Mini 1953: XP Mafia (Game Over)

[gerryoat]

Doesn't matter, no need to say it. imo. Maki, do you trust me, y/n. i'm giving you one chance to answer. no going back after.

[gerryoat]

How are we supposed to win if we cant lynch people? Yeah, yeah, if we wait 4 friggin days we can vig someone, but in reality that's N5!

Maybe if we started actually blocking mafia, that would help

[gerryoat]

Doesn't matter, no need to say it. imo. Maki, do you trust me, y/n. i'm giving you one chance to answer. no going back after.

Sure

Okay.

[gerryoat]

Is dreal scum? We dont AUTOMATICALLY get exp at teh start of the day. You have to train to get it.

he could be

[gerryoat]

So what does that have to do with anything? Lol, I still killed one of you two as mafia.

[gerryoat]

dreal-cant-answer-simple-questions needs to read.

HOW DO YOU GET XP?

Lol

[gerryoat]

This game is funny tbh

[gerryoat]

wtf why was jae banned?

[gerryoat]

rip

[gerryoat]

Maf will just kill the ones with high XP. So bad idea.

[gerryoat]

I just want this to move on. Yurkin is still obvious mafia btw lol

VOTE: dreal

[gerryoat]

Hurt: Dreal

[gerryoat]

So you're just gonna ignore my response to you gerryoat?

my bad, been basically prodging lol. um, i think that if maf knows who might have good role things they will kill them

[gerryoat]

I just want this to move on. Yurkin is still obvious mafia btw lol

VOTE: dreal

If you only knew who i want to vig right now...

like what's the point of this post lol

[gerryoat]

well everyone knows how much XP i have, it's not a mystery

[gerryoat]

Yurkin, the hero we needed, but didn't deserve.

How does 1 person scumclaim so much and be town tho. i've only seen titus pull off that feat.

anwyay, i'm stuck between 1 and 3 for which one would be more helpful. opinions would be nice.

[gerryoat]

This is anti-town, stupid, and making me question if dreal isn't actually gerry's partner. This attack is not only over the top, it can be debunked as stupid by reading the fucking rules thread.

so you think i'm mafia now?

Yes.

Or to put it another way, I was ignoring certain signs because to me...Your fight with NMS was just noise. It didn't inform me of your play style; but after reading post after post of how you've been complaining people have not been interacting with you that it made me realize...you're not really doing much, are you? And you're looking for excuses to not do much. Now, I do not believe you're as scum as dreal is right now; I would really much rather block/lynch dreal, but your trajectory is worsening while, for a good example, Dunn's is increasing. He's running through implications, making plans, trying to actively solve this game; and I thought he'd be a worthless slot that we'd have to deal with Day 2.

Now, I'm pretty shit sure that someone is going to snarkly point out that dreal and gerry always do this, and to them I say, 'so fucking what?' If it smells like a scum and looks like a scum, then you might as well lynch it.

so why don't you SR NMS? they were the one who started the argument making the noise, all i did was defend myself. but what is it that "i always do?"

Because I have some experience with mastina, and if I'm going to accept you're scum, it's really quite possible that NMS is Town. Why? Because mastina hates the bus. She even wrote a think piece on the whole thing for the goddamn wiki: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Stop_Bussing!

The relevant section here:

Towns win because of bussing!
And an incredible number of scum wins are a result of not bussing.

Or more accurately, strategically bussing. Which doesn't mean, "Oh, you're clearly going down, so I'll get the towncred by joining your lynch". That's not strategy; it's stupidity: you'll get no towncred from it. I also don't mean, "hardcore tunnel on a scumbuddy"; that's also painfully transparent to any half-way competent town. Strategy means running the risk-reward carefully.

In fact, there's a game where I played Mason with her here: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=30724. She spent a not-considerable amount of time in the dead thread laughing at at the scums because they powerbussed most of them dead. She might be scum and you be Town except for a rather uncomfortable fact that NMS as a

hydra has done more scumhunting

than you. I think she'd rather literally eat shit than participate in what would be an amount of powerbussing on you.

The only other scenario is somehow you're both Town and this was a Town v. Town fight all along. So? I don't have any proof that you're town, and your behavior is making me go 'mmm...looks like scum.' If the whole 'might be Town, better not vote/block' I'd get exactly nothing fucking done. So when you're done OMGUS speculating because I couldn't choose a side Day 1, enjoy the possibility that I'll be rooting for you eating rope when we finally get a lynch, with dreal.

so you two think that im scum with dreal who is tunneling me? lol

this game is laughably bad

You don't think dreal would powerbus? Heck, it wouldn't really be a powerbus, it'd be a power drive by with the number of people he's apparently OK with seeing dead.

i should have known he was scum trying to get a future block/mislynch on me after these 2 posts. i kinda dont think hes partners with dreal though, now. so dreal might be town like i originally thought. gdi

[gerryoat]

assemble that post sounds so fake lol

[gerryoat]

2 mafs left. 2 mislynches left

[gerryoat]

who do you scumread vax?

[gerryoat]

Thanks for welcoming me into the game everyone.

Are you guys assuming yurkin made the kill and no mafia kill?

Ohhh, yeah i'm thinking that. It's also possible maf killed yurkin, he did soft vig.

[gerryoat]

i think yurkin actually TR me, and that's why he shot ghost lol

[gerryoat]

I just want this to move on. Yurkin is still obvious mafia btw lol

VOTE: dreal

If you only knew who i want to vig right now...

it's an interesting experiment

again I think it would have gone better with shorter block Days

kudos to the mod still for coming up with it, will see how it all shapes up after game

It's really hard to be active since we CAN'T see the effectiveness of our blocks where we CAN see the effectiveness of lynches. Meanwhile scum get to sorta rate how effective their NKs been by the flips. It's a demoralizing situation for the Town.

yep

you prob scum though

should say i agree here.

[gerryoat]

it possible mafia is saving XP for the vig upgrade as well.

[gerryoat]

Thanks for welcoming me into the game everyone.

Are you guys assuming yurkin made the kill and no mafia kill?

Were not assuming anything. Why do you think no mafia kill? Yurkin died, did someone claim that?

read yurkin's role

[gerryoat]

well the way he replied to me was just kinda ominous. especailly when i kept scumreading him. and then he shot ghost who was trying to push me forever

[gerryoat]

@gerry

Just dreal atm, but with 1 mafia down i want to look further into this.

I also got some fun stuff planned!!!!!!!

eh, you think he hardbussed dreal? i think he was trying to set up blocks on me and dreal.

[gerryoat]

why do you vote mai if you think it's because not enough points. also, ghostin seems like his role could have made him the person who does the kills.

[gerryoat]

why do you think there wasnt one?

[gerryoat]

okay so you could have been the night kill. also if anyone blocked anyone somehow, they should out that too.

[gerryoat]

very possible. I think maf could just be saving XP tho. Thats what i'd do lol

[gerryoat]

screen, you might wanna read lol. blocking me again is stupid.

[gerryoat]

I’m ok with blocking Gerry

Maki, you kind of town read Gerry because mastina scum read him?

No no I just don't see anything that makes him scumm but mastina has a hard sr on gerry so they'd be able to explain much better than me.

Ok.

Mastina, your up.

these posts are weird in this order. shouldnt you wait to hear mastina before trying to scumread me if you really wanted an opinion on me?

[gerryoat]

screen, you might wanna read lol. blocking me again is stupid.

So you have been blocked?
Could expywhy scum would be short on points and didn’t kill.

I mean if there is something you think I should know just tell me. Otherwise I can just keep snowballing ideas.

I was bock day 1. so by now, i'd prob have enough XP to do a kill last night, unless maf kill costs like 2 or 3 xp

[gerryoat]

Also, look at ghosts role. His role gave him a free kill basically from what i'm seeing. he was basically the maf's killer imo

[gerryoat]

Also what are your thoughts on lynching vs blocking everyone?

i thought we could do both? if we can only do one we lynch ofc.

[gerryoat]

i'd be ok with that, but lets wait for everyone to talk to see if there is reports or anything

[gerryoat]

what happens if we lynch and block at the same time lol

[gerryoat]

no rules against it, i dont think? lets break this game

[gerryoat]

Reading Assemblerotws iso. Found this post from ghost in there. I don’t think it looks good for Gerry

ah, the "will be kept separately from the lynch vote" made me think there was possibly a lynch going on

soya, HURT: gerryoat, if you not voting to block same player as D1, I want to know why

This is anti-town and stupid.

thanks for telling us, scum, what did you have to do to accumulate enough to make the kill?

sounding to me like dunn+gerry have discussed some things over Night

This is anti-town, stupid, and making me question if dreal isn't actually gerry's partner. This attack is not only over the top, it can be debunked as stupid by reading the fucking rules thread.

It is public knowledge that the Mafia's factional kill costs XP to carry out.

That's post

two

of this thread. It took me

five seconds

to find.

this is one of those games where I have a whole big pile of "don't care if this dies / would vote it for lynch" and we can't even lynch

the horror...the horror....

I find vij, maki, gerry, ghost, assembler of the weak sauce, yurkin, eevee, dunnstral, all worth dead-ifying

soya, I'm easy, let's goooo

raya, where you at?!

i refuse to believe there is only 3 maf this game. i can barely tr anyone this game

*sings* ~Both of these things are exactly like the other. Both of these things are scum keeping their options opeeennn...can you tell me which one of these two should be blocked today before I finish my song?~ It's literally the same thought, the same lack of scum hunting...

Why aren't we blocking dreal today? He voted to End Day 1, something I gave Maki shit for. He's on the shittest of our three options, self-watcher. If I look up 'anti-town' in the MS dictionary, I can probably find a picture of dreal underneath it.

HURT: dreal

everyone was saying the same thing, even mastina

[gerryoat]

VOTE: loyal

I don't like screenplays entrance

I agree, he's way too tunnel oriented for someone who "didnt read"

[gerryoat]

What is it that you think was a consensus?

everyone was saying not to block me cause it was confirmed that i couldnt make a kill that night.

[gerryoat]

because he was trying to associate me and ghost because he was defending me in that first post, can't you read?

[gerryoat]

yes because he knew i had no xp, and he prob wanted to block someone else. which is why i said dreal is prob town

[gerryoat]

wait. mastina, you say you're roleblocker but never blocked me? LOL

[gerryoat]

oh i guess n1 and n2 wouldnt make much sense, but why did you choose to block assemble over me?

[gerryoat]

I'm on my phone and occasionally miss shit. No need to be a wise ass.

didnt mean to be, sorry!

[gerryoat]

i'm not defending, just i figured you'd grudge block me lol

VOTE: assemble

ftr srceen's last post is suspect

[gerryoat]

Are you a fucking umbrella Gerry?
You keep shading me.

i could say the same about you? lol

[gerryoat]

but yes, your post is questionable. why would mass claiming matter before lynching the guilty?

[gerryoat]

@Mastina

How about we lynch Eevee you roleblock gerry
someone exp checks asse

that's assuming someone actually is a rolecop. also why block me? i'm your TR i thought

[gerryoat]

fitz would you be down rolecopping asse or no?
Pedit: Are you against being blocked?

I'm against you coming up with a plan that just seems out of nowhere

[gerryoat]

Maki is town. Can we lynch Assemble already, he' confirmed and his excuse is bad

[gerryoat]

lol we can finally lynch and we dont wanna lynch the guilty.

[gerryoat]

ASSME IS CLAIMING A BODYGUARD MODIFIER WE CAN ROLECOP THAT. WE HAVE NO FLIP PROTECTIVES.

Who says we even have a role cop?

[gerryoat]

AM i the only one who thinks sceen play is scum?

he's scummy, but with 1 maf left idfk. we prob win now tho, so it doesnt matter. i dont see how we lose this. yurkin is mvp

[gerryoat]

he was my check rip
Pedit: No he could be a partner

you should have said so sooner.

[gerryoat]

Hi, i was blocked i'm guessing since my XP is the same

[gerryoat]

wut lol

[gerryoat]

btw im VT lol. thats why i didnt give af after i got blocked. cause i realized i'd never get enough XP for a cool thing.

[gerryoat]

literally anyone can role cop me and check me. thats why i wanted role cop to be chosen

[gerryoat]

aye I had gerry for town

my scumpool is

mastina
eevee
vax
fitz

take out vax and add srceen and we are talking

[gerryoat]

And im actually a really good role now

Ok, then claim it. What was your previous role and your role now.

[gerryoat]

ohhh so now you'll have an excuse as to why you dont die lol

[gerryoat]

Srceen should claim next

[gerryoat]

She did. Also claim.

[gerryoat]

We should prob do the claiming thing before lynching her, no? that way people can be held accountable for.

[gerryoat]

Anyway we lynch Eevee Screen and if the game still goes on fitz

That's where I'm at too.

VOTE: Eevee

screen trying to doge the claim is terribad too lol

[gerryoat]

Maki stop arguing with scum lol

[gerryoat]

fitz / srceen and dreal are the only ones who need to claim left i think

[gerryoat]

screen trying to doge the claim is terribad too lol

You are the only one asking for my claim.
I don’t feel like you deserve it.

everyone asked for claims. and you are next in the line. everyone's agreed to it

[gerryoat]

gerryoat

EeveeLution Army

Vaxkiller (fullclaim)

Screenplay
dreal
havingfitz

Maki
mastina

1st has claimed. 2nd has claimed. vax has claimed. you are next. go.

[gerryoat]

ok maki just explain and full claim please

[gerryoat]

ffa why does everyone need to be difficult

[gerryoat]

i'd be ok lynchign either, those are last 2 prob.

[gerryoat]

VOTE: Srceenplay

choo chooo

[gerryoat]

fitz/dreal claim when you see this. also mastina full claim

[gerryoat]

taking too long

[gerryoat]

ok then go

[gerryoat]

Okay, and then after?

[gerryoat]

what's your upgrade at least, srceen? and maki can you at least partially claim so he full claims

[gerryoat]

@screen cause I TR maki before and after her claim. i also believe she'd check me

[gerryoat]

VOTE: Eevee

[gerryoat]

Eevee, Srceen who do you both think the 2 mafs are

[gerryoat]

well damn dreal, you scumread the whole game. not everyone can be mafia

[gerryoat]

hopefully your daughter is feeling better soon.

[gerryoat]

btw im VT lol. thats why i didnt give af after i got blocked.

sounding to me like dunn+gerry have discussed some things over Night

This is who you all sheeped

Could quote any number of posts after you were blocked which say otherwise.

I buy you being vanilla!
I don't buy you being town!

So you're telling me that in a game where almost everyone has a PR, that I would be a mafia goon? Is that what you're telling me? Especially when Ghostin's flipped role doesn't seem that strong, tbh.

[gerryoat]

is anyone keeping track of all the XP? who has how much how much was spent etc. etc. ? otherwise the claiming has less of a point

Well I've been publicly blocked twice sooooooooo lol.

[gerryoat]

uhhhh...idk but i TR you

[gerryoat]

N1 train
N2 train
D3 upgrade VT > 1 shot BP
N3 train
N4 rolecop

VOTE: gerryoat

I'm going to trust mastina because of what I know.

LOL what???

[gerryoat]

N1: Blocked
N2: Train
N3: Train
N4: Blocked

my actions

[gerryoat]

Oh wait, I just realized something weird.

[gerryoat]

Does the day blocking remove 1 XP from me or no. Cause I just realized that Day 1 it said I had 1 XP and Day 2 I started with 0. But, I was blocked that night so I couldn't do anything.

[gerryoat]

A blocked player loses all XP and can carry out no actions

nvm i can't read lol

[gerryoat]

btw im VT lol. thats why i didnt give af after i got blocked. cause i realized i'd never get enough XP for a cool thing.

literally anyone can role cop me and check me. thats why i wanted role cop to be chosen

Sooo, how much XP do you have now?

2

[gerryoat]

nothing new there, gerry (:

OPE

what do you think of vax's sudden push on me?

[gerryoat]

Screen, in order to get XP you have to TRAIN. How do you get XP?

Successful track

[gerryoat]

X

[gerryoat]

I dunno what ur talking about

[gerryoat]

read the posts, i just didnt read the block thing right

[gerryoat]

I dunno what ur talking about

Celeb.

Uhhhhh no?

[gerryoat]

Yes?

Maybe?

[gerryoat]

LOL maybe it's an act.

[gerryoat]

Maki is town btw. 100%

[gerryoat]

IDK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

[gerryoat]

[gerryoat]

Every vt claim so far has been just that, a vt.
Until they upgraded and received some type a skill.
An auto by sounds a little strange to me.

Looking for a lynch today should be done in the vt pile.

wait who says they auto upgraded?

[gerryoat]

huh, that is weird. dreal care to explain?

[gerryoat]

But I would like gerry to confirm before we lynch him

Why would I be the lynch? lol

[gerryoat]

vax, do you really think maf has a goon idgi. we have too much power for maf to have a goon imo. even an up-gradable one.

[gerryoat]

ghost's only power was to gain xp without training. that and a goon isnt enough power regardless of the 3rd maf's role

[gerryoat]

Vanilla. Blocked D1 (0 XP, 0 XP N1/D2). Trained N2 (1 XP D3), N3 (2 XP D4), and N4 (blocked; remains at 2 XP D5).
This is what I should see.
This is not what gerry claimed in 1598. (As if we needed more reason for him to be scum.) Unless I made a mistake.

Uh, that's exactly what i claimed. what are you talking about?

[gerryoat]

I can't wait to upgrade lol

[gerryoat]

havigfitz whats your reads?

[gerryoat]

maki is 100% town. I already said this.

[gerryoat]

I'm conf town unless you think the scum team is exactly me and gerry

T-Totally not us.

[gerryoat]

So you're outting a guilty on mastina?

Yes.
My action failed.
That’s my result.

LMAO CALLED THAT SHIT DAY 1

[gerryoat]

Wait. The mod got back to me. They forgot to send me the action.

LOLOLOLOL

[gerryoat]

VOTE: Mastina

[gerryoat]

we have confirmed mafia. why would you unvote?

[gerryoat]

Maki roll, why do you tr mastina? like at all. all they've done is push me my mislynch all game and yell

[gerryoat]

wait so what happened n1?

[gerryoat]

@screen

[gerryoat]

Me, Maki Roll, Screen town team.

Mastina and Vax/Fitz

[gerryoat]

ffs we have confirmed mafia. stop trying to find the partner rn. it's mylo

[gerryoat]

@Mod: can we have the wording for a not loyal action result?

I don't understand this question.

What would the result be?

You have to word it differently. "If there was a tracker, and they used the loyal mechanic on mafia. Would it simply say no result or would something as a no visit be the result"

[gerryoat]

mastina are we playing WWE or what

If by that, you mean this?
VOTE: havingfitz.
Then yes. I'm all for a turnaround this game in our favor. Turn the tables on the scum and get locktown from it.

So essentially Srceenplay is a counterclaim to you. If he is town and telling the truth then you are scum. If you are town then he is lying scum.

Is this not accurate?

Yet you vote me lol

Cool bus

[gerryoat]

I've got all the answers in the game.

yes, maf usually does.

[gerryoat]

its literally auto win lol. lynch mastina. shoot fitz. if game doesnt end, lynch vax.

[gerryoat]

btw i upgraded today. I should learn my new role tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111. lets hope im lie detector or something cool

[gerryoat]

its literally auto win lol. lynch mastina. shoot fitz. if game doesnt end, lynch vax.

No...fitz is town. If town can shoot they need to shoot elsewhere.

Someone can shoot you. You haven't done shit and have been under enough suspicions.

Are you seriously saying that im maf with mastina who has been trying to lynch me since day 1 lol

[gerryoat]

can we stop talking about mastina's wifom. just vote her, she's confirmed maf. she's a tryhard who will do anything to survive. if there was a redirector, they'd have killed mastina if she was town. no need to kill dreal.

[gerryoat]

As long as Maki is telling the truth about having a vig shot, it's legit auto win. Do I need to explain why?

[gerryoat]

its literally auto win lol. lynch mastina. shoot fitz. if game doesnt end, lynch vax.

No...fitz is town. If town can shoot they need to shoot elsewhere.

Someone can shoot you. You haven't done shit and have been under enough suspicions.

Are you seriously saying that im maf with mastina who has been trying to lynch me since day 1 lol

I'm saying you're a better vig target than me. As is everyone who's not me. And don't confirm town yourself just yet becsuse NSG supported a D1 block on you. Aside from a few minutes D2 they haven't voted you for block or lynch

since

D1.

they blocked me yesterday, or does this not fit your narrative lol.

[gerryoat]

just lynch please. dont let mastina talk anymore or this will drag on

[gerryoat]

srceen can you vote mastina

[gerryoat]

Maki Roll, do you really TR mastina over me?

[gerryoat]

Maki Roll, do you really TR mastina over me?

Yes

I won't ate you, but idk what else I have to do. I showed you how Jae in Day 1 just started SRing me immediately, and you saw so yourself that in the Alisae game, they took awhile to try and read me. I can show you many times when they were town they took more than 1 day to determine their read on me. Another time they were maf in a hydra with Impoetic when we were on Sondam, they auto TR us in a way to try and buddy us. Do you remember that game? And I've already quoted how Mastina's posts were fake as hell day 1.

[gerryoat]

How about this.

Lynch fitz or Von

NO. we lynch Mastina the confirmed mafia. Even though fitz is the likely partner, if we lynch wrong we lose. Mastina can just block Maki and then maf will win.

[gerryoat]

Maki what are your reads

[gerryoat]

I think it's fitz and vax

why can't you lynch mastina and then shoot one of them then? cause if you lynch the wrong one, and mastina is maf she can just block you and maf will kill for win.

[gerryoat]

please don't TR mastina for these long posts, she's a tryhard scum, i can provide a link to prove it.

[gerryoat]

now i know how you felt about me last game, mastina lol

[gerryoat]

I would entertain gerry but

LOL ARE YOU SERIOUS.

[gerryoat]

I'm..trying so hard not to ate, you don't even know lol. But, what can i say to prove you that mastina is confirmed scum for different reasons? also unvote

[gerryoat]

if there is a redirector, why would none of mastina's blocks or srceen's tracks have been redirected at all? blocking is a mafia role 100% mafia has to have a strong PR because ghost's PR was garb imo.

[gerryoat]

how is she not scum? like?? it's obvious to me. or am i just crazy

[gerryoat]

literally the only way she is not confirmed scum if there just HAPPENS to be a redirector, that there was no evidence of until there was a guilty on mastina. don't you find that weird?

[gerryoat]

who cares about her posts, she's a good player and a tryhard. I thought she was town in WWE mafia, and she was scum. action/mechanics > words.

[gerryoat]

yes

[gerryoat]

Checking with the mod now.
I blocked havingfiz, but I neither gained XP nor received a message indicating the type of action havingfitz would use last night--which makes no sense. If havingfiz had trained, I'd have gained XP and seen the train; if havingfitz used any action, I should have seen what type of action it was I blocked.

I mean there is too many un-explained crap surrounding this to believe. Is mastina saying thier upgraded ability is that they will see what action is being roleblocked? THen proceededs to say they didn't get that communication?

You're the only person who is sane this game, apparently.

[gerryoat]

Can someone point to me where I ever said I tr gerry today.

Gerry can be scum with any team

I can only be scum with gerry at this point

can you tell me what would make you TR me. cause it's literally auto. you me srceen are town. mastina is confirmed mafia and maf is in the other 2. sooner you realize this, the sooner we can end this game.

[gerryoat]

Can someone point to me where I ever said I tr gerry today.

Gerry can be scum with any team

I can only be scum with gerry at this point

can you tell me what would make you TR me. cause it's literally auto. you me srceen are town. mastina is confirmed mafia and maf is in the other 2. sooner you realize this, the sooner we can end this game.

both of you are town

Can someone point to me where I ever said I tr gerry today.

Gerry can be scum with any team

but you said that....

[gerryoat]

Okay maki, which of fitz and vax do you scumread more?

[gerryoat]

The night there was clearly no mafia nightkill, Assemblerotws was protecting me.
That is STRONG reason.
Very fucking STRONG reason.
To believe that I was the scum's nightkill.

eyeroll

there isn't enough rolls

[gerryoat]

I can't believe you guys are falling for Mastina's rambling lol.

[gerryoat]

dayvig:Gerryoat

plz tell me why you arent voting ur guilty lol

[gerryoat]

its ok, apparently i'm the only sane one this game.

[gerryoat]

I'm starting to gut Maki Vax

what

[gerryoat]

Happy thanksgiving to all. I'm super full.

[gerryoat]

So this

[gerryoat]

is it really 3-3 deadlocked?

[gerryoat]

maki would be pushing for the mastina lynch if she were maf with me

[gerryoat]

so, we gonna lynch the guilty yet or no.

[gerryoat]

tbh maki just tell me what your plan is at this point, this is getting boring

[gerryoat]

Hope you all had a happy Thanksgiving.

same to you

[gerryoat]

Not suspicious at all

[gerryoat]

or, you know, we could lynch the confirmed maf aka mastina.

[gerryoat]

or, you know, we could lynch the confirmed maf aka mastina.

There's enough content being produced by mastina, much of it reasonable, to give pause to lynching them. Even if mastina is scum...who's their partner?

It's not me.

What are your thoughts on Vax?

Vax is trying to lynch the confirmed mafia and you aren't. SOooooooooo..

[gerryoat]

Mastina gives a lot of content as mafia too, content doesn't = town at all. they are mechanically confirmed mafia.

[gerryoat]

Which points does mastina make in their defense that you disagree with? Her points don't sound plausible?

The part where she is confirmed mafia

[gerryoat]

Fine
VOTE: gerry

stop being stupid please

[gerryoat]

after this game, i hope that you guys never townread post walls just cause the person is a tryhard, especially when the person IS LITERALLY CONFIRMED MAFIA

[gerryoat]

gerry...is there a possibility that mastina is town?

I just don't see it. It would be too many factors for her to be town. Like it just happens to be a redirector now?

[gerryoat]

Gerry or Mastina

Only two I’ll lynch today

Then lynch the one you have a guilty on???? lol I didn't think mafia was this hard.

[gerryoat]

We keep getting at Maki is confirmed town by Gerry. The only way Maki could be scum is with Gerry. It seemed iirc that it took awhile for Gerry to catch on that he was supposed to confirm Maki.

Are you saying it was a scum gambit by me and Maki? If so, we would have just talked about that in scum chat together, and it wouldn't have been like that. I just wasn't sure if I should have outed it, since she would have died.

[gerryoat]

Srceen, how about this. We lynch mastina. If she flips town, Maki can vig me. If that's what you're scared about? If you lynch me, Mastina can just block Maki's vig and we lose.

[gerryoat]

Either way, Mastina living and being mafia is bad for us if we lynch town cause she can block Maki's vig.

[gerryoat]

I personally think it's fitz and mastina. I've explained why this whole time. I prefer lynching Mastina over fitz and I've explained that too. I'm tired of repeating the same things over and over. I just want this game to end at this point so I can go on my MafiaScum hiatus. Srceen & Maki you both have different 2 lynch pools, if you can compromise, I'll join whichever

[gerryoat]

Instead it seems you are playing both sides of the coin with one saying lynch Mastina and the other Town reading them.

She's confirmed to me. I'm not confirmed to her. Doesn't mean we can't disagree on reads. Just cause I know someone is town doesn't mean they are right. But, at this point, I'm willing to settle

[gerryoat]

Knowing Maki, she's very stubborn so I don't think she's gonna end up voting Mastina. Srceen which of Fitz and Vax do you SR the most and why

[gerryoat]

Okay, now we wait for Maki

[gerryoat]

So regardless, if we don't lynch mafia, we lose. Who is your top scumread and why?

[gerryoat]

Okay, I'll be here. UNVOTE:

We should probably all unvote and then come up with a decision after we all out everythign we have to say. Because right now I see it being deadlocked 3-3. Maybe something else someone has to say can change someone's mind.

[gerryoat]

Who are you voting, vax or fitz

[gerryoat]

At the rate this is going, I see a NL happening. Srceen and Maki come up with a decision together. I will vote with you guys. I've already gave you my preferences, but it's up to you 2.

[gerryoat]

I'm not reading that wall post lol

[gerryoat]

So basically, you're saying I'm scum with either Vax or Maki? lol. First of all, Maki is clear 2nd of all, why does that auto make you want me and not Vax? I don't understand what makes the Vax teams unlikely.

[gerryoat]

mastina (2)- gerryoat, Vaxkiller

Btw as if there were any doubt--literally any scumteam combo not involving one/both of gerry/Vaxkiller would have held a chance to hammer, thereby guaranteeing that AT LEAST one of gerry/Vax is scum, but that's pretty damn self-evident. I did think it worth mentioning tho.

^ this

This is also false, because Maki is vig, then she can just shoot them. There isn't any evidence that mafia has any XP, considering there have been no night kills on some nights

[gerryoat]

If Srceen isn't scum...scum would have had the dilemma of potentially having their NKer tracked, and thereby being guiltied by the track. Unless redirector was in play and impacted track vice the block.

flawed logic as well, it's mylo if mastina is mafia so the first part makes no sense. 2nd part would have to bank on mastina being wrong (or just nking and getting her a fake guilty) if she was town.

[gerryoat]

man it's so obvious it's fitz and mastina, but i know it will be a NL if I stick to it cause it will be 3v3.

[gerryoat]

Srceen if you want Mastina lynched like I do, you need to convince Maki which I don't think is gonna happen.

[gerryoat]

@srceen and @maki come to a consensus or nothing will get done. pls

[gerryoat]

I..don't even remember. Waiting for the VC. But I think it's split. I think 2 on Vax, 1 on me and 1 on Mastina

[gerryoat]

I seriously doubt Maki or fitz will vote Mastina but lets go

VOTE: mastina

[gerryoat]

Well I don’t think it is vax.
I think Mastina fitz
Or
Gerry Maki.

Maki is clear, so it's Mastina and Fitz lol

[gerryoat]

Srceen?

Why does scum RB not just kill tracker you and implicate an innocent townie today for the win?

Better question. Why does scum not just kill a RBer that can screw their kill.

[gerryoat]

down to 3 days left now.

[gerryoat]

lmao

[gerryoat]

I'd hammer if that was the case

DO it