]

Or pork could be scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

That's really poor appeal to emotion chick. The perfect win is c.f. not what's important it's the win. Still I am about 80% confident chick is scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

I townread Chickadee

How can you townread chick knowing about the roleblock?

[TwoInAMillion]

That's really poor appeal to emotion chick. The perfect win is c.f. not what's important it's the win. Still I am about 80% confident chick is scum.

Typo

[TwoInAMillion]

Correct me if I'm wrong, I believe what Pork is trying to say he town reads chick from a playstyle standpoint, but the roleblock is still damning.

[TwoInAMillion]

why would we discuss who you are going to use your role on if you don't claim your role?

[TwoInAMillion]

My role has day and night components as well.

[TwoInAMillion]

This would be considered a negative utility role correct(if town)

[TwoInAMillion]

I feel like with the role madness the game can be won in the game setup if we play logically.

[TwoInAMillion]

It's called bussing.

[TwoInAMillion]

Yeah he knew his days were numbered right?

[TwoInAMillion]

Perhaps, you never know until the mafia thread is revealed end game.

[TwoInAMillion]

The chickadee wagon is based on your night action. Are you retracting your night action?

[TwoInAMillion]

My vote is not moving from Chickadee.

[TwoInAMillion]

whymafia, morph and dunn can you explain your reasoning for not voting chick?

[TwoInAMillion]

Pork, you better shape up your play really quick or we will be forced to wagon you. This is unacceptable. You're not helping town at all.

[TwoInAMillion]

I am Munchkin: Spare Parts, double voter with repeating action expansion(allows me to use a players previous night action(s) if I am on their lynch.

[TwoInAMillion]

I have not been able to succesfully gain any info from my repeating action power yet.

[TwoInAMillion]

Munchkin Quest: Spare Parts that is.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't target anyone, I get the powers of whoever I lynch if I am on that wagon when they are lynched.

[TwoInAMillion]

Don't we have any investigative roles?

[TwoInAMillion]

what does CC mean?

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Creature

[TwoInAMillion]

I double voted

[TwoInAMillion]

Way to go town! Can't say I did much but I did what I could with my role.

[TwoInAMillion]

Just read the mafia PT. very unprofessional behavior by scum imho.

[TwoInAMillion]

between asking a mod for a fakeclaim mid game and conceding.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't feel the game design should be changed mid game and asking for a fake claim is trying to change the game design. Asking may not be against the rules but it gives the appearance you are trying to manipulate the mod

[TwoInAMillion]

It's not the idea of fakeclaims I have an issue with
It should either be part of the game setup or not part of it, not based on someone asking.

[TwoInAMillion]

Anyways, I now have a 75% win percentage as town and no mafia games played yet. Let me be mafia already.

[TwoInAMillion]

Yep, I'm new. I'll be flying by the seat of my pants if I get scum.