Mini 897 - OpenSource Mafia - Game over!!

[SocioPath]

You don't use a list of tells, you figure out if the "scumtell" is being done to hurt town or if it's a misguided attempt to help town.

I don't use a list of tells.

You were certainly hurting the town.

'Oh I must have been RB'd blablabla'


And you lead to the result of a scum driven townie quick lynch.

Bottom line, you were hurting the town.
You had to be put down.

[UncertainKitten]

Cept you were an SK, so I have no need to believe you.

But you still didn't make the distinction.

Was it being done to intentionally hurt town, or was it a misguided attempt to not mislynch based on bastard results?

I think the answer is clear.

[SocioPath]

Cept you were an SK

How did your perspective of me shift throughout the game though?

Did you think I was an SK D1? D2? When you got NK'd? At which point did you think I was not of town?



And me killing you was what I saw to be helping the town.

All my kills were aimed at taking out scum.

I NK'd 2 scum. I Drove the lynch of 1 scum.

I think I did alright when it comes to helping the town.
Aside from my own alignment quibbles.
Although it should also be noted I attempted to change my own alignment N1.
I exuded townieness all game. ;o

[UncertainKitten]

Nyeh, honestly, I have a bit of favoritism. I like playing with you so I'm less likely to think you scum, which is problematic. I do the same with others I play with a lot.

I'll admit killing me was a relief since I WAS lost this game and overall useless, but I don't agree I was scummy if you actually critically thought about my posts.

I notice you didn't answer the other points. Good going ^-^.

[SocioPath]

Nyeh, honestly, I have a bit of favoritism. I like playing with you so I'm less likely to think you scum, which is problematic. I do the same with others I play with a lot.

Same, but at the point Iec was scum, and your:

I WAS lost this game and overall useless

there was a massively good chance from everything that had been said so far you were scum with Iec. I even predicted that you 'targeted' Iec. I made SURE to get in there as soon as the thread was opened to vote you as to not have it tarnished by what you said. You targetting Iec was IECCING on the cake. ;o

I notice you didn't answer the other points. Good going ^-^.

Just cause they weren't directly quoted doesn't mean they weren't without answers in their own little ways. ;D

[UncertainKitten]

You still didn't answer them. I've reread your post.

But, guess what, you were wrong ^-^. I don't think I played well. I just disagree with your assertation that I was the scummiest player. Hence my argument with you.

[SocioPath]

At the point of which I aimed for your lynch, I thought you were.
'Wrong' is a silly term to throw around.
Scum or not, you were a good lynch.

[UncertainKitten]

I disagree. No lynch of a town player is ever "good". In fact, it WAS handled the best way possible by me being NK'd. Wrong isn't silly to throw around when the facts state I was town and you pursued my lynch. Whether your reasoning was "right" or "wrong", the result was wrong, and therefore you were wrong. That implies you need to reassess how you handle me.

[UncertainKitten]

EBWOP: Sorry, it also implies that I need to reassess how I play as well. Both of us were wrong in our own ways. Actually, you less so since you WERE an SK. However, you say you were playing as town, and from a town perspective you were wrong.

[SocioPath]

That implies you need to reassess how you handle me.

And how would you propose I do such?

[UncertainKitten]

Good question ^-^. I don't want to "get away with a bad playstyle", hence my EBWOP, but I also don't like cookie cutter scum hunting. I'll do it my own way and succeed eventually. You need to figure out how you'll compensate your reads to be accurate wrt me. I don't think that I play the same way as scum as I do town, so it shouldn't nerf your scumhunting ability. In turn, I need to not just rely on the fact people don't tend to lynch me and work on my scumhunting and being a little more logical.

[SocioPath]

Actually, you less so since you WERE an SK. However, you say you were playing as town, and from a town perspective you were wrong.

SK was my fail safe. ;D

If I was just a vig, I might have vig'd SSK before you.
Since my case on him based off of his and your back and forth was pretty concrete.
Also since you weren't scum, it confirmed that SSK was.
And was something that I could with in LYLO.
Which I did.
And the NK'd the last obvious scum, MS. OOPS QUICK LYNCH MAD BAD. XD

[SocioPath]

cookie cutter scum hunting.

Heh.
In this game alone I've detailed how I just START scum hunting with a player even before reading anything they've wrote.

[UncertainKitten]

Whatever, seems we have a fundamental disagreement in what counts for being right and not. I have no reason to keep arguing. I'll do things my way, you do things your way. Hopefully I'll play a better game next time we meet.

[SocioPath]

I have no reason to keep arguing.

Because debating is fun.
If it wasn't, Mafia as a game would flop.
AND YOU ENJOY MY PERSONABLE PERSONALITY.

[UncertainKitten]

Surprisingly, I actually dislike confrontation and argument. I really don't know why I play mafia, except it's somehow fun. But outside of it I prefer to just agree to disagree. Hence what I'm doing here.

[SocioPath]

SO THEN IT RELIES ENTIRELY ON MY PERSONABLE PERSONALITY.

[UncertainKitten]

Sure, we'll go with that ^-^;.

[SocioPath]

Heh...when in doubt, consult the wiki I guess:

Well, I'm forbiddanlight, and as far as my data indicates, I am one of the most inverted players ever, in that my scum game is usually my most pro town and

my townie game is scummier than the actual scum.

[Faraday]

UK was townie. The only time I was suspicious was when she defended me, but I kinda get weirded out by people defending me in general ;/

[Faraday]

Also I was fucking shocked I wasn't scum when I joined this game. I'd read Josh in iso before hand, lol.

[UncertainKitten]

Heh...when in doubt, consult the wiki I guess:

Well, I'm forbiddanlight, and as far as my data indicates, I am one of the most inverted players ever, in that my scum game is usually my most pro town and

my townie game is scummier than the actual scum.

I'm not sure if that holds as true anymore. Oh, it certainly was this game. But I generally just get read as town if I live past D1 or D2.

[MeMe]

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