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VOTE: Assemblerotws

Longest username

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tut tut

Radical Rat
Not_Mafia
Yume
Creature
Porkens

Such a long list of inferior players this game.

We simply cannot abide this.

Vote: Radical Rat

Are you a superior player?

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post restriction?

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What's your flavor that causes you to doot?

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know what-
VOTE: twoinamillion

reasons?

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Looking for more content from lurkers tbh.

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Pork, Pretent, Klazam, and Not Mafia are probably town. Scum are probably in the lurkers at this point. But it's way to early to tell and not much serious discussion yet.

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Pork and I won as town together in a recent game, so I do remember that. Would like to hope that he's town for our sake:).

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Pretent is amusing, if nothing else.

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We aren't in the habit of proposing vigs shoot our townreads, so....let's go with 'no'.

Pork and I won as town together in a recent game, so I do remember that. Would like to hope that he's town for our sake:).

Awww thanks 2. Sorry I misread you so bad in board games. I was all wrong that game.

Pretty, if you thought I was scum you would tell them to lynch me.

It’s ok, you can townread me from what I’ve posted already. It’s pretty obvious.

I don't hold grudges. The important thing is we won, and convincingly.

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I've never been one to think that playstyle is indicative of alignment. A good player changes all the time, weather town or scum.

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VOTE: Wheme

For making accusations without being able to back them up.

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Seems pretty good to me. Making a soft accusation and hoping that people won't press is something scum would do.
What would be a good vote?

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I fail to see how a sheep is going to help town win. I get your cheeky I am awesome and sheep me thing, but in reality we need the team to work together to win, not just one person telling everyone else what to do.

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It was okay for you to sheep but not for him. Double standard much?

That being said I would like some content.

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Because he is sheeping him of course.

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Because he is sheeping him of course.

Incorrect!

Welcome to Mafia School, please try again - we allow repeatedly taking the examinations here until you receive a passing grade!

Mutiny!:)

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Better than anyone else's reasons tbh.

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So pork supposedly is different and it's a big deal. Pretent is different and it's not a big deal?

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Wheme noted pork was different(but wouldn't say how). Pretent not signing their hydra posts is an obviously different behavior.

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Yeah, someone made a decision not to do it at some point, I'm sure.

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I'm not saying you are scummy, my point is that posting different isn't necessarily alignment indicative.

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I thought someone said you signed your posts your first game.

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Okay my bad then.

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Catching scum is never boring.

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My scum picks would be Wheme, Not Mafia, and Yume.

But I would be happy for Wheme to be hammered.

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What does voting socialism do again?

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VOTE: socialism

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If we can't lynch Wheme I would lynch Yume

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acid then.

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I'm trying to encourage activity and I'm scum for it?

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Lurkers are low hanging fruit for a reason, it's what scum do.

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Surely there must be some "unusual" roles in scum as well as town.

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Some seem to be more unusual than others.

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acid

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VOTE: ashoka

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Just about every post of yours has been fluff and nothing of substance.

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My wagon is very bad. Proceed with caution.

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Not true at all. I am obviously trying to figure out who is scum.

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Now you are just trolling.

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I don't think I've played with him. Is this town or scummy?

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I would be okay with notmafia or wheme

VOTE: wheme

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I would be okay with notmafia or wheme

VOTE: wheme

Both of these are OMGUS haha

No, it's not OMGUS when you have good reasons.

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whymafia and notmafia in the same game? this will be confusing.

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this seems more like a threat than a deal.

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Threat
noun
1. a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done:

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RADICAL RAT LETS MAKE A DEAL

I'm listening

We will unban you

and vote communism every day in exchange for you letting us choose every other lynch (we get odd days) while we are still alive. That was not a 1-shot ability right? Because this is void if you're a 1-shot wonder loser

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The threat is that if he doesn't agree to your deal you won't unban him.

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I would be pretty cautious, there is no garauntee that pretent is town.

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I honestly don't think two players "running" a game is the best way towards a town victory.

a) more likelyhood of a poor decision with less feedback.

b) alignment of parties is unknown.

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Sarcasm?

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What's the difference between socialism and communism gamewise? Do we have other options?

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okay, I thought they were different systems. They are you know, different types of governments and all.

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Uh. Communism is socialism

Not really game relevant, but the quick and easy difference is that under capitalism, the means of production are owned by the super wealthy folks who use the labor of the working class to further amass their wealth. Under socialism, the means of production are owned by the working class themselves, who work on their own terms. Under communism, the concept of ownership no longer exists (though in practice this just means the government owns everything instead of individuals), and goods and services are allocated based on need and availability. Ideally.

European countries like Norway, Sweden, Iceland, etc. are socialist but not communist.

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Yume is town?

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This doesn't seem like a scum gambit to me, seems a little to complicated for that. I guess I am just skeptical by nature. I'm willing to go along with it for now.

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I'm the 4th most active poster. I think if I'm trying to "avoid the spotlight" I'm doing a pretty bad job of it.

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Well I started off initially thinking it's a bad idea and I listened to the comments about it and it changed my mind a little. I'm not totally convinced. I don't think listening to your fellow team members is a scum trait.

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Hurt: Wheme

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Radical what do you think of said post?

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There is a 2:3 chance he kills town if he kills randomly. If he is scum, he will probably kill town. If he is town, he will probably kill town, unless you think he has enough information to reasonably shoot scum. I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish with your bloodthirst here.

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Dumb atm but moving towards scum.

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Sure, if it's a good replacement.

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Wheme, NotMafia, and Kop

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I realised that Yume may be absent rather than scummy so I moved Kop up and Yume down.

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Both would be helpful.Bad players don't help town win games.

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I'd say I am obvtown. I am engaged, scumhunting, and townhunting. I am trying to be rational wheras others(pork, notmafia, etc.) are clearly either being irrational or lurking.

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Hey there UCV.

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I don't know yume's playing style/skill level. Wheme doesn't seem a bad player, I just think he made a scummy tactical error.

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wordtwisting much? Clearly not what he meant.

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I'd rather lynch not mafia.

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Because you need good players to win games?

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I would say porkens is scum here

WHY ME?!

Your playing different

Different from?

Porkens seems like their usual porky self to me so far.

Idk maybe I'm wrong

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Because you were acting like you were expecting not to be questioned and backed down.

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Because you were acting like you were expecting not to be questioned and backed down.

like where?

I posted the entire conversation.

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I don't see too many boring roles in this game tbh.

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Hey there fellow munchkin.

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Hmmm...interesting role. Not that I want to lynch you.

I take it there will be no dead thread then.

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Let's just lynch wheme.

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We have only a few days left

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Well wheme is the obvious choice.

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You realise if we lynch TownPorkens we lose his vote, right?

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Although if we are going with Socialism I guess that doesn't matter that much.

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I feel your pain but it would basically give town a free set of night actions.

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Town would not lose anything by losing your vote because Rat is making the decisions anyway, and we would still have your input. If you are town, the process for socialism is still the same, you didn't have a "vote" anyways. If you are scum(which I doubt), we get scum. So either way its a win for the town.

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I can't imagine there being a lynch less detrimental to the town than porkens, other than scum.

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Yeah if Ashoka flips town scum are in

Porkens, TIAM, WhyMafia

That makes no sense.

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VOTE: Socialism

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BTW pretent has moved from town to in between on my read list. Didn't like the way they pushed Ashoka and acting like the town leader.

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You think UCV is scum because of something he said in a non-mafia thread?

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You think UCV is scum because of something he said in a non-mafia thread?

It was a statement about his meta that I find relevant to this game.

This game as opposed to other games or games in general?

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NotMafia always thinks im scum

How many times has this happened?

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I can't stop looking at Not Mafia's nipples...

anyways, I am still in favor of killing Wheme.

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How is wheme still alive?

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Well idk what I agree or disagree with

The point is town can't vote and voting is our greatest asset

Later on we can't really do VCA's or anything since there's nothing to go off of

This is incorrect actually. sure, we lose VCA, but theres things we can analyze, like stances on the proposed execution targets, feelings toward the glorious Red Revolution, or scumhunting in general. If you thought about it a bit, it'd be obvious. And who supported/ who went against socialism will be interesting to look at, once someone in Hydra or Rat dies and shows alignment. On my part, i'm willing to risk it, because i really liked what i've seen from these two, and their discussions make sense to me. Hydra could participate more today i guess, but eh.

Feels like faked town outrage from you here, because youre picking the one thing that we lose from socialism, and ignoring all the other things we can analyze.

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I've been participating. Wheme and Pretent are scummy. I'm in favor of socialism.

Wait a minute. TIAM hasnt been participating today. I just remembered i had a scumread on TIAM.

IGMEOU: TIAM

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I loved that I have more opinions than 90% of the players but I am accused of not being active.

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I don't even know where to start with WM. It's complete fabrication. He'd rather throw baseless accusations than actually have a conversation.

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Did I miss anything?

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What's your flavor that causes you to doot?

Already attempting to fish for no good reason.

asking for flavor is not fishing. People do make up post restrictions.

Looking for more content from lurkers tbh.

This feels like LAMIST and doesn't do anything. Considering he hasn't done anything either ....

What content have you provided?

Pork, Pretent, Klazam, and Not Mafia are probably town. Scum are probably in the lurkers at this point. But it's way to early to tell and not much serious discussion yet.

Note that he never responded to NM. Additionally, this was his first opinionated post. However, he basically removed accountability with the second sentence

So pork supposedly is different and it's a big deal. Pretent is different and it's not a big deal?

No a question, just an opinion. Not a lot to be accountable for on day 1.

This is completely garbago and ruined the small towniness that I got from his Wheme posts prior to this

Catching scum is never boring.

Still feels like LAMIST

I'm trying to encourage activity and I'm scum for it?

This is completely NAI and he's using it to justify his reads. Like by pushing inactive people, you're not gonna get a fightback. It's not even that they've been scummy, it's literally a policy lynch that he's compromising on when Wheme was a perfectly viable wagon

Not true at all. I am obviously trying to figure out who is scum.

He isn't working to get his scum reads lynched. He hard scum read Wheme ... but what does he do? Decide to say that he's fine with compromising on a slot with almost no posts????? He hasn't interacted with his scum reads to even try to get their stance. He's giving reasons that can hardly be argued with.

I have interacted with my scum. We've had a pretty lengthy discussion on socialism.

I honestly don't think two players "running" a game is the best way towards a town victory.

a) more likelyhood of a poor decision with less feedback.

b) alignment of parties is unknown.

This is funny considering board game mafia

and

green-haired U-Pick

And then basically he compromises a bunch more times. He has absolutely no conviction in his reads

Again, it's day 2. If anything, lack of conviction is a town tell and not a scumtell. Scum know who the scum are.

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I am hardly not explaining my reads.

My read on Wheme comes from his bad play early on in the game and his anti-socialism.

My scumread on Pretent comes from his attempts at townleading and mislynch. There has to be accountability somewhere.

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My scumread on WhyMafia comes on his inability to listen to reason and constantly pushing theories without any basis behind them.

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I'll make a detailed response in around 10 hours
For now, I'd like to something that seems contradictory to me
Why do you scum read me and not klazam?

Klazam seems like his trying to process more different things instead of tunneling.

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Ummmm...how do you catch scum if you don't say what is scummy?

UCV is now at the top of my scum list.

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I thought it was a read, not a night action.

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Go for it

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VOTE: whymafia

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I trust you have a reason and I want to catch scum.

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I don't think you should say why as that could effect why's answer.

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Scum will change their answer if they know what's expected.

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doot.

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Is posting at night really a scum power?

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Mafia Game Posting Frequency Discussion

I would think if this was your thread there would be powers related to day and not just night, correct?

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Yeah, creature > pretent.

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I'm not scum reading McMenno but I'm not exactly town reading him either.

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Between leading the Ashoka kill and pushing creature I am comfortable with lynching Pretent or maybe WhyMafia depending on his answer.

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Why McMenno?

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Pretent or WhyMafia seems lika better pick tbh.

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Klazam demanded a claim and he hasn't answered yet.

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No fuck off we aren't retiring socialism Creature 100000% needs death

And I refuse any blame on Ashoka "let me claim an ability I should have used on page 1" moronscumfuck

I think I'm tired of Pretentiousdra town leader tyvm.

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There's literally no reason for 2IAM and Klazam to act the way they did considering I am a tracker who tracked 2IAM who went nowhere

He kinda did

Meaning what?

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Hmmm...let's see.

Player "forgets" they have a power role. What's the likelyhood they actually forgot or that they're scum?

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UNVOTE:

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I'm not sure I want Klazam to fullclaim. Why not just ask Klazam how confident he is?

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I am indeed an odd night power role, but I'd rather not claim as I haven't gotten any fruitful results yet.

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VOTE: assemble

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I find it hard to believe there is a commuter in a role madness game.

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Seems too simple

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VOTE: whymafia

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I am Clue, odd night cop with one shiot secret passageway to the mafia forum, which is one shot. If I use my secret passageway, I lose my cop ability. I used my cop ability to target pretent n1 and got no result. I used my secret passageway n3 and got the sentence. "LOL! This is a fucking joke!".

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Doot

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Has he claimed?

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Good game, thanks for hosting vonflare, would love to do another game with you.

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This was my first game as mafia, greatly enjoyed the challenge.

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Luckily I never had to claim.