Mini 1956 - Thread Upick - GAME OVER!

[Klazam]

/Conform

[Klazam]

Pagetop

Assuming this is a real PR and not bullshit-

Can you vote? vote if yes, doot if no.

Can you quote? if yes, quote me, if no, doot.

Can you have multiple lines? if yes, place your doots on different lines, if no, doot.

Punctuation? yes- put one in, no- doot

I cant figure out how to ask about the pagetop thing.

[Klazam]

Unrestricted if it's a pagetop? One for yes two for no

[Klazam]

Limited amount of doots? 1 for yes 2 for no

[Klazam]

I don't think this is a post restriction

I have my doubts also but I'm still gonna go and figure out a way for NM to communicate meaningfully. At that point we can judge NM's contributions meaningfully. I'm working on something, I have some baseline thoughts, but gimme time to flesh out something usable.

[Klazam]

Proposal:
Not Mafia doots in morse code

That wont happen. too much work to convert it to readability. i should have something usable within the next 15 mins or so, i find post restrictions fun to figure out how to manage.

also what.

VOTE: God

[Klazam]

on second thought, that probably would be a terrible idea.

VOTE: unvote

[Klazam]

I dont think thats a good idea lol

[Klazam]

Answer the following questions on a new line.

1) Is there a player you wish to draw attention to? (# of Doots = Modpost 0 number on playerlist, 5 doots (yourself) if the answer to this question is no)
2) Is there a player you wish to vote if you could? (# of Doots = Modpost 0 number on playerlist, 5 doots (yourself) if the answer to this question is no)
3) Is there a post you wish to “quote”? (doot = post #’s line 1 = 100’s digit, line 2 = 10’s digit Line 3 1’s digit)
4) Related to the above- 1 doot for agreement, 2 doot for disagreement, 3 doots for confusion/clarification, 4 doot for scumminess, 5 doot for towniness, 6 doots for something else, at which point we ask questions
5) Is there a question we need to add to this list? (1 for yes 2 for no)

If you’re posting immediately after a post you wanna respond to, you can just do #4 and skip the prior numbers

Playerlist for reference in case mod changes it capriciously-
1 Ahsoka Tano
2 Assemblerotws
3 Pretentiousdra
4 Radical Rat
5 Not_Mafia
6 Yume
7 Klazam
8 acidphoenix
9 Kop
10 Creature
11 Porkens
12 TwoInAMillion
13 WhemeStar

IF we add more questions to this list, ill collect them and post the list again, and you can then post and we can probably figure out what you’re saying.

Does this look fine to you? This is the simplest methodology i can think of to do this here. (standalone post on your next post for agreement/disagreement will be fine, 3 doots if theres a issue with how this is setup that would prevent you from following it)


SAMPLE DOOTING POST-

Doot doot doot doot doot doot doot
Doot doot doot doot doot
Doot

Doot doot doot doot doot doot doot doot doot
Doot
Doot doot

Which translates to

Attention to Klazam
Voting Nobody
Post 109
I agree with ^
No

[Klazam]

I'm not gonna vote for socialism until convinced otherwise...

[Klazam]

tut tut

Radical Rat
Not_Mafia
Yume
Creature
Porkens

Such a long list of inferior players this game.

We simply cannot abide this.

Vote: Radical Rat

I got sidetracked by the PR thing lol. Why these 5 in particular, pretentious?

[Klazam]

OKay I can post now, I got points for other people saying doot and for getting pagetops and I had to earn enough points to post properly.
Liking RR and Klazam for town atm

VOTE: Socialism

so i singlehandely saved you lmao.

What's your flavor that causes you to doot?

Dont fish, no benefit atm, and i doubnt that dooting is scum

[Klazam]

know what-
VOTE: twoinamillion

[Klazam]

OKay I can post now, I got points for other people saying doot and for getting pagetops and I had to earn enough points to post properly.
Liking RR and Klazam for town atm

VOTE: Socialism

Is it a continuing restriction? Do more doots give you more power or not?

I have to earn 8 points before I can post each day, a pagetop gets me one point, a player who yet to say doot saying doot gets me 2, so no one else say doot until day 2 please

oh. I was useless.

[Klazam]

k.

[Klazam]

hey hydra.

Ongoing game so i cant discuss or explain myself.

Let's just say priorities changes, and i chose to focus myself over there, not here.

[Klazam]

Hmm, i dont have much to contribute here, other than im still okay with my vote.

[Klazam]

Ok.

[Klazam]

This must be a post restriction of some sort. cant mention people outside of votes?

[Klazam]

VOTE: Klazam

This is a better vote. Lets get his priorities into this game.

I'm now officially back in this game.

[Klazam]

Im considering wheme. Only one thing seems potentially alignment indicative to me- the line about talking about the two threads that was not selected by the mod. I cant decide if it's scummy or not, though. On the face of it, it could be construed as eliminating fakeclaims, but on the other side, it narrows down potential roles a bit.

[Klazam]

Wheme, can you explain the hydra vote?

[Klazam]

Twoinamil feels to me that he is reaching there.

[Klazam]

eh?

[Klazam]

what just happened.

Hydra, why did you stop the communist? specific reasons please.

[Klazam]

im gonna say that i think RR is either town or 3P. i dont see scum getting that power.

Hydra's alibity balances it out nicely, so potential for opposing or differing alignments right there. something to consider for the future.

Creature, are you allowed to give reasoning on your townreads? specifically 2inamil? I still think hes scum.

[Klazam]

me, based on what?

[Klazam]

^ scum.

[Klazam]

me or him?

[Klazam]

TIAM- fishing, then youre going after low hanging fruit.
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Yuma- no hablo Espanol, Ingles por favor.

[Klazam]

this is what google translate returned by the way

Mane eldest daughter Namida
Irino Uninu Fu Knee Tau tau
Do you think you can do it?
"uasashisa" to ukeirete
Kokuyemore leather cell
Sora placed in a hit me
My favorite Kagaya Ternan War Sagacseckel?

[Klazam]

activity is largely a null tell or annonying-tell, not a scumtell imo.


oh god. give me a bit to figure out wtf your PR is.

[Klazam]

I will pass for someone.
I will cling to the cheek like an ash
Do not hide it.
Inspired by kindness
I forget the evening
Sky found in Hitomi
Search only what seems to be bleak
Continue?

[Klazam]

im stumped, given your earlier posts follow no pattern i can think of.

unless its a new post restriction every post?

[Klazam]

Thing is, his first post after confirms is 100% trump thread.

then a one worder, then anime, then random numbers

[Klazam]

oooh. there's a cryptography thread.

[Klazam]

Is his role General discussion?

[Klazam]

Ok, that's enough of that tangent. what are we supposed to do with this? Yume, can you chime in with if your post restriction is relevant in any way? pretty sure we can puzzle out what you mean to say.

[Klazam]

uhm.

never mind then.

[Klazam]

Im sure that would make sense also. Im getting real confused by yume.

Yume, can you say who you think is scum, so we have something to work with alignment-wise, instead of this posting tangent?


PEDIT

wat. im gonna go to bed. i think i need sleep before i can parse yume.

[Klazam]

VOTE: Socialism

I'd like TIAM to die, but i think both of you are town, so game's in yo hands.

[Klazam]

(Yes, this is me saying i'll keep on being the third vote for as long as it takes.)

[Klazam]

how?

[Klazam]

like, if they keep on having terrible lynch choices, most likely they lose my support... so lol

[Klazam]

RADICAL RAT LETS MAKE A DEAL

I'm listening

We will unban you and vote communism every day in exchange for you letting us choose every other lynch (we get odd days) while we are still alive. That was not a 1-shot ability right? Because this is void if you're a 1-shot wonder loser

That is correct, it is explicitly stated in my role PM that I can do this for as long as people are willing to vote Socialism and there is at least one other Townie alive.

If I were to accept, I presume the lynch you want is Ahsoka?

"At least one other townie alive"

This is an addition that i doubt scum would have thought of, so im damn sure this is town. The hydra could go either way, but im getting town vibes from it, so. Im good with them deciding lynches.

[Klazam]

Uh. Communism is socialism

[Klazam]

Huh. I could be wrong

[Klazam]

Porkens, why'd you vote for socialism? More I think about it, the more uncomfortable I become with it, esp with your statement at the top of this page.

[Klazam]

Oh god...Oh god....I think they are both town

They came to a deal. Pretty cool. Same team I think scum won’t do that or do that for town either way.

[Klazam]

You learn something new everyday. Always thought communism was just corrupt socialism

[Klazam]

It doesnt hurt to see what happens with a hydra-directed lynch imo. reasoning, the flip, and all that probably will tell us a lot about his alignment. and honestly his role (or what i assume it entails) is REALLY useful for town if hes town.

Im starting to think porkens is town though. hes putting himself in the spotlight pretty easily, esp considering hes on the list of commie targets, which is not behavior i would expect to see from scum.

[Klazam]

I think im way too tunneled on 2iam. My first thought on reading the above post was "yeah this sounds like hes trying to, like, be placating, trying to avoid the spotlight". This is either true or a product of my own confirmation bias. Still think hes scum.

[Klazam]

posting =/= spotlight. its about tone. you're being very neutral in that post there.

[Klazam]

hmm

[Klazam]

That's an oddly specific image.

Hm, have i been obvtown? I dunno.
The second question is interesting tho. Gotta iso myself for that.

I think im way too tunneled on 2iam. My first thought on reading the above post was "yeah this sounds like hes trying to, like, be placating, trying to avoid the spotlight". This is either true or a product of my own confirmation bias. Still think hes scum.

Im starting to think porkens is town though. hes putting himself in the spotlight pretty easily, esp considering hes on the list of commie targets, which is not behavior i would expect to see from scum.

I probably wouldnt have said these two things- one admitting to probably tunneling, and the other one- I wouldnt have said such a easy lynch target was town. I don't know if that's necessarily true, though, it's just what i think i'd have done differently as scum. Havent been scum in a while though.

[Klazam]

Eh, that defeats the purpose of this methodology imo

[Klazam]

I have major problems with UC now. Yume's posts and UC's posts dont jive with each other.

[Klazam]

Checking in, i dont have much to add. Was the creature choice explained somewhere? because i dont see it.

[Klazam]

clarify Creature choice if you dont mind.

[Klazam]

Does this don't help? 2 for no, one for yes

[Klazam]

*doot

[Klazam]

Right

VOTE: socialism

[Klazam]

Before rat executes anyone, I'd like to inquire about wtf that was with creature's night posts.

[Klazam]

Did UC just try to steal the pagetop again lol

[Klazam]

Considering this, I wanna say that UC is just bad town. Idk if that's worth being the day's execution. Great Leader Rat, Loyal Advisor Hydra, what's your take on creature's posts? My initial impression was of antother role that forced that post, but the second post kinda deconfirms that, so I'm not sure to my take on that.

[Klazam]

The above question is more directed at the Hydra, really, because of that creature scumread yesterday

[Klazam]

I was

[Klazam]

Hydra, I'd like you to talk about creature, at least

[Klazam]

on the other hand, Rat, I've seen UC before, and he gives off the vibe of just being really bad at this game, not intending to offend here, so some of his actions seem to reflect that to me.

I'll need to consider things.

[Klazam]

on the other hand, Rat, I've seen UC before, and he gives off the vibe of just being really bad at this game, not intending to offend here, so some of his actions seem to reflect that to me.

I'll need to consider things.

I've also seen him before, but even if he's bad why is he bad town and not bad scum?

Thats actually a very good point. I was just assuming on some level.

[Klazam]

So basically Not_Mafia entire ISO is doot?

uhh, no. NM can post normally once NM meets the threshold of points, either by having others doot at NM or getting pagetops. if you read the previous day, this'd be obvious.

[Klazam]

Well idk what I agree or disagree with

The point is town can't vote and voting is our greatest asset

Later on we can't really do VCA's or anything since there's nothing to go off of

This is incorrect actually. sure, we lose VCA, but theres things we can analyze, like stances on the proposed execution targets, feelings toward the glorious Red Revolution, or scumhunting in general. If you thought about it a bit, it'd be obvious. And who supported/ who went against socialism will be interesting to look at, once someone in Hydra or Rat dies and shows alignment. On my part, i'm willing to risk it, because i really liked what i've seen from these two, and their discussions make sense to me. Hydra could participate more today i guess, but eh.

Feels like faked town outrage from you here, because youre picking the one thing that we lose from socialism, and ignoring all the other things we can analyze.

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Wait a minute. TIAM hasnt been participating today. I just remembered i had a scumread on TIAM.

IGMEOU: TIAM

[Klazam]

LAMIST means what, whymafia? Also im glad youre able to articulate what i saw, very well.

[Klazam]

Kinda busy right now, but yeah, exactly what is baseless, tiam?

Creature- I feel pretty good about Hydra being town for now.

Also I haven't heard of lamist before, but makes a ton of sense yeah

[Klazam]

Why'd you take so long to claim that?

[Klazam]

Just isod when, I believe him.

[Klazam]

*when = wheme

[Klazam]

Dont be a bitch, still shows intent and thoughts, doesnt it?

[Klazam]

Votes in this context = I want/am okay with this person's execution

[Klazam]

Wheme has a guilty on UC. WhyMafia wants a dialogue with you, and so do i. What exactly about his case is baseless?

[Klazam]

prod recieved, sorry.

Um

still got nothing new. Wheme might need to clarify what style of guilty he has, although UC's reaction to that was, frankly, odd.

[Klazam]

I'm fine with it

[Klazam]

WhyMafia needs to claim. Immediately.

[Klazam]

have reason. not sure why tiam is voting why at this point though

[Klazam]

Hold off on any serious lynchwagons til why answers, please. it is of vital importance.

[Klazam]

Why- is that a fullclaim?

[Klazam]

Yeah if Ashoka flips town scum are in

Porkens, TIAM, WhyMafia

Each night, you may select a player to take on an adventure. All actions targeting you target them instead, and all actions targeting them instead target you.

We're literally the closest thing to confirmed town BTW, given how RR claimed to be bulletproof + Wheme day 1 reads. Since nobody poisons the judge deliberately night one.


So shut up fall in line murder Creature thanks

I dont follow your logic here. Mind explaining it again?

[Klazam]

I need a full claim, not gist, sorry.

[Klazam]

Notmafia- you're useless right now, so for your communication, use the template I made earlier?

[Klazam]

I believe it based on posts vonflare made in the worst role thread

[Klazam]

By that, I feel that I would believe the mod made that particular post restriction, outguessing the mod I know but still

[Klazam]

Night 1 action was what?

[Klazam]

Longer you take, the worse this looks for you, honestly.

[Klazam]

Nobody post til not mafia gets his pagetop in by the way.

[Klazam]

Back to discussion.

[Klazam]

Sorry, I was getting impatient.

Ok. I'm trying to figure out this puzzle. I have access to a dataset that seems to implicate WhyMafia here. If I reveal it all, it has the potential to harm other players, and it would also prevent me from finding any more scum. Even by saying that I'm afraid I've said too much here.

How likely is it that why would forget the N1 action- that's a massive question here...

[Klazam]

Ok fuck it, as the person that why targeted, I want a full claim from you TIAM.

[Klazam]

(Last person I'm demanding a full claim from, don't worry, I'm going somewhere with this.)

[Klazam]

Because I had something suggesting that wheme was telling the truth.

[Klazam]

Nevermind on the Tiam claim, I think that won't change anything.

If why is honest about forgetting that he had an action, Tiam is town, if he isn't, Tiam is scum with him.

If they're town, then Assemble has to be scum.

I don't know what else I can do at this point here. If why didn't forget, then there would have been no link between TIAM and Why and I wouldn't have said anything.

It's unfortunate that I've outted 3 names sigh, I swear I thought I had caught scum for sure, but... Yeah

[Klazam]

As for myself, I think I would prefer to do this for today then everyone else can pursue the other 2 leads tomorrow.

VOTE: Why

[Klazam]

Actually this might not be a bad trade at all- with why's flip, we get one conftown and one confscum

[Klazam]

Hmmm...let's see.

Player "forgets" they have a power role. What's the likelyhood they actually forgot or that they're scum?

Funny you say that because if hes scum, youre scum too.

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Im not willing to fullclaim at this point, but i can claim a bit i think.

Lets just say i know all players who take an action each night, but i do not know what the actions are or the targets. TIAM and WhyMafia are linked because TIAM took an action N1, and didnt take an action N2, while the opposite was true for WhyMaf. Assemble on the other hand took action both nights. I know more than this obviously, but i have reason to not worry too much about the other things.

Forced fullclaim from Why and not TIAM, because if Why claimed Even-night stuff, makes it obvious TIAM is odd night something, meaning that it would be better not to say anything about TIAM to let him fire off his role again tonight, but with the forgot excuse, this kinda throws things in the air a bit.

When wheme claimed guilty, i went and saw that Wheme DID take action N1, so i believed the investigation claim there.
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Rat, Im against TIAM vote for the reason that if they're town, hanging tiam loses us a actioning power role tonight. if why is scum, then theyre both scum, which puts a nice bow on things either way.

[Klazam]

also of potential note- i come out with something aganist Why, notice HOW FAST TIAM turned aganist him. That really struck me as odd right there.

[Klazam]

Prefer to not answer that.

[Klazam]

thought just struck me- how likely is it that mafia isnt killing normally, instead using a person to poison? if so, that's implicating the person (or persons, if there are others) that has used ability twice.

theres layers to this i didnt consider, sigh.

[Klazam]

via PM?

[Klazam]

Thats good to know, if you die, we know it's the pizza lol.

[Klazam]

night 1, ok so pizza baker is not posioner. also good to know.

I kinda wanna change tack on this- Im starting to think we should go for assemble instead, two actions in a row fits with the mafia poisoner theory.

[Klazam]

am i making sense on my actions here?

VOTE: Assemble

[Klazam]

At this point I have a decent idea of who is sending pizza. (Like I said, I didn't full claim)

My course of action is unchanged here

[Klazam]

And by the above line I mean that the data shows that if there's a singular posioner, it is assemble.

[Klazam]

Assemble, what does a tunneler do? I've never seen that role before

[Klazam]

If assemble flips town and not posioner of any kind, then that means that the mafia kill is a shared posioning and that both why and Tiam are scum

[Klazam]

HAAA!

[Klazam]

Im sad though. Im dead.

[Klazam]

truedat.

[Klazam]

What are you looking for in the form of answer from me? Im not fullclaiming.

[Klazam]

Be ause its not optimal.

Dont fish.

[Klazam]

Go ahead and hammer.

[Klazam]

So why "forgot" to action again.

VOTE: WhyMafia

[Klazam]

correct. TIAM actioned N3, no action from why

They're linked anyway, so ok

VOTE: TIAM

[Klazam]

hahahahahahahhahahaha

VOTE: WhyMfia

100% scum vs 98% scum, im good with this

[Klazam]

Yeah, a tracker.

I'm interested in why notmafia can vote now, when notmafia claimed he can't vote in the past

[Klazam]

Aye i will in a second, first A)how come Not Mafia is able to post normally now? B) with Radical rat dead, there should be 7 alive, not 8 alive, so i doubt the kill actually happened there.

Fullclaim: I'm a rather hard to kill survivor here. I have not lied about any of my results or anything. I was pizza'd last night, and apparently that's a roleblock so i do not have results.

I probably know who's mafia, the one person that i've been getting results on that i havent shared, but i dont think it's in my best interests to out that person. If town hangs me, town loses, most likely, because I'm not mafia, and they end up endgaming you.

I think its the correct play for me to take a backseat here and watch. I'll hammer whoever gets to L-1.

Im interested in winning, but I dont care which side i win with at this point.

[Klazam]

Nvm guys, moderrored, he missed my action. Alright, whoever is mafia, you and i just won. the game is now 3 town, 1 third party (me), and 3 mafia.

Whoever mcmenno votes, i vote.

[Klazam]

I'm Fake Modding, by the way. I see a lot of information.

[Klazam]

heh i figured that probably would happen there.

VOTE: No Lynch

Problem solved

[Klazam]

Im not gambiting.

Well, i'll give this a chance, Pretentious, why should i be on your side here?

[Klazam]

I just wonder how many scum kills i ate at this point lol

Right so, From what i can gather, the scum team is Menno, TIAM, and NotMafia, The townies are Hydra, Mathblade, and Creature?

[Klazam]

If my grouping is true, i'll side with the town. IF someone on my "town" group claims scum outright, ill scumside. Your play.

[Klazam]

Explain your lack of a PR Not_Mafia

[Klazam]

I'll wait for creature to post and confirm hes not scum before making a move here.

[Klazam]

Mathblade, got burned how? by having scum claim survivor?

[Klazam]

Hydra, consider the fact that i led the town in two crushing mislynches, what makes you think i was playing to be a hero?

[Klazam]

lol, but in all seriousness, if i pegged the scum team that hard, they deserve to lose, if Creature fooled me, they deserve to win, thats my opinion here imo.

I'll wait for creature to say something about being scum or town, if he says hes town, i can expand on my claim quite a bit more, point out how ridic that would be for scum to have.

[Klazam]

Nah i dont need to. I see all actions taken in the night, Would that make sense as a scum role? or is that just downright broken, eh?

[Klazam]

nah, 3. I used an action that told me what was in the game last night and saw 3 scum, 1 3p(me), and 3 town. hence me claiming lol.

Anyway, so the scumteam got pegged. Lets end this.

VOTE: TwoInAMillion

[Klazam]

oh by the way- TIAM's thread choice is Guns, McMenno is Delicious Mafia (thereby responsible for pizza), and NotMafia is Last Person to Shitpost Wins!

[Klazam]

Mathblade, dont worry, game's over, you're on the lucky side i chose to support, we're just going through the motions.

[Klazam]

Clever play by notmafia, well done.

[Klazam]

I decided i didnt wanna lurk and shit like other survivors i've seen, just play the hardest i can.

[Klazam]

Why didnt i see whymaf's night action N3 though?

[Klazam]

Oh, the pizza is a roleblock

[Klazam]

Any feedback for me?

[Klazam]

I was immune to the entire scumteam at that point so lol

[Klazam]

Gg everyone
Kudos to NM
Klazam why did you fake guilities?

I faked nothing. You actioned but I didn't see it because you were role blocked via pizza.

[Klazam]

(I knew that was a possiblity but I generally did not care because of my survivorness anyway)

[Klazam]

Why does every town loss = scumsided on this site, man? A) socialist lynches removed much of the town's voice, a town power role forgot to action N1, you all followed me blindly as I led two mislynches, the banning power role didn't use action enough, and the pr fakeclaim went 90% unqhestioned

[Klazam]

Oh oh and don't forget the wheme fake guilty

[Klazam]

The scum lost two nightkills on me, but did everything else right in comparison to the town