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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:25 am
by Xylthixlm
Maemuki, please include who said what you're quoting. It makes it terribly hard to read when you don't.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:29 am
by Xylthixlm
Maemuki, please include who said what you're quoting. It makes it terribly hard to read when you don't.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:35 am
by Xylthixlm
Maemuki, it's incredibly hard to make sense of what you write when you have a bunch of quotes and don't include the authors in the quote tags. Stop it.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:21 pm
by Xylthixlm
Wow, MafiaScum.fail.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:37 pm
by ortolan
Now I need to work on convincing you to shoot Sarag next

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:34 pm
by Yosarian2
Yeah, Sarag is very probably scum here.

This flip also dosn't do anything to change my mind about Howard being scum; Howard has not mentioned Almaster since december 20th, and that was just a neutral complaint about lurking. Even as it was looking more and more likely Almaster was going to be shot yesterday, Howard never commented on him.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:14 pm
by Xylthixlm
My working plan goes like this:

Shoot Sarag.
If Sarag is scum... shoot someone other than me, Yosarian2, or ortolan. Repeat until all scum are dead. This is a guaranteed win as long as the three players I named are town, and no gunbearer decides to screw us by shooting one of them anyways.

If Sarag isn't scum, look for a plan B.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:40 pm
by DragonsofSummer
Seems fair to me.
shoot sarag
If we are right, we can figure out other scums tomorrow, if not good luck guys.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:58 pm
by ortolan
Xyl wrote:Shoot Sarag.
If Sarag is scum... shoot someone other than me, Yosarian2, or ortolan. Repeat until all scum are dead. This is a guaranteed win as long as the three players I named are town, and no gunbearer decides to screw us by shooting one of them anyways.
I see a potential flaw in this plan.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:59 pm
by Elmo
DragonsofSummer figures this thing has an "auto" setting for a reason and keeps firing, onto Sarag's direction. The
Mafia Goon
's remains aren't pretty.

Day 5 dawns!
The gunbearer is still
DragonsofSummer
.
The
deadline
is Tuesday 9th February, 22:00 UTC, which is 18 days and 16 hours from this post.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:37 pm
by ortolan
kill Yos now please

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:04 pm
by ortolan
wait...Hacker has been attacking townies and defending scum all game. Plus he was on my original list the scum tried to discredit by appointing DoS as gunbearer.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:05 pm
by ortolan
Hacker or Yos, I don't really care (Yos being shot and being town has obvious benefits, I know this argument was called scummy before but I don't care), Hacker definitely needs to die sometime so now's as good a time as any.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:37 pm
by Xylthixlm
ortolan wrote:kill Yos now please
Uh, no.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:47 pm
by Maemuki
Xylthixlm wrote:Maemuki, it's incredibly hard to make sense of what you write when you have a bunch of quotes and don't include the authors in the quote tags. Stop it.
k. Both are Sarag's.

Hi Hacker! Defending scum, aren't we?

Can we shoot this guy now?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:49 pm
by Maemuki
If it isn't obvious, this guy means HH. I just reread the post and it didn't make much sense. Sorry. >.<

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:08 pm
by HowardRoark
@ortolan: As much as I'd like HackerHuck shot dead, I don't know that his possibly inaccurate reads are damning on their own and the DoS gun bearing choice is WIFOM territory.

On shooting Yosarian2: I agree that it would be telling, but I think we should go with a scummier player today. We have two free mislynches available right now. Hitting another scum today leaves us with one scum to go. Then shooting Yosarian2 might be a good choice.


I should have time and access for a good re-read before the week-end is complete.

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:45 pm
by Xylthixlm
HowardRoark wrote:On shooting Yosarian2: I agree that it would be telling
Telling of what?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:48 pm
by ortolan
btw I am waiting on Howard's reads. I will say that I didn't like his last post.

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:11 am
by Yosarian2
ortolan wrote:Hacker or Yos, I don't really care (Yos being shot and being town has obvious benefits, I know this argument was called scummy before but I don't care), Hacker definitely needs to die sometime so now's as good a time as any.
Except if me, Xyl, and you are all town (and I'm pretty sure we are) then as Xyl pointed out, all we have to do is shoot everyone else and we win.

I mean, granted, at this point the odds are in our favor no matter what. But if we shoot me and then I'm wrong about, say, Nacho, town could still lose.

Howard's last post is pretty funny though. Did anyone else read it as: "No, don't shoot Yos now, because then he'll shoot me. Let's see if we can mislynch one more townie today and then get the gunbarer to shoot Yos tomorrow."

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:03 am
by ortolan
Sarag (706) wrote:You should shoot HowardRoark instead. I've made the case for that already.
This is a very good reason not to shoot HowardRoark.
Almaster (708) wrote:My top suspect is Maemukei.
Almaster (708) wrote:t.l.;dr - you should shoot Maemuki today.
Maemuki (693) wrote:I am believing an Sarag/AlmasterGM scumteam now. She looks like "Hey, just look! There are scummier people than my buddy *attackattackattack*"
These are very good reasons not to shoot Maemukei.
Xyl (683) wrote:Combining my town/uncertain list with Yos's, I think the people who are left as good shots for today are Sarag and AlmasterGM.
This is a good reason not to shoot Xyl.
Nacho (684) wrote:Xyl & Yos: They're our 2 most protown players right now; they're active, they present good logic, and they're aggressive. Xyl I'm less sure of, but he's being active in LyLo, aggressive, and unafraid, so... protown.

Maemuki: I don't have a good enough read on her. She's lurked into oblivion since her little spurt of activity in the beginning, and I really don't think we should shoot a lurker like her today.

Ort: Ort isn't afraid of going against the crowd, and he's very vocal with his opinions. He calls a lot of town reads, which would be trapping himself in a corner if he was scum. Finally, he wouldn't be stupid enough to attack DoS as strong as he did, then give him the gun.
This post has obviously been made by a pro-town player.
ortolan (702) wrote:I reread Almaster and still think he has a high chance of being scum. I would still shoot Sarag number 1 though...frankly I find her posts unconvincing. I might meta her...brb
This is why you shouldn't shoot me.

I don't know why Xyl thinks Yos is town, he and Hacker are totally the odd ones out here. I'm about 95% sure they're the last two scum at this point.

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:09 am
by HackerHuck
ortolan wrote:
Sarag (706) wrote:You should shoot HowardRoark instead. I've made the case for that already.
This is a very good reason not to shoot HowardRoark.
Almaster (708) wrote:My top suspect is Maemukei.
Almaster (708) wrote:t.l.;dr - you should shoot Maemuki today.
Maemuki (693) wrote:I am believing an Sarag/AlmasterGM scumteam now. She looks like "Hey, just look! There are scummier people than my buddy *attackattackattack*"
These are very good reasons not to shoot Maemukei.

...

I don't know why Xyl thinks Yos is town, he and Hacker are totally the odd ones out here. I'm about 95% sure they're the last two scum at this point.
So it appears that you think the scum are incapable of bussing - except for me.
HackerHuck at the bottom of post 689 wrote:...I don't really find these quotes to support a Howard/Alamaster scumteam, but I could see scum-Alamaster forgetting that he was bussing scum-Sarag.
I'm also wondering why you aren't concerned that Nacho thinks Yos is town. I really haven't seen anything in his play that indicates a good town read, and the quote you provided certainly doesn't convince me.

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:41 am
by Xylthixlm
ortolan wrote:I don't know why Xyl thinks Yos is town
I read his posts.

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:25 am
by Maemuki
AlmasterGM wrote:17 - Suspects Sarag, HH, and HR. Gives NO reasons for any of them.
*whistles* More reasons to shoot HH!
MAEMUKI NOT MAEMUKEI wrote:...it's not a damn slip if there's not a freaking flip! What, do you think that I can see everyone's role PM's before they flip? Give me a break.
Any answers to this, or were you looking for a shitty reason to justify your read on me~?

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:31 am
by Xylthixlm
Right now I'm leaning towards HowardRoark + HackerHuck as the last two scum, mostly by process of elimination.