⅋ - THE WICK WAS TURNED DOWN. THE FLUTE WAS BLOWN INTO.

Quilford · Post Post #400 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:53 am

In post 396, Bicephalous Bob wrote:When no druids claim, this game is clearly mafia

Yeah this. There's really nothing broken about the setup at all, contrary to discussion during the game. Frozen Angel just got really really lucky playing (or getting tricked into playing) the suboptimal strategy of claiming Day 1 in the hopes that the Mage would be lynched. I don't see how this game played out as likely to be repeated.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #401 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:58 am

See mage should have been lynched in first two days. or both druids - Romans would have been lost

best play was this : A druid claim and see others reaction about it. I caught Nosferato and Vonflare day 1. plus I must add I really had a bad feeling about Guilty since day 1 ...

GuiltyLion · Post Post #402 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:19 am

You called me "brutal, but town"

That and getting Sakura to vote Not Mafia at the end, gonna take those as my main accomplishments this game

Frozen Angel · Post Post #403 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:20 am

yeah! Brutal

Frozen Angel · Post Post #404 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:20 am

But I got a very weird sense from you! I was sure its not a mage sense ...

hard to explain my feelings!

Aristophanes · Post Post #405 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:26 am

In post 386, Bicephalous Bob wrote:
GuiltyLion has been lynched. He was a druid.

Frozen Angel and the town win, congratulations!

Yay!

GL, I almost switched at the end, if that makes you feel better.

I agree that a random Druid kill would be a good idea to add after Mage death.

Congrats FA!

Frozen Angel · Post Post #406 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:28 am

Thx ari

Frozen Angel · Post Post #407 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:33 am

congrats to town as well

Frozen Angel · Post Post #408 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:33 am

I mean Mighty Romans

Bicephalous Bob · Post Post #409 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:01 am

In post 401, Frozen Angel wrote:See mage should have been lynched in first two days. or both druids - Romans would have been lost

a single druid lynch would also have pushed back the mage win for a day

I do think this setup can be improved in this regard, although I don't think "give a random druid the night kill" is the answer

ika · Post Post #410 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:53 am

ake it that if mage gets lynched day one it wins?

i was waching the game and i have to say that the mage lynch day 1 does basicly make it impractical. alternativly all druids coudl of claims and tries to hunt mage and then make it a game of "whos the favoite"

BBmolla · Post Post #411 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:55 am

"Just cause it was broken this game doesn't make it broken!"

Lmfao

BBmolla · Post Post #412 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:56 am

Literally just make it so Druids and Romans can't joint and it's fixed.

BBmolla · Post Post #413 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:00 am

Have the mage submit a list at the start of the game. Players will die in the order of the list. The list can be changed each night. Players continue dying if mage dies.

Boom.

ika · Post Post #414 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:01 am

In post 412, BBmolla wrote:Literally just make it so Druids and Romans can't joint and it's fixed.

then wouldnt lynching mage auto end game in roman win?

i mean i like the idea of that but my thing is that it kidna a "lol day 1 win" thing that i would hate to have as a druid? probally even as a roman too

pedit: how does that work for druid i like that too

BBmolla · Post Post #415 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:01 am

In post 414, ika wrote:
In post 412, BBmolla wrote:Literally just make it so Druids and Romans can't joint and it's fixed.

then wouldnt lynching mage auto end game in roman win?

i mean i like the idea of that but my thing is that it kidna a "lol day 1 win" thing that i would hate to have as a druid? probally even as a roman too

pedit: how does that work for druid i like that too

No? They still have to kill the druids.

BBmolla · Post Post #416 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:02 am

Or make it so that if the mage is dead, the last Druid left will recieve the nightkill ability when he is the last Druid left.

ika · Post Post #417 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:05 am

In post 415, BBmolla wrote:
No? They still have to kill the druids.

ok now i get it. ya i like that a lot more im about to head out but i would like to bounce more cus this is a neat setup

Bicephalous Bob · Post Post #418 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:03 pm

In post 411, BBmolla wrote:"Just cause it was broken this game doesn't make it broken!"

come on man, that's not the argument

Bicephalous Bob · Post Post #419 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:07 pm

In post 413, BBmolla wrote:Have the mage submit a list at the start of the game. Players will die in the order of the list. The list can be changed each night. Players continue dying if mage dies.

Boom.

this might work with some rebalancing though

Bicephalous Bob · Post Post #420 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:07 pm

In post 415, BBmolla wrote:
In post 414, ika wrote:
In post 412, BBmolla wrote:Literally just make it so Druids and Romans can't joint and it's fixed.

then wouldnt lynching mage auto end game in roman win?

i mean i like the idea of that but my thing is that it kidna a "lol day 1 win" thing that i would hate to have as a druid? probally even as a roman too

pedit: how does that work for druid i like that too

No? They still have to kill the druids.

when one druid remains, they win so there's no way for town to win at that point

the joint win isn't going away

Bicephalous Bob · Post Post #421 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:08 pm

Unless I have a really sweet idea for a closed setup, I'll probably run one of these next:

3 Mafia Goons

1 Town Mentor
1 Town Babysitter
1 Named Townie
7 Vanilla Townies

OR

3 Mafia Goons
14 Town Compulsive Visitors

-On the first Day, all townies send in a ranking of all players. If they don't send in an action later on, their visits will default to the top living player on their list.
-Instead of performing a night kill, scum can arm a townie for a night.
-Townies visiting an armed player will both arm themselves for that night and die. This means that everyone chained to scum's target (but not the target itself) will die.
-The town has two lynches on even days.

Aristophanes · Post Post #422 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:49 pm

/prein?

Quilford · Post Post #423 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:28 pm

In post 411, BBmolla wrote:"Just cause it was broken this game doesn't make it broken!"

Lmfao

That's like saying a game with one Mafia is broken if they're lynched day one. Or a game with one Mafia and a number of Traitors.

BBmolla · Post Post #424 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:32 pm

In post 423, Quilford wrote:
In post 411, BBmolla wrote:"Just cause it was broken this game doesn't make it broken!"

Lmfao

That's like saying a game with one Mafia is broken if they're lynched day one. Or a game with one Mafia and a number of Traitors.

Wrong. In those cases Mafia can still win.

If the Mage is lynched day 1 or 2 currently and a druid claims, the other two druids literally can't win.