Mini 1792: Baccano! Mafia [Game Over]

[Fate]

the Nahdia shot too


I mean hotdamn camntsuki

[Fate]

DONT YOU COVER FOR THEM ARISTO

[Aristophanes]

DONT YOU COVER FOR THEM ARISTO

Hahaha!
They said in the Death PT that they didn't want either shot!
Your lynch they did want though. I'll give you that

[Florestan]

I normally wouldn't do this but how is this not insanely townsided?? Even if assasin play it perfectly its 11v2, and if not the game is insane

[Thor665]

All I'm good at is choking in LYLO and snatching defeat from the jaws of victory when I'm town. ^^

Really the issue with you in lylo is that you went basically dead silent - you sorta did it the phase before also. Your Day 1 felt good, you went downhill as a townread of mine pretty fast after that though.

Had to instill at least 1% doubt in thor, and I didn't manage to do that.

To be honest I was actually faking a lot of that - my goal was to have scum be convinced I would lynch you regardless and maybe allow a Dwlee fakeclaim to feel more confident going for the shot on Nos than on you, or to allow Nos to be lazy about how he approached you. You were never 100% ...you were probably a reality of maybe 85% though

Fate lynch and Staeg shot were still atrocious

gg dwlee

Staeg shot was bad - kinda disagree about your lynch, it was fine and offered a lot of info for town scumhunting.

I normally wouldn't do this but how is this not insanely townsided?? Even if assasin play it perfectly its 11v2, and if not the game is insane

I don't find this game any more insane than the normal town sideness that seems to be apparent in games nowadays. I kind of like it because it's increasing my town win ratio from what it used to be, but it looks pretty site wide that games have started to favor town. The answer for this appears to be that mods are being told to expect worse town play...not sure I fully buy that, but I will say it feels like there are more troll players than there were a few years back.

[Fate]

sign up for Fate games if you want a real challenge for town

3-1-9 and all sorts of actual awesome roles for scum ;D

[Kagami]

I normally wouldn't do this but how is this not insanely townsided?? Even if assasin play it perfectly its 11v2, and if not the game is insane

It's 9v2 if the assassin is successful, which he probably would be 9 out of 10 games. That's one more mislynch than a conventional micro and one fewer than a mountainous.

Scum simply played a weaker game than town did, including the assassin. Even so, Alpaca had a very real chance of winning if only he claimed something other than his actual role.

[Dwlee99]

I find vigilantes a lot of the time help scum so there's that in there.

[Thor665]

I find vigilantes a lot of the time help scum so there's that in there.

The reality is that Vigs are simply swingy by nature. It all depends on the quality of their reads and shots.

[Dwlee99]

I told them not to kill staeg
-shrug-

[Staeg]

Fate, day 1 was a joy in every meaning of the word
except for when I went to sleep and you were HANGING FROM A TREE when I woke

[Staeg]

Excellent playing with y'all (camntsuki tho ;_;)
I still find most of alpaca's posts indecipherable

[Nahdia]

Okg Nahdia guess what you have a town win now!!!!!!

i actually have 3 now! in addition to this, one where i replaced in to a newbie game where a cop got a guilty on the roleblocker d2 and there was a doc. one where fire assassin dayvigged me d1

so yakno, nothing where i actually made any difference =P

our upick game....

T_T

oh, right!!!!! i forgot!!!! we totally won that!

[Nahdia]

oh yeah thor you're WELCOME for pushing you so much d1. saved your sorry ass from gettin' chomped.

[Katsuki]

Nahdia, Staeg, sorry for shooting you.
I got far too caught up in making my link to Camntsuki obvious and sorting what to do at night that I think my daytime play suffered a bit.
I was really surprised we weren't shot N1 after Fate called us Masons, and I still can't believe I was the target of the Om Nom Nom!

Dwlee, you were fantastic!
I did mean it though when I said there were too many people who needed to die.

Ya you didn't have to worry about making the link so obvious when we had 2 pairs of eyes looking out for shot communication.

If you look at my D1 post, no one other than you would have picked up on the post where I communicated the shot to you.

Even our D1 post searching for you was masked.

[Katsuki]

Fate lynch was still atrocious

gg dwlee

That Fate lynch was glorious and would do over again every time 10/10

GJ DWLEE FIGURING THE GAME OUT

[Nahdia]

i just love that fate got the single non-PR "uninformed townie" role this game right after finishing camm's apartment where he was the only VT. RNG loves you, man.

[Katsuki]

THE SOLE PURPOSE OF FATES EXISTENCE IS TO BE TROLLED

[Staeg]

i just love that fate got the single non-PR "uninformed townie" role this game right after finishing camm's apartment where he was the only VT. RNG loves you, man.

"rng"

[Dwlee99]

I think it might be his

fate

to be trolled

[Thor665]

oh yeah thor you're WELCOME for pushing you so much d1. saved your sorry Smurf from gettin' chomped.

Is that the Dead topic discussion? He didn't buy into Flore because of you? Hilarious - good work on your part

[Florestan]

All I'm good at is choking in LYLO and snatching defeat from the jaws of victory when I'm town. ^^

Really the issue with you in lylo is that you went basically dead silent - you sorta did it the phase before also. Your Day 1 felt good, you went downhill as a townread of mine pretty fast after that though.

Had to instill at least 1% doubt in thor, and I didn't manage to do that.

To be honest I was actually faking a lot of that - my goal was to have scum be convinced I would lynch you regardless and maybe allow a Dwlee fakeclaim to feel more confident going for the shot on Nos than on you, or to allow Nos to be lazy about how he approached you. You were never 100% ...you were probably a reality of maybe 85% though

Fate lynch and Staeg shot were still atrocious

gg dwlee

Staeg shot was bad - kinda disagree about your lynch, it was fine and offered a lot of info for town scumhunting.

I normally wouldn't do this but how is this not insanely townsided?? Even if assasin play it perfectly its 11v2, and if not the game is insane

I don't find this game any more insane than the normal town sideness that seems to be apparent in games nowadays. I kind of like it because it's increasing my town win ratio from what it used to be, but it looks pretty site wide that games have started to favor town. The answer for this appears to be that mods are being told to expect worse town play...not sure I fully buy that, but I will say it feels like there are more troll players than there were a few years back.

Scum balance shouldn't be in the hands of a 3p though. Scum losing because someone who doesn't share their wincon played poorly is stupid (even though I worked my butt off to fricken out the thing). My issue with the mods isn't that I got lynched early, but that

They posted in game information that directly conflicted what I actually posted

Posting exact PM times isn't usually how that is done, and suddenly I have to make up a whole new level of bullshit.

Also again publicly loved is useless even if it works in lylo, if it doesn't it is basically just a negative modifier.

[Staeg]

I did think that the loved made you more likely to be town, for what it's worth

[Thor665]

My issue with the mods isn't that I got lynched early, but that They posted in game information that directly conflicted what I actually posted Posting exact PM times isn't usually how that is done, and suddenly I have to make up a whole new level of bullshit.

Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong though, but I think Camn was the only one who brought that up and I basically shot it down as an issue.
I'll agree it shouldn't happen, but I don't think it negatively impacted your team's chances.
The killer not reading the game (or buying Nahdia?) was far more painful.
I will agree that with the setup of this game the player who got the BP slot and the Killer slot was going to cause some swing - but that's pretty normal with most PRs, quality of the player/accuracy of reads that specific game, will effect game balance in ways that are hard to predict.

[Nahdia]

i just feel like the setup was weird bc 2/3 scum were BP, and we had 3 town killing roles lmao.