Mini 1745: Mutant Mafia [GAME OVER]

[BRantz]

That's all I am going to say on the matter. Don't worry Ether.

On a completely unrelated note, thanks for the game Skull!

[OceanWind]

Yeah, Pisskop played amazingly. He definitely caught Varsoon, BRantz, and Fuzzy for us. We're in his debt. Screw all those overrated idiots who know how to read their role PMs.

I don't really mind playing with people who either lack skill and are willing to improve or are very skilled at the game and are abrasive jerks in some way - because they have something interesting to offer.

It's the combination of being incompetent, irritating, being a sore loser, or a troll, and the stupid "I'm just here to have fun" refrain.

Fortunately, I've played with several crowds of people and in much more high quality games to know that this game and the players here are not representative of the site as a whole. And that's fine. This game was a low quality game in every way. I'm sure Varsoon and Pisskop enjoy each other's playstyle. Like VI, like VI. I'm just glad I know now how to select quality playerlists and which crowds to avoid because they have nothing to offer.

Who is being toxic here again?

I don't quite know what your problem is exactly. Many people were being toxic, yes. You could quote any random postgame post and make that comment. So, unless you have something personal or were upset at getting lynched so early... in which case, tough luck, it happens.

[lalaladucks]

I will note this is the first game where I really started to consider Lalaladucks to be a strong player. You managed being wagoned very well and, I feel, aided town a lot with your level-headedness.

naw thanks :p

i'm not usually as awful as in wake's game though!

[pisskop]

I swear I have completely pleasant games sometimes. >.>

[lalaladucks]

i think you weren't bad in that open pyp thing

[Koggz]

Also, pisskop, I did send you a PM on Night 3 informing you that Koggz was Town after you performed an action on her. Not sure why you insisted that you didn't get a notification for it. I can take a screenshot of the PM in my "Sent Messages" folder if you don't believe me.

thanks for modding skull was a very interesting game

Thank you!

not even get speak cause quick lynch

[Skullduggery]

With Fuzzy and Varsoon both giving the thumbs-up, the Mafia faction private topic is now public.

Well, I suppose I shoudl apologize to the game and its mod. The mod-job was good, and the roles were fun.

Don't sweat it. The incessant insults on Day 2 did get a bit out of hand, but considering the target of your trolling, I can't say you were completely unjustified. No apologies necessary.

Anyway, thank you! You seemed pretty fond of Xtoxm's role, and I think I'd say that one was my favorite too. More games ought to use the Cowardly modifier.

thanks for the game, Skull

On a completely unrelated note, thanks for the game Skull!

You're welcome. Thank you for playing!

[Ether]

I don't quite know what your problem is exactly. Many people were being toxic, yes. You could quote any random postgame post and make that comment. So, unless you have something personal or were upset at getting lynched so early... in which case, tough luck, it happens.

You're wrong. It's just you. Everyone else

except BRantz

has stopped.

This is not an argument you are winning. This is not an argument you should still be trying to win.

Yes, pisskop crossed the line during the game, to the point where I'm surprised and honestly kind of pissed that he didn't eat ban-time for it. His behavior toward you was fucked up and I am not saying it wasn't. He's the one who started it, when you were trying to play the game. What he did and what you did--and are still doing--aren't equivalent.

But you still screwed up. You lashed out blindly and alienated a bunch of people, and now you're doing it again.

If you want, I can PM you, and try to deconstruct what went wrong. I don't want to do this in-thread, and I don't particularly want to do it at all, so feel free not to take me up on this. There's a good chance I'll regret it.

Either way...please just take a deep breath. You're just digging yourself deeper at this point. I don't know what you're trying to accomplish here. Do you?

[Koggz]

at least i correct on brantz varsoon
i suspect pisskop also
when pisskop claim no town reflexive and quicklynch me
then i knew pisskop scum

[Koggz]

thank you for the game skullduggery

also koggz been 4 games now and already see worse than pisskop behavior
at least pisskop got better to the end

[OceanWind]

Don't sweat it. The incessant insults on Day 2 did get a bit out of hand, but considering the target of your trolling, I can't say you were completely unjustified. No apologies necessary.

If you are that offended by a detailed critique of a game, I honestly have no idea why I went to effort to help you out. Your reaction was atypical. Normally people are grateful for the chance to have their games reviewed. I wasn't disparaging your game but offer you contructive feedback on how to improve future games. If that caused you so much offense that you are resorting to taking potshots, I don't know what to tell you.

[Varsoon]

Ocean, I don't think anyone was offended by your review.
I'm not entirely sure we're all on the same page.

[OceanWind]

I wasn't talking to you.

[Varsoon]

I know, you were writing to me, nyuk nyuk nyuk

[Ether]

Whatever, I tried, I'm out.

[Varsoon]

It was commendable, Ether.
Thanks for helping out with the game n stuff.

[OceanWind]

Lol, just read the mafia PT. It was hilarious seeing scum try to justify getting caught in all sorts of ways. Explains a good deal why mafia self-destructed.

[Varsoon]

Yes, we put on a good show for you, I hope you were entertained for our custom-tailored shenanigans.

[Koggz]

You did not get me lynched. I was lynched because I claimed sensor after massclaim. Xtoxm lead my lynch wagon. I was lynched wholly because of him. The other votes were Fuzzy's bus (which I knew would lead to my lynch and was fine with), yours, and Koggz' sheep of Xtoxm. Koggz did not join my wagon when you were pushing it.

i no sheep
suspect you early on starting post 47 and 60 and so on
soon as you claim sensor i intent you to lynched after give result

[Varsoon]

Yeah, I knew the sensor claim was going to turn out poorly pretty much as soon as I posted. Still, I figured it would give me a day or two and I could even claim to be blocked.
I had a hard time pegging how to interact with you, Koggz. I had figured you weren't scumreading me hard enough to vote me over the other options, so when Xtoxm went in on me, I was a little surprised that you followed suit.

[Varsoon]

Although, to be fair, you did say you were gonna lynch me after my claim regardless, so maybe I did have it comin'.

[Koggz]

All three of you played weak games. You'd have lost a fair game and you certainly didn't stand a chance in this townsided setup.

scum almost win

[Koggz]

Yeah, I knew the sensor claim was going to turn out poorly pretty much as soon as I posted. Still, I figured it would give me a day or two and I could even claim to be blocked.
I had a hard time pegging how to interact with you, Koggz. I had figured you weren't scumreading me hard enough to vote me over the other options, so when Xtoxm went in on me, I was a little surprised that you followed suit.

thank you for the feedback
i honestly suspect you more than i let be known in thread
going to start requesting pt in all town games to help me think and so thoughts be known better after game

[Varsoon]

<3
I look forward to our next sortie, Koggz.

[OceanWind]

All three of you played weak games. You'd have lost a fair game and you certainly didn't stand a chance in this townsided setup.

scum almost win

Scum almost win because a) BRantz's role gave them an extra kill with the lover role making it two extra kills bringing lylo a day closer. b) One of our esteemed teammates had a bit of confusion with his role results leading town to lynch a confirmed townie. That brought lylo two days closer.