Mini 1768: Detective Conan Mafia (Game Over: Town Wins)

[Garmr]

VOTE: Barn Of Justice
For not confirming.

The whole point of rvs is to throw random bullshit to progress the game.
You are throwing random bullshit at a player who has not even confirmed yet.
Therefore your vote does not progress the game. (until perhaps they come into the game but it's better to vote someone who has already confirmed no?)

Why did you vote for someone who hasn't confirmed yet?

Because I can? I don't put to much value in the rvs stage. But

VOTE: Soren

For trying to portray me as scummy and not laying a vote down. If you hold so much value in progress, Why did you lay a completely random rvs votes when you could of used that (terrible reasoning) on me.

[Soren]

Because I can?

I can also choose to troll. Should I do that? No.

For trying to portray me as scummy and not laying a vote down.

I'm portraying you as not advancing the game state. Something I find anti town but not necessarily scummy. But I like where this is going. You didn't like that I called you out on it and retaliated in an omgus nature. Thanks
VOTE: Garmr

If you hold so much value in progress, Why did you lay a completely random rvs votes when you could of used that (terrible reasoning) on me.

Because I noticed it after.

[Garmr]

Because I can?

I can also choose to troll. Should I do that? No.

For trying to portray me as scummy and not laying a vote down.

I'm portraying you as not advancing the game state. Something I find anti town but not necessarily scummy. But I like where this is going. You didn't like that I called you out on it and retaliated in an omgus nature. Thanks
VOTE: Garmr

If you hold so much value in progress, Why did you lay a completely random rvs votes when you could of used that (terrible reasoning) on me.

Because I noticed it after.

It's a random vote it's not trolling wow. Well I will tell you where you can stick your anti town bs (a random vote isn't anti town by the way.) Even if you noticed it after why didn't you switch your vote straight away and actually pushed something even if you found if you just found it antitown (which only a idiot would think it is) wouldn't you? You only seemed to dodge that line of thought.

Lol that's also cute that you use the word omgus completely wrong. Omgus is supposed to be a emotional response with no point to it. That's why it's called oh my god you suck. I provided reasoning and you pretty much try to discount that with a misuse of the word omgus. Explain why the vote on you was scummy?

Also I will content you were trying to push me in a negative light for voting someone in a rvs stage and I believe that original intent was trying to smear a scummy coat of paint. The fact you were called on it and made a make shift reason to vote me even through you thought it was supposedly antitown and not scummy means you preplanedto vote me anyway. I have never seen a scum fuck up so fast.

[Phoenix Wright]

It feels like either one of 3 thinhs is happening right now

Either
1)Soren is town and his reasons for being suspicious of garmr are right
2)Garmr is town and Soren is trying to paint him in a bad light because he's scum
Or
3)Both of you are scum and this is some early scum distancing

[Phoenix Wright]

*things

[Turtles of Despair]

Found myself a scum.
VOTE: gamr

Waiting for my other head before I dig too deep into this game.
~Bee

[KainTepes]

VOTE: Phoenox Wright maybe both of them are TOWN??? You didn't consider that??

[Phoenix Wright]

VOTE: Phoenox Wright maybe both of them are TOWN??? You didn't consider that??

I don't like how defensive and tense they got right off the bat. It's just a feeling, but I think at least one of them is scum

[A Real Scourge]

VOTE: Phoenox Wright maybe both of them are TOWN??? You didn't consider that??

I don't like how defensive and tense they got right off the bat. It's just a feeling, but I think at least one of them is scum

if Nick had also listed the option of both of them being town, I would have called his post useless for avoiding putting down any opinion at all.

the fact that he put down the option of it being early scum distancing (instead of just saying 'lol there's at least one scum there) says to me that he's actually thinking about their alignments.

as for my stance on that vs... im not sure yet. tbh I felt the same as gamr when I saw the post saying how his RVS vote didn't advance the gamestate, but I held off to see what soren was looking for.

I dislike that Soren voted gamr for voting him, when game's reaction was similar to mine. Soren, what would a Townie reaction to your callout be? why do you think it's weird to interpret your post as an attack?

[Not_Mafia]

Hi. My role sucks. Bye

[Soren]

Because I can?

I can also choose to troll. Should I do that? No.

For trying to portray me as scummy and not laying a vote down.

I'm portraying you as not advancing the game state. Something I find anti town but not necessarily scummy. But I like where this is going. You didn't like that I called you out on it and retaliated in an omgus nature. Thanks
VOTE: Garmr

If you hold so much value in progress, Why did you lay a completely random rvs votes when you could of used that (terrible reasoning) on me.

Because I noticed it after.

It's a random vote it's not trolling wow. Well I will tell you where you can stick your anti town bs (a random vote isn't anti town by the way.) Even if you noticed it after why didn't you switch your vote straight away and actually pushed something even if you found if you just found it antitown (which only a idiot would think it is) wouldn't you? You only seemed to dodge that line of thought.

Lol that's also cute that you use the word omgus completely wrong. Omgus is supposed to be a emotional response with no point to it. That's why it's called oh my god you suck. I provided reasoning and you pretty much try to discount that with a misuse of the word omgus. Explain why the vote on you was scummy?

Also I will content you were trying to push me in a negative light for voting someone in a rvs stage and I believe that original intent was trying to smear a scummy coat of paint. The fact you were called on it and made a make shift reason to vote me even through you thought it was supposedly antitown and not scummy means you preplanedto vote me anyway. I have never seen a scum fuck up so fast.

1. I didn't say you were trolling. I was making a point that just because you can do something it doesn't mean that you should do it.
2. Explain to me how a random vote that doesn't advance the game state is not anti town.
3. I wanted to question you first than to jump to conclusions.
3. Your reasoning sucked and came off way too defensive.
4. Your vote on me is just bad. You just didn't like what I said about you and so you voted for me.
5. You're pretty quick to call me scum. How confident are you?

[Soren]

It feels like either one of 3 thinhs is happening right now

Either
1)Soren is town and his reasons for being suspicious of garmr are right
2)Garmr is town and Soren is trying to paint him in a bad light because he's scum
Or
3)Both of you are scum and this is some early scum distancing

And what do you think it is?

[Soren]

VOTE: Phoenox Wright maybe both of them are TOWN??? You didn't consider that??

I don't like how defensive and tense they got right off the bat. It's just a feeling, but I think at least one of them is scum

if Nick had also listed the option of both of them being town, I would have called his post useless for avoiding putting down any opinion at all.

the fact that he put down the option of it being early scum distancing (instead of just saying 'lol there's at least one scum there) says to me that he's actually thinking about their alignments.

I agree with this. It seems Kain didn't think about the post deeply enough and instantly thought he made a scum driven post. His quick judgment demonstrates that he wanted to find something easy and quickly in order to place a vote down. And it's giving me some scum vibes at the moment.
What do you think this tells us about Kain's alignment?

[A Real Scourge]

i think you said it there. 'Kain didn't think about the post deeply enough and instantly thought he made a scum driven post'. if you think that's what happened, then i think it follows that the action is null.
if Kain didn't think about it enough, and just thought it was surface level scum, then i don't think it indicates alignment! town Kain is doing what i just said, scum Kain is doing the same thing since he believes it's legitimate.
i'll wait for kain to respond to the reaction to his vote.

hey Not_Mafia are you the type that gets bored with games when you're a VT?

and Soren, your other points are fine and make sense with how you read garmr's reaction, but i think i should point out that a random vote that does not advance the gamestate is not anti-town. it doesn't hurt anything, it's just neutral. it's about as neutral as my Phoenix Wright vote, since even though Nick is there to respond to it, he wouldn't, because there's nothing to respond to. (he could continue to joke, but that's not alignment indicative)
it's like a fluff post. they're not anti-town by themselves. a string of them from one player is something to look at, though.

[Garmr]

Because I can?

I can also choose to troll. Should I do that? No.

For trying to portray me as scummy and not laying a vote down.

I'm portraying you as not advancing the game state. Something I find anti town but not necessarily scummy. But I like where this is going. You didn't like that I called you out on it and retaliated in an omgus nature. Thanks
VOTE: Garmr

If you hold so much value in progress, Why did you lay a completely random rvs votes when you could of used that (terrible reasoning) on me.

Because I noticed it after.

It's a random vote it's not trolling wow. Well I will tell you where you can stick your anti town bs (a random vote isn't anti town by the way.) Even if you noticed it after why didn't you switch your vote straight away and actually pushed something even if you found if you just found it antitown (which only a idiot would think it is) wouldn't you? You only seemed to dodge that line of thought.

Lol that's also cute that you use the word omgus completely wrong. Omgus is supposed to be a emotional response with no point to it. That's why it's called oh my god you suck. I provided reasoning and you pretty much try to discount that with a misuse of the word omgus. Explain why the vote on you was scummy?

Also I will content you were trying to push me in a negative light for voting someone in a rvs stage and I believe that original intent was trying to smear a scummy coat of paint. The fact you were called on it and made a make shift reason to vote me even through you thought it was supposedly antitown and not scummy means you preplanedto vote me anyway. I have never seen a scum fuck up so fast.

1. I didn't say you were trolling. I was making a point that just because you can do something it doesn't mean that you should do it.
2. Explain to me how a random vote that doesn't advance the game state is not anti town.
3. I wanted to question you first than to jump to conclusions.
3. Your reasoning sucked and came off way too defensive.
4. Your vote on me is just bad. You just didn't like what I said about you and so you voted for me.
5. You're pretty quick to call me scum. How confident are you?

1.Yes you did basically you put it on the same level as trolling from such a minuscule action.
2.How does it effect town in a negative way and how is it different from a normal rvs since others can just laugh them off as jokes. If you really believe this I would doubt your skills as a mafia player.
3.My reasoning did not suck and didn't come off as defensive. How is that even a point? Also how does me voting you you make me scum?
4.No I believe you have a scum agenda and was looking for a bs reason to vote me. You were literally trying to frame in a bad light for a rvs vote just because the person didn't confirm and guess what that slot will eventually get confirmed so how does that effect things in the long run?
5. Pretty confident for this point in the game.The same question could be asked about you?


Most of those question you asked were fucking pointless.

[Frozen Angel]

VOTE: Frozen Angel

She can't be town in every game I play with her, so by the laws of physics, and Gamblers fallacy.
This is the right lynch.

and thats the first policy lynch suggested on me!

yay!

[Frozen Angel]

Soren points seems pretty weak.

But Garmr defense is so weird at the same time

not sure what can i make of it yet

[Garmr]

Soren points seems pretty weak.

But Garmr defense is so weird at the same time

not sure what can i make of it yet

They may seem weird to you but to me they feel right.

[Phoenix Wright]

It feels like either one of 3 thinhs is happening right now

Either
1)Soren is town and his reasons for being suspicious of garmr are right
2)Garmr is town and Soren is trying to paint him in a bad light because he's scum
Or
3)Both of you are scum and this is some early scum distancing

And what do you think it is?

I can't tell yet. But I'm leaning towards option 2 so far.

[Yarrrrgami]

a real scourge is my alt

I have seen not mafia as vt before and wasn't all like "role sucks bye" so i wanna now what role he has!

I am blatantly rolefishing him cos he brought it up.

[Yarrrrgami]

@ not mafia

- what is your role?

[Frozen Angel]

I agree with not mafia claim.

that was a weird post

[A Real Scourge]

i'm liking garmr more than Soren rn. FA was right when she said his points were weak.

a real scourge is my alt

I have seen not mafia as vt before and wasn't all like "role sucks bye" so i wanna now what role he has!

I am blatantly rolefishing him cos he brought it up.

yo mollie i'm taking that as a compliment! even if you didn't mean it like that, too bad, i've already taken it

i'm fine w/ that rolefishing business, that's what i was kinda getting at by asking him about his behaviour as vt.

[Yarrrrgami]

Frosty-pirate be town.

[Yarrrrgami]

By which I mean, non-scurvy >.>