Shaman Mafia [Endgame]

[Brian Skies]

Didn't I put a tiny bit of doubt in you d2/d4 that I might have actually been town?

I didn't doubt my read on you until Day 3. But it had more to do with AP and UA irritating me than you 'towning it up.'

I still thought TTH was obvscum. And I still thought it was you/TTH up until AP refused to join the ritual (I still thought Spiffeh was town, and it's why I was adamant about not lynching him). If TTH ever flipped scum, you would still have been my preferred lynch.

[Brian Skies]

I thought if I started to go ham on you after you posted your copper/TTH scumread you might have had flashbacks of the game where we were scum-reading each other for ages as 2 townies (that's why I explicitly brought it up).

This actually made me want to lynch you more.

[copper223]

lulz.

[Brian Skies]

I don't think you could ever have convinced me you were town because I perceived you as scum slipping on Day 1 and I thought you were full of shit on Day 2. I don't know how to copy and paste from my phone, but I called your interactions with TTH fake in my first QT with Hito. You can ask him for those when he checks the thread.

[Toogeloo]

I'm guessing TTH lurking in the Night 2 Middle Realm is what led to my death because we pretty much had the game figured out in there, and I'm guessing they didn't want me to post it during Day 3.

[copper223]

TTH wrote in the scum qt that I better kill you as you were telling everyone I was scum in the middle world qt.

[Nachomamma8]

am glad i didn't miss a no twilight posting rule because i actually read the rules this game!

It was in the PM asking for Twilight actions D1.


D2 I didn't do the same and yes it was questionable to not modkill TTH when I had done the same for Nacho.

Never had to make so many decisions while modding hot damn people behave

yeah yeah i figured there was a reason i missed i still <3 you

[camn]

You are lucky you killed us.
You were all fucking dead if we had been alive.

So... Well played.

[Fate]

they fucked the shit out of camntsuki N1


which I didn't understand much because nightmare+kill defeats the point but I guess TTH didn't read that she received information about what her ability did as a result of the Lower World action

[Fate]

Wait, so we lost because Spiffeh copped a random player and hit TTH?

What the actual fuck

<3

Yeah our win was literally stripped by random.org.

After you gave us a piece of shit role that looked just town enough to trick us into thinking it was like a town role PM

And no fakeclaim

Yeah nice game alright.

it was a town role pm that's why I didn't give you a fakeclaim without a request ;D

Every game is determined by rng.org if you think about it so <_<b

[Fate]

The Heyoka would've won the game if all the scum were lynched first, at least that's how I would've modded it.

I'm not really defending my moderation of this game as it was predictably shit after a long absence.
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I'm just explaining why/how the decisions were made. I've already admitted questionable things happened.

[Fate]

Yeah our win was literally stripped by random.org.

I don't think this mattered since if Copper could have chosen the target, he would have chosen himself. It would have been the same result either way.

Yeah at least have it a decision made by a real human being.

As it is we literally lost due to random.org. Had we been confirmed shaman we would have easily won.

I'm not taking anything away from Copper. I'm saying this setup was fucking crap and the moderating decisions were awful.

your reaction to the guilty wasn't winning you any town points you know.

[Fate]

Also you don't know which paths weren't taken this game Brian, more people and interactions during twilight could've taken place had certain rituals succeeded. It wasn't a trap <_<

[copper223]

We also redirected Camntsuki I believe, so everything was used on them . I think TTH didn't know what the nightmare ability did at that point, only that it blocked the player from journeying, Fate told us they would be sent to a nightmare realm but not what would happen there, it became clear when we were organizing the fake redirect onto Egg what she could do with it.

I really liked the setup, I can see why some might be put out by it having high volatility, especially if like UA you are a victim of it and you can't do much to save yourself with your play alone, but if you put enough "swing" moments for both alignments and you start with a balanced setup the average game will turn out pretty balanced as well.

@Fate
What was needed for the ritual to succeed, no disruptors on it, just townies on it, just shaman on it, specific shamans for specific slots?

[Katsuki]

You guys really did throw everything at us... XD

[camn]

we are fearsome.

[Katsuki]

rawr~ @.@

Games like these prove why a VI reputation is an important one to have... I don't like getting abused by scum come night time

[Fate]

should I reavel this easily hm......

the rituals would've succeeded with just having non-disruptors on them.

The positions where for the resolution of other actions and strengthening your connection to certain elements and spirits

[Staeg]

Seriously tho, was my play :horrible: to the point where even responding to me was a repetitive chore from attempt n=1?

[copper223]

@Staeg
I've had the same happen to me when I tunneled on a townie that most of the others believed was town, usually defending scum misinterpreting it with VI hasn't caused the same amount of trouble but I tend to put them as maybe VI maybe scum and leaning VI if that's what I believe, I will not try to stop the lynch as they often are a liability and you can use the flip to go back and look at who was pushing unless for some reason they made it far in the game.

In general the best that has worked out for me in these instances is to continue to give my reads "to the empty void" and usually sooner or later someone will find something you said interesting again and write back, then you can start asking questions again; you reacted emotionally to the UA spat and I could tell you had very little interest left in playing the game so I tried to take advantage of it.

[Equinox]

Mine?