Mini 950: DCI Mafia (The Results Are In...)

[Looker]

vote kunkstar7

Is Nicodemus still in this game?

[animorpherv1]

@Nikanor:

IMO, if you refuse to answer the question, you have something to hide. I'm thinking he's just hiding that fact because he's lazy.

@Slaxx:

I don't need to. There was a quote in his sig for a while that shows how badly he acts. Still there, it seems:

Ythan, on my play: "Scummy and bad are not the same. Some players manage to keep them separate, though I applaud how masterfully you blend them."

[Parama]

Ani, you're getting waaaay too hung up on your pregame questions... considering that they aren't applicable to just this one game they're not the most important thing ever.

[kunkstar7]

@Nikanor:

IMO, if you refuse to answer the question, you have something to hide. I'm thinking he's just hiding that fact because he's lazy.

In some situations yes, but I don't really blame Nacho at all because they weren't exactly the best questions, especially the last two which were only for specific situations, unless they provided you with some other insight into the players that we don't understand?

Looker, why no reason for your vote, regardless if its random or not? Same to muh316.

[Nikanor]

Who is opposed to an ani lynch today? I want

everyone

to weigh in on this. Failure to do so will put you at the top of my scumlist.

[Parama]

@Slaxx:

I don't need to. There was a quote in his sig for a while that shows how badly he acts. Still there, it seems:

Ythan, on my play: "Scummy and bad are not the same. Some players manage to keep them separate, though I applaud how masterfully you blend them."

Something like that doesn't mean much coming from Ythan <____<
Anyways Nico's a good player IMO. You are going for OMG EXTREME POLICY LYNCH... have you ever played with him before?

@Nikanor: I'm not opposed to it but this seems more like VI behavior than scummy behavior.

[Slaxx]

Yeah I don't like that reason. You are going for a policy lynch before Nic really has a chance to do much. I don't know about the VI behavior, Parama. Pushing for a lynch like this doesn't feel VI.

[kunkstar7]

Who is opposed to an ani lynch today? I want

everyone

to weigh in on this. Failure to do so will put you at the top of my scumlist.

I don't understand exactly why Ani is ready for a lynch today. Basically I'm asking for a summary of the case against him.

I for one understood his original random vote, as all three of us have been in that game at some point. Its kind of pushing the borders of talking about an ongoing game, but still, I don't see how its enough to warrant a lynch.

[Clank]

I guess I should mention that I needed to e-mail change, and mith needs to confirm it now.

So, untill then, I'll be using this.

~ani

[Trumpet of Doom]

Stephoscope replaces The1fifi. Please welcome him to the game!

Nicodemus and Starbuck are being prodded (already).

As he has stated, animorpherv1 will temporarily be posting as Clank due to issues with his main account.

ToD Presents: The Best of DCI (Santa Clara Vanguard, 1989: The Phantom of the Opera)

Before anyone asks: No, the shows I link are not intended to give players an idea of which corps might or might not be in the game.

Vote Count A:
Nicodemus (3, L-4) - Parama, animorpherv1/Clank, muh316
animorpherv1/Clank (2, L-5) - Nachomamma8, Nikanor
Nachomamma8 (1, L-6) - kunkstar7
muh316 (1, L-6) - Slaxx
Parama (1, L-6) - NavyCherub
kunkstar7 (1, L-6) - Looker

Not Voting (3): Stephoscope, Nicodemus, Starbuck

7 votes are required to lynch, 4 at deadline.

Current Deadline:

Friday, April 16, 2010, ~7:45 AM CDT (GMT-6+1)

[Nicodemus]

Hey guys, sorry for the absence this weekend, I'll make sure to get a post up tomorrow.

[Starbuck]

Wow, no courtesy even over holiday weekends?

That's sad.


Catching up later on today, as I planned to.

[Parama]

Okay, something needs to happen.
The scum in this game are kunkstar7, Nachomamma8, and Stethoscope.
GG.

Vote: animorpherv1

For the weak FoS comboed with a failure to vote change. Isn't my being the only person to refuse to answer your random questions a better reason than the one behind your random vote? If not, why the FoS?

Yo bro I'm reaching for a reason not to random vote because I want to take the moral high ground now so I can lead later!

Looker, why no reason for your vote, regardless if its random or not? Same to muh316.

Yo bro I'm overreacting to a random vote but I have nothing better to do so hopefully this won't look like paranoia!

Stephoscope replaces The1fifi. Please welcome him to the game!

Yo bro I haven't even posted acknowledging my presence in this game, I'm just going to be the lurkerscum of this game!

Any questions?

unvote, vote: kunkstar7

[Nachomamma8]

Yeah, I wouldn't mind a ani lynch... If deadline was in a little bit, it'd be our best choice.

Parama, moral high ground? Also, I'm pretty sure I'm not the one reaching for reasons to vote here.

[Parama]

Hey look, discussion!

[Nachomamma8]

Continue it by responding?

[Parama]

You wanted to take the leadership role so you can get a lynch wagon going. It's likely a ML.

[Nachomamma8]

Parama, moral high ground? Also, I'm pretty sure I'm not the one reaching for reasons to vote here.

In other words, what moral high ground am I taking? Why am I "reaching for reasons"?

[Slaxx]

Its still early in the game. Discussion is waning. Everyone is gonna be reaching for reasons. However, I think Parama has had to reach the least so far. It did indeed seem kunk was wary about the random vote. I think he tried to cover it up by adding muh as a side note.

unvote

vote: kunkstar7

[kunkstar7]

Okay, something needs to happen.
The scum in this game are kunkstar7, Nachomamma8, and Stethoscope.
GG.

Vote: animorpherv1

For the weak FoS comboed with a failure to vote change. Isn't my being the only person to refuse to answer your random questions a better reason than the one behind your random vote? If not, why the FoS?

Yo bro I'm reaching for a reason not to random vote because I want to take the moral high ground now so I can lead later!

Looker, why no reason for your vote, regardless if its random or not? Same to muh316.

Yo bro I'm overreacting to a random vote but I have nothing better to do so hopefully this won't look like paranoia!

Stephoscope replaces The1fifi. Please welcome him to the game!

Yo bro I haven't even posted acknowledging my presence in this game, I'm just going to be the lurkerscum of this game!

Any questions?

unvote, vote: kunkstar7

Awesome, follow Parama and we got this game in the bag! <- Not sarcastic.

I view random votes as a way to generate discussion that starts the serious part of the game. By not giving a reason along with your random vote you deny town something to discuss. Since both Looker's and muh's votes went against this tenet I called them out on it.

[Slaxx]

You contradict yourself. Do me a few favors.

Look up the definition of random.
Look up the first few pages of virtually any game.

Come back to me and try to argue coherently.

Random=Unreasoned
Reasoned =/= Unreasoned.

Bandwagons generate discussion. Not single votes.

[kunkstar7]

Random votes can still have a reason... even if its silly. That extra comment is what prompts the discussion in my view.

For example:

1) Vote: Slaxx.
2) Vote: Slaxx because his obvious buddying with Looker is scummy.

Now, both of those are random votes. Yet the second has a reason, even if it is completely bogus and just for lulz. Which would you be more likely to respond to? I would argue that single votes can generate discussion, so you final assumption is incorrect.

Now I see you are going to probably object that the second example is not a random vote. Yet in many mafia games if this was put on the first page it would not be taken seriously, thus is technically a random vote within the context of a game.

[Slaxx]

They are both random. Analyzing those comments lead to WIFOM. I dont look at that stuff. I look at the bandwagons. Anyway we are drifting off into game play debate which is for a different forum. The point is, ive never questioned a random vote on me. I know its random. The fact that you did gives me unsettling feelings.

[Nachomamma8]

Unvote, Vote: NavyCherub

[NavyCherub]

I agree with Slaxx, at least a little. There's not really much that can be analyzed right away when it comes to random votes, but that doesn't mean they can't be useful later. Now, people overreacting to random votes/refusing to answer questions and such is something that can be looked at early.

[quote=Parama]Yo bro I'm reaching for a reason not to random vote because I want to take the moral high ground now so I can lead later! [/quote]

This is bogus. I don't think he was "reaching" with that post, it looks like he was trying to start some real discussion and you're just yelling at him for it.

[quote=Parama]Yo bro I'm overreacting to a random vote but I have nothing better to do so hopefully this won't look like paranoia! [/quote]

Agreed.

[quote=Parama]Yo bro I haven't even posted acknowledging my presence in this game, I'm just going to be the lurkerscum of this game! [/quote]

Lurking isn't a scumtell unless it is a newb (or Nikanor hurhurhur).

Unvote,

vote kunkstar7.

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