Mini 1979: Greatest Idea Mafia (Game Over)

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RQS:

1. Whats a good Story you have read/watched/played?
2. If you had a superpower, what would it be?
3. What is your favorite mafia PR and why?

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1. Whats a good Story you have read/watched/played?

Story about lynching Schism for lulzRQS.

VOTE: Schism

Town.

Why do this instead of look at the discards?

Whats the point?

Diamond Sentinel discards Town Supersaint
Espeonage discards Mafia Cupid
Schism discards Town Tourist
Wisdom discards Vanilla Townie
TheGoldenParadox discards Town Lover
thenewearth discards Town Cop Lover
Assemblerotws discards Town Black Goo
Kokichi Oma discards Werewolf Gravedigger
HolySpiritTurtle discards Town Seer
Hopkirk discards Werewolf Miller
wilky discards Town Mason
Lucky2u discards Mafia Alpha Goon
northsidegal discards Town Miller

Supersaint and Mason are the only questionable ones, and both of them have fair reasons to be discarded. Mason's aren't guarenteed and maybe Wilky perfers a town night action than being a potential named towny. Supersaint is gimmicky and better for mafia unless youre a player who lives late, and I assume Diamond is not one of those people.

Wolves, people are too worried about being the only one to pick them IMO. Could be wrong there, but thats my assumption.
Lovers are a hinderance
Everything else is Garbage or Wifom bait. I won't have it.

Oh, nevermind. Goldy did.

Anyways, Espeonage, newearth, and wilky have scummy AF discards.

Disagree on all three.

VOTE: wisdom

NSG, you town? My other townread is voting me so I cant sheep it at the moment.

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vote holy spirit turtle

And I want to know why you discarded one of the strongest town power roles.

Seer?

SEER!?!?

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Espeonage, I can assume you perfer a town role, no?

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And Psychiatrist is optimal vs a Mafia Cupid?

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... Am I missing something?

Psyche turns sk into VT. Its kind of a bland role, not sure how it gives him the best chance to win, assuming hes town. Also, does psyche confirm sk? Could you be psyche with no sk?

Espe's comment about optimization over alignment makes no sense to me

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Uh
VT is still TOWN, ya know.
Increasing number of town member is huge.

Thats not the question. The question is why is Psyche a better pick for a pr instead of Mafia Cupid if Espe doesnt have an alignment preference.

If you argue hes a Scum Psyche, why would he out that when there can only be 1 or maybe 2 other members aligned with him. Me thinks thats not optimal.

@NSG:

do you normally naked vote in RVS? Curious on if you had a reason to vote wisdom.

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Setup B is easily the most annoying setup for me personally. Literally every card I got was vanilla or worse. Why couldn't I have been a Serial Killer Mason or a Town Roleblocker?

Potential for scum here. Weak though.

Agree, but more for Kokichi than Assemble.

...The Turtle wagon is gross. Seer is a dumb role. Im not interested.

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my vote isn't on hst because he discarded seer.

And its an ok reason. Better than Espe.

Im still not sold.

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Happy 2018, mafiascum.

But seer is useless here isn't it? Low chance if werewolf guilty.

Why would that be? You don't know how many peoe went with a werewolf role unless you're wolf...

I have no idea why people want an alignment cop so bad. Potential Multiball/SK setups like this makes them borderline weak. I said it before, I'll say it again, I doubt there are >1 Wolves in this game. My previous comment on it can be found in my iso.

How does town black goo work?

Its a PGO that turns you into cult instead of killing you. Had that in my A Setup I believe.

Schism sounded off on a first look, but seems okay now.

Whats scummy about RQS?

VOTE: TheGoldenParadox

How should I put it?
His posts in general sounds kinda too... "fit to please?"

Youre town but your votes suck.

VOTE: wisdom

Sorry just noticed wisdom is in the game. Probably scum because he is always scum.

This is OMGUS. Weak lucky. Youre better than this.

Fool isn't an option in GI right?

In their defense, we did sorta skip that whole RVS thing.

You're welcome.

No need to defend me Diamond, in fact it's kind of weird that you did...

I have no intention of taking day 1 seriously. By all means continue though.

@Lucky:

Why? This is a serious question that I need you to answer.

Man, I gotta say, I love the Kokichi alt. Better than Nagito for sure (Togami > All).

I claim permanent King

wut?

No need to defend me Diamond, in fact it's kind of weird that you did...

I have no intention of taking day 1 seriously. By all means continue though.

This is a scum post.

Depends on Lucky's Answer.

People have also Shit all over hst, which ruined the wagon.

Because hes town and you were voting him because he discarded a named townie.

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HST, stop being stupid. Give me real scumreads, your votes are lol worthy.

Btw, Scum is in Kokichi, Lucky, Maybe Wilky, and a special someone who won't be named yet. Id rather not let his/her Identity be revealed yet until I get a case set up.

VOTE: Kokichi

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This is OMGUS. Weak lucky. Youre better than this.

Fool isn't an option in GI right?

lol wut mate?

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Paradox:

Because Im not a fan of the wagon on HST.

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PEdit: Explain, Schism. Why do you TR HST, or what specifically are you not a fan of HST's wagon for? Just curiosity here.

Because other than NSG, the others think hes scum for dropping seer, which I think isnt a good reason to vote him. I dont find his posting scummy at the moment and his vote on me in RVS was funny, in a good way.

wisdom voting me was not, so omgus does not apply. we are also not a fan of HST wagon. get to it town, lynch some actual scum plzzzz

Bullshit. Wisdom's last post before you voted him said he thought you were scum. thats weak OMGUS.

You haven't answered my question yet.

skism, you new? your an alt? hydra?

What?

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VOTE: Lucky

L-1

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yhea... I'm not asnwering that. Deal with it.

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Incorrect. I did not vote him because he dropped seer. I mean, I dropped seer myself in Setup C. I voted him because I found his posting scummy.

I stand corrected when I read Espe's reasoning.

I still think there are better options at the moment, as I said to NSG.

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supersaint soft?

Sounds like a job for the Ultimate Supreme Leader

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VOTE: Lucky

Happy New Year!

I love you.

Spoiler:

Im on Ch. 4 and youre fucking evil.

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I'll wagon hop for now. Lucky and HST both seem like low-hanging fruit, but at this point, I'm gonna go for that rather than a long shot.
VOTE: Lucky

But there is (was) 10 days left

@Schism: I don’t think RQS is scummy. Why do you think that’s what I thought was a bit off initially?

That wagon wasn't good imo.

Yea I lolhammer all the time as town. If someone with more time on their hands then me did the research you'd probably find the ratio of town to scum lolhammers is skewed heavily to town.

I definitely agree on Diamond, not so sure on the first.
What about Schism/TNE?

So either

A: Hop changed his mind in the evening and shot diamond.
B: Hop didnt shoot or was blocked.

I think its B. Idk how Diamond would be a better shot than Kokichi/Me/HST.

VOTE: Kokichi is a good start.

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Wilky was lyncher, so lets assume for now its 10:1:1:1 or 9:2:1:1.

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VOTE: Kokichi is a good start.

You wanted me to hammer, and now that I did you vote me? Sounds scum.

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I was betting on lucky being Lynchproof or vengeful.

His play was not optimal for a town BP.

A: Hop

changed his mind

in the evening and shot diamond.

?

Hop clearly said he had DS as scum, so what does this "changed in mind" mean?

Youre right, i quoted the wrong thing.

So 9:3:1 or 9:2:1:1 sounds right.

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Why not? I thought you were scummy before that hammer.

Theres someone else that I think is somewhat suspicious but right now i dont feel like outting that at this point.

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only two kills is a surprise. so is diamond dying.

@mod does flavor have any relevance to the kills / any bearing on the game?

... Is that all you got?

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Ok, I had to check Sakura’s ruleslist to check, but theres no confirmation of whether or not flavor is indicative.

However, we can assume that DS was vig SHOT, and *faction* did something to Kirk.

“Killed” i think is neutral, as in, not flavor related.

Flavor kills in this setup may be up to the mod i think.

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Heh.

Assemble is worth a lynch. His sig does warrant a look however, espy.

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so i reread the thread and i think thenewearth is probably scum. awkward responses to hopkirk, no scumhunting done and hopped on the lucky wagon. she's probably the reason hopkirk is dead right now.

How do you feel about HST?

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Schism is l9oking suspect

Any 0ther reads?

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so i reread the thread and i think thenewearth is probably scum. awkward responses to hopkirk, no scumhunting done and hopped on the lucky wagon. she's probably the reason hopkirk is dead right now.

How do you feel about HST?

feelings have largely not changed since the early wagon, but the fact that people hopped on the lucky wagon instead of the hst one is cause for further suspicion.

And you dont think Lucky deserved any of the blame that he was scummy?

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Lucky was BP. His play as that role was suboptimal.

So I cant read Paradox’s townreads with mafsilver theme. Lol. Townreading Kokichi and scumreading espe screams anti-town

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@Paradox:

1. i already said why I townread HST yesterday.
2. What scumhunting or anything of value has kokichi done?
3. I can withold anything I want. All in due time.

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Finally, does anything think kokichi’s reaction to my vote was reasonable? Seems overreacting

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VOTE: Schism

So I guess no other reads?

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If youre town, you have alot to learn.

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You know what, fuck it, lets start some discussion.

I have a dayvig shot. Im thinking of shooting X, but Paradox and Kokichi are bugging me.

Im nervous, i lynched lucky yesterday, theres a possibility this could force kingmaker for town, and Idk what to do.

X's posting looks off to me, but i cant figure out why.
Paradox is Paradox.
Kokichi is

antihero?

still sus from his early posts and is using a hammer to claim town.

I could also shoot Assemble but hes worthless policy at this point.

I dont know what to do, so the question is:

if you had a gun, who would you shoot?

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For the record, x's identity is left unknown because i dont want people to spend time bitching about someone who is a decent townread.

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Schism I feel is the most dangerous of the three, and the best one to start a wagon on.
I'll try to do a vote.
VOTE: Schism
Let's hope this works.

What

But you just called me the scummiest

Actually espe was

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Wait wtf

In MafBlack theme, you can see Espe's color was darker red then yours/mine.

But in mafsilver, yours is darker.

HUH!?!?

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Assemble is a good lynch.

Id rather shoot someone worth my time.

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Wisdom.

What is the reason of your vote?

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Both are town cases tho.

Im trying to make discussion.

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Assemble.... i cant bring up much, but his posting always seems like this. Its NAI.
Paradox looks familiar to my last game with him.

I’d rather shoot someone that’s harder to Lynch, and just Lynch assemble.

Kokichi and nsg bother me tbh. I still stand with hst town and you town too

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Ok experiment for everyone.

You get given the following role cards:
Vanilla Scum Faction
Town low power PR
Town Negative utility

What do you pick?

And one more.
Scum PR
Scum negative utility
Town anything not op

what do you pick?

Honesty will go well here.

Low power pr and scum pr respectively

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Shoot: Kokichi

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VC resets, btw.

VOTE: North for now. Idk. Probably get paradox if kokichi flips antitown

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VT? Really?

I think I see the same thing wisdom and TNE do.

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Yo schiz, what was your card you used for alignment?

1-shot gov

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Thought process on not throwing the Gov to get yourself townread for throwing away a strong scum power?

Dayvig is my favorite role.

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No I mean why not throw gov and not tourist?

Because... idk. Didnt think about it since I got all town anyways.

VOTE: Assemble

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Lol.

So much content.

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Her posting is different than that game.

Shes kinda... sloppy tbh.

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Can my townreads vote someone please?