Mini 1990: Terror in the City (Game Over)

[Momrangal]

I'm here. Hello. Ready to make a come back. Maybe.

[Momrangal]

So professor is the only one in this head that I'm familiar with. Good to know!

I'm feeling lukewarm on this current wagon

VOTE: brassherald

Lets go here instead. It reaps of opportunism

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Oh ewww

I need to read the last page better, either way I like sitting here. Its odd, he feels like he's backtracking. I like that he took his vote off, but he says "its to early to pressure him" and he is already avoiding questioning this early in the game. He feels like he's trying to stay on the down low and stay out of the spot light, but for what reason?

[Momrangal]

I've been at my moms house since Thursday because of my birthday!

But either way, I'll be waiting and expecting something good

[Momrangal]

Fuzzys opening is odd and a little awkward but that doesn't necessarily mean scum and beyond that, it feels like he has expectation on your knowledge of his play but in reality, I don't think is as great as he thinks.

I think he's on the fence about you, Nero and has made an (albiet awkward attempt) to get closer to you which is something I find rather intriguing and admittedly, he's pretty funny.

[Momrangal]

I missed you asking him about his vote and I like that he's unvoted but I don't like the reason he's given after, very passive and he's just... Behaving... I don't like that.

@fuzzy you don't have reads? What do you think of me, Nero? Are you just talking to us just to seem like you are doing something active?

[Momrangal]

Fuzzys opening is odd and a little awkward but that doesn't necessarily mean scum and beyond that, it feels like he has expectation on your knowledge of his play but in reality, I don't think is as great as he thinks.

I didn't even vote him for his opening and it's not why I think he's scum. My vote on him was a naked and reasonless vote and he took it as a serious vote. I feel like him feeling so threatened is scum. Also, as mentioned, he's not being a lurksack. I think its entirely possible that he rolls scum and decides to not lurk.

He's awkward. From what I remember he is a troll and that's your weakness and, he was also a little... VI when I was last here. Not sure how much that's changed but he's still doing a little bit more to put some action in the game and I like that.

I don't think it's so out of the question to ask reasons for a rvs vote and he wouldn't be the first to do it. I just think he's pushing on all the wrong buttons for you.

Besides he's funny and the game can use humor.

Where else do you want to venture?

[Momrangal]

Oh, and fuzzy to be completely fair you do seem pretty serious about him voting you

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TNE is pushing classic TNE things and hasn't done much since then, he's null

[Momrangal]

If Brass is scum, I think he was aware that fuzzy was an easy target and garnering vote but didn't know how many votes he was had and he had unvoted because he was challenged.

Also, I played under another name about two years ago.

And TNE. He always pushes after policies, his push against fuzzy isn't out of character in any way shape or form.

[Momrangal]

My head hurts.

What about TNES first two posts, its pretty clear what policy he's lynching?

[Momrangal]

Fuzzys opening is odd and a little awkward but that doesn't necessarily mean scum and beyond that, it feels like he has expectation on your knowledge of his play but in reality, I don't think is as great as he thinks.

I think he's on the fence about you, Nero and has made an (albiet awkward attempt) to get closer to you which is something I find rather intriguing and admittedly, he's pretty funny.

He was funny and i wanna keep funny people in the game when they don't read either way :<

Either way, I read him as leaning town because of the above

Also, with how quickly his wagon was forming, it could have been capitalized by scum before the day got much headway

And I am looking much towards assembles posts and now I may be reconsidering TNE as well

[Momrangal]

Brass Herald who voted fuzzy because he thought me might be scum then unvoted and did some awkward shit then replaced out

/assemble who hasn't posted since replacing in TWO DAYS AGO

[Momrangal]

TNE may be another possible but eh.

I've been trying to go other avenues to, but he still Really needs to post

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And TNE. He always pushes after policies, his push against fuzzy isn't out of character in any way shape or form.

Also adamantly

He hasn't done anything to worry me but really is the only other one on the wagon that is could be scum

[Momrangal]

Dunn, do you have history with Koichi?
Why did you expect him specifically to call you out vs someone else?
Also 3 days that's it? Srsly? Come on

[Momrangal]

Last part was to assemble

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Mmm

So Dunn/Koichi is TvT, pretty much sold on that with answers from the both of them

Mmm.....

Definitely agree on Yurkin, but all the lurkers need to step up.

I don't think he's any more or less scummy than assemblethebrass slot

[Momrangal]

In contrast, its been to long since I laughed because of a mafia game.

Though I do hope for something srs soon

[Momrangal]

Maybe because Koichi continued to claim a scumclaim on Dunn?

Part of it. The rest of this post has fair value, but I missed Koichi trying to get Dunn to join her, the whole interaction between the two seems..m genuine. I can see how she came to the conclusion she did and it didn't really seem like one scum would have

[Momrangal]

Nero
Koichi
Dunn

TFE
TPG

Hopkirk
Chick
Fits

Kop
TNE/A50
Yurkin

Assemble


I need to get this further refined

[Momrangal]

TNE and Yurkin are pretty much the same as far how scummy they are. That third bracket is just a null-scum bracket. Neither is actually scummier than the other in my eyes.

[Momrangal]

Also, i feel like holding the hammer now that I see the VC.

the only issue I have is that its led by assemble

[Momrangal]

TNE

TNE isn't even in this game anymore....

Well yah but... I was answering a question

[Momrangal]

@Kop+Mom- what do you think of each other and why?

Who?

Not anywhere on my mind regarding this game, had to even iso him to remember his contributions and I can't make heads or tails with him


Also, we have three days and you jump off a big wagon to join me when I already state intent to hammer?

I mean I would love to get assemble lynched overall but neither him or brass us giving me anything to pull a case out of outside what I already stated may be like 2-3 times

[Momrangal]

Thoufh, now that I think about it am liking A50s current posts after his trollzy entrance and I do like that he is going into interactions and stuff and more or less being serious over Yurkin who I can't even remember shit about and is just straight up lurking so I guess there's that

[Momrangal]

Thought you were yurkin, my bad.

Also Dunn drawing attention to him and expecting someone to read him as scum for doing a certain behavior certainly isn't something likely for actual scrum to do

[Momrangal]

Nah I'll explain

I don't think you've done much to be notable at this point, I think I would have expected you to notice me hard lurking but maybe I'm wrong

[Momrangal]

Started from that, mostly. Then the continued reaction and conversation he had with Koichi

[Momrangal]

That's more or less a call out to someone he's familiar with and asking them why they aren't putting pressure on them for showing a type of behavior that he thinks Kochi should think is scummy and that's something most scum is to selfconcious to bring attention to

unprompted

in fact, I expect scum to bring attention to his town like attitudes, not scum like ones

[Momrangal]

VOTE: Yurkin

[Momrangal]

I thought I hammered?

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Yeah that's the hammer

[Momrangal]

Aside the fact that I already placed intent?

I would much rather lynch some one I think is scum but I'm not so delusional to think I am able to get that when I have nothing to work with.

As far as my read on Dunn goes I already said why I have it and just because you posted against it doesn't mean I need to agree with it.

You're entitled to your opinions, but just because you think its shallow doesn't mean I need to think the same

[Momrangal]

I also agree that A50 is a good replacement and I like the fact that he is active but so far I'm more hoping he's town than giving him the same level of a town read that I have for Nero and crew

[Momrangal]

Kop isn't a town read so I am not gonna stop that wagon from happening.

But A50 has assemble as possible scum, I think Hop did too, and idk I think Fitz may join there too

So that's 3, 4 if you join?

I would be 5.

Hop made a decent case though so I wouldn't be adverse and I don't think chick would count as a lurksack just doing stupid unvoting stuff this close to dl

[Momrangal]

Fitz is active and thus lower on the lynch list. I have him as a null-town as it stands, also so I'm pretty sure a Fitz lynch will hurt more than a nl especially as he isn't the most inactive one here.

Pedit: yeah and he's no better or worse than what I'm settling on now. Like I said earlier I don't remember anything about him

[Momrangal]

Oh that was to A50

[Momrangal]

This is like, my first game in three years Nero. I don't know, or really care to know much about the newer players and all i know is he replaced in a slot I read as scum and hasn't done shit since

[Momrangal]

Well aside from making like one post that says "hey here and active lets do stuff!"

[Momrangal]

It was about his supposed scum read and the way it was handled. I can buy that he didn't know how many votes he had but it was pretty clear that a wagon was likely to form on it, and it was an easy jump.

Further more, the way he reacts when he starts getting questioned about his read and placement he just unvoted and said he didn't need to be pressured which is an odd choice of words for someone who you're scum reading.

It would make more sense if was actually scum reading the slot to say he didn't need his vote and that he would rather wait to see him post.

Also, he was posting enough back then but was trying to not garner any attention, trying to fly under the radar so to speak.

And then he just went inactive.

As far as why I moved, That's all DL. I don't care about Yurkin but I don't want the day to end in a NL.

I thought I was the hammer vote and that the day was ending because we could use a night phase.

I can already tell its a vanity wagon but, if people are gonna try and push a Fitz one I thought I might as well tried to push one on scum.

As of right now, as long as it isn't a town read I'm more than happy to settle on the largest wagon which was Yurkin.

I wish I could push that slot harder and has more content to work with so I could work my read out but there's legit nothing there to push from either player in that slot

[Momrangal]

Why are you so against an assemble wagon, Nero?

[Momrangal]

Outside of him being a chronic lurker I mean

[Momrangal]

You think we're in a pretty good place?
Are we looking at the same game?

The game where we have like, 2 replacements, half a game of lurkers and and likely at least one more replacement coming in

On day mother ducking one

is far from a good place.


Oedit:VOTE: assemble

[Momrangal]

Also I feel like we could go into a NL at three days in because we're missing like half the game.

[Momrangal]

VOTE: kop

Don't like the claim.

Doesn't matter. Even if he's lying he's to important to just lynch the first day. This is something we can sort out later. Meanwhile you need to find another wagon because that's an unlikely lynch for today

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VOTE: kokichi

Fitz, would you cater to vote for koki?

This was to Nero who crazily stated that he thinks town is in a good place.


Also in further response to Nero, I did what any sane person would do on the last few days of a game, a vote on its own isn't going to do anything on its own but you know that. Keeping my vote on a bigger wagon while trying to see where support for your preferred wagon on deadline has been done more than once before.

But you also know that so what's up?

Also, yeah I thought he could have been lurking tactically and that replace out did make him look a little better but it doesn't change the fact that he pinged scum and the slot didn't do anything to dissuade the scum feels

[Momrangal]

Iirc he plays like this regardless

Though my experience is limited to a handful of game sooo

[Momrangal]

Also assemble needs only 4 more votes

Can we get more support there?

[Momrangal]

I never said Kop was in my scum pool, he is straight in my null pool.

I stated intent to hammer Yurkin when he hit L-1 when he was ad L-3 so I don't understand the surprise there.

Aside that I don't understand what I'm hand waving away. Your points on Dunn is not bad but I disagree with them. When I get reads off of stuff like how I read him I don't like to think about it much unless there was something that they did that is objectively scum-motivated but I don't see anything like that.


I asked him his experience with Koi so I could confirm my suspicions and he did.

If my read on either Dunn or Koi would have to be hurt, it would be more likely Koi but currently that isn't the case so...?

Also, me getting lynch early isn't the most ideal thing. To much overnight info gets lost

[Momrangal]

As far as Brass/assemble goes, I don't get the surprise on my sudden push there either.

I've been holding off on it all day and trying to be patient and give them time to do stuff.

I already stated that I realize that I don't have a case against them but that didn't change the way I feel about them.

As stated before i don't care about the fact that they are lurking but if they are doing it tactically (brought up by fitz) to stay under the radar using their meta as a defense then he should go regardless of alignment because he would be a hindrance to the game state.

Every thing assemble posted is NAI.

He's doing nothing but being a spectator and as scum, that's beneficial because he leaves no tracks on who his buddies could be

[Momrangal]

Wait...

WAIT

why would I look for reasons to TR people as scum?

[Momrangal]

And by having all these TRs instead of NRs I effectively cut myself off from pushing potential lynches in the long run.

As scum I am not getting anything from my Dunn and Koichi TE except a weird look in my direction when I decide to push them.

If I was using it to buddy any of mine I would like to think I would be more... Cozy... And be more... Appealing.

Those points may seem small to you but its always the more subtle tells like both Dunn and Koi dropped that are the most telling because its those that are the most difficult to reproduce as scum

[Momrangal]

I'm still not following what benefits I'm getting from my supposed tactical TRs.

I don't think scum should announce hard TRs because it does cut down options.

At least until mid-late game when everyone is usually forced to reevaluate their reads.

Its far smarter to like, have nulltown reads, since those are easier to justify changing

[Momrangal]

Uhhh... No?

[Momrangal]

TNE was null the whole time he was here. If anything I was defending him more than anything, regardless of my read of him I was stating that scum reading him off his early pushes was NAI at best. The way TNE was the worst thing that he did and A50 was null up until recently

[Momrangal]

Null-scum is still largely null. The way TNE replaced out was full of ATE and it was coming from a player who (IIRC) hates ATE and generally viewed it as scummy so yes, it made me feel worse on the slot overall.

I hadn't even realized that I was pushing less active slots but half the game is inactive and those that aren't are either obviously town, or was doing something in this game

I would admit I want those who literally aren't doing shit in this game gone and that probably caused what happened but you know that if I wanted to push a high activity player as scum I have zero fear in doing that and you also know that I prefer picking the fight as scum so the fact that you think I would do that because its the easier route is.... Insulting.

And again, the read has always been there and now I don't really even care if he's just an empty slot and if anything that just makes me want to lynch him more for preventing a more readable, and quite frankly active player from being in the game.

As far as A50 goes, most of what I liked from him was the fact that he reminds me of Jiffy.

Alignment wise, I liked the way he defended the Yurkin slot but I don't know how I feel about him giving up on that when he believed Kop to be a PR.

Overall, though doing that as scum is pretty idiotic since he's pretty much shading himself so I think that's likely town as well

[Momrangal]

I also don't do ISOs unless I feel like making a strong case, and its most definitely not going to come from a phone

[Momrangal]

I MEANT TO SAY THE WAY HE DEFENDED KOP WHOOPS

[Momrangal]

I am not gonna read a whole game to do a comparison.

To accurately meta a person it takes more than one game regardless.

To further that, determine activity based on ISO and the activity overview can be misleading

[Momrangal]

So.

A50 defends kop because he thinks he may be a pr

He drops hints that he may be a PR.

he's thinking kop is a or

So why would be give in and be willing to lynch someone he thinks is a or

My mind is WIFOMing all over the place and placing him town for this because its such a scummy move

But it would hurt scum him more than it would hurt town him

[Momrangal]

But, as scum its still a stupid and detrimental move to go

"I KNEW IT, I KNEW IT, I KNEW HE WAS A PR"

when he could have just stayed quiet. And then generally because its such a scummy thing to say a person who looks at it in passing is more likely to think he's scum than town that it like... It gives him zero town cred

Pedit: yeah... Yeah, basically

[Momrangal]

Gamma Kop claimed JK

[Momrangal]

I feel...unsure about Gamma. I liked the way he caught up and the fact that he seemed willing to contribute. It seems he's caught up but...

I don't know how to make heads or tails about him putting a vote on a PR claim. The fact that he asked for an extension made him feel a bit townier and logically it doesn't make sense, if he's caught up, to place a vote on Kop because it makes people look at him weird.

What really gets me is that he voted a wagon that wasn't viable.

I'm also curious to how he figured the only options to wagon was me and Dunn. Iirc Dunn doesn't have a wagon on him?

Also why he voted Kop over the viable CW if he didn't want me to get pushed.


Also why I soft claimed... Do I.. Do I really need to answer?
Like really?

[Momrangal]

I think you are prob scum that used a pr soft claim to shoo to votes off you but not lock yourself into anything specific. I'm not sure what I expected when I asked but that's what I think.

There aren't that many roles that directly interfer with the night phase

Given GE sounds like he didn't want to push Mom anymore after a softclaim, I'd be surprised if he knew Kop claimed a pr.

@Mom: What do you think of Fuzzy leaving his vote on Kop after the claim?

Not currently intending to unvote Mom.

I thought Fuzzy unvoted his next post after the claim.

If he left it on, then... Idk he read as town with his Nero interaction but outside of lurking he hasn't done anything to hurt that town read before this specific point.

[Momrangal]

Mmm..

Mmm..

I need another wagon

Fitz you think Kop and A50 are scum together?

I mean.... That's a weird way to WK a buddy

[Momrangal]

A50/chick/Gamma


I think I want to move to one of those three


Maybe fitz? But I think that slot is not very likely scum

[Momrangal]

That's interesting

[Momrangal]

My reads suddenly got shitty as soon as A50 moved from "to scummy to be scum so he feels town"

To Nero making me rethink that town read

[Momrangal]

VOTE: A50

I think I found my new wagon.

Fitz?

[Momrangal]

I did a quick review and reallt, his only scum reads are people who aren't seeing him as town

[Momrangal]

Regardless of what I read people i never vote for pr claims soft or otherwise unless I am counterclaiming

[Momrangal]

Its more than likely possible.

My role is passive, but the issue is here.

He said its not a good idea to get him lynched but this is what I'm saying

If his claim is legit then the choices are between a probable active role, lynching me and losing the first night, or a no lynch if we can't build up a CW.

I don't think my role is very important at all if I am completely honest. I can't do anything, effectively VT outside the fact that when I get lynched or killed the next day immediately begins.

Early on its a hindrance to town because we need those early night for more information while later in the game a lost night phase is a bigger deal for scum than it is for town

[Momrangal]

Pedit:

VOTE: chick

[Momrangal]

We lynch say...


Nero.

N1 I'm killed after D2 ends D3 immediately begins

[Momrangal]

The opposite of a Beloved Princess Role

That role skips a day phase, my role skips a night phase

Pedit: he called me an energizer

Pedit2: yes

[Momrangal]

I have no idea how you're planning on putting Assemble on L-1 when he only now has three votes.

Either way what are both thoughts on chick?

[Momrangal]

But with each positive investigation result, the scum pool gets smaller and that's assuming the investigative lasts that Long

[Momrangal]

Let me rephrase...

Each night we get early on is a night the investigative can hit a positive and a negative.

Each night the investigative hits a town role, the pool for who is potential scum gets smaller

Along with other confirming actions outside of a kill.

[Momrangal]

Additionally, removing a night before said investigative is dead removes potential conf.towns

Pedit: if interest in Gamma picks up again I have no qualms in lynching

But like i said regardless of my read I dont lynch claimed or soft claimed PRs since we can easily check them later on and catch them out based on what they give on night actions

[Momrangal]

What the fuck?

[Momrangal]

Can someone tell me why we are voting the pr claim and not the guilty?

This isn't making any kind of sense


Pedit: seriously?

[Momrangal]

VOTE: gamma

[Momrangal]

Guys like

This is either a town gambit or its a legit claim. Its dumb as fuck for him to do this as scum


Pedit: ofc you're gonna deny it

[Momrangal]

If A50 gets lynched Im gonna permanently retire again

Pedit.... He got a guilty? It happens all the time?

[Momrangal]

I'm but like... How does that make him scum?

[Momrangal]

Uh no shit I defaulted to A50 town gambitting.

What I'm more surprised by is the fact that Nero also thinks A50 is also scum.

I know he knows better than that

[Momrangal]

I did not see the claim

And I did not default to him gambiting I thought he had an actual guilty.

And I literally just stated why A50 is town

[Momrangal]

Dunn I can take a closer look at tonight, I think leave him alive for now.

Thoughts on this post?

Also the fact that Kop, a claimed PR being alive today is really weird. Its not like there was anyone who would be able to protect him

Also Koi wasn't the most vocal and the most present person in the game either so I would also look towards Hop as potential scum because he town leaders who are actually town don't tend to last very long

[Momrangal]

Mom voted Chick without any serious reasoning, or anybody else voting Chick, despite being vocally in favour of an Assemble lynch before. That looks like activily avoiding the wagon.

Uh yeah

I was explicitly stating that I thought assemble had softed and I wasn't willing to lynch a PR soft.

[Momrangal]

If A50 is town here then props to him for willingly drawing all the attention to him because that makes him either suicidal or ballsy

[Momrangal]

I could look towards Chick but I still think Dunn is town and the flip only strengthens that Dunn read.

I liked and resonate with that last fitz post but what really bothers me is hiplop trying to shade me as scum for avoiding the Assemble wagon near the end of the day WHEN I STATED THAT I WAS DOUNG SO because I thought he had softed

I wasn't even the only one and I said many times that I am not willing to lynch a PR claim soft or hard.

[Momrangal]

Errr hopkirk

[Momrangal]

@Fuzzy: For an example of what I meant last page when I said people pushing lynched that weren't going to happen to avoid being on Assemble: Mom voted Chick without any serious reasoning, or anybody else voting Chick, despite being vocally in favour of an Assemble lynch before. That looks like activily avoiding the wagon.

VOTE: Mom
as before

Talking about this.

And I voted chick because there were other people who were vocal about wanting that slot lynched as well so I don't really understand why he as town would bring this up

[Momrangal]

I'm really disliking the way Kop is pushing this.

I'm also wondering why no one is looking into a kill that was the furthest from what someone would expect.

Honestly I would have suspected Kop, Nero and Hopkirk as the most likely kills last night and Koi didn't even have so many defenders that she was entirely possible lynch fodder later on.

This is most definitely something people should pay attention too

[Momrangal]

I also am impartial to this 3rd party speculation. I find flavor to me too much of a stretch

[Momrangal]

I think I can get behind hopkirk

[Momrangal]

Mom, would you be interested in giving us a readslist and being lynched so we can move on knowing that your slot is town?

You can lynch me whenever you want, give me a few

[Momrangal]

I'm also wondering why no one is looking into a kill that was the furthest from what someone would expect

It is for this particular reason that I'm accepting Kop's theory of the SK. Mafia make more logical kills, but the Serial Killer would kills just about anyone, and preferably someone they know won't be protected because nobody thinks highly of them (in terms of TRs).

Possible, or maybe it may not have been as random as we may think.

I quoted one of Koichis post, the one where she said she would pay Dunn a visit last night.

I get the feeling that, scum may have believed Koi was a PR and really, if scum have a strongman, it would make more sense to keep Kop alive if he is town.

It also directly incriminates Dunn and didn't seem likely to be a target by potential investigative as well as Kop himself in the absence of a strong man.

She also pinged Chick and Fitz. Odds are one of them are likely scum and the other two are being framed. Dunn and Fitz are my two picks for framework

I want to take a closer look at people who are pushing Dunn this day phase the most

[Momrangal]

I think my preferred push for today is Chick though. If my theory is sound then Gamma may be just lynchbait.

I mean he claimed VT. I feel like if he was scum he isn't even trying to save himself from being lynched with that claim

[Momrangal]

Dunnstral
Almost50

Nero Cain

havingfitz
TheFuzzylogic99
Kop
The Powerpuff Girls
Gamma Emerald

Hopkirk

Chickadee

I think this may be about where I stand

[Momrangal]

I think scum thought Kokichi softed cop and shot him.

Scum indicative for Dunn, meaningless otherwise.

Agree with cop soft, disagree with it meaning dunnscum

If scum thought koi was cop they would have killed it over JK regardless and regardless of Dunn being town or scum with them.

In fact like I said, if Dunn is town its the perfect mislynch to push

[Momrangal]

I'm not sure how I'm a town leader here. I wanted Mom or Dunn lynched yesterday.

Could Mom and the crazy head explain what they mean?

You are the most prevalent voice here and nearly no one is questioning your alignment for some reason. Even if you didnt get your preferred lynch you are still in the position to command the gamestate

[Momrangal]

And you are still ignoring the fact that there was support for a chick lynch even though people weren't voting there.

Why are you ignoring that little tidbit?

[Momrangal]

You're both wrong its been close to two years

[Momrangal]

Tfw gamma is obvscum but town can't be fucked to actually play the game instead of sheeping scum hopkirk on a wagon on a player who hadn't played in 3 years and claimed a role that conditionally guarantees their lynch

Hasn't played in 1 year, not 3.
Why aren't you answering my question about the difference between me and Necro here?

You have the ability to persuade people. Nero (I still love you) doesn't

[Momrangal]

Clearing the little thing over me up.

Its been two years and I may be a little rusty and out of practice as well as unfamiliar with the new site meta but I don't I should be attributed as new. I like to think I was a bit... Strong back in the day and I wasn't the most Gambitty player but I wasn't really conservative.

I'm not the same person I was two years back and I don't think I should be compared to my outdated Meta anyway.

[Momrangal]

This is a weird perspective as Town.

It's not.

Why are you asking if it matters when we potentially mislynch her rather than trying to see her alignment

I've already provided my opinion of her alignment and regardless, my question still stands.

or RC's alignment?

What does RC's alignment (which I've opined on) have to do with my question?

Well if it has nothing to do with Mom's alignment (the subject) or RC's alignment (the respondent) then I don't see the purpose of such a question, if you want to lynch mom now make a case to convince town rather than whatever it is you think you're doing providing fluff content disguised as something useful.

~ Buttercheeks

I think I wanna add the prepubescent hero's to my leantown list

[Momrangal]

Also yes I would have no lynched. We shouldn't even have gotten to a deadline scramble anyway.

A no lynch isn't the best scenario but it beats mislynching a PR. Especially if said PRs are easy to prove to be town.

[Momrangal]

I dislike Fitz and Chicks reasons for my lynch. I dislike Chick ignoring the claim overall

[Momrangal]

I have a feeling that you'd get behind anything that's not a Kop/A50 wagon

Kop not right now

I also wouldn't vote you, or Dunn

[Momrangal]

Also my egos really hurting now. Tnx fuzzy

[Momrangal]

a role that gets policy lynched in mylo

If this is inevitable it does it really matter if she's lynched today or not?

I was talking about this.

But the ppg hydra is taking care of it so

[Momrangal]

I dislike Fitz and Chicks reasons for my lynch. I dislike Chick ignoring the claim overall

Sorry did I miss something? I saw your claim. I even made reference to it. Maybe I misunderstood something about it?




Also I am coming around to the idea of Gamma scum. His recent reactions have been off-putting to me.

Ok I missed that, yeah it skips a night but still it's like... The only reason you want to lynch me is because of my claim not because I am scum?

And if I'm the one your most interested it feels like to me, you aren't lynching scum but lynching because its the easiest and most convienent

[Momrangal]

Pedit: questioning fitz over that post and it does help with some of the reservations I had on it

[Momrangal]

What are your other scum reads?

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UNVOTE:

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I don't know if I can have a null scum read on gamma based on that last response. I mean... He's not even fighting or trying to. He's just given up. I feel like scum would find some kind of defense and not just go "eh can't think of anything"

[Momrangal]

Yeah, scum me will totally attempt to quicklynch my buddy, hard town read my other buddy, bus first buddy again with a cop claim, and then just decide I don't want to vote him because he said something that made me think him to be town.

[Momrangal]

Sigh

I think scum is in the VT claims. There are alot of investigative and town has alot of power at night. It makes even more sense that, upon my lynch both town and scum are punished by the skipped night

But the hammer went through before j could really even comment on anything

[Momrangal]

Hopkirk: tracker cleared. Dunn being killed last night aside, he has the kill flavor of stabbed as per his role PM.
He cannot perform the NK two nights in a row, so assuming three members, lynching one means they only have two remaining and the one that isn't Dunn had to perform the NK

I am cop cleared.

Fuzzy is the cop, and he should have one more clear for us

[Momrangal]

VOTE: Chick

[Momrangal]

Second night tracked Hopkirk. No movement. Assuming there's one scum left and they're not also trackproof like Dunn, that's a clear on Hop since Dunn couldn't make the kill and it also wasn't his flavour.

Kokichi Oma was stabbed to death Night 1. He was a...

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Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie.

Welcome, Kokichi Oma, to Mini 1990: Terror in the City!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

, aligned with the

Town.

You're just an ordinary citizen caught up in this mess, and you're hoping that those responsible will be caught and punished.

You have no special abilities. Your weapons are your mind and your vote.

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Please respond to this PM indicating you understand your role and win condition.
The game thread is here.

Dunnstral was mauled Night 2. He was a...

Mafia Serial Killer.

Welcome, Dunnstral, to Mini 1990: Terror in the City!

You are a

Serial Killer

, aligned with the

Mafia.

You're a crazed maniac who obsessively hunts down victims and leaves no trace of who might have done it. Recently, you have been recruited by the Mafia in order to help them destroy the town.

[REDACTED]

On nights when you carry out the factional kill, all investigative actions targeting you will return "no result".

However, if you successfully kill a player, then you may not carry out the factional kill on the following night,

even if you are the only mafia member remaining.

Your kill flavor is "stabbed".

Note: Even though your role is Serial Killer, you are a member of the mafia, NOT self-aligned. You win with your teammates, and you do not possess a kill separate from the factional kill.

You win when the Mafia control 50% of all living players or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Please respond to this PM indicating you understand your role and win condition.
The game thread is here.

[Momrangal]

TheFuzzylogic99
Almost50
Chickadee-lynch D4
Momrangal
Hopkirk
havingfitz

Fuzzy kills A50
Scum kill Fuzzy

D5
Mom
Fitz
Hop

If the game is still a think tomorrow then there has got to be another scum GF or hop is another ninja

[Momrangal]

Also fuzzy needs to shoot. He said he's shoots randomly if he doesn't submit an action iirc

[Momrangal]

And i mean if I get lynched today I am pretty sure its a scum win? I feel like its a pretty opportunistic post to make, and it benefits scum more now because, with me getting lynched tomorrow will be

Fuzzy
Chick
Hop
Fitz
A50

That's Mylo considering Fuzzy still needs to shoot (I think).

[Momrangal]

He is

Also, one thing was left out.

If fuzzy is 3p and if I flip scum it's auto lose for him.

If I flip town, then fuzzy either ties with scum-fits, crosskills with him and they both loose or fuzzy kills fits and fits kill hop and wins. It's 30/30/30 deal for him.

But if 3p fuzzy forces the no lynch today he'll be forcing scum to tie with him since killing him will cause the scum too lose

So...fuzzy?

[Momrangal]

Actually.

I'm claiming scum and hoping I didn't misstep on my fuzzy 3p assumption

[Momrangal]

I either sealed my fate or ensured a tie between me and fuzzy.

[Momrangal]

If fuzzy is 3p the game is already over for town when I shoot one of you tonigh

[Momrangal]

There's one of you and still two of us.

Me and fuzzy can push the lynch on the remaining town and tie

[Momrangal]

Whelp.

It was worth a shot

[Momrangal]

It could have!
I also went from fuzzy to fitz then back to fuzzy and if I stuck with fitz I probably could have pushed you to win

[Momrangal]

Really it would have all depended on fuzzy, though at the end of it I found fitz/you a better LYLO because while fuzzy was blind to information that was being posted in this thread I couldn't count on him to stay that way that much is true.

[Momrangal]

I also spent like, two whole days since day open trying to figure out how to play with magic strings and possibly evade my lynch and pull through with the win and I was coming up blank

[Momrangal]

When I made it there were three of us. I didn't expect to need to get to lylo myself and I definitely didn't see fuzzy not getting killed and it not being mylo. It was a risky claim but it bought me a shit ton of time