Danganronpa V3 Upick! Game over!

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I think Ali mentioned that Yume's better at D2+ play, that's why i havent even bothered with her this day phase.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also, I hope i dont regret this but...
I think Wisdom's town this game.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Almost if you're referring to 543, it was probably a joke.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I do admit that I missed the possibility of it being a crumb, I usually never pay attention to that, but Hebi's vote on Kokichi certainly dismisses that.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I think almost is most likely town now.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

My flavour is confirmable, given my neighbourhood QT starts with a big ass picture of something that can only be related to my character and its name is as such too.

This checks out, i definitely believe now that regardless of what alignment you have, you're a neighborizer

[Kaede Akamatsu]

So my theory of scum team Hebi+LLD faking out a neighborization is no longer relevant.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well, the thing is that i have a neighborize ability too, just like what LLD has claimed my flavor's there, my ability has a down side which im not going to claim right now and it also happens during the night and i dont get the neighbors until the next day phase.

P-Edit: Yeah Miu, i was just wondering if there was actually another neighborizer in the game, but now i have confirmed it.

P-Edit 2: Let me post >.<

[Kaede Akamatsu]

No Ali, i dont think Wis is scum this game.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Can you all please get some cold water into your heads and come back? All this caps locking, yelling, insulting, spamming isnt helping anyone.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

what if the "all town hood" is actually the scum pt?

lel

haha, i actually was thinking that too earlier, but i think crows is just town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Listen to this and calm down, everyone talking at once is making it harder for me to parse the actual content from your posts.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

(inb4 mass panic debate)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Town pool: Shuichi, Crows, LLD, Kiyo
Maybe Town: Izuru, Wisdom
Scummy: Hebichan, Miu, A50

I think those are some of my reads.

Apparently i dont exist.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You know I am in fact leaving this site soon when it comes to playing in games
so you'll never have to worry about playing in a game with me ever again.

:<

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I seriously dont think Ali's scum, we need to be cooperating more instead of yelling at each other.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ali, please, calm down.
I want to talk to you, but with you yelling and going "FUCK MS" isnt helping (in fact it feels insulting coz i love this site).

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ali, please, calm down.
I want to talk to you, but with you yelling and going "FUCK MS" isnt helping (in fact it feels insulting coz i love this site).

I am sorry you feel insulted by it
but these are my feelings
and I have a deep hatred for playing on this site.

I kinda wish you were here 5 years ago.
current site meta is kinda horrible, but im not giving up.

Anyway, i dont think a neighborhood exists on an upick short of being flavor related, is there any specific reason you're townreading the players in it that is related to their posts in the hood? And do you know that it's easier to fool 2 people than 11? If you think their hood posting is indicative of town, then ill trust you because I TR you, I just want you to look at it more objectively than "because hood"

[Kaede Akamatsu]

If you think their hood posting is indicative of town, then ill trust you because I TR you

There is more but right now all you need to know is the play makes it town.

Ok i'll trust you on that then
VOTE: hebi

[Kaede Akamatsu]

sorry but your reads are terrible. Kokichi is obvtown.

He likes scumreading town
</joke>
Nah actually he's gotten better at it, i was just taking a reference to all his tunnels on town me.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh right, that game ended, i dunno why i wasnt mentioning it.
But Ali did the same thing on Boon's large, treated eir hood like a masonry, and yeah, they were all town.
Don't think this outside of the realm of what an Ali town would think, ppl in MS are more paranoid of hoods, hence i never thought it was a mutual sentiment, but i can believe a town Ali truly believes eir entire hood is town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

It feels like Ali's been townreading the hood off hood posting and people are discrediting it because "lol hood spec"

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I think Kiyo's town
(Actually i had thought that for a while, but forgot to mention it)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Btw i probably havent read 70% of the posts that have happened in the last couple hours.
So much fast posting I gave up trying to keep up.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Toobad hoodposting points towards town.

at least you're now at "points towards" rather than "omg LLD is conftown the end"
progress.

I dont think Ali ever implied that LLD was conftown.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

OMG I LOVE YOU MIU

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ok, now that everything has calmed down.
@Wisdom: Don't you think hebi's angle on Kokichi is weird?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Like at first i was just following Crows, but the Kokichi vs Hebi interactions make me think Hebi's more likely scum than Kokichi.
Like Hebi at first saying Kokichi was scumled, to voting with you, her reads change, etc.
Dunno I just feel like Kokichi's right that Hebi's trajectory on there is just weird, and with all this mass explosion of posts im not sure if you've read it, or if you did and commented on it i may have skipped it due to having like 10 new posts to read everytime I tried to post something.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ironically, i was about to make a scrum debate reference too.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

No, Nebby. Vote Kokichi.

Nope outside of the hood Kaede and Kokichi are my top trs.

Speaking of which, do you want to join mine?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

If there's any scum in Crows hood, is not Crows.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

It makes me sad that this may be the last game I play with Ali if e really wants to leave MS.
So I'll give it everything i got for Ali.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

LOL
THIS IS SO FUCKING FAKED OH MY GOD

stop tunneling pls

Says the one tunneling Kokichi

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I was recently told me about getting a good lynch, that doesnt always have to be a scum lynch.

How is this still alive.

Beats me

[Kaede Akamatsu]

its recent, i used to 1v1 my scumreads only to get town to think im tunneling and that it is TvT

ive stopped engaging with whoever im certain is scum since

Well I think you're tunneling and that it's TvT even WITHOUT you engaging with Kokichi so.....
Dont think that has helped much.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah my flavor's Kaede too why?
And why did you mention that before I replied?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah my flavor's Kaede too why?
And why did you mention that before I replied?

Cause it didn't really matter, apprently.

VOTE: Kokichi

false alarm

I mean i knew LLD wasnt lying about her neighborizer due to her explanation of her neighborized ppl PT, it should've been obvious from that point that i was also a neighborizer.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah my flavor's Kaede too why?
And why did you mention that before I replied?

Cause it didn't really matter, apprently.

VOTE: Kokichi

false alarm

I mean i knew LLD wasnt lying about her neighborizer due to her explanation of her neighborized ppl PT, it should've been obvious from that point that i was also a neighborizer.

Your role wasnt the problem. I just wanted to make sure you were Kaede. I am a 1-shot flavor cop, among other things, and I am pretty sure there is a reason for it. That reason has to do with the rest of my role.

Regardless, I need to just confirm Keade's flavor quick, cause there's three characters that a second neighborizor fits.

????

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kokichi Oma (6) - cytheflyguy, Wisdom, Mavis Vermillion, Miu Iruma, Almost50, hebichan
hebichan (3) - Crows, Kokichi Oma, Kaede Akamatsu

This makes me sad

[Kaede Akamatsu]

wait, isnt LLD voting hebi?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

So basically Hebi is at L-2 now huh

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Speakiing of claims, why hasnt kokichi claimed at L-1 with intent to hammer?

What intent? Miu was already voting him

[Kaede Akamatsu]

And hebi is at L-3, technically.

?
Ikuru's vote makes it 5 no?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I assumed Ikuru's vote wasnt there coz Dunn was fixing the vote count before Izuru's vote.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I dont mind waiting, I dont understand what's the rush anyway.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I can't be confirmed right now though. And if you think of my flavor, you should know I have to lie.

You know, You brought this up earlier, but after I thought about it, how would the mod know when you're lying about things like reads and stuff.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ftr Kiyo might be scum. I wouldn't be surprised anymore.

So, how many scums exactly do you think there are? And why are all your suspects either voting you or showing intention to? Why would the whole scum team be interested in your head rather than anyone else's?

If hebi's scum and Wisdom town, it makes a whole lot of sense for scum to use wisdom's tunnel to get rid of a townie to save their partner.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

But that would be getting into pre flip associatives and that's kinda ugh.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

This is exactly what I am saying lmfao

Yeah and that's what I believe has been happening.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

So here's the thing:

Suddenly you hear something? Scum have safeclaims in this game

Given this, if Kokichi's scum he'd already have a safe claim, so it doesnt make sense for him to be waiting for the mod for something and would have used said safeclaim, im more inclined to believe what he's saying is true.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well i guess my views are tainted coz i TR kokichi and i dont TR hebi.
But i could say the same for you.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kiyo. Let's make a deal. If you lynch me and I flip town, you volunteer to be the lynch tomorrow. Since you're suddenly so certain I'm scum.

This is really bad in a world where both of you are town, do you realize this.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Like no matter how much you scumread Kiyo, that's not a good thing to do, you being town doesnt make your read on him necessarily right.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I remember a friend of mine used to do "After I flip town you'll become X's double vote" tho.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also looks like Crows is teaching Kokichi what i taught them earlier

[Kaede Akamatsu]

yeah, kokichi hates killing doesnt he.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I remember something like that being lost in translation of V3, but i never imagined such an obscure fact to come up here.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I dont think Kokichi's lying here, why would he go over all this "stalling" and "waiting for the mod" when the mod already gave scum fake claims according to that post from page 1. It certainly seems unnecessary trouble.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

How the hell are you comparing Gistou to this Almost.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

What is your take on Kiyo's interactions with Kokichi?

Kaede can you give me an answer to this as well?

I literally have no idea what to take of it, like i dont see what's the harm in waiting, but this "OMG I WANT TO HAMMER YOU REGARDLESS" is like what?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

i.e. i was townreading him earlier, but that TR is weakening.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I remember something like that being lost in translation of V3, but i never imagined such an obscure fact to come up here.

IIRC, in the Japanese original, it was explicitly stated Kokichi and DICE would never kill anyone, whereas in the translation it was only stated that DICE only commit petty vandalism. We don't know if mod knows this, if you only play the western trsanslation, you don't really get the message of Kokichi hating killing. Also a) the entire point of Kokicki's character is he's such a liar you don't know who he really is b) Kokichi also basically killed Miu, yes it was "self-defence" and he didn't do it directly, he was in no imminent danger and knew her plan, he could have avoided her death if he really was so against killing

I played the western translation, but I learned about those facts on the steam forums.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I guess you guys are waiting for me huh.
Maybe I should make it more dramatic.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

[Waiting intensifies]

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Aaaaaaand the answer IIIISSSSS.....

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kokichi sent me a motive video.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'd be angry, but I joined this game for the flavour and this is too perfect to be angry at.

Thanks!

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I liked crows reaction btw.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'd be angry, but I joined this game for the flavour and this is too perfect to be angry at.

Thanks!

But if you could confirm whether or not he's confirmed town, that would be wonderful.

I already confirmed whether or not he's confirmed town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Crows and Kaede what do you think of Kiyo's past few pages now?

I'm kinda neutral, i still dont know why he's in so much of a hurry to hammer when we havent heard from cy in a while.
The only that has happened is that my TR weakened.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kaede also
would it be too much to ask if you neighbourized me?
If possible I will try to have LLD neighbourize Kokichi

Kaede did you see this?

I did.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'd be angry, but I joined this game for the flavour and this is too perfect to be angry at.

Thanks!

But if you could confirm whether or not he's confirmed town, that would be wonderful.

I already confirmed whether or not he's confirmed town.

You posted the lie bullet song, so you're saying Kokichi is scum?

I'm not saying he's scum.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I was already planning on neighborizing Crows or Izuru as i have TRs on both and I get 2 players for the price of one!

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'm kinda neutral, i still dont know why he's in so much of a hurry to hammer when we havent heard from cy in a while.
The only that has happened is that my TR weakened.

If hebi was mislynched because I let Kokichi off for a day due to indecision, I'd be disappointed in myself.
But my townread in hebi wasn't all that strong to begin with, so I'm not sure why I was stressing out about it so much.

Ok I accept that.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

But are you saying he's town?

Yeah he's town, why?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I've been telling you guys that he's town for like pages. That should be nothing new.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Wisdom hit a couple of town tells i have of him, tho it's been a while and may be rusty, im happy calling him town atm.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

HAHA

GUESS WHO OWES WHO AN APOLOGY NOW WIS

OH WAIT THATS THE PERJURY SOUNDTRACK LMFAO

WAIT
WHAT THE FUCK

I gotta admit this was awesome.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

It would be nice if you didnt leave MS tho, im gonna miss you.

We've only played for a little while and you're already one of my favorite players.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah but modding =/= playing.

o, you were in Gistou?? I can't be bothered checking the player list (with all the hydras too) to try and find out who you are, but if you played there then you know my Town play well enough, and you know I was being pushed hard on the opening 2 gamedays still. (or did you expect to fake claim every time I roll Town??)

Anyway, with all the dramatic waiting I forgot to reply to this.
I actually didnt remember you being there, but I knew I had played with you somewhere, i mostly remember the D2 events.
In any case that game had several factions and was bastard, so there was much more danger in letting scum live a single extra day.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why the self vote hebi?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why crows? wasnt their reaction to my post towny to you?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

What information? And we have 10 days, don't you think you can find a scumread by then?

^
That too

[Kaede Akamatsu]

TRUTH BULLET

Kokichi's Motive Video has been added to the Truth Bullets section of your Monopad

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Do you love me too Ali?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why crows? wasnt their reaction to my post towny to you?

I guess, I'm not sure how you're "supposed" to react?

I liked how they felt they won over wisdom, that was towny to me.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

But I was already townreading them, Im mostly asking why you dont think that reaction was towny or at least why would it be NAI?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also Re: Site Meta
I know the current site meta's pretty bad, it didnt use to be like that, but just like site meta has changed for the worse doesnt mean it cant change for the better.
I understand your decision and will accept it anyway, but just so u know that if you decide to be around as a player again i'll always be your friend

[Kaede Akamatsu]

UNVOTE:
Okay

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well at least i dont have to worry about hating bugs.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

No one believes in poor Gonta except Koki :<

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Mod has stated that characters determine alignment

???
First of all i dont remember the mod stating that.
Second of all if that's true then mass flavor claim breaks the game.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh that, i dont think that's what the mod meant, i think they use chars, roll alignment and use the combination of both to determine the role, which is what i usually do when i mod an upick.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Wow Kaede, we are really on the same wavelength right now. We make such a good team.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Basicly
this is sorta the samething I fos'd you for Kaede D1 but kept it hidden (where you were thinking about voting Mulch but at the same time you didn't and you showed this cold feet which I thought was scummy)
Basicly that
Kiyo's approach to Kokichi and the hesitation does NOT look natural to me. It feels like they don't want to draw attention to themselves with a hammer on kokichi.
It reads extremely fucking awkward to me, and I want it dead.

pedit: I hated Gonta lmfao

Also can we talk more about this?

Anyway, I can see what you mean, that's why my townread on Kiyo was going down, but I guess I actually had different reasons.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I think they are just messing with you.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Miu's like voting everywhere

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You know what, im convinced, i'll sheep you on Kiyo
VOTE: Kiyo

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Then why is your vote on Shuichi?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kokichi-only because I trust keade-

?
You didnt trust my read on him before, why now?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kokichi-only because I trust keade-

?
You didnt trust my read on him before, why now?

You got a motive vid from him, right?

I always thoguht you were town, just that you were wrong?

Did you read that post tho?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I thought it confirmed him a friendly neightbor or something?

I put the perjury song on it, it implied my post had the opposite meaning.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Both Kiyo and Miu questioned me, i used wordplay, because i trusted what Kokichi was doing, but in no way or form i said kokichi was conf town, i only said he was town, i.e i was townreading him.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Time for:

But that was kaede's lie wasnt it?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Anyway if hebi had an ability related to motive video's why didnt she question me and Kokichi about the motive video "friendly neighbor"?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I mostly wanna know what hebi's thought process was on it.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

As for me, i had a TR on Kokichi, I dunno why he picked me for this, but I chose to believe in him, but I used the perjury song as a crumb in case i somehow died so people wouldnt falsely clear him if i was wrong, but everyone was blindly believing it so I just decided to come clean about it.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I am. Aren't I, Kaede?

Just going to say, if I was indeed to receive a motive video I didnt, so you should recheck that with the mod, I thought you were just lying and wanted me to go along with it.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I still think you're town tho, that hasnt changed.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh. It was a lie. Too bad you couldn't have gone along with it longer, Kaede. I mostly wanted to sort Wisdom with it, which is why I unvoted.

I'm a bad liar, plus I hate lying (hence why I hate playing scum), I was a bad choice for that kind of thing from the beginning.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

If people trust me less for this I can accept that, I already knew the risks about this gambit anyway.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Anyway Ali, what do you think about the motive video thing that we were questioning hebi about?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Like if she's scum, she would assume that we were both telling the truth and had no reason to question it.
But I want to see her thought process because maybe i missed something that could be town thinking.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

OH WAIT
I AM GETTING THE POINT YOU'RE GETTING ACROSS NOW.

Great

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Like if she's scum, she would assume that we were both telling the truth and had no reason to question it.
But I want to see her thought process because maybe i missed something that could be town thinking.

THat's assuming Kokichi is town which he isn't

Well yeah obviously as im going with my current read of him, but still, doesnt it strike you as odd?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well regardless I wanna hear more from hebichan on the subject.
I have several theories that could constitute town thought process, so im waiting.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

OH WAIT
I AM GETTING THE POINT YOU'RE GETTING ACROSS NOW.

Great

From what I understand, seeing someone's Motive Video would mean it does one thing, but Kokichi fakeclaimed it did something that it didn't do for Hebi? I'm wording it wierdly I know.
I don't know what it means though, and I still dunno if it means anything at all since Kokichi was fakeclaiming.

That, and the fact that he would be giving me his motive video would conflict with Hebi's ability (like, what would happen if she scanned Kokichi or me after he gave it to me?)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'ma sit on this and wait for Hebi

yeah that's what im doing too.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

"Sometimes lying is necessary to reach the truth"

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kinda funny since i already admitted to lying tho, but just wanted to reply

[Kaede Akamatsu]

If you're town trust me that I'll see it and just say the truth.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I don't know what would happen, I guess I can go ask the mod.

I think my messege thing is that I give you my motive though?

Ok so.
First of all i want to know your thought process when you saw that Kokichi was giving me his motive video as a friendly neighbor shot, including how you thought (or if you thought) it would interact with your flavor cop ability since it's motive video related as well.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Basically i want to know what went through your head in that situation.
That's all.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Hmm... that's okay I guess, not everyone's perfect.
Another question, has your read on Kokichi changed during this whole thing?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'm thinking hebi's town so im gonna keep my vote on Kiyo.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Stuff like 1883, just breaks my heart, i guess im just a sucker for these kind of things, but i cant help but see a scared townie.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

More like the "being shaken up by everything".

[Kaede Akamatsu]

And i also claimed it has a down side that im not claiming yet.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Okay, lets try and think of this a different way. Kaede, say me and Hebichan was T v T, then what do you think mafia was doing?

Probably split in the wagons.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Okay, lets try and think of this a different way. Kaede, say me and Hebichan was T v T, then what do you think mafia was doing?

Probably split in the wagons.

I just don't scumread anyone that was on Hebichan though. It would have to be in you, LLD, Crows

Hmm good point.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Possibly, I mean my initial theory if you are TvT is that scum's plan was to get one lynched after the other.
Who do you think fits that?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Did you seriously expect that there would be the entire scumteam on your wagon?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You know, there's something I've always noticed.
When people start bringing wagon analysis and VCA, they always assume scum are spread apart, I always wondered why.
When im scum i generally just play by ear because im bad at planning, im also bad at faking stuff, so I never paid any attention to who was were.

I have a hard time thinking with this mentality when scumhunting, and SPECIALLY without flips, VCA wont catch you scum, scumhunting will.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

So if i were to say.
Depending on who's actually scum and actual experience.
It could be less "planning on where to be and having a proper agenda" and more "couldnt fake a read switch", maybe?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Basically I think without knowing who's actually scum, it's hard to predict what scum are actually doing.
D1 wagons are good for analysis later down the road, not without flips, imo.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah, they should all have their chance to speak.


And i need to sleep...

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Sorry, when i get really excited in games i become a hyperposter lol

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ultimate Pianist reads list v1.0 (no specific order within each tier):

Town:

Crows (Alisae + Shiro)
Kokichi Oma
Wisdom

Towny:

Miu Iruma
Almost50
Izuru Kamukura (Himiko Yumeno + Chisa Yukizome)
hebichan

Leftovers:

Korekiyo Shinguji
Mavis Vermillion
Lady Lambdadelta
Shuichi Saihara
cytheflyguy

I feel something's wrong here.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Korekiyo Shinguji
Mavis Vermillion
Lady Lambdadelta
Shuichi Saihara
cytheflyguy

Basically my problem is, i can find reasons to townread each of these except LLD (who is mostly paranoia more than anything), and if i dont apply those reasons, then my reasons to TR A50 and Miu become weaker, so im wondering if im just wrong on those?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You townread a50? Why?

I liked the part where he thought he found a mason crumb.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why would town be looking for mason crumbs?

To not mislynch?
I mean if he's scum and found a mason crumb on someone that's getting lynched why even bother pointing it out and just let the player get lynched?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why are you townreading Izuru, Kaede?

Mostly I liked their questioning, i also liked they trying to stop my 1v1 with Kokichi, and I liked their "A happy Kaede is a town Kaede", other than that, Ali says e can read them and i trust that as well.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

UNVOTE:
Hmm not liking my vote on Kiyo anymore. Sorry Ali

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Pedit: What changed?

I misread something in an earlier post, and with the correction it sounds townier to me.

I don't know, though. I still understand why she's townreading him.

I had initially read this as "I still dont understand why she's townreading him".
With the change means that at least you can see why im feeling the way i am wrt to my reads and feels more genuine in thought.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

My problem is... unless the entire scumteam is here:

Mavis Vermillion
Lady Lambdadelta
Shuichi Saihara
cytheflyguy

One or more of my TRs is wrong.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

The only player there I'm townreading is Shuichi.
It's also day 1. I don't believe you have to be completely right.

Don't care, my policy is that I want to get as much right as possible on D1 because it's the only day im guaranteed to be alive.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Admirable, Kaede.
So what bothers you about that team, exactly?

Basically my problem is, i can find reasons to townread each of these except LLD (who is mostly paranoia more than anything), and if i dont apply those reasons, then my reasons to TR A50 and Miu become weaker, so im wondering if im just wrong on those?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Basically cy's 1980 felt like genuine progression (tho catchups are a bit harder to parse, as i dont know if he had already read further).
I also liked Yume's second guessing herself on Kokichi and her interactions with Wisdom since then.
Shuichi.... uhh... actually what has shuichi done this game again? xD

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah, i think im gonna need to re-evaluate my middle tier regardless.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You know NM, I really love how you can come up with nicknames for every username in the way Miu would.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

The video is a song from the game that plays where you have to lie to progress

Also when it's optional to lie.

the video proves nothing

It was my crumb to show the post had the opposite meaning.

Other than that, it sounds about right.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I just realized that when saying "video" you could be referring to the perjury song video or to the motive video and im probably just confusing the two.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I actually wouldn't mind lynching Cy now.

Me neither
VOTE: Cy
I have a piece of mind about the trajectory from:

So here's the thing:

Suddenly you hear something? Scum have safeclaims in this game

Given this, if Kokichi's scum he'd already have a safe claim, so it doesnt make sense for him to be waiting for the mod for something and would have used said safeclaim, im more inclined to believe what he's saying is true.

Fuuuuuck and I just saw this. Goddamn it Kaede, you're my favorite DR protag for a reason.

UNVOTE:

To:

Also also, I'm fine with Kokichi's lynch again.

VOTE: Kokichi

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also I realized something about A50 that makes him more town than I previously thought:

From my PoV why would an hypothetical scum!A50 call attention to the mason crumb, considering Kokichi was getting lynched all they needed to do was force him to claim at L-1 or lynch him and keep the crumb secret so their team would shoot the partner, it doesnt make sense for scum to do it, but it makes sense for town who wants to stop a potential mislynch.
So im rising A50 from Towny to Town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Btw, for anyone wondering, notice that the post where Cy unvoted was something i called to attention BEFORE the motive video even came into play, so the motive video being a lie should've had nothing to do with the read change.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Adding on to what Kokichi said.
An hypothetical town!cy who believes Kokichi's a friendly neighbor as per:

2) We know his claim. If hes being honest, it's not like we lost a power role.

@Wisdom: I saw someone say he was a friendly neighbor and that was never disputed. I could be wrong doe.

Why, just why would you lynch someone that can confirm themselves to someone. You get the same ammount of information without using a lynch because either A) he confirms himself as town to someone or B) Scum NKs him.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

or C) he's lying and gets lynched, but yeah, you get my point.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Is the friendly neighbor a real claim, or not?

Dont think so, but Cy implied he believed it, yet he was willing to lynch Kokichi, that's the point.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

VOTE: Kokichi

Kiyo is a good vote, but so is this lmfao

And now you're confusing me too. Weren't you positive Koki was Town at some point? Or am I misunderstanding your post here?

I think they were referring to Miu for voting Kokichi.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Anyway, aside from the friendly neighbor thing which is horrible, cy's read trajectory on kokichi's all over the place and his posts seem to disagree with his own trajectory.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Exactly. If she says she knows characters that aren't in the game then, it would be interesting to hear the flavor claims if they were given fake claims

That being said, there are three students I was told are not in the game, and 13 players and 16 students.

It's likely no one went for the monobears and we have a full class roster here.

A50- Tenko
Keade- Keade
Hebi- Tsumigi
LLD- Maki
Miu- Miu
Kiyo- Kiyo
Crows- ???
Kokichi- Kokichi
Shuichi- Shuichi
Izuru- ???
Mavis- ???
cy-???
Wisdom-???

Sirs Not appearing in this film
Hoshi/Gonta/Angie

Leaving us with
Monokuma, Monokubs 1-5
Kaito
Rentaro
Kirumi
K1-B0
Himiko

Out of those unknowns, I asked for Himiko and Kirumi before Tsumigi and did not get them.

I thought mavis softed Kirumi on page 1.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I have't introduced myself yet. How careless of me. It shall now be fixed.

Ah here.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Not sure what to think of cy's latest posts.
They sound like genuine confusion, he didnt even know what a friendly neighbor was.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well, part of my issue was with him wanting to lynch a friendly neighbor, but it checks out if he didnt know the type of power role it was.
Although i wonder why didnt he look it up first...hmm maybe im getting hung up over nothing.

P-Edit: Ah! okay, thanks Kokichi, that makes sense.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Actually on Page 64 the FN gambit hadnt happened

[Kaede Akamatsu]

But for a reaction like that, you'd think he wouldnt want to lynch Kokichi anyway instead of going with this BWCS thing.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Personally if Cy is scum and asked what a Friendly Neighbour is, the scumteam didn't tell him and told him to keep on pushing it to get a derpclear
not knowing what a Friendly Neighbour is doesn't deserve a derp clear

it's not a derp clear, its that half my reason for SRing him dissapears.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ok cy, so that you arent out of the loop and make more AI statements, im going to explain:

Friendly Neighbor isnt related to Neighborhoods (even tho it has the name Neighbor in it), it's an entire role that a player uses to tell their alignment to the player they visit (like a reverse cop).
Kokichi used me to lie about being a Friendly Neighbor to test for reactions, specifically from Wisdom, but I dont like lying and everyone seemed to have missed the perjury song which implies that i was using a lie bullet or rather, my post had the opposite meaning, so i decided to come clean earlier than intended coz i didnt want to accidentally clear scum in the case that i were wrong on Kokichi.

Does this clear up everything for you?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Dont think i didnt see you sneaking the word "hope" there shirogane

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Is this related to the whole "Kaede's lie" thing? I remember skimming over that but forgot how it was relevant.

Yes

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why do you even scumread crows anyway, your reasoning from way long ago is stale, they have way more content now.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also, that shirogane is a bit too big, that's why i resized all my Kaede sprites to 50% from the wiki ones.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I've already proven his lie, and he can't rebuttal it. IS it voting time yet? Or do people still think I'm the culprit?

No, we need to go through 100000 minigames, a rhythm game and a closing argument first.
So let's begin.

Damn I cant think of a clever question that ends in something harder to guess than Ropeway

[Kaede Akamatsu]

OOOH! I got fun games we can play.
We can play mastermind

KILL THE MIND MASTER
MASTER THE MIND KILL
On The Bone Meat

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Alright I need 4 people to want to play mastermind!

type /in to play

_ _ _

/
I
-HIDDEN MONOKUMA-
N

There I solved the Hangman's gambit

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Am I speedrunning this class trial yet.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

9857

[Kaede Akamatsu]

No ones gonna comment on my hoshi impression... I thought it was pretty good.

The fog has lifted/10

[Kaede Akamatsu]

0:1

Kaede is up again

4326

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also if you're starting to feel like wis' tunnel is agenda based please raise your hand.

Wisdom's town with an agenda!

In all seriousness I mentioned earlier that Wisdom had hit a couple town tells, the scumtells I have of him often come from D2+, but so far Im happy to call him town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Time for the most exciting minigame of V3...
yeah...


exci....ting....

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Aw I just got back from class too ;-;

Oh well

We need to go through all the motions you know!

[Kaede Akamatsu]

2323?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I believed in Kokichi's plan

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ok im finally done, time to build comic book.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

TRUTH BULLET

Crows Flavor Claim has been added to the Truth Bullets section of the Monopad

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Monokuma, you gotta be more careful, we dont want unfair executions here.
*stares at Shirogane*

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I actually like Hifumi, but I concur with the dislike of Hiyoko

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Act 1

It all began when all of us were kidnapped and forced into this killing game.
Monokuma gave us a motive telling us that some people were Mafia aligned and we had to erradicate them.

Everyone started throwing theories, and then the culprit decided to accuse Kokichi of being mafia.

Act 2

Accusations began accumulating on Tenko, because she made a comment about RVS.
Then the culprit took the opportunity to defend Tenko against their attackers. As they already knew, the were not the culprit

Act 3

Everyone was heading to their respective labs to do their things, meanwhile, Me and Kokichi started accusing each other.
The culprit observed with a grin on their face.
As the debate heated, ???(Wisdom) decided to support me, and Kaito came in defending him.

Act 4

Kokichi brought his alibi, showing the work he was doing analysing all of our actions to figure out the culprit.
I realized his alibi was correct and decided to pursue Shirogane, who had kept mostly silent.
Meanwhile, the culprit dissapeared as all the bickering began, then a full out non stop debate started across Kaito, ???(Wisdom), Miu, Kokichi, Shirogane and myself.

Act 5

As the discussion faded, Kiyo decided that Kokichi needed to be executed, at this point Kokichi whispered to me a plan to find the real culprit.
I decided to lie about the motive video because I trusted Kokichi's plan, as everyone got confused the votes spread, the culprit realizing his plan was failing decided to back off.
Once the lie was getting too dangerous, I came clean and told the truth about Kokichi's plan, the culprit took this one opportunity to try to get Kokichi executed.



This is the truth of your lies, isnt it?

cytheflyguy, The Ultimate "idfk"

Disclaimer:

Events may have been made more dramatic than they actually were.

Disclaimer 2:

There may be some disparities with what actually happened, but i thought it would sound cooler this way.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Now to read all the P edits i had to go through due to writing that.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'm fucking laughing my ass off you made my day.

Thanks!

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Hi Kiyo, how's everything.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Hello Kaede.
I'm fine, yourself? I'll read up in a moment.

You will probably notice I've been enjoying myself a lot.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I seem to have missed this until i scrolled up and saw kokichi countering it.

ASSUMING KOKICHI IS TOWN: WHY WOULDN'T SCUM BE PUSHING SOMEONE ELSE BY NOW? Kokichi clearly isn't a Town leader, so why him over anyone else?

Why would scum push somewhere else when Wisdom's yelling almost every other page to lynch him?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Good to hear. I read your summary of events. An excellent breakdown.

Thanks! Tried to make it sound like an actual closing argument, hope it was fun to read.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I seem to have missed this until i scrolled up and saw kokichi countering it.

ASSUMING KOKICHI IS TOWN: WHY WOULDN'T SCUM BE PUSHING SOMEONE ELSE BY NOW? Kokichi clearly isn't a Town leader, so why him over anyone else?

Why would scum push somewhere else when Wisdom's yelling almost every other page to lynch him?

Because even assuming Kokichi flips Town they gain nothing. It's not like they can lynch Wisdom off a wrong read (IF it's a wrong read).

If scum gained nothing off mislynching someone, Lynchbaits wouldnt exist.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

To clarify: I know Koki retracted all of his fake claims by now. But how the hell did hebi play along with that fake claim back then???

Did you warp portal through our questioning of hebi?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'm starting to think you just want to get Kokichi and Kaito executed coz you think they are degenerate males.
</joke>

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Anyway the serious question is, do you still think Crows is scum? and if Yes, do you seriously think Crows reaction to my lie looked like scum?