Mini 1781: Plotinus Mafia: Game Over

[Ether]

Day 1, Votecount 1

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2 Smudger (Minsc and Boo, androgybee)
1 androgybee (ActionDan)
1 Espeonage (Davsto)
1 Minsc and Boo (Xkfyu)

8 Unvote (Aafter, Aristophanes, Espeonage, Iecerint, Maruchan, Pugs Life, Roshar, Smudger)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2016-04-20 09:00:00), or on Wednesday, April 20th at 9:00 am EDT.

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@mod or Yimmy - is the setup made from only roles Plotinus has had as Plotinus, or could it potentially include any roles Plotinus has had as a hydra?

Either of these is possible.

[Xkfyu]

I... I agree but we already have such a nice looking fledgling wagon on ol' Smudger here... i don't want to abandon it....

~Nahdia

That's cool too.

UNVOTE: Minsc and Boo

VOTE: Smudger

[Davsto]

Fuck

@Ether - would it be against the rules to find Plotinus' role PMs from other games and paste them here?

[Davsto]

I propose that we post as many role PMs of Plotinus from finished games as we know, with the word "previousroles" all as one at the top. This allows a simple search to find a good selection of potential roles.

@mod - when was the setup's design finished?

is also a relevant question.

[Xkfyu]

I propose that we post as many role PMs of Plotinus from finished games as we know, with the word "previousroles" all as one at the top. This allows a simple search to find a good selection of potential roles.

If allowed, I fully support this. I won't, however, have much time to do any serious looking until at least tomorrow, Friday at the latest.

[Ether]

Fuck

@Ether - would it be against the rules to find Plotinus' role PMs from other games and paste them here?

It would not. Those roles are on public record.

@mod - when was the setup's design finished?

is also a relevant question.

Well, it probably happened before role PMs went out. I will not give further information on this subject, even information that I actually have.

[Davsto]

Okay right

Also, whenever you post a Role PM, post the date the game

finished

I'm going to do some fishing and find the date this was announced, went into signups, etc

[Davsto]

Actually, after a little think, I'm going to say -

ONLY SCUM roles for this please

- we want to be able to work out scum's roles. We don't want to tell scum roles that might exist for fakeclaims or for them to figure shit out.

[Xkfyu]

Actually, after a little think, I'm going to say -

ONLY SCUM roles for this please

- we want to be able to work out scum's roles. We don't want to tell scum roles that might exist for fakeclaims or for them to figure shit out.

I like it.

[Ether]

It has come to my attention that Aafter, Pugs Life and Espeonage have not confirmed. Roles were sent out 3 days ago, so I will be seeking replacements for them.

[Smudger]

Lol, I spend two days looking for this game to begin then it begins and you bastards go ape on my arse

[Smudger]

Time for a counter wagon

VOTE: androgybee

[Xkfyu]

Time for a counter wagon

Too late. We're lynching you.

[Xkfyu]

Plus, Nahdia has already claimed town, so they must be town.

[Davsto]

Okay so after a little ferreting:

Yimmy entered the setup into the New Setup Review Thread on the 18th of December (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p7484705).
The game was then Advertised (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p7523217) and put into the mini theme queue (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p7523206) on January the first.

So, for our possible roles:
NOTHING after 1st January
Presuming the setup had probably been largely decided when he put it into review, expect few roles to be between the dates of the 18th of December and 1st of January.

This is just to stop you wasting time on your hunts for Ploti's scum roles

[androgybee]

Time for a counter wagon

VOTE: androgybee

you're on

Gladiate: Smudger

Best part is not even the mod knows if this is real

~Nahdia

[Xkfyu]

Gladiate: Smudger

Best part is not even the mod knows if this is real

HAHAHAHA!

[Davsto]

Thank fuck, scum can't have the role I have played with as the game finished 11th Feb

So that's good

(To clarify, ClownTardis mafia, Plot was a Godfather Ninja Strongman Bulletproof Motivator)

[Xkfyu]

Holy shit...

[Ether]

Not_Mafia replaces Aafter.

[ActionDan]

@mod or Yimmy - is the setup made from only roles Plotinus has had as Plotinus, or could it potentially include any roles Plotinus has had as a hydra?

looks like a town post because this sort of question would have been posted in the scum QT, as the information would have been privately useful. Conversation previous to this looks like this train of thought wasn't premeditated.

Modest interjection: the search for scum roles are not particularly useful (or the search for town roles) as mods are likely to mix and match previous roles (if that's indeed what Yimmy intended to do, the only evidence being the name of this game) to not make the set-up transparent. i.e, a previous town role could now be a scum role and a previous scum role could now be a town role, so pinpointing the latter could be counterproductive

[Not_Mafia]

Come on Vamanos, everybody let's go.
Come on Vamanos, come on wagon ho.

VOTE: Smudger

Come on Vamanos, everybody let's go.
Come on Vamanos, forced entry post let's go.

[androgybee]

I'm the Leeroy Jenkins of mafiascum

Dav is town for this effort he's put together imo. Scum will try to look pro-town whereas this is a big plus to towns wincon. I buy it. Would help but phone posting at work ^_~

~Nahdia

Where oh where is my precious beeboy

I don't really know how these theme games based on a player work. Do the roles have to be exactly Plot's old role or can like, the alignment be flipped?

[Not_Mafia]

@mod or Yimmy - is the setup made from only roles Plotinus has had as Plotinus, or could it potentially include any roles Plotinus has had as a hydra?

looks like a town post because this sort of question would have been posted in the scum QT, as the information would have been privately useful. Conversation previous to this looks like this train of thought wasn't premeditated.

I townread Davsto but don't like the reasoning here, this is far too easily fakeable a thing to warrant a townread. Seems like an excuse to throw someone who's assuming town leader role in to the town pile early

Actually, after a little think, I'm going to say -

ONLY SCUM roles for this please

- we want to be able to work out scum's roles. We don't want to tell scum roles that might exist for fakeclaims or for them to figure shit out.

By it's nature the set-up is broken by mass claim if scum don't get safeclaims, we should just be gathering all roles. Besides, scum will do it regardless.

[Xkfyu]

Come on Vamanos, everybody let's go.
Come on Vamanos, come on wagon ho.

VOTE: Smudger

Come on Vamanos, everybody let's go.
Come on Vamanos, forced entry post let's go.

Great. Now that song is in my head. Thanks for that.