Mini 1644: DOUBLE TROUBLE (Day 5) - IS THE GAME OVER YET?!?


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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:37 pm

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That's basically why I haven't been responding to anything lately, nothing has triggered my interest.
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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:21 pm

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In post 947, Cursive wrote:Aneninen did ya result specifically say no one visited?

or was it just a no result?

(no result points to something like commuter role, im thinkin)


It said Noone visited.
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:07 am

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In post 945, Aneninen wrote:It's Ockham's Razor.
Which one is more likely?
(1) Cursive is lying about his Night Action
(2) There is someone who fake-claimed or a dead player blocked his shot.

Cursive, stop spreading pigeon poop, please. You're scum. I know it and you know that I know it. Still, because I can't lynch you, I'll ask you: what do you think we should do now?

DasBoot: why need I believe that you're town?

If INAUFTA is Full-Bulletproof scum it's over for the town. I've already explained it. Even if we lynch him Cursive wins. If we lynch Cursive, INAUFTA wins.

By the way, I can make up silly things too.

VOTE: Sukeena
What if we have a player in this game with that name and her scum-PR is to lurk all the time?
She must be scum!

While I understand that it is much easier to say Cursive is lying, if Cursive is scum we need to find something accountable for a second kill in some of the nights. INAUFTA's claim of being 1-shot makes less sense to me because there were quite a few missing kills; and with all the power in the game, I think scum are bound to be few but powerful. being multi-BP + more powers(rolecop/roleblock/ninja/dunno) just makes sense.

And read my post again. if Cursive had claimed to have not shot tonight - what would happen? it would be a mylo, in which there are 4 people equally likely to be the lynch. On the other hand, him being scum and lying his way into a 1v1 with inaufta is sort of...much worse?

INAUFTA slid under my radar through the entire game. like, honestly, I don't remember anything at all that he did or said all game - nothing significant. nothing that catches your eye and makes you focus on her. always under the radar. if it's a 1v1 between cursive and INAUFTA - I pick inaufta.

Then, you "CC" Cursive, claiming to have *recieved result* that nobody targetted him. that is a direct CC, practically. If you were scum, why would you say that? let cursive and INAUFTA 1v1 and win. this easy. So you are town.

..
so that is why I am ready to
VOTE: INAUFTA.

Why believe I'm town? I dunno. why not? lol. Cursive's post 937, quoting H&T, is something that made me say *damn*. If I were town, that'd influence me greatly.

And you're trying to work with a theory that we're already done with. if we are, there's no use in trying to outthink this. so just assume we aren't, and there's only one scum.

and I have no idea wtf you want with that vote lol
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:09 am

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Now I can see clearly, I think.

The most probable explanation for this situation is this: INAUFTA is Bulletproof SK, both Cursive and Das Boot are Mafia. Everything else about false flips, dead-player actions, strange PRs are simply pigeon poop.

In this case I'm the kingmaker. If I vote for INAUFTA, Mafia wins. If I do anything else, SK wins. [I can't get a Mafia lynched, after a self lynch INAUFTA can't be killed at Night but he reaches a 1:1 by Tomorrow. After a No Lynch, INAUFTA kills a Mafia, the Mafia kills me (it's 1:1 again) or lets me alive (it's 1:1:1 but it's the same situation Tomorrow, because they can't crosskill).]

Shos, in theory, how many votes are needed for a Mafia/SK joint win?
. Assuming that I'm right now, I simply refuse to give the game to either faction. Fair play or whatever it's called.


I also know that I'm still alive only because I'm clearly the least clever player on the list. Wellshyt, I've learnt a lot at least.
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:27 am

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Good news I'm not hated, you can still remove your votes!

and if it was somehow the case (what Aneninen just said), shos won't be answering that question.
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:30 am

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In a 1v1 between a Serial Killer and a Groupscum, the Serial Killer automatically wins.


To make it clearer: There can not ever be a joint SK-Groupscum win.
Last edited by shos on Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:37 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:32 am

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In post 952, Das Boot wrote:if it's a 1v1 between cursive and INAUFTA - I pick inaufta.

I'm not going after Cursive, this is no where near a 1v1.

Well maybe I would have been on the assumption Aneninen didn't say Cursive's action didn't occur, but it's proven he can kill, so it makes no sense. I think you hiding extra abilities as a JOAT still makes the most sense out of anything at this point, I don't know why you would have done it. I think you actually mostly got away without actually doing anything because you were posting the claims table - which when I come back and think about thinks, that's all I have in my mind on you.

(Aneninen is a post Day 1, and Cursive is confirm person with a gun. So it's not like I've trying relooking over stuff every hard)

VOTE: Das Boot
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:16 am

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Okay, this is my last question.

Can I still win this game? If so, explain how!

After all of you have answered I'll decide what to do so as to end this game. Okay?
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:26 am

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The mod hasn't ended the game yet, so it must technically still be possible to win. (it is possible to win a king maker, by electing no king and getting cross kills)

My bet is inventing time travel and going back to day 2 and then getting the three of us all lynched in a row.
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:22 am

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In post 956, INAUFTA wrote:I think you actually mostly got away without actually doing anything because you were posting the claims table

This is a super duper point, Boot.

And I still have doubts bout H&T play

in case it isn't obv Im now pitting u2 against each other see which is scummier

In post 957, Aneninen wrote:Can I still win this game? If so, explain how!
Trust dat Im town. Cuz I am town! Believe!


In post 958, INAUFTA wrote:(it is possible to win a king maker, by electing no king and getting cross kills)

not if he thinks 2 Maf and 1 SK: needs to lynch 1 Maf and hope Sk doesn't have bulletproof
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:28 am

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2:1:1 should be a mafia win, if it is that case, then my hated theory can be the only thing left stopping the game from having ended.
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:30 am

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Mobilepost.
And INAUFTAs latest post about kingmaking just confirms that he's scum.

Unless Cursive is town I have literally no chance.

So

VOTE: Inaufta

I would't be able to lynch Cursive anyway.

And I know that I'm an idiot.
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:46 am

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Official Votecount #3 - Day 5 - FINAL

FOUR ALIVE - THREE VOTES FOR LYNCH

  • Aneninen: (0)


  • INAUFTA: (3) - LYNCH!!

    Cursive, Das Boot, Aneninen.
  • Das Boot: (1)

    INAUFTA.
  • Cursive: (0)





  • No Lynch: (0)


  • Not Voting: (0)



Deadline was in (expired on 2015-04-08 00:39:11).


Notes:

INAUFTA has been lynched.

*drums*
Spoiler: Flip
Soon, lol. Adding some tension.
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:51 am

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INAUFTA was a
TOWN
Bulletproof Townie.

At night, another townie would die and...










The game is over.
The scum team of
Das Boot and Vertigo
have won!

Now let me explain the fuck out of this game :)
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:54 am

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*sigh*
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:56 am

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gg to all those involved
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:01 am

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Mod topic:
http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/Q9FM2d5Q33CG
Neighbourhood:
http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/GqWJrSSQa2w
Dead thread:
http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/DK4hbSx7jttQ

Comments:
As you guys can see in the mod topic, I was controlling both scum accounts. This was basically a me vs the world game.
As the mod, I knew everything that was happening; so I had to make town super duper strong for this to work.
I gave town a bunchload of PRs, with an executive decision to not lie to players at all, and reduced the scum team to only 2 players vs 11 townies.

In hindisght, I think that I should have given myself a limitation on the roleblocking ability, because it was really strong in combo with knowing what everyone does. Also, I almost made big mod errrors, but only almost, so that's ok lol x)
I was really nervous all this game, and I kinda can't believe how this D5 mylo played out. The death miller was fucked up - shouldn't have used that, I think.

Can you all comment on the setup? the idea? how I played as {Vertigo, HeadsAndTails, Das Boot}?
The choice to replace out (lol!) was very funny to me.

I think that this alts-only idea was bad. It made the game slow and LOADS OF PRODS were sent, and this affected the game.. :/
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:04 am

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as a player and as a mod, I have to say that everyone played REALLY good this game.
You lynched scum D1, and you all made good decisions with your roles. The only thing I don't quite get is why Kagamine decided to fakeclaim a cop result after being blocked.
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:11 am

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ah I had feeling I should've played it safe and unvoted inaufta

death miller wasn't too bad

it did put me in a huge funk tho seeing vertigo flip town :facepalm: and then seeing town pr after town pr flip

Yea you played H&T pretty well better than das boot I think and definitely better than vertigo
I'd have a tough time figuring out those player we're the same people
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:19 am

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So essentially if someone wised up to it at all, we could have started noticing that Shos, Das Boot, and Vertigo were never online at the same time?
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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:22 am

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Or can you log in from different accounts at the same time on this website?
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:23 am

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Shos, were you the one who suggested lynching the MOD?
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:27 am

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i hate yuou shos
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:27 am

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your boot is a jerk.
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:29 am

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H&T slot should gave instalynched when game wasn't over in 4p MyLo
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