Danganronpa V3 Upick! Game over!

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I like parties.

And hello, I'm excited to meet all of you. You may call me Kiyo if you like.
While I may seem like a suspicious person, I assure you I'm only here to observe.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

You're absolutely right Almost, how careless of me.
VOTE: cytheflyguy

Now would be a good time to say that I am, unfortunately, not well-liked. You could even say hated.
But I don't mind. Regardless of how you all feel about me, this situation in which we've found ourselves is quite... exciting.

Why do you suspect him as well, Kokichi?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Why do you suspect him as well, Kokichi?

Would you like the truth or a lie?

I wonder if my answer to this question even matters. Answer however you like, I'll decide how to take it.

I'm also curious as to whether my modifier will show up on a votecount, but it's an idle curiousity more than a burning one.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

A compulsion would imply Kokichi isn't a liar by choice.
Speaking of, I don't know if that

is

my job, Kokich. Surely our capable detective's abilities are more suited. But if you'd like me to examine you myself more... thoroughly, I'm sure something could be arranged. I do have my own talents.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I also didn't like the line that the bird brain quoted.

I don't see a quote in his post. Unless you're referring to "to whom it may concern"?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Seems it doesn't show up on votecounts.
Does that tell you anything, Crows? I'm unsure of any motivation there is to lie, but even my considerable experience could be lacking.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I can't tell if you're hitting on me or planning to kill me. Either way, I'm totes interested. I bet there is nothing creepy about you at all~

No, absolutely nothing at all. Though others may have different opinions. the lens with which we all see the world is so variable.


VOTE: Izuru Kamukura

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I have a formal request.
If you are indeed innocent and not the culprit, please leave them to us.
We'll take care of them.

What can I do with such a polite request but listen?
For now.


But if you're asking me to join you against Almost, I'll have to decline. I've seen no reason to be interested.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Why can't you just trust me? Don't you all talk about trusting each other so often.

...Says the one who seems to trust no one.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I see it too, what could be read as a "threat".

And, as one of the people who knows him, I know what he was actually referring to. But yes, I do see how it could be read that way. As it stands I don't like the wagon, but I haven't sorted Almost yet either. I would appreciate if I got a chance to, however.

Kokichi, did something happen to your earlier suspicion of Almost?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Speaking of which, everything is essentially baseless on Day 1. We do the best we can with our detective skills.

So you do find the Crows argument illogical?
And yet it seems you're taking advantage of its existence all the same...
Even with a 'baseless' first day, surely you can do better than that?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

To get you active. If you're truly a spotless, you can help us win this game. But, I haven't seen the same energy I expected from you. Why do you TR Shuichi and Hebi on gut?

Why the focus on Kaede's activity? She has been present and accounted for consistently.
Granted, I don't seem to have insight into whatever prior relationship you two seem to have, but I'm not sure what your series of questions has accomplished, or where you stand.
How much of 157 is still accurate for you? I find your opinion on Almost's wagon to be dissatisfying.

Do your best to tell the truth.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

You really expect a lot from me, huh? I'll try not to disappoint you, but it would help if more of my friends believed in me.

I did have my doubts, but I can empathize with the frustration surrounding Almost50 now that I've seen what's come of it.
I consider you all my friends. I believe in every single one of you. Blackened, and spotless. We are all doing our very best.

What has you suspicious of cy? I've gotten an idea from 363, but that sounds more like a reason not to townread him rather than one to call him scum.

on L-2 6 hours into the game

There's no need to be so antsy. It provided information and got the game rolling. Granted there are a lot of shitty hammers onsite for some reason, so I guess that tactic is less effective. Or more effective?

What was your opinion on Kokichi's call to slow down the wagon whilst supporting Almost's lynch?
Personally, I don't have a strong opinion on cy either way, but if I were to sort him now, it wouldn't be as the blackened.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Didn't think the angle 188 comes from is especially town-minded in origin

I don't have a case

I missed this post entirely.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

WOOOOOOOOOOOW
WHAT A BIG SHOCKER
OH MY GOD
IT MAKES A WHOLE DIFERENCE IN THE WORLD.

Oh, but it does. It means the question I asked previously is rather meaningless, wouldn't you say? I already have my answer.
Why does his explanation not make a difference?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Does

everything

look like a dramatic overreaction to you, Crows?
It's a cute sprite. Any opportunity to use it will be taken.

Pedit: You've never played with Mavis, have you hebi?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

What do Miu's insults have to do with her scumhunting, Izuru? You mentioned townhunting to deal with the roleplayers.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

i was going for "read" yes

Why haven't I gotten any questions? Or an answer to mine.
I might get lonely if I'm ignored for too long.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

also torque said the thing you asked about

I couldn't find an answer. If you could quote the answer to my question, that would be most helpful.

Cy is leantown, hebi has earned attention as I don't like 410 but was null before, and Wisdom is one that I'll need more time with.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Crows, I'm not sure who you're referring to from my post.

I don't like you not liking my posts with no explanation.

You aren't very patient, are you? Izuru's question did not merit elaboration.
But I'll do you a kindness and explain myself.
It seems to imply you trust Crows enough to listen and unvote while completely disagreeing with the premise, and you've taken 399 to be somewhat of an attack on you for not knowing this about Mavis based on points 1 and 2.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

you asked about a thing torque said

i haven't talked to torque about it so i don't know how seriously torque is taking it

I'll happily wait, then.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Crows, if I had a feverish, desperate desire to murder anyone in this academy right this second...

You would know.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I townread crows. I see a lot of unfounded meta defenses day one.

That being said, I understand pragmatism and the importance of compromise.

I think crows was being aggressive, not sure I think of it as a personal attack, just frustration. If you aren't held accountable for your day one actions, you'll never be a good day one player.

I did not mean a personal attack, but rather a general one, but I do find your explanation satisfactory.
Why do you townread Crows?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Most of it.
I can see you're going for some sort of inward progression, but the way you say what you're doing so plainly leads me to believe that's the image you want to project rather than what's actually happening.
And you've neglected to elaborate on why you're so confident in Almost scum.
Why must you announce the purpose of your votes? It weakens any sort of pressure they might hold in the future.

Good thing this isn't a secret alt, or I would have been upset.
Still, breaking character is... frustrating.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

It was to Kokichi, but Miu was quicker on the draw with a post that says essentially the same thing.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

VOTE: Kaede I don't believe Kaede as town would make the post about giving me space because of my restriction and then vote me after the post I made, which is NAI.

What I don't believe is you buying that anyone believes in your restriction, including Kaede.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

What I wasn't expecting was for Kokichi's ISO to be so very

boring.

I was asked to towncase him.

I have to express my townread on him. I am not sure what more you expected of me.

I wouldn't call it a towncase. I did want to know where your townread was coming from, though. Just the one post?

Hello, other half of Crows. Where do you stand on Kokichi, Almost50, and cy?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

If I remember correctly, the only time Kokichi turned his attention my way long enough to actually respond was when I was hitting on him.
...I wonder if I should try again.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

VOTE: Kokichi

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Kokichi seems to carefree to be a murderer. Someone with a.heave. conscisness of murders doesnt act like that.

Almost is meh, his sarcasm early on was meh,and the meh feeling has stayed.

I dont even remember the cy personI had to ask Ali who that was. He showed me their ISO and they apparenly voted us or something for thinking A50 is meh. I am null tbh.

The only 'carefree' vibe I've gotten from his posts are the ones that are entirely roleplay.
I suppose I'll thank you for answering about the others, though it's told me very little.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Kokichi, why not answer my questions at the time they were asked, instead of waiting and then posting a large wall of reads?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I meant to ask the other day: Almost, why is it that you're townreading me?

I thought I had explained that I felt the same as Crows' did, but apparently I didn't.

You did explain they quoted a post you also didn't like.
I was wondering where the confidence in 157 came from and why you were concerned with slowing down Almost's wagon.

As much as I'd love to continue observing all of you, I'll have to take my leave for the night. I'll be in my room if anyone would like to arrange a meeting. Of any sort.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Us Owls from the C.A.W. Agency feel as if Kokichi key stances on suspects say nothing in the grand scheme of things. As such we feel as if he could be the murderer.
However it is not midnight, and us Owls want to interogate Hebichan before cuffing the murderer.

Which head is this?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

((Oh come on, we format our posts differently))

So, Alisae?
The readslist got rid of your gut townread, then?
If anything, some of the things in it are making me less sure of my own scumread, such as what he says about Kaede. He was saying nothing before, but now is when you agree he isn't?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I don't think I was ever concerned about it, but they were my reads at the time, why wouldn't I out them?

This is way too early in the class trial to determine the culprit. Let's wait for everyone to participate.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Shinguji, Kokichi and Miu all are using roleplay to sort of generate fake content up until now. I feel like Kokichi's poking at people could be interpreted as some sort of sorting meathod, meanwhile Miu and Shinguji both jumped on kokichi while it was an easy wagon. Kokichi seems to be focusing on less popular wagons.

I feel like out of the three, there is more likely scum in Miu and Shiguji, maybe even both of them scum. I think Kokichi's wagon is being scumled. Though, I think his self vote that early is not AI.


p-edit: That is a goood point, how can you examine your wagon if you jump on it first thing?

To be compared to Miu... This feeling might be worse than being hated.


I object to this dismissal of using roleplay to "fake content" when, whether or not you agree it's town content, all three of us have been playing the game. Where is this so called fake content from me, might I ask? It seems you've just made a blanket statement about the roleplayers.

As for Almost50... encouraging his own wagon for reads is something I've had to deal with in the past as his hydra partner, as both alignments.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

VOTE: kokichi

lld i prefer this first, sorry

Why are you townreading LLD?

I understand Kaede's distrust of Miu, somewhat, but I can't shake the feeling she's town from how she's approached the game so far. I'd rather not lynch her.
I'm less interested in seeing Kokichi hang than I was. The good news is, Wisdom could be town here.
VOTE: hebi
I do prefer this to Kokichi. I'd rather not dig through posts, but his posting immediately after the readslist does not look like scum frustrated their big play didn't work.
That, and he's doing a bad job of sounding dishonest. It's possible I'm misreading where his Miu and Almost reads are coming from, but... I don't think so.

Did you know that indirect speech and even lying is considered normal in some cultures? In such a place, being direct would be what is rude... it all depends on perspective. Everyone, in their own way, is doing their best to be heard.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Hebi has been defensive throughout. Is this what you found yourself scumreading her for in other towngames, Miu?

What I find suspicious is how she responds to any criticism with saying she doesn't know the person, or she's lost. It's an attempt to remove accountability. It's possible she really has no belief in her own positions, but I did not get that impression until after she began to be questioned.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

You should be so lucky as to be compared to the gorgeous girl genius you crazy little freak.

Did you say something?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Now I still think you maybe Town, but your reasoning for town casing yourself do not hold water, and -it follows- that you SRing someone for failing to TR you based on it is really bad.

I disagree. Kokichi brought up the initial scumread on Kaede and said it was because she wasn't behaving like the Kaede he knew. If I was Kaede, I would probably have responded similarly, especially when I agree she's seemed motivated and not sidelining as Kokichi was implying. I do agree that self-meta isn't useful, but Kaede using it in this situation makes sense.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I see. I would like to see what has caused Miu to misread her in the past.
What did you think of Kokichi's Kaede read?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I'm not convinced hebi is town, but I am getting the impression Wisdom was sorting her earlier. I suppose I'll have to wait and come back later, but I feel like posting now.

I wouldn't call it a towncase. I did want to know where your townread was coming from, though. Just the one post?

hebi, did you answer this about your Crows townread? Are you still confident in it? Earlier you said your only good read was on LLD, but before that you seemed happy with calling Crows town.

I might go back to Kokichi. I do want to see more from LLD that isn't in her neighbourhood with hebi, though.
Almost, what's your opinion on these two, when you're caught up?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Note: If Crows tries to argue they never actually TR'd Mavis I'd like to point out they didn't explicitly but they opposed her lynch calling for her to be given a pass on D1. We all deserve passes on D1. Everyone's reads are shit on D1. Everyone needs to see some flips to better their reads. Should we no lynch then???

I did say the same thing about Mavis, to be fair. But I'm also content to let Crows read Mavis, and I'm not scumreading Crows like you are. I see lynching her today as a coinflip that I'll likely not pursue so long as I have a better idea of who scum is.
How do you feel about Kokichi now that you're aware it wasn't a mason crumb? He's actually who I meant to ask you about earlier, but I was not clear.

LLD: What has you suspicious of Wisdom and me? I'm also interested in your Izuru read.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

The Crows "campaign" on me was shit, and for a shitty reason. I don't know though if it was influenced by Shiro (who tends to scum read me more often than not) or if Alisae really thought he could sort me out on D1 (given Alisae had seen me do all kinds of shit on D1, and not to mention there really is no reason for anyone to scum read me off of what I had posted so far).

What I don't get is the scum motivation behind asking about the lack of RVS votes. What did both Crows and Kokichi actually find scummy about it? This question is obviously not to you. I'd think after really thinking about it one would find there's no particular reason scum would post something 'odd' when they wouldn't as town, but in his readslist Kokichi doubled down on it.
I don't know about Crows. I don't really understand what Alisae is thinking with some of eir reads, either. I might have to give them another look.

Also, you're not "all in" just yet, and that's a "weak" town tell of yours. As a scumster you'd probably have had more impact on the game already.

I wasn't aware this was a tell for me, even a weak one.

But I'm sure you have an example to back it up regardless of your alignment, so I suppose it doesn't matter right now.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I did read that.
What I should have asked was "Why are you scumreading Kokichi?".

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I was aware Alisae and Almost had experience with each other, so I'm expecting an explanation on why NAI posts from Almost50 are so scummy to em.

What do you mean they pushed LLD to make the first move? Crows was scumreading hebi first but asked LLD to lead it?

Pedit: Oh, a post.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Your Shuichi read is actually bullshit btw

Why are you townreading Shuichi?
I was scumreading him before a specific series of posts, myself.

I do agree about Mavis to an extent, but I can't say whether he knows your relationship to her or not, so I'll stay out of that part.
Why are those other posts you pointed out so scummy?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

HOLY FUCK THIS IS ALSO TERRIBLE
Mostly with your Yume read, where you came out of a post scumreading them and saying "They are a strong scumread" and then backtrack on to fucking this.

Alisae, if you're town here. Perhaps listen to me? You evidently don't know Almost's play as well as you think you do.
I'd like to know why the posts you called out are ones town Almost doesn't make. Especially the one about Kokichi's self vote.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Nope
They're confirmed scum to me until proven otherwise.

What is it you think I'm trying to do?

I don't understand the downside of discussing it with me, if you're town and want to show he's scum.
Are you scumreading me, then?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

No you're probably town who is just getting played by a50

Would you stop dismissing what I have to say, then?
I'm nowhere near able to read him perfectly, but I don't enjoy being ignored. Why are you refusing to engage with me? You can't possibly be this certain he's scum.
Answer me about the post I pointed out.

Pedit: Posts.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Crows seems to be not interested in actually engaging with me, wisdom, miu, or shinguji.

Please, call me Kiyo.


UNVOTE:

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

LOL
YEAH THIS IS A TOWNBLOC
ME, SHUICHI, AND LLD ARE ALL TOWN
THIS IS SCUM
TRYING TO BREAK THAT UP
BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT IS A PROBLEM
AND THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE TRING US
AND ITS FUCKING WORKING.

I really don't care about your townblock right now, and I don't really understand why you seem to be so personally upset by the game. I'm sorry you are, though. I do enjoy playing with you.
But I would like to actually talk to you about things later, if you're able.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I can see I'm not getting a talk right now. Time to go try and untangle the neighbourhood mess, I suppose.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I'd like to talk to you, since I think you're town. What are your strongest reads?

I wanted to talk to Crows about their Almost scumread because I believe it's misguided, and I was scumreading them for it, but I'm not so sure about that now so I'm going to let it be.
But, sure, we can chat as well.

My reads are experiencing a bit of flux at the moment. I'm attempting to sort through Crows/LLD/Shuichi, and yourself and hebi. I agree with you about Shuichi looking town, but I don't know about 'consistently'. If there's any scum in the hood my best guess is LLD, but as of now she's only null.

Speaking of, LLD: I asked a question about your reads earlier.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

As I said, I was preetty much reading the game based on who I like rather than the sate of the game. On my reread, I noticed I was making up reasons to townread you, because I found you entertaining, not because you were sorting people.

Miu changed afterwords, I think she genuinely posted more content. Shinguji I was more or less ignoring his posts for whatever reason first time through.

I want to like this post for town, some.

But being ignored is a little...

Go back and read the interaction between Hebi and Wisdom when I first voted Hebi. When Wisdom voted Hebi. Read how that plays out and wonder if there isn't something deeply WRONG with that reaction.

That interaction in particular is why I began to townread Wisdom. What's wrong with it? It has the subtle sorting I would expect to see and have townread him for in the past.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

One good post does not a townie make one good post does not a townie make don't just drop your reads and 180 because of how genuine that paranoia feltttttttttttttttttttttt

Speaking of feeling genuine, this feels... not.
Thank you for the answer, however.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

It wasn't meant for you, it was meant for me when I look back at this to be able to stay the course.

You know, since I have DID and all.

But hey, you'll call this theatrics too so fuck you both who cares.

I don't appreciate this. My feelings about your posts in a mafia game have nothing to do with out of game factors, particularly factors like this one, which, no, I would not call theatrics.
The post I pointed to just earlier, however? Yes, I will.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

In my opinion he has been. Think about all the info we have gotten because of him. Him putting his vote on me caused a lot of discussion. And do you really think LLD would pull this kind of thing as mafia? I just don't see it.

Well, in the end it doesn't matter too much as I see where you came to the read on Shuichi.

I don't know LLD, so I can't say what she would or would not pull as mafia, but I don't think she's done anything particularly surprising in the first place. Neighbourizing someone and then deciding to scumread them isn't really a big deal to me.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Kokichi:

Yes, you sheeping after a quick read over to the biggest wagon is weird! Especially when you said my wagon was

scum driven

!

hebi explained the changes in her reads on the

scum

who were on her wagon, Miu and I.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Hmmmmm, Wisdom's arguments are getting weaker

Is this going to be your way to bus hebichan eventually?

It slipped my mind in my earlier post, but Miu is a good townread.
Why does Miu start laying the groundwork for bussing hebichan here?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Just because you aren't my strongest scumread doesn't mean it's not a good vote.

I was recently told me about getting a good lynch, that doesnt always have to be a scum lynch.

Your flip would inform me about the state of the game a lot.

What do his town and scumflips tell you?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Uhh scumslip?

Who was bussing you?

You're the one who said Kokichi's scumflip doesn't make the entire wagon locktown.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Well, I do want to vote now, but have no idea of the count.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I think she's definitely mafia and just BSing things at this point. I can't see it any other way. When I try to get her to elaborate, she tries throwing shade and then can't answer.

I'm not sure. I've had some issues with her but so far her explanations have all seemed to make sense. Her answer about what your flip would say of the gamestate is also not what I'd expected were she scum.
And what questions hasn't she answered? As I pointed out, she already explained about calling your wagon scum driven, and saying "But Kiyo and Miu weren't

leading

it" seems pedantic at best.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Kiyo, you can't be serious. You seriously are buying her explanation? None of it makes sense.

Can you point to something in specific? You said she didn't answer, but it looks to me like she did and you didn't like the answers. It's not really the same.

She said Miu started to look better (I agree), and she said she was plain wasn't reading my posts. It's annoying, but not the first time I've been low-priority. That does remind me, though.
hebi, what's your read on me now, then?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Just posted an example.

I asked her about that post and she elaborated.
What about her earlier answers, why weren't they satisfactory?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I don't know if Kokichi is trying to get me to listen because he believes I'm more likely to do so than others, or if it's just because he's town and townreading me.
It just looks like he's combing her ISO at this point, but I've done that as town when I've needed to convince others. That said, I don't see a real effort to understand hebichan's positions.

Pedit: Stop making towny posts when I'm trying to scumread you, Kokichi.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

ali im starting to be happy you'll quit playing

Don't make posts like this. Keep it to this game.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I don't care
Idunno why you think I do.

It's less to do with you and more that I like a pleasant environment in general. But, alright.

Pedit: Oh hello, Almost.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Hi. I'll be asking you for a little favour. Just ISO me during the night phase and read everything I said. Can you do that for me?

Consider it done.


The only players on the Kokichi wagon I'm unsure about are hebi and possibly Almost.
Kokichi's tone continues to be town but I've been wrong before, I don't know. I'd like to see where cy is first regardless.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

What aout your reads off the wagon?

I believe Crows is town, I honestly can't remember where Shuichi is voting now (it might be no one) but I think he's town too. LLD could be scum, and Izuru remains as nullscum. Cy, I'm uncertain on.
Oh, and Kaede looks town.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Can you show me where Mavis is town at all. Or outed their reason for scumreading me. Cy as well (though I think his vote is still a joke)

Thanks for reminding me. I've been refreshing for the votecount.
Mavis is null. I'm hoping to see what Alisae says about her on a later day. Cy is nullish town.
I suppose I'm actually townreading the vocal supporters of your wagon rather than most of it.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Kinda weird you would only talk about my side and not that side, when I think Crows and Kaede are your strongest townreads.

Where did you get the idea that those two are my strongest? I haven't really ranked them, but Kaede is one of my weaker townreads and Crows is only in there because of the situation earlier. I don't like any of their reads. Wisdom and Miu are good townreads, however.

I'm not making my decision based on which wagon I like better.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Should be *which wagon composition I like better.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Kokichi: I don't really feel like going through her ISO to towncase her when she isn't likely to be lynched anytime soon. I probably couldn't, anyway, as it's nothing specific. Her positions have been very strong and I like most of her stances.

Pedit: If you're town, Almost, I'll figure it out.
Or get very very paranoid in LyLo. Either or.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

So you can't say one reason off the top of your head why one of your strongest reads is town?

...Not what I said, no.
I believe my answer is in the post earlier. Her posting looks rather transparently town to me and I'd find it difficult to point to something in specific, and I like her reads. Which is what I just told you.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

All of Miu's stances have been repeating what Wisdom says and also SRing Crows, who is one o f your TRs.

I was scumreading Crows up until recently, too. Though I started with them at leantown, sure. It sounds like you've already made your mind up about Miu.
Are you just looking for things to pick at in general?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Mods, I'm not voting anyone currently.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

It's possible I didn't declare intent, but rather 'intent once cy returns'.
And hebi is at L-3, technically.

Pedit: Intent to hammer.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

There's a ritual to these things, Miu. I wouldn't expect you to understand.

Provided Kokichi arrives before I head to sleep.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Ah, you're right. I was looking at the fixed votecounts. Third time's the charm, Dunnstral?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

That would make sense.
But I've no intention of voting hebi. I see where you're townreading Kokichi, but I think it's a case of my earlier toneread there being wrong.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Because I think you're scum. It could easily swing the other way if I sit around.
Are you going to claim?

How embarrassing.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Do tell.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

If you hammer me before Cy and his joke vote comes back, you're scum

I wasn't aware scum can't have RVS or joke votes on them. I do apologize.

Pedit: You seriously have a restriction preventing you from confirming yourself?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Why didn't you ask her about all this earlier?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Would you believe me if I told you... it looked like a lie.

Pedit: I suppose I don't mind either, if he can really confirm himself. It would be as good as a flip if he's town.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I don't know why I'm bothering. There's every reason to lie about it. I'm not sure how a town confirmation while he's still alive even fits with Kokichi's flavour.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Is there scum utility in Kokichi staying alive for one night only to be lynched later when he isn't confirmed town?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Haha.
I believe I still would have lynched you if you'd claimed cop.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

You said I was town for suspecting you, tried to appeal to me, and when that didn't work went to saying I'm scum. It sounds cut and dry.
Even with that, I hate being wrong.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Or he's trying to get hebi mislynched before he goes with his IC claim.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

No? That makes no sense if I have a fake claim.

A fakeclaim is just a safeclaim. It doesn't stop a lynch. What doesn't make sense?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Kiyo. Let's make a deal. If you lynch me and I flip town, you volunteer to be the lynch tomorrow. Since you're suddenly so certain I'm scum.

I think this has devolved into an attempt to scare me away from your lynch.

Pedit: As if I would take such a deal to begin with, Kaede. If I started gamethrowing every time I was wrong about something I would be banned.
But I don't think I'm wrong. You change your tune whenever it's convenient.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Well they don't know if you're a confirmable town, and if they scumread you they're going to think this is a stalling tacitc.

Why are you trying to convince him I'm town instead of convincing me hebi is scum?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

And Kaede.
I might just hammer and call it a night. The only reason I'm hesitating is an IC claim that looks like a convenient lie.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I made my stance on Hebi and why she is scum extremely clear, if you want to engage me about it, then do so.

I don't think hebi is scum, I've seen the arguments for it.
I did want to engage you on Almost, but you shut me down pretty thoroughly.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I was never in Gistou, Almost.
But no, you're correct. I know there's a reason. If he wants a mislynch that won't happen if he flips scum first, or has role utility he wants to use at night.

Pedit: I understand you're referencing that Kokichi doesn't like killing in canon.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Decisions are not my forte.



If Crows is scum after all, it's with Kokichi.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

There is also something else that's bothering me that definitely points towards you being town, but I rather not to talk about it right now.

Why on earth not? I've typed out a vote on him twice by this point.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

If he's scum I'm going to feel like an idiot.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

But, fine. It's early in the day. I'm going to go finish my work and de-stress. There was no point in stressing out to begin with.
Pedit: Yes.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

You've confirmed yourself to Kaede?
If that's true, why did you wait to say so? I could've hammered you at any time there.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

It was quite the risk.

Kaede should confirm it, but he's confirmed town if it's true.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

You have to admit, it's very Kokichi-like.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Yep! We always have to wait on the protagonist!

I have some bad news for you

Anything is possible!

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Kokichi sent me a motive video.

I'd be angry, but I joined this game for the flavour and this is too perfect to be angry at.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I'd be angry, but I joined this game for the flavour and this is too perfect to be angry at.

Thanks!

But if you could confirm whether or not he's confirmed town, that would be wonderful.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

...With the perjury soundtrack, Kaede.

You're just messing with me, aren't you.

Pedit: Possibly hebi. I don't think I'm wrong on Wisdom. I'd need to think it over. My reads weren't really formed with the assumption you were scum.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I'm kinda neutral, i still dont know why he's in so much of a hurry to hammer when we havent heard from cy in a while.
The only that has happened is that my TR weakened.

If hebi was mislynched because I let Kokichi off for a day due to indecision, I'd be disappointed in myself.
But my townread in hebi wasn't all that strong to begin with, so I'm not sure why I was stressing out about it so much.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I want to say Wisdom was town, but he kept tunneling me without engaging, isn't that weird?

That's how he is when he has someone as lockscum. I wouldn't call it a scumtell for Wisdom. He's not infallible though, evidently.
It's possible I'm wrong, but I've seen no reason to think so yet.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

A bit too late. I'm at L-2 and Hebichan and Kiyo will likely both vote me. So it's a moot point by now.

I won't be voting you. And yes, I see now you aren't confirmed town.
I'll get to the rest later. Good night.
Crows: What prompted your switch from attempting to convince Kokichi I'm town to thinking I'm scum?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

chara i hate you for not hammering

By all counts I should have. I was right about it being a lie.
When it was revealed to be so by Kaede it was late enough I didn't really think about it. I don't know, though. I still understand why she's townreading him. And considering it ended up being a gambit I understand why it all felt so fake when I was about to hammer.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Why are you townreading Izuru, Kaede?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Ah. I also liked their read on you, but that would be it.
It leaves a bad taste in my mouth to leave reading players up to Alisae when e has decided not to listen to me regarding Almost's NAI posting. When e was townreading me, anyway.

I don't find hebi's role to be particularly town or scum. It could be a scum JOAT role she isn't claiming fully or just a town role. But I don't really want to lynch her today.
Granted, not lynching Almost or myself would be nice too.

Pedit: What changed?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Well, yes. I thought Kokichi's play just felt towny as well, and said as much. But a lot of his questions seemed pointless and I didn't feel he was genuinely trying to read hebi. It seemed to make sense he was just scum and my gut was off. But it all seemed like an attempt to easily lynch hebi.
It doesn't matter now, I don't think I want to lynch him. While it seems obvious to me what scum would be stalling for, Kokichi's continued ignorance of it didn't feel fake like his attempts to get me to stop voting him did.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

The only player there I'm townreading is Shuichi.
It's also day 1. I don't believe you have to be completely right.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I don't really care, Wisdom. If I was planning on townreading him outright I wouldn't have nearly voted him so many times.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Admirable, Kaede.
So what bothers you about that team, exactly?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I appear to be on your radar regardless of his flip, don't I? I don't care about being scumread, but I don't enjoy being on a mislynch. Or letting scum get away. Ugh.

Pedit: Ah. I should have put two and two together.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Shuichi is a middling townread for the way his vote on Almost played out. I'm certain scum could get annoyed with Almost too, but.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

He's not caught up yet.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Nope. My lynch was very easy, almost happened. Same with hebichan. I think mafia was setting up a tvt

While I don't believe that wagon speed indicates scumminess either way without more flips, I do agree that Kokichi's townflip would not make hebi scum necessarily.
Waiting for Almost to catch up.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

no, because i know how to read him and hes town

I'm also more confident he's town.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Why are none of those points "I think Kokichi will flip scum"?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

@Wisdom: I saw someone say he was a friendly neighbor and that was never disputed. I could be wrong doe.

So, you believe he claimed friendly neighbour, which makes him confirmable as town to the player he neighbourizes... and you're happy to lynch him?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

1981 is fairly far removed from the reaction of someone wanting to lynch Kokichi for information. Did he say he wasn't scumreading Kokichi earlier, or just that he isn't scumreading him now?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Wisdom is pursuing his own ideals. It's quite inspiring to behold.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I'd like to know about your Izuru townread myself, Almost. I'm not seeing it.

As for Shuichi, I'd prefer to wait until he's present and accounted for.
If LLD could post in the game thread, it would be nice. I want to see how she feels about the situation with Kokichi, hebi, and myself.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I didn't mean right this second, hebi. We all have lives. I just get the sense a lot of her play so far has been in neighbourhoods so it's difficult to know her thoughts.

Pedit: Possibly. It would be odd to be to find someone claiming a safe character to cover for their scum character when we have hebi openly claiming Tsumugi, and myself, but there's no harm in asking.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

This was never disputed or Kokichi asked why did she say that. Nothing was argued. This is what he claimed in the neighborhood. This is not a powerrole, and therefor, is a good canidate for BWCS.

What do you think a friendly neighbour is, cy?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Fucking Gonta is the worst character

AMA

VOTE: LLD

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Hello Kaede.
I'm fine, yourself? I'll read up in a moment.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Good to hear. I read your summary of events. An excellent breakdown.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I'm formally requesting as an out of game gift that people give me 24 hours to stop hating the world the last 48 have been hellish and I have gotten very little sleep.

Certainly. Take all the time you need.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

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Izuru is more of an impression (gut). Izuru's posts feel like they're carefree with no planning and no agenda. It's true they're mostly not very informative nor are they influencing the game much, but they're also not harmful nor are they directing the flow anywhere at all (i.e. I don't see them defending someone hard enough nor attacking someone hard enough. In other words, not trying to force a lynch on anyone or prevent a lynch on anyone).
Could Izuru be scum? Yes. But that would make them midiocore scum and are likely to be found out in due time. I still think that's more like a townie who just isn't worried about anything and is having fun playing the game.

Hm. So our thinking on them doesn't differ, but I see why our conclusions do.

Wisdom's town with an agenda!

I laughed.

Also this popin feels really wolfy lmfao

I'm having trouble believing you've played any game with Almost before.
That, or you're tunneling.

if only chara had hammered back then

I refrained from doing so to annoy you. And, call me Kiyo. <3

To important things now. Hopefully.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Personally if Cy is scum and asked what a Friendly Neighbour is, the scumteam didn't tell him and told him to keep on pushing it to get a derpclear
not knowing what a Friendly Neighbour is doesn't deserve a derp clear

it's not a derp clear, its that half my reason for SRing him dissapears.

This is where I pause with cy. The way he was speaking about Kokichi's claim gave me the impression he didn't know what it actually meant, not that there was a contradiction. Of course, it's difficult to tell because he may as well have not read the game at all from how much he seems to have understood of that section. Hopefully he does, now.

To make a long story I don't feel like detangling the logic of right now short, I don't see any issues with cy's logic. Kokichi didn't catch him in a lie. Whether that makes him town is another story.
I don't get the impression Kokichi is playing dumb, though.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I'm reading up, but will likely be somewhat busy today.
I don't see what's opportunistic from Miu, either. I wonder if I shouldn't have gone back on it to begin with. I don't know, I keep going back and forth on it. Eventually I'll get the motivation to sift through Kokichi's ISO, too.

Pedit: Yes, hello. That's me, Kokichi's buddy.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Wow I've never been so confident in a scum read in my life.

He literally just explained why he buddied with Kaede. Like...what more proof do y'all need?

It looks like an explanation as to why he chose Kaede to try the gambit with, and why he townreads her so much. What exactly is the problem you have?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Wow I've never been so confident in a scum read in my life.

He literally just explained why he buddied with Kaede. Like...what more proof do y'all need?

It looks like an explanation as to why he chose Kaede to try the gambit with, and why he townreads her so much. What exactly is the problem you have?

Bottom of the page, so perhaps you missed it.
I finished the ISO. I am by no means confident, but I don't want to lynch him. Call me susceptible to AtE if you want, but I'm not saying this because Kokichi is frustrated.

This is the part where I'd vote cy, but that would be pointless to do now because I buy the roleclaim regardless of his alignment. So no, I don't have a good lynch alternative yet.

Pedit: What changed? Why do you want to be sure now?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

It may be a post you missed as well, but my brain was fried yesterday after finals. Do you not find it suspicious that my worst performance was in a 12 timespan?

I'm not sure how this is relevant? I know you were tired. My question was regarding your decision to move from 'optimal vote placement' to 'i really want to lynch scum today', and what prompted it if anything.

Honestly, I have no idea how to feel about my vote. I don't want to trust him. I had very mixed feelings about his play style. I assumed that because he was more then likely to be lynched, then that would be a good vote for me in the long run because it would help town more then not regardless of how he flipped.

But damn. Kudos to Koichi. I want to wait this out a bit more.

How does it help town to lynch a mislynchable player who has proven themself to be mislynchable? I

do

understand the notion of lynching someone who could flip town because you believe their flip could be useful... that isn't my issue. I'd like to know why that post I quoted was so scummy to you.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Honestly, I think it's because all the years of playing Danganronpa has gotten to me. The thrills, the chills, the kills, all of that. When I woke up this morning something just felt like day 1 in this specific game is very important. So important, that I cannot compromise on my vote. Maybe down the line I'll change back to my usual playing style, but for now I'm going scumhunting.

And secondly, the post you quoted was mine. I'm not scummy to me, so I fail to see what you're asking.

I meant Kokichi's post. The one where you said he outlined why he was buddying Kaede. That isn't how I read it.

As for the rest... not much I can say to that, really. I sort of understand.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

So, hebi looks townish. Kokichi I don't want to lynch, because he's my scumbuddy and for no other possible reason if he flips scum.
If I'm wrong on any good townread it would be Miu, but I don't actually have a reason I'd want to lynch her. She just has less backing her up as a townread.
Cy being lynchproof today is a little annoying.

I doubt that Kokichi, if town, is being pushed by entirely town here, but I wouldn't know where the scum is. There are valid reasons to lynch him. Even cy's logic is valid.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Why not all four?

Hey, buddy. Haven't you heard. This is a 12 scum vs 1 Town game. Smile! You're on Candid Camera!!

Don't remind me of Kuroi's game where I was the town in that position. It was hilarious, in hindsight.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

surprise surprise

Lets prepare to hop on the new counterwagon

You have such good timing. Right when I'm about to say that perhaps I'm just wrong and should listen to you and Almost.

But, no, I'd rather not.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

And I almost died for you too! I bus drove myself with you on the night you got shot before I changed my mind and picked someone else.

Are you serious? I didn't know that.
<3
Good choice, evidently.

Wisdom: Damn. Seems I'm not as good at distancing as I thought.

cy, and the thread in general: The simplistic approach of trusting (or pretending to trust) players that townread him doesn't go with the image of a scum Kokichi who is managing to play like this. His read on me went sour when I began to want to lynch him, as well. As I'm typing this, I'm remembering the feeling I had that he saw he'd failed to pocket me with his townread and so switched tactics, but. Ugh.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Finally, if Kiyo's cleared then Crows is my main suspect and I will force lynch them tomorrow.

Who else is scum if Kokichi flips down, do you think?
And I'm not really seeing Crows scum here. Not that I've really had a chance to look at that hydra in detail.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

kiyo is hedging because he wants to both prevent the kokiyo lynch but also have some cred if he does get lynched

Kokiyo is our ship name.
In what world do I get any towncred for saying I might like to lynch scum Kokichi while not actually committing to a bus?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Come on, Kiyo. You know this is EXACTLY what I'd be saying in out hydra PT if we were playing together in this game.

Yes, I know. It's part of why you're town. I know you want the lynch, and if we

were

in our hydra here I'd probably be giving you control of the vote because I can't decide what I want to do with it.
I just don't want to be wrong after all this if he's town.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Wisdom, why would I have done the gambit if I was on L-1 as scum with Kiyo as my partner? At that point, he was the only one willing to vote me. Why put ourselves in that position? It's reads like this that make me think you might be scum. You have no progression this whole game.

This, actually. It makes no sense. If I was his partner he wouldn't need to worry about being hammered by me there, or to have even gotten there. hebi had only one vote less than Kokichi at that point.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Even Kiyo is calling out Kokichi's random faeces throwing

Read it again, I was agreeing with him.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Also, I'm laughing my ass off at this game. This is so funny being apart of this scrum debate.

As an aside, I'm also having a lot of fun in general.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

You had stated intent. If you didn't deliver youd be suspicious.

And I stated intent on him because..?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Miu, Cy, ___. I don't think Cy would quote that post from Almost as partners. Looks like Cy was "looking for a reason" to vote me again. So if Cy is mafia, I think that sadly makes Almost town. But that's reliant on that read alone.

Logical fallacy. You're basing a townread off of a scumread that you don't even know is correct. NAI, but still not correct.

Why even point that out? The post you're quoting says it's reliant on that read.

Though Almost is town regardless. I hope that's actually listened to, later.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

At this point I'm just repeating what Kokichi says at the same time.
I've decided I don't want to lynch him. If I go back on that, feel free to hang me. Haha.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I actually like the LLD wagon. Though she, like Shuichi, is away from the thread at present.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

If Crows is scum after all, it's with Kokichi.

What Almost said about Crows being on the counters reminded me of this.
I still think they're both town, but if Kokichi flips scum, Crows could be a buddy.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

This is an arguement I see come from town a lot more then I see it come from scum that one scum must be a POWERFUL SCUM LEADER that cannot die D1. So that ATLEAST makes me happy that you could be town but like, why can't it just be that we just townread Kokichi?

So this is the post that makes you finally consider Almost as something other than lock scum?
Well, it's something.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

THIS IS FAKED IMO
THIS ISN'T TOWN BTW

That post is, quite

literally

, nothing more than a statement of fact of how Almost and I work in hydra. Even if I'm scum it isn't faked.
You've been able to townread me in previous games, to the point I would get suspicious because you couldn't explain the townread. I don't understand any of your stances in this game besides Kokichi town, and even then it's been a consistent, unchanging townread that is frankly, a little hard to believe.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I just, don't see the reasoning for Crows and Kiyo to scumread each other here.

I'm not scumreading Crows. They could be scum, but I wouldn't lynch it.
Alisae's play this game is annoying, though.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Loke, I get that you don't want to get lynched as either alignment, ranted, but the Townie thing to do right now is look for the greater good even if it mean you could be drawing some heat your way when Koki does flip scum.

I'm not worried about him flipping scum, Almost. I'd be happy if he did. And I'm not worried about being mislynched. I don't really have the experience of being mislynched, anyway.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I, for one, find such a lively debate for our very survival both a pleasure to witness and a joy to participate in.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

wisdom why isn't the scumteam just kiyo / kokichi / lld

Thats what i said the scumteam is

The only player here I believe is scum is LLD.
Yes, I know saying this right now is probably pointless.

Almost: I don't know. I'm trying to separate a scum Kokichi that could be annoyed from the gamestate from the rest of the play that I'm reading as genuine. I was right that he was lying when I was about to hammer him, sure, but I buy his reasoning for it.

I have to go now, so I suppose I'll sleep on it.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Regarding your earlier question to me about scumreading you despite agreeing with your logic, cy: the difference between scum and town isn't that town is logical and scum are not. Quite the opposite, in some cases.
I'm exceedingly confident that Kaede is town. Even if I'm wrong about Kokichi.
Almost, I appreciate your compromise on LLD, but I'd sooner trust your judgement than my own right now. Maybe the fact that cy's posts also keep ringing town to me is a sign I need to fix my radar for this game. I'm townreading scum somewhere. Or I'm not, and scum are taking a backseat. A flip will probably help, but I can't in good conscience just flip someone for information.

Wish I wasn't confined to my phone today.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I'm assuming Maria ran a previous game where that happened, Almost?
He's been genuinely busy, so I don't know if Shuichi wanting us to wait is AI.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I do wish I had your confidence, if you're town.
Why do you appear to be townreading me here, might I ask?

I've been looking at the arguments, and I see them. One of the reasons I'm so sure on Kaede is because she's saying all of the same things (mostly, I don't agree with the rolespec) about why Kokichi looks town. I guess we could read players in similar ways and so both be fooled by the same thing?

Kokichi, is it just my hated role that made you go back to townreading me?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

....So I suppose it isn't as easy as cy being scum.
If Kokichi is scum, this game feels like it makes sense.

I do remember that when he asked me why I was townreading Miu, and I responded, he turned it into me "not explaining why I was townreading her". Not a quote, I don't care to sift through his ISO for it on my phone.

If he's town, he has a major bias towards townreading those who read him correctly and scumreading those who don't. With the exception of Wisdom, I guess.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Btw I know that last part was nothing of what you asked for, but I wanted to have a post that would clearly define a large part of why I'm scumreading him.

It's fine, I appreciate a condensed summary of why you're scumreading him.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

If Kokichi is scum, this game feels like it makes sense.

and yet you'll still find an excuse not to vote him

I thought you'd decided not to speak to scum? ;>

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

That is fair, he has been scumreading only people on him.

I don't think he's done it without actual arguments but.

He townread me earlier (that first readslist) for questioning him. Later, when I wanted to lynch him, he began to scumread me again.
And when I went back to vocally townreading him, I'm town once more, but this time for the hated claim.
I... don't know. As scum modus operandi go it's simplistic at best.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Y'all, fyi, if I'm not mistaken Kokichi is at L-2. If Korekiyo and A50 decide to hammer, he's dead. Anyone who has any final thoughts please make them now as the day phase may end soon.

You may as well consider him at L-1 if this is the case.
I don't intend to hammer before Shuichi returns, though, and I want to hear from Kokichi about his read on me.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Can you stop waffling and hedging

I'd sooner die.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Kokichi, is it just my hated role that made you go back to townreading me?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I scumread you for the hammer situation and that was it before that I townread you

I meant after the hammer.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Now who's rushing?
I was worried before about hebi being lynched in the absence of a Kokichi lynch, but out-of-the-moment there really isn't an issue with listening for Shuichi's input (and LLD who has also been away).
Not to mention I'm scumreading LLD most of the wagons and I'd like to have an opportunity to talk to her.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Kokichi.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Nah

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Are you caught up? I wanted to know where you stood on Kokichi, hebi, and myself. Particularly around the near-hammer.
If you've said in this thread why you're scumreading Miu, I don't remember. Forgive me, I'm on mobile.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

To be clear, I'm aware you're scumreading hebi.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I'm aware of that post, but it was made before a lot of the events of the day, and the ones I'm specifically interested in.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

What exactly is "snowing"? I have a sense but I don't recognize the term, really.

Pedit: <3

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Ah, thank you.
Unfortunately, I have to get going. I should be back tonight.

I'm trying to get an idea of how you think (this has helped only slightly), because I seem to be missing out on it. I don't know if that's purposeful, or just a side effect of being in hoods.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

^^^^Same here. Exam.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

i pity the people who dont see how blatantly obvious scum kokichi is

I'd respond to this but I know the answer would be "that's because you're scum with him", and if I wanted to have a repetitive if entertaining conversation I would look elsewhere.
I'm busy so I'll be ducking my head over here for a bit. Looking forward to Shuichi.

Kokichi: If you're town, don't self. It doesn't do any good.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

And if he really did it?
I've had the experience of voting someone I thought was scum to L-1 only for them to lynch themselves there and flip town. It was obscenely frustrating, and I didn't expect it. If he's lying about selfing, then good. If he's not, then the situation is not ideal. Granted, I don't really buy that he would, but still. I've decided to wait for Shuichi and I intend to.

As for townreading me, I'm not sure what it is you want me to "give you", Almost. I'm not playing in order to look town, it's just something that seems to happen with the right players reading me. Evidently it hasn't happened that way this game yet, but it is what it is. I'll hit my stride eventually. In the meantime I hope to actually contribute something to the game rather than being satisfied with floating along, which as I'm writing this I probably haven't done. And if Kokichi flips scum then it's even more of a disappointment that I was swayed from hammering.

Maybe waiting is pointless. I don't see myself voting Miu. As much as I can't articulate it and don't feel like trying right now as I'm not sure it would matter, she looks town.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Just vote for him lol. I call his bluff.

Then again, the player in question that selfed and flipped town wasn't exactly threatening to self beforehand. That's why I was surprised. Not that it has any relevance to this game whatsoever, I just don't want to be a part of that situation again.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Will Kiyo vote Kokichi (and by extension hammer because it seems Crows just wants to lynch him here despite the townread, and if that doesn't make me hesitate

again

I don't know what will) part 2: Will he do it

this

time?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I'm aware they said that. The fact that 'i want this day to end' comes when I'm being asked and/or considering to vote Kokichi tells me they'd be happy if I did vote there.
I guess it could be frustrated/tired town, but the timing bothers me.

Anyway.
VOTE: Kokichi Oma
There you are. If he's scum then what I just said doesn't matter, so I suppose I might as well not waste any more time on it.

Pedit: I know he did. I'm not happy about it either, but at this point I'd rather just trust the players I'm actually townreading (and I feel rather guilty that Almost ended up joining me on LLD despite my lack of help with Kokichi).

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I wonder who among us envisioned this outcome?

And so the trial begins anew.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Two pieces of shit flushed down the toilet, eleven to go

Is it wise to speak ill of the dead so quickly?
They might bear a grudge.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

TRUTH BULLET

Blackened Day Chat has been added to the Truth Bullets section of your Monopad.

For Kaede.

Pedit: I'm disappointed with my nickname.
VOTE: Izuru Kamukura
Why am I with LLD?

Peditx2: Interesting.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I am claiming. I'm Maki, and I had an Unblockable Vig that I shot A50 with.

And he didn't die

So let's go lynches there yea?

Why did you shoot Almost?
More importantly I'd ask why he didn't die, but that should be a question he answers upon reading this anyway.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Izuru
Always Izuru
Always Always Always

Do you have some sort of godread on this slot?

I'm not seeing it.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Psure we crayon'ed Korekiyo red on every vote count scenario we had
ye

almost + kiyo + hebichan lets pack it up boys

Why does being bulletproof make someone scum here?

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Above should be to LLD as well.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

Well you're scum so...

I didn't peg you for the "I don't talk to my scumreads" type. Help me out if I'm wrong. Pretend I'm town for the duration of the conversation if you have to.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I was just about to post that question myself. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't explain why he didn't die nor why Kaede did.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I'm Tenko Chabashira. and I'm a BG, and I was on Kaede last night, yet she still got shot.

Why did you target Kaede?
I'm not sure why a Strongman scum would make this play. You flipping town here immediately implicates LLD for Kaede dying despite your BG.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

I don't know how I missed Almost claiming BP as well. But I'm going to bed soon, and phone.
I did get the impression you could be a protective, Almost, but it wasn't because of that post. Not entirely sure what it means. It was your play in general, you didn't seem interested in being nightkilled or pretending to be interested. I'm sort of happy I got it right.

[Korekiyo Shinguji]

can somebody explain why it's not this scenario

scum rbd almost
almost bg failed
lld vig hit almost's bp

I think it was this as well if LLD is town. I don't think Almost is scum.
Not to mention that he looked like a protective to me, though I admittedly might have a better sense of it. I don't think scum BP Almost reacts this way either.