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Post Post #1250  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:23 am

I'm gonna assume the masonry and cop aren't both bastard

I know the cop is not insane, could be naive I guess
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Post Post #1251  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:26 am

In post 1175, ɀefiend wrote:Maybe the other Mafia is a JoaT with something like Rolecop-Redirect-Strongman?


This makes sense given that the redirect happened on n2 not n1

I'm gonna eat dinner then do some setup spec. I'm not sure if this is a good idea, but I'm going to base my assumptions on the idea that the game was balanced as if non-killing 3ps didn't exist
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Post Post #1252  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:15 pm

In post 1246, Infinity 324 wrote:Frank looks kinda townish too...that's too many townreads. I guess {narna, frank, snarky} are most likely to be non-town.

I would say that there aren't scum killing roles left but then the game would be over...maybe 1-shot/2-shot SK or something. Idk

VOTE: narna

In b4 Snarky and Narna try to spin you as scum for having the EXACT same thoughts as me.

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Post Post #1253  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:16 pm

I had to answer whether KT wanted the game to start during Night or Day. I guessed Day and then got my result.

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Post Post #1254  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:17 pm

Yep
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Post Post #1255  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:18 pm

In post 1248, Infinity 324 wrote:@zefiend Why are you assuming snarky is not town

Like I said (and like desp ignored) zefiend wants me dead because "lol I'm 3p lyncher"

Zefiend has not been playing town. I want him dead. Based on your info and general consensus I understand your Narna vote but I also disagree with it.

I think it's unwise to disregard the 7 faction thing and assume there are only 1 or 2 non town left. I bet there are at least 3 scum remaining if not more.

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Post Post #1256  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:19 pm

In post 1253, ɀefiend wrote:I had to answer whether KT wanted the game to start during Night or Day. I guessed Day and then got my result.


Pretty damn easy question to get right I'm sure, if you wanted to fabricate it :/

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Post Post #1257  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:20 pm

I was really hoping it would be a harder to guess right question, maybe get some confirmation

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Post Post #1258  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:24 pm

Infinity AFAIK any Mafia remaining preclude the game from ending, even if they can't kill. Or maybe their kill is gated by guessing questionnaire answers, and they just suck at getting it right.

I don't think Snarky is Town because:
-Having to lynch a Mason as a Townie for the "betterment" of the Town (in the form of information) makes no sense
-He lied/backtracked on the number of factions
-If there are somehow 7 factions, he's confirmed to be non-Town.

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Post Post #1259  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:38 pm

>if there are 7 factions I'm confirmed non town

Sorry uh how?

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Post Post #1260  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:39 pm

Also, say your role is real / you are a cop. Turns out you're not sane or naive or something. Davsto is not actually town. Why can't that be a thing?

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Post Post #1261  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:41 pm

In post 1255, SnarkySnowman wrote:
In post 1248, Infinity 324 wrote:@zefiend Why are you assuming snarky is not town

Like I said (and like desp ignored) zefiend wants me dead because "lol I'm 3p lyncher"

Zefiend has not been playing town. I want him dead. Based on your info and general consensus I understand your Narna vote but I also disagree with it.

I think it's unwise to disregard the 7 faction thing and assume there are only 1 or 2 non town left. I bet there are at least 3 scum remaining if not more.


I really think zefiend is town. Claiming cop out of the blue d2 is not a scum move.

There are 5 flipped factions. So 2 non-town remaining is possible with that.

In post 1258, ɀefiend wrote:-Having to lynch a Mason as a Townie for the "betterment" of the Town (in the form of information) makes no sense


I guess

-He lied/backtracked on the number of factions


This is a dumb reason, town can misread their role pm and it isn't like it makes much of a difference in terms of whether he gets lynched

-If there are somehow 7 factions, he's confirmed to be non-Town.


...how? Again, 5 flipped factions
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Post Post #1262  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:53 pm

For certain, we have
1. Town
2. Mafia
3. SK
4. Survivalist A
5. Survivalist B
6. ??
7. ??

My guess is dead fills one, 3p or 2nd mafia fills another, and there are outstanding 1st mafia still

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Post Post #1263  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:54 pm

I have to imagine one of zefiend / masons are NOT town. Possibly (but unlikely) both are not town.

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Post Post #1264  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:55 pm

Based on Azral v masons, the masons won't be 1st mafia

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Post Post #1265  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:57 pm

In post 1263, SnarkySnowman wrote:I have to imagine one of zefiend / masons are NOT town. Possibly (but unlikely) both are not town.


Occam's razor and play suggests they're both town

Also why can zefiend be insane/naive but masons can't be false?
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Post Post #1266  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:21 pm

They can be

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Post Post #1267  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:42 pm

Town
lane0168 - town double vote maker
Alisae - town watcher

???
Desperado - mason
Davsto - mason vig
Infinity 324 - questionnaire checker
ɀefiend - questionnaire cop
Frank Jaeger - questionnaire doc
Narna - questionnaire census taker
SnarkySnowman - informed endgamer davsto hammerer (lol)

Non-town
McMenno - survivor
Aristophanes - survivor
drealmerz7 - SK
Azral - mafia goon

This is tough because we really don't know how many scum there are.

Town probably has some sort of protective so I believe frank.

The cop claim is questionable given the watcher flip...but zefiend is very town by play

Mason + mason vig would make a lot of sense as a scum faction...if it wasn't for the cop clear. But the cop could be naive or there could be a godfather so...

That's probably all I can do for now.

But I remember snarky's reaction to the cop guilty being pretty fake and the davsto hammer part is pretty sus...

VOTE: snarky
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Post Post #1268  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:47 pm

I don't think there's a reason to assume snarky is a lyncher over any other scum role

But then again, I have a hard time seeing him as mafia or SK...

ugh UNVOTE:

I'm gonna say zefiend and frank are town. Snarky is probably non-threatening 3p. So either scum is masons or it's narna.
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Post Post #1269  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:48 pm

or both
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Post Post #1270  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:52 pm

What do you guys think about having non-threatening 3p claim and then helping them achieve their wincons?
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Post Post #1271  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:57 pm

"hey, everyone," says the omnipotent voice in the sky. "I drove on the 405 once, which I'm only pointing out because this is votecount 4.05. see, the last one was 4.04, so I wrote 'flavor text not found'. those are some of the fun flavor jokes I've included thus far."

"that's a really cool story, but we're pretty busy with this whole killing thing."


votecount 4.054 players voting for SnarkySnowman (Desperado, ɀefiend, Infinity 324, ????)
2 players voting for ɀefiend (SnarkySnowman, Narna)
1 player voting for KainTepes (FrankJaeger)

1 player not voting (Davsto)

with 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch

day 4 has ended. night 4 will end in (expired on 2017-02-19 14:30:00)


mod notes: a lynch was achieved before Infinity 324's unvote in post 1268, so it was not counted. Davsto is V/LA until February 17. also, be sure to play lots of Marathon Games this weekend!
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Alisae (03:22:32) one might even say you are
Alisae (03:22:36) clever

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Post Post #1272  (ISO)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:05 pm

"now, hold on," says SnarkySnowman. I'm pretty sure we haven't fully resolved all these issues with the omnipotent voice in the sky. after all, what if they're the one responsible for all of this trouble?"

"I don't think that's right at all," someone says. "you're definitely the one responsible for this. stop trying to redirect the attention to the omnipotent voice in the sky!"

"actually, it's pretty ironic that you'd--" says SnarkySnowman, suddenly dying.


SnarkySnowman was a mafia redirector! they will win when all factions that oppose the mafia are eliminated!
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Post Post #1273  (ISO)  » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:22 pm

"I sure hope no one died last night," someone says. "it's more fun when people don't die."

sadly, that person didn't get their wish. and also, the person who said it definitely wasn't Infinity 324, because Infinity 324 is no longer capable of saying things.

because Infinity 324 is dead.




Infinity 324 was a questionnaire checker, who could see how a particular person responded to a particular question! he will win when all factions that oppose the town are eliminated!

votecount 5.015 players not voting (Desperado, Davsto, ɀefiend, FrankJaeger, Narna)

with 5 players alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch

day 5 will end in (expired on 2017-02-26 15:30:00)


mod notes: none!
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Post Post #1274  (ISO)  » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:24 pm

vote: narna
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