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Post Post #2400 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:04 pm

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Klazams BP element of his role fits even more with blue-scum, them having no night kill and having a BP vest and daykill would add up. Want to know what abilities of TSO's he's used every night - why he took that specific one at the time and what he used it for, sorry if it's already been stated but other than the busdrive one I don't remember claim-age or use-age of any of them.

TSO, can you now explain why you removed Who from your lynch pile when you had the sole vote for me, that's my primary concern with you since if I'm right and blue don't have a kill and you'd have known he's mafia you'd have wanted to keep him alive which is what you did.

In post 2390, Klazam wrote:I took it bfore, also, i busdrove sm and tso thinking tso was most likely scum.

I didnt post anything posthammer be ause i was busy and i didnt disagree witht he hammer at all.

Issue I have with the bolded is Who was p much confscum to me and even I had worries, paranoia ect. from his posts post-hammer, I'd expect some reaction either anger, disappointment, confusion, something (For instance TSO's feels natural in that regard) whereas you had none of that.

Also why'd you busdrive TSO / SM when I publicly stated I was giving SM an extra vote, you'd have known that'd go to TSO, no?
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Post Post #2401 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:07 pm

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In post 2399, My Milked Eek wrote:
I'm not asking about his claim. More like regfan's.
And not sure if gaiden claimed his role pm yet.


P sure I've already posted it but here it is, I'm effectively a VT now though as all 4 powers are used:

Nikanor wrote:Hello Bitmap, and welcome to Mini 1605! Today you will be playing the part of a very average middle-class programmer who has no idea how he got caught up in all of this. While it would be tempting to blame it on Steve from accounting, you know that it was most likely that bastard Dwight. The guy's been after your job from the beginning, and if you ever get out of here, you're going to file a very nasty complaint to HR.

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-Rage Against The Machine (1):
You may program the machine to count your vote twice. You will have two separate votes tomorrow (colour the secondary vote blue). This will raise the lynch threshold, if applicable. You may only use this action once. This action resolves in the night phase.
-Aren't You A Minor? (1):
You may program the machine to count your vote twice, and ignore the vote of another person. You will have two separate votes tomorrow (colour the secondary vote blue), and your target will not be able to vote. You may only use this action once. This action resolves in the night phase.
-We're Classist Now (1):
You may program the machine to count one person's vote twice, and ignore the vote of another person. Your first target will have two separate votes tomorrow (they will be told to colour the secondary vote blue), and your second target will not be able to vote. You may only use this action once. This action resolves in the night phase.
-Russian Democracy (1):
You may program the machine to count only the vote of one person that you choose. Your target will be the sole decider of tomorrow's lynch. You may only use this action once. This action resolves in the night phase.

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-Town Win Condition:
You win when your team is the only team remaining.
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Post Post #2402 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:10 pm

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Yeah, I remember now. A bit tired, sorry.
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Post Post #2403 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:12 pm

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Klazam, how could you have possibly thought the bottom was a slip? You'd have received the EXACT same bottom thing due to TSO wouldn't you? So you should have instantly known that he wasn't talking about his own PM at the time by rather TSO's ability.

In post 1757, Klazam wrote:
In post 1541, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Okay, so here's my role. Fairly non-alignment indicative so I don't think it would change anything. I still think I'm the best lynch today. At least it'll help Regfan re-evaluate his reads with me flipped, otherwise it'll just be a huge distraction. Not self-voting so hammer away whenever. Also, if I'm interpreting Feirei's role correctly, I should still be here as a treestump and I think my thoughts as confirmed town would be useful and I may be able to get to them in the future once RL stuff improves.

Greetings zMuffinMan, and welcome to Mini 1605! Today you will be playing the part of something you might find on a Whose Line Is It Anyway? Dating Show game. Despite (or perhaps because of) your race and personality, you've managed to find a rather good job as a doorman, where your off-putting looks and demeanor can be put to use deterring intrusion. As a bonus, it also gives you plenty of spare time to catch up on your favourite gentleman's magazine, Penthousefly.

You are an Unintentionally-Caustic Hypochondriac Part-Human-Part-Tyrannosaurus-Rex-Part-Common-Housefly Concierge Who Secretly Watches Pornography On The Job. For the purposes of this game, you've decided to limit yourself to being a Shared Selective Ascetic.

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-You're Not On The List: Despite being, erm, preoccupied, you're still very good at your job. Below is a list of all of the possible non-kill actions in this game. Sort them into two categories: allow and disallow. For as long as you live, you and a player of your choice will be immune to actions listed in the disallow category. Note that for combined actions, such as jailkeep, the entire action will fail if one half is disallowed. You may update this list and your partner as many times as you like, and whenever you like. The possible actions are: absorb, asceticize, attract, autopsy, block, bus, copy, delay, destiny bond (cupid), eavesdrop, frame, gift, govern, hide, inspect (cop), inspect (name cop), inspect (role cop), message, motivate, neighborize, protect, redirect, resurrect, steal, tailor, track, treestump, vanillize, watch (voyeur), watch (watcher).

Factional Abilities
-Town Win Condition: You win when your team is the only team remaining.


This is not

St Constantine the Hermit wrote:Okay, here are the powers I can choose from tommorow.
I wont reveal which one I took last night...
-attract (redirect a player's action to yourself)
-bus (swap two players, anyone targeting the first will instead target the other and vice versa)
-commute (become untargetable)
-coroner (see a dead player's non-factional abilities)
-coroner (see a dead player's non-factional abilities)
-protect (block one kill against the target)
-voyeur (see if a player used an action)
-voyeur (see if a player used an action)


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Post Post #2404 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:15 pm

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So, klaz bus drove tso <-> sm.
Regfan targeted gaiden (-1 vote) and sm (double)?
I also targeted somebody last night.

Regfan, why did you pick gaiden to havehis voted ignored and why not klaz/tso?
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Post Post #2405 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:17 pm

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regfan, about 2403:


Natirasha
JasonWazza
Who
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My Milked Eek (The Bulge)
Anatole Kuragin (Desperado)
T S O
St Constantine the Hermit (F-16_Fighting_Falcon) (zMuffinMan)
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Regfan (Bitmap)
Feirei (Jakuzure Nonon)

klaz and f16 could never have gotten the item pm at the same time.
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Post Post #2406 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:20 pm

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Ah. So this is a case of TSO making a mistake / misreading the list? Or is there more involved:

In post 548, T S O wrote:Hey Klazam, what did you use last night?

More to the point, did you enjoy choosing?


In post 2404, My Milked Eek wrote:Regfan, why did you pick gaiden to havehis voted ignored and why not klaz/tso?

Didn't do setup spec / rereading / interaction reading until the day started - otherwise probably would have selected Klazam.

Picked Gaiden over TSO because I figured regardless of alignment if TSO didn't have a vote today he'd probably just prod-dodge and do absolutely nothing which would make it near impossible to get a stronger read on him, was hoping with a vote he'd be more readable and more willing to actually converse and explain things whereas I don't think I'm ever going to make much of Gaidens votes and reasoning behind it ever.
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Post Post #2407 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:22 pm

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I'm not certain if tso can view what we pick from his list.

I know we can view what the other picked because the list gets shorter (and you know what you picked).

I'm just wondering what the fuck the two coroner abilities are for...
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Post Post #2408 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:25 pm

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Was more referring to TSO believing Klazam had something from him D2 when St Const was still alive.

And I'm guessing the coroner abilities are to either a) Understand flipped scums roles more or b) Check flipped unclaimed towns roles to help setup understanding?
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Post Post #2409 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:28 pm

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Wait.


Two bp roles?
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Post Post #2410 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:30 pm

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Yep. Which is why I think Klazams BP claim fits so much better as blue scum.
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Post Post #2411 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:34 pm

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In post 2391, Klazam wrote:

You are
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-The Super Bowl (1, Anytime):
You have in your possession the Golgothian Sylex. You may use it to kill a player. Doing so will activate your passive ability. You may only use this action once. This action resolves in the day, twilight or night phases.

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-Talking Head (Inactive):
Using the Sylex has made you incredibly hard to kill. You are now immune to kills. You can still be lynched.


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-Town Win Condition:
You win when your team is the only team remaining.


Why's the passive greyish?
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Post Post #2412 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:39 pm

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It's activated after using the active ability apparently.
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Post Post #2413 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:44 pm

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In post 2412, My Milked Eek wrote:It's activated after using the active ability apparently.

Sorry if this sound stupid but run me through that? Is it once he uses the kill he THEN gains BP status? If so why does it say "Inactive"?
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Post Post #2414 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:46 pm

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I dont see any way for me to win this- no matter what, even if i managed to get gaiden, tso lynched, you still emd up with regfan and mme who cant be bluescum, along with conftown in sorceror. so i have to concede this game. I was genuinely suprised that who was scum. Was hoping that it was mme who was scum...

Well played town.

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Post Post #2415 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:46 pm

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Vote: Klazam


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Post Post #2416 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:47 pm

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Whoa

Vote: klaz
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Post Post #2417 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:48 pm

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Feels good that this game is over, it lasted way too long and I never felt fully comfortable with my reads / position in it.
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Post Post #2418 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:48 pm

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I just need to say, klaz, you played awesomely good. If it weren't for who being a key role in confirming a lot of players, I guess you would've won.
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Post Post #2419 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:49 pm

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I dont know if this counts as bad play on my part, but i'd prefer the game be over now than dragging it out if i legit have no way to win.

Im so pissed about the hermit's replacing in- fucked up my diverting the lynch from f16 so bad.

Being scum without a kill really sucks though lol
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Post Post #2420 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:50 pm

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Have to agree with that, if it wasn't for interaction stuff (Largely with F-16/St Const) and setup speculation I don't know if I'd have got you. Well PoE might have been the only way but I'd have ended up lynching Gaiden or someone first surely.
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Post Post #2421 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:50 pm

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So should i have kept on fighting for the hermit not to be lynched, even if he kept on hardcore slipping shit?
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Post Post #2422 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:51 pm

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In post 2419, Klazam wrote:I dont know if this counts as bad play on my part, but i'd prefer the game be over now than dragging it out if i legit have no way to win.

Im so pissed about the hermit's replacing in- fucked up my diverting the lynch from f16 so bad.

Being scum without a kill really sucks though lol


Not bad play, you couldn't win from here, wasn't possible + we were likely lynching you today anyway, you just sped it up and make sure we didn't waste time which is appreciated. Funnily enough I considered blue scum not having a kill much much earlier in the game but it was you that convinced it wasn't the case.
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Post Post #2423 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:52 pm

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Well when we thought this was a single scum team you were p much clear so I'd have kept that hidden as long as possible, even if it means ignoring slips.
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Post Post #2424 (ISO) » Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:53 pm

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I had it all worked out, an explantion why scum could still have 2 nightkills, between my bulletproofness, muffin's doc, and mme's commute, and even who's roleblock. Hinged on mme not asking for sanity issues though.

Pedit: i guess, but i was afraid that given how bad hermit was foing, that if i threw everything in chainsawing for him, interactions would clearly connect me with him postflip
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