Team Mafia: Pick Your Power (Game Over)

[zoraster]

They be WIFOMing

(Alive)

1. Faraday
   
2. Hoopla
   
   
   Poor Yoricked
   (Dead)
   Day 1:
   GreyICE the Town Jailkeeper was Lynched
   
   Night 1:
   Amrun the Town Gunsmith was killed
   
   Day 2:
   animorpherv1

   Super Smash Bros. Fan

   the Vanilla Townie was Lynched
   
   Night 2:
   RegFan

   Slaxx

   the Town Night 3 Vigilante was killed
   
   Night 2:
   SpyreX the Vanilla Townie was killed
   
   Day 3:
   Papa Zito the Mafia Second Night Vigilante was lynched
   
   Night 3:
   PranaDevil the Town Tracker was killed
   
   Day 4:
   Kise the Town Roleblocker was lynched
   
   Night 4 (Endgame):
   quadz08 the Vanilla Townie was endgame killed
   
   Night 5 (Endgame):
   Debonair Danny DiPietro the Vanilla Townie was endgame killed
   
   Day 6 (Endgame):
   Lady LambdaDelta the Vanilla Townie was endgame lynched
   
   
   
   Events
   
   Day 1 Begins
   Day 1 Ends/Day 2 Begins
   Day 2 Ends/Day 3 Begins
   Day 3 Ends/Day 4 Begins
   Day 4 Ends/Game Ends
   
   
   Spoiler: Draft Order

   1. Kise ( 2 , 2 )
      
   2. PranaDevil ( 3 , 1 )
      
   3. GreyICE ( 7 , 1 )
      
   4. quadz08 ( 8 , 13 )
      
   5. Hoopla ( 9 , 1 )
      
   6. Amrun ( 9 , 3 )
      
   7. Super Smash Bros. Fan ( 1 , 3 )
      
   8. Debonair Danny DiPietro ( 1 , 1 ) <--- Random Winner
      
   9. SpyreX ( 1 , 1 ) <--- Random Loser
      
   10. Lady LambdaDelta ( 6 , 2 )
       
   11. Papa Zito ( 6 , 9 )
       
   12. Faraday ( 6 , 1 ) <--- Random Winner
       
   13. Slaxx ( 6 , 1 ) <--- Random Loser

[zoraster]

Initial Role PMs:

Spoiler: Town

You are a member of the town. You win when your side is the only one left in the game or nothing can prevent it from happening.

You do not yet have a role. You must submit two numbers between 1-15 (X,Y) by PM to Zoraster by May 12th at 11:00am EDT. At this point, the draft order will be published, and you will submit the role you want to try for. The game itself will start May 15th.

For a more thorough discussion of the draft system, please click the spoiler below.

Spoiler: Draft System

The draft: Before the game proper starts, each player will PM me with two numbers, 1-15 (X,Y).

1. The lowest unique X number will get first pick. The next lowest unique X number will get second, etc.
2. After all unique X numbers are exhausted, all two-way X ties will have their Y numbers compared. The lowest unique Y number will get the next pick, the lowest Y number after that will get the next pick, etc.
3. After all two-way X ties with unique Y numbers are exhausted, the same is done with three way ties, then four way ties, etc.
4. Players with the same X and Y value will be ranked by the lowest X value then one will be picked to pick above the other randomly.

For example:
Player 1: 4,9
Player 2: 1,4
Player 3: 3,5
Player 4: 1,7
Player 5: 1,4
Player 6: 15,15
Player 7: 15,14

Would have the result of:
1st Pick: Player 3 (3,5)
2nd Pick: Player 4 (4,9)
3rd Pick: Player 7 (15,14)
4th Pick: Player 6 (15,15)
5th Pick: Player 4 (1,7)
6th Pick: Player 2 (1,4) <--- Random Winner
7th Pick: Player 5 (1,4) <--- Random loser

After everyone PMs me, the draft results will be published. At this point, every player must PM me with a role from the roles available they'd like to have. If someone above you picked the role, you will be vanilla.

The Roles:
Role Cop
Tracker
Jailkeeper
Goon Cop (sees if someone is a vanilla goon or not -- mafia with a PR will come up as "not goon")
3-Shot Roleblocker (not limited to just one shot a night)
Night 2 Vig
Night 3 Vig
Gunsmith (sees guns on all mafia plus Goon Cop, Role Cop, N2 Vig, N3 Vig)

Any role received by the mafia will be IN ADDITION TO their ability to kill. Thus, any mafia member may both kill AND use their role in any night.[/poiler]

Please note that the Mafia will have the ability to talk amongst themselves to coordinate their number picks.

You can find the game thread here and the general Team Mafia information thread here You are responsible for knowing the rules of BOTH.

Spoiler: Mafia

You are a member of the mafia. You win when your side is the only one left in the game or nothing can prevent it from happening. The three members of the mafia are XXX, YYY and ZZZ.

Your QT is at the following address: http://www.quicktopic.com/555/YYY/SCUMTASTICURL

NOTE: Please do not give your teammates the address to the quick topic. You may relay information back to them, but you may not link them to the actual QT.

Every night, one person from your team may attempt to kill another player. Anyone on your team may submit a kill. Please submit the person you are targeting and who is actually performing the kill. If you don’t indicate who is performing the kill, it will be assumed that the person PMing will. You may both use a role AND perform a kill in the same night, but the tracker will see that you visited two people.

You do not yet have a role. You must submit two numbers between 1-15 (X,Y) by PM to Zoraster by May 12th at 11:00am EDT. At this point, the draft order will be published, and you will submit the role you want to try for. The game itself will start May 15th.

For a more thorough discussion of the draft system, please click the spoiler below.

Spoiler: Draft System

The draft: Before the game proper starts, each player will PM me with two numbers, 1-15 (X,Y).

1. The lowest unique X number will get first pick. The next lowest unique X number will get second, etc.
2. After all unique X numbers are exhausted, all two-way X ties will have their Y numbers compared. The lowest unique Y number will get the next pick, the lowest Y number after that will get the next pick, etc.
3. After all two-way X ties with unique Y numbers are exhausted, the same is done with three way ties, then four way ties, etc.
4. Players with the same X and Y value will be ranked by the lowest X value then one will be picked to pick above the other randomly.

For example:
Player 1: 4,9
Player 2: 1,4
Player 3: 3,5
Player 4: 1,7
Player 5: 1,4
Player 6: 15,15
Player 7: 15,14

Would have the result of:
1st Pick: Player 3 (3,5)
2nd Pick: Player 4 (4,9)
3rd Pick: Player 7 (15,14)
4th Pick: Player 6 (15,15)
5th Pick: Player 4 (1,7)
6th Pick: Player 2 (1,4) <--- Random Winner
7th Pick: Player 5 (1,4) <--- Random loser

After everyone PMs me, the draft results will be published. At this point, every player must PM me with a role from the roles available they'd like to have. If someone above you picked the role, you will be vanilla.

The Roles:
Role Cop
Tracker
Jailkeeper
Goon Cop (sees if someone is a vanilla goon or not -- mafia with a PR will come up as "not goon")
3-Shot Roleblocker (not limited to just one shot a night)
Night 2 Vig
Night 3 Vig
Gunsmith (sees guns on all mafia plus Goon Cop, Role Cop, N2 Vig, N3 Vig)

Any role received by the mafia will be IN ADDITION TO their ability to kill. Thus, any mafia member may both kill AND use their role in any night.[/poiler]

You may coordinate your picks with the other members of the mafia starting now.

You can find the game thread here and the general Team Mafia information thread here You are responsible for knowing the rules of BOTH.

Note: Scum have day talk.

Spoiler: Possible Roles

Role Cop

Each night, you may submit a target to the mod. You will attempt to find out what, if any, role they possess. If they do not have a role, you will be told they do not have a role (for Vanilla Townies and Regular ol' goons). In no case will you get their alignment.

Tracker

Each night, you may submit a target to the mod. You will attempt to follow this player at night. You will be told who, if anyone, your target visited that night.

Jailkeeper

Each night, you may submit a target to the mod. You will attempt to jail this player for that night. They will be unable to use their role, and no other ability will be able to be used on them that night. In a RB vs. JK situation, the RB will win.

Goon Cop

Each night, you may submit a target to the mod. You will attempt to tell whether this player is a Mafia Goon. That is, he is both mafia and does not have a power. You will get either a "Goon" or "Not a Goon" result.

3-Shot Roleblocker

A total of three times during the game you may send a target to the mod. You will attempt to roleblock that player at night. You may use your roleblocks all in one night or over the course of multiple nights. In a RB vs. JK situation, the RB wins.

Night 2 Vigilante

On the second night, you may submit a target to attempt to kill.

Night 3 Vigilante

On the third night, you may submit a target to attempt to kill.

Gunsmith

Each night, you may submit a target to the mod. You will attempt to determine whether that player has a gun or not. You will see all mafia members as having a gun in addition to the Goon Cop, Role Cop, N2 Vig, and N3 Vig.

Vanilla

You failed to receive the role you requested. Therefore, you are either a Vanilla Townie or a Mafia Goon.

[zoraster]

Rules

PYP Specific Rules

Please see the post above for draft and role information.

1. This game, except as contradicted by the rules below, follows the Boilerplate Game Rules.

This includes only 50% needed for a No Lynch.

2. All votes must be made either in

Bold

or with the VOTE: tag.
3. All votes should be placed on a NEW line. If it is not on a new line, I am not responsible for including it.
4. Vote gambits may still be counted at the moderators discretion. I advise not attempting to play this game.
5. You may discuss as you wish during twilight. The game will be locked during night.
6.

Dead players are dead. Period. No Bah posts.

7. I will prod players when they have been inactive for more than 72 hours.
8. If the deadline is reached with no majority, there will be a no lynch.

Team Mafia General Rules

Please see the full rules list here. You are responsible for knowing all the rules.

The following are simply highlights to remind you.
2. The deadlines are 2 weeks each. If a lynch is reached before 2 weeks is up, the remainder will be "banked," up to 7 real days. You may use the banked real days in future game days to extend the deadline.
3. No discussing outside games, including the other Team Mafia games.
4. You may discuss the team make-ups of the other teams and consider the choices each team would make, but you may not reference the goings-on of any of the other games.
5. Replacements for players who have not posted for seven real days in which they could have posted (i.e. not night) will be replaced by the moderators at a penalty to their team. Except under extreme circumstances, replacements will not otherwise be sought.

Please do not ask or expect the moderator to do so.

6. Deadlines for night are 48 hours unless the deadline falls on a weekend, in which case it will fall at 11:00am EDT on Monday.

Basic Point Information for this game:
25 points to scum if scum has at least two players alive at the end of the game.
23 points to scum if scum wins but only has one player alive at the end of the game.
23 points to town if town wins but has three or fewer players alive at the end of the game.
25 points to town if town wins and has four or more players alive at the end of the game.

[zoraster]

All Role PMs are out.

[zoraster]

Day 1 Begins Now!

Day 1 Vote Count

Amrun ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Debonair Danny DiPietro ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Faraday ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

GreyICE ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Hoopla ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Kise ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Lady LambdaDelta ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Papa Zito ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

PranaDevil ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

quadz08 ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Slaxx ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

SpyreX ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Super Smash Bros. Fan ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

No Lynch ( 0 )

(L - 7 )

Not Voting ( 13 ) Amrun, Debonair Danny DiPietro, Faraday GreyICE, Hoopla, Kise, Lady LambdaDelta, Papa Zito, PranaDevil, quadz08, Slaxx, SpyreX, Super Smash Bros. Fan,
Total Votes ( 13 )

Deadline: May 29th at 11:00 EDT
0 Days Banked
With 13 able to vote, 7 needed to lynch.

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

Vote: PranaDevil

It's the Grim Reaper mouse pet! Run for your lives before he takes us all!

[Papa Zito]

VOTE: GreyICE

Because this is going to happen anyway.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: Kise

For being first in the draft.

[GreyICE]

Six was the most commonly selected number last draft.

Ergo, scum decided to double pick six on the logic that in no PYP game ever have scum doubled up on numbers. They got outwitted by two townies picking six as well. Therefore 2/4 6 picks are scum.

Vote: LadyLambdadelta

Start at the top, work your way down.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Six was the most commonly selected number last draft.

Ergo, scum decided to double pick six on the logic that in no PYP game ever have scum doubled up on numbers. They got outwitted by two townies picking six as well. Therefore 2/4 6 picks are scum.

Vote: LadyLambdadelta

Start at the top, work your way down.

This is terribad logic.

Scum would both pick the same number, and sabotage their ability to gain powers?

Which is tantamount to handing over powers to the town?

Ya, no. Please insert another coin and try again.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, in the mafia PM we are given in the second post of the game, it confirms there are only 3 mafia.

So you're saying that 2/3 of the mafia in this game would BOTH pick 6, putting themselves further down the draft order?

With the potential of town ALSO picking 6, which is something you yourself suggested?

So you are suggesting that 2 scum deliberately removed themselves from being able to get powers, just for WIFOM?

Leaving only 1 scum potentially with power?

[SpyreX]

Spoiler: PYP 1

Cobalt (3,4)

Elvis_Knits (6,15)

Cop

Vi (12,6)
Chamber (14,15)

StrangerCoug (4,7)

BP

Faraday (4,12)

Xylthym (8,1)

Cop

Budja (8,7)

Tracker

Cruciare (11,1)

Cop

Seacore (11,8)
TonyMontana (5,8)
BloodCovenant (5,13)
DrippingGoofball (5,15)
SerialClergyman (9,1)
FishytheFish (9,2)
Vaya (9,7)
Farside22 (9,10)
Benmage (2,3)
Pomegranate (2,7)

Devotress (2,11)

Driver

Plum (2,8) - Random WINNER!

Empowerer

Dramonic (2,8) Random LOSER!

Spoiler: Scum

Scum 1:
6,15
8,7
2,8

Scum 2:
8,1
11,1
2,11

Spoiler: PYP 2

Socrates (12,1)

Cop

Fate (13,4)
bouncy.bouncy (2,1)
Cobalt (2,10)
RayFrost (4,6)
Redcoyote (4,9)

Jack (7,2)

Vig

FeFiFoFum (7,11)
StrangerCoug (3,1)

The1fifi (3,7)

Vengeful

wolframnhart (3,7)
Devotress (8,3)
Porkens (8,9)
DocPotter (8,10)
Ellibereth (1,2)
Dramonic (1,1)

Hoopla (1,1)

Governor

TonyMontana (1,1)
Farside (6,3)
curiouskarmadog (6,12)
Pomegranate (6,4)

Faraday (6,4)

Empowerer

Spoiler: Scum

Scum:
12,1
7,2
3,7
1,1
6,4

Spoiler: PYP 3

2,12 sorasgoof

ENVig

10,1 Pomegranate
11,7 Sando

12,3 Porkens

ONVig

13,7 Dramonic

Backup

1,1 SerialClergyman
1,1 manho
3,6 Socrates
3,6 Zoiaum

5,4 Ellibereth

Neighborizer

5,15 Drippinggoofball
6,1 superawesomemegapimp
6,2 Budja
7,3 Fate
7,11 Parama
4,5 PranaDevil
4,7 CryMeARiver

4,8 12keyblade

Jailkeeper

9,2 Zang
9,4 Faraday
9,9 Hoopla
9,15 mb53

Spoiler: scum

Scum:
2,12
12,3
13,7
5,4
4,8

Spoiler: PYP 4:

Guderian 1,1
Volkan 2,6
chkflip 9,5

Zodiark13 12,1

Vanilla

Benmage 3,4

slowsilver 3,5

Jailkeeper

Ellibereth 5,1

Neighborizer

Rabies 5,7
Hoopla 10,1
Le Cupcake 10,6

Jack 11,1

3-Shot RB

xvart 11,7
Fate 13,1
PranaDevil 13,10
llamafluff 8,1
Parama 8,5
inHimshallibe 8,7

Drippinggoofball 6,10

Weak Doctor

iamausername 6,11
Andrius 6,1 <--- Random WINNER
Sajin 6,1 <--- Random Loser
Pomegranate 6,1 <--- Random Double Loser!

Spoiler: scum

Scum:
12,1
3,5
5,1
6,10
11,1

Spoiler: PYP 5:

Kise ( 2 , 2 )
PranaDevil ( 3 , 1 )
GreyICE ( 7 , 1 )
quadz08 ( 8 , 13 )
Hoopla ( 9 , 1 )
Amrun ( 9 , 3 )
Super Smash Bros. Fan ( 1 , 3 )
Debonair Danny DiPietro ( 1 , 1 ) <--- Random Winner
SpyreX ( 1 , 1 ) <--- Random Loser
Lady LambdaDelta ( 6 , 2 )
Papa Zito ( 6 , 9 )
Faraday ( 6 , 1 ) <--- Random Winner
Slaxx ( 6 , 1 ) <--- Random Loser

Small sample size yea yea:
1.) Scum have never, ever doubled up. This leads to:
2.) Scum have been in the top 4 every game.
3.) Scum prefer sweet delicious roles (Cop, Vigs, Jailers).
4.) Getting to actually play is kinda awesome.

Now, with this mix of roles I doubt #1 changed. Mostly because of the combination of Goon Cop + Sweet Delicious Vigs. If that is the case, the chances of #2 being changed is minimal.

So, lets remember this (I THOUGHT about massclaim to play true shenanigan ball but I'm on the fence).

That said:
AT LEAST 1 scum in: Kise, Prana, GI, Quadz.
Probably exactly 1 scum: LLD, Zito, Farada, Slaxx
It'd be awesome if the mystical scum is in: SSBF, DDD / Hoop, Amrun

I've got more predicitions and hypothesi' but someone and they know who they are I need to comment on this immediately.
Yea, thats right. No RVS. No shenanigans.

The game starts here. I plan to win.

[Papa Zito]

oh god the numbers already

[SpyreX]

Ohhh and:

Vote: GI

Even IF you were going to say scum doubled up for WIFOM which is of far less value than actually getting PR's - why would you have went for LLD instead of the obvious Faraday / Slaxx 6,1 team double up "scum would never do that" WIFOM?

[Amrun]

Just to clarify, Danny Dipietro and Spyrex cannot be both scum. The same is true for faraday and slaxx.

Unlike Grey, I don't think scum would pick the same numbers on purpose.

Assuming this, then only one or less players in these following groups can be scum.

Hoopla
Amrun

Super Smash Bros. Fan
Debonair Danny DiPietro
Spyrex

Lady LambdaDelta
Papa Zito
Faraday
Slaxx


Similar but slightly different to Papa Zito's list.

[Faraday]

Vote GreyIce

Prana or Kise are a buddy.

[SpyreX]

Zito's list?

ZITO's?

Why I never.
-----

2/3 in the top 4 Fara?

[Amrun]

>.> SpyreX's list. My bad.

Anyway, here's another list I've compiled including everyone and not just those picking non-unique numbers.

Kise

PranaDevil

GreyICE

quadz08

Hoopla
Amrun

Super Smash Bros. Fan
Debonair Danny DiPietro
Spyrex

Lady LambdaDelta
Papa Zito
Faraday
Slaxx

[Faraday]

Zito's list?

ZITO's?

Why I never.
-----

2/3 in the top 4 Fara?

Grey is attacking the lower end of the draft for a reason. So I think there's probably a scumbuddy above him.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That's great Amrun.

Who's scum?

[SpyreX]

I could see it but too delicious. To IN YO FACE, if you were.

I still am floored by the "6's scum therefore not the doubleup" though

[Faraday]

I've learned lately sometimes the obvious answer is correct. /emo. And that's all I gotta say about that.

[Amrun]

LLD, I don't know yet as the game just started.

GreyICE is acting oddly, though.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

[quote="Faraday"]I've learned lately sometimes the obvious answer is correct. /emo. And that's all I gotta say about that.[/quote

Occam's razor is equivalent to WIFOM in mafia.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

EBWOP: And so the tag fail begins. Can you fix that Zora? Arigatou Gozaimasu