Mini 1696: SPACE DANDY MAFIA, GAME OVER

Antihero · Post Post #1700 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:06 pm

no more varsoon games for me

Klingoncelt · Post Post #1701 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:07 pm

Know what sucks? I knew last night that Firebringer and Xtoxm were Scum.

Giving the dance power to Zakk and all the extra votes to Xtoxi unbalanced it.

Klingoncelt · Post Post #1702 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:07 pm

In post 1700, Antihero wrote:no more varsoon games for me

No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Varsoon's a good guy, honest!!!!!!!!!

Antihero · Post Post #1703 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:08 pm

he might be, but this setup was a fucking bomb. this game was over before it started.

seriously, if you could find a scumteam that would lose w/ power like that, i would be impressed.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1704 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:08 pm

In post 1697, Klingoncelt wrote:Damn, Xtoxi, you really, really, super really wanted me dead! Wow!

<3

Varsoon · Post Post #1705 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:20 pm

Anti, are you not looking at the town powers?
Let's say Xtoxm comes out with his super-lynch on Elbirn.
Elbirn survives and Xtoxm is insta-gibbed for it.
Okay, then let's say Xtoxm does the same thing on Skullduggery.
Skull then venge-kills Xtoxm.

This game was advertised as a bastard game.
There were extremely powerful roles on both sides.
I'm almost certain that if town swept this game in the first two days (town could get a win in single day in this setup, actually), then I'm sure scum would be adamant about it being unbalanced, too.

If you're looking for less swing, less absurd role interactions, and a guaranteed 'safe'/balanced setup, look forward to my non-bastard games.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1706 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:21 pm

VARSOON

neighbor PTs

Varsoon · Post Post #1707 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:29 pm

Not all the neighbors have signed off on saying that it's cool to share what they've said there.
I'm only going to share them if every neighbor says that it is okay to share it.
There are several players who prefer to keep their things-said-in-PT-confidence to stay 'secret'--just tryin' to respect that.

Antihero · Post Post #1708 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:31 pm

In post 1705, Varsoon wrote:Anti, are you not looking at the town powers?

oh

yeah

THE ONES THAT COULDN'T BE USED BECAUSE OF THE MASS ROLEBLOCKING

IT WAS A SICK JOKE ALL ALONG

JFKLDSAJASJ;JE;ASJFJEAJF;OWAJF

Antihero · Post Post #1709 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:32 pm

In post 1705, Varsoon wrote:I'm almost certain that if town swept this game in the first two days (town could get a win in single day in this setup, actually), then I'm sure scum would be adamant about it being unbalanced, too.

yeah, except for the fact SCUM DIDN'T "SWEEP" US. WE GOT A SCUM LYNCH ON DAY 1 AND STILL LOST AS IF WE DIDN'T.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1710 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:38 pm

In post 1707, Varsoon wrote:Not all the neighbors have signed off on saying that it's cool to share what they've said there.
I'm only going to share them if every neighbor says that it is okay to share it.
There are several players who prefer to keep their things-said-in-PT-confidence to stay 'secret'--just tryin' to respect that.

>_>

the hoods are so large it's unlikely they're going to all check in and sign off

Varsoon · Post Post #1711 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:43 pm

There were a lot of factors that could've totally destroyed the scum win in the context of what happened in this game.
Yukari claimed their commute, making it useless. If they would have claimed something that would draw a kill, Xtoxm might have killed Yukari on Night 1 or 3 and wasted his kill. On N3, that would essentially have ended him.
He also had no way of knowing of Elbirn's invincibility.
If both those factors were blind, he would've had a large chance of missing his kill on N3 and being turbo-lynched by town for that triple-vote hammer.

Town simply did not play smartly. Zakk blocked several town powers. (Adelie) did not disable Xtoxm immediately when Alchemist revealed they had a 4-power result on him. There were lots of ways town could've shut down Xtoxm, but instead of putting heads together, they didn't make full use of their roles to the best benefit of town.

<3
I'm glad you're so impassioned about this, but it's really not such a terrible thing. Swingy, yes. Absolutely town-or-scum-sided? Ehh, I think not. Pokerface was sweating hardcore in the dead thread the whole game, and I had to constantly reassure him that his team still could pull a win.

Varsoon · Post Post #1712 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:44 pm

I'm sorry, Xtoxm. I'd rather err on the side of my player's 'rights'.

Xtoxm · Post Post #1713 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:46 pm

can you at least PM everyone to ask for sign off reply

Varsoon · Post Post #1714 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:47 pm

For sure <3

Oversoul · Post Post #1715 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:49 pm

Varsoon, Alchemist never got the chance to tell the full power of Xtoxm.

Antihero · Post Post #1716 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:49 pm

shakes

fists

just let me be mad, varsoon

Oversoul · Post Post #1717 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:50 pm

Antihero wading this game?

Varsoon · Post Post #1718 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:52 pm

I <3 your anger, though!

Alchemist only ever got results in numbers of powers.
The fact that Xtoxm claimed less than 4 powers in the thread and Alchemist said, "Woah woah woah, no, that dude has 4 abilities, which could include PT access and an NK' should have been a ping for everyone.

Antihero · Post Post #1719 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:52 pm

In post 1717, Oversoul wrote:Antihero wading this game?

hi

i'm half of heartless

Varsoon · Post Post #1720 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:53 pm

THE HEARTLESS HALF
DOHOHOHOHO

Oversoul · Post Post #1721 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:41 pm

In post 1719, Antihero wrote:
In post 1717, Oversoul wrote:Antihero wading this game?

hi

i'm half of heartless

Fail. I knew that. Forgot you guys died Night 1.

Oversoul · Post Post #1722 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:44 pm

Alchemist never outright claimed the result he got on Xtoxm.

If he had I would have used my ability and immediately called for his lynch.

Klingoncelt · Post Post #1723 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:43 pm

In post 1703, Antihero wrote:he might be, but this setup was a fucking bomb. this game was over before it started.

seriously, if you could find a scumteam that would lose w/ power like that, i would be impressed.

I can link you to a game on another site that lasted not quite 3 pages.

Unbalanced happens in a lot of games once they get going, bastard or normal. It all depends on who gets killed early on, and the lynches & kills depend on how clever the players are.

So we lost this game big time. I'll get over it. The flavor was awesome, the players were cool, I'd love to do this again.

Yukari · Post Post #1724 (ISO) » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:13 pm

Perhaps should have massclaimed sooner?