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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:27 am
by KainTepes
I AM KAIN TEPES

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:56 am
by Aristophanes
In post 463, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 462, Azral wrote:you guys are making me feel so old
Are you??
In post 464, McMenno wrote:aren't we all
Best one yet! XD

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:58 am
by Aristophanes
In post 469, drealmerz7 wrote:to me that is often how it goes on D1 though

I often get shit for weak-ass reads on D1 and I'm like "I can't fake having a stronger read when it's not there, it's early in the game, I'll be patient and let them develop"
I know, but it's not just weak ass reads. That I get. It's a lack of engagement in the game that is pinging me!

Take a read there. It's a quick Iso to do. Tell me what you see.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:59 am
by Aristophanes
In post 475, KainTepes wrote:I AM KAIN TEPES
Wait...since when!?

I thought you were Not_Mafia! :P

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:42 am
by drealmerz7
In post 477, Aristophanes wrote: Take a read there. It's a quick Iso to do. Tell me what you see.
it almost all looks like towny to me, that's the towniest slot in the game atm (narna we're talking about right?)

the only thing that caught me was this:
In post 228, Narna wrote:I think Dreal is being thrown by KT's aggressiveness. I think it would be really smaret to share some of our answers. Like I actually wonder if we can figure out if the gae is multiball through the votes.
scum usually want to know if it is multiball more than others, in my experience

as town I just am worried about scumhunting, I don't care about how many teams there are

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:44 am
by Azral
In post 473, ɀefiend wrote:Way to be as vague as possible. I only cased one person, and they are doing a decent enough job of responding to my points that we are making progress. Your last statement is out of left field and makes no sense. If that statement was consistent with my mentality, then drealmerz would be my #1 scumread.
I mean. Desperado basically said two things:

- McMemmo is scummy. (He is.)

- Any interaction between players can be studied, but focusing too much on the questionnaire gives scum an easy IIoA avenue. (This shouldn't be controversial.)

This led to you accusing him of confirmation bias, being dodgy, ignoring other wagons, not having reads and generally having a bad "methodology."

Doesn't feel genuine to me on D1.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:48 am
by Azral
In post 470, Desperado wrote:
ATTENTION; ALL THREE OF THE CURRENT WAGONS ARE ON TOWN.
Can you elaborate on this?

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:04 am
by drealmerz7
ballsy scumtell?

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:12 am
by ɀefiend
In post 480, Azral wrote:
In post 473, ɀefiend wrote:Way to be as vague as possible. I only cased one person, and they are doing a decent enough job of responding to my points that we are making progress. Your last statement is out of left field and makes no sense. If that statement was consistent with my mentality, then drealmerz would be my #1 scumread.
I mean. Desperado basically said two things:

- McMemmo is scummy. (He is.)

- Any interaction between players can be studied, but focusing too much on the questionnaire gives scum an easy IIoA avenue. (This shouldn't be controversial.)

This led to you accusing him of confirmation bias, being dodgy, ignoring other wagons, not having reads and generally having a bad "methodology."

Doesn't feel genuine to me on D1.
Ok, so you're not actually reading the game. You're skimming it and summarizing people's points to what you feel. I'm not going to engage you any further. If you want to have a nuanced conversation about it (like Desperado and I did) then I will try to work with you again.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:14 am
by ɀefiend
In post 477, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 469, drealmerz7 wrote:to me that is often how it goes on D1 though

I often get shit for weak-ass reads on D1 and I'm like "I can't fake having a stronger read when it's not there, it's early in the game, I'll be patient and let them develop"
I know, but it's not just weak ass reads. That I get. It's a lack of engagement in the game that is pinging me!

Take a read there. It's a quick Iso to do. Tell me what you see.
Do you always talk to your scumreads like this?

Or are you no longer scumreading drealmerz?

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:38 am
by Davsto
I could have sworn I've posted within the last 48 hours. Apparently not.

Anyone got any question to direct at me? Am tired and didn't see anything hugely attention-grabbing in my time away except some posting from zefiend (which wasn't scummy and as such puts him up into a townier read purely on how many players aren't posting anything with substance) and a couple of others which I can't really recall

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:40 am
by xyzzy
"none of you have actually changed your votes since the last votecount," says the omnipotent voice in the sky, "but there's a couple of prods in the mod notes, so here's another votecount!"

"what the fuck is a votecount, and what the fuck is a mod notes," says everyone in exasperation simultaneously. it's actually pretty impressive.

"well," says the voice in the sky, "wait until I tell you about 'pedits'. that'll blow your minds."


votecount 1.083 players voting for drealmerz7 (Davsto, Aristophanes, lane0168)
3 players voting for lane0168 (Narna, drealmerz7, FrankJaeger)
2 players voting for Davsto (McMenno, SnarkySnowman)
1 player voting for McMenno (Desperado)
1 player voting for Desperado (ɀefiend)
1 player voting for ɀefiend (Azral)
1 player voting for Azral (KainTepes)

1 player not voting (Gamma Emerald)

with 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch

the day will end in (expired on 2017-01-23 18:00:00)


mod notes: Gamma Emerald is V/LA until January 17 and has been prodded. Narna and Davsto have been prodded. p-edit: Davsto was able to post in the thread in the like 2 minutes between me sending the prod and making this post. good job, Davsto.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:42 am
by Azral
In post 483, ɀefiend wrote:Ok, so you're not actually reading the game. You're skimming it and summarizing people's points to what you feel. I'm not going to engage you any further. If you want to have a nuanced conversation about it (like Desperado and I did) then I will try to work with you again.
Ok. I'll keep my vote on you then.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:58 am
by Desperado
In post 481, Azral wrote:Can you elaborate on this?
Think I already have. Lane, dreal, and davsto are all town.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:00 am
by Desperado
In post 486, xyzzy wrote:
"none of you have actually changed your votes since the last votecount," says the omnipotent voice in the sky, "but there's a couple of prods in the mod notes, so here's another votecount!"

"what the fuck is a votecount, and what the fuck is a mod notes," says everyone in exasperation simultaneously. it's actually pretty impressive.

"well," says the voice in the sky, "wait until I tell you about 'pedits'. that'll blow your minds."


votecount 1.083 players voting for drealmerz7 (Davsto, Aristophanes, lane0168)
3 players voting for lane0168 (Narna, drealmerz7, FrankJaeger)
2 players voting for Davsto (McMenno, SnarkySnowman)
1 player voting for McMenno (Desperado)
1 player voting for Desperado (ɀefiend)
1 player voting for ɀefiend (Azral)
1 player voting for Azral (KainTepes)

1 player not voting (Gamma Emerald)

with 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch

the day will end in (expired on 2017-01-23 18:00:00)


mod notes: Gamma Emerald is V/LA until January 17 and has been prodded. Narna and Davsto have been prodded. p-edit: Davsto was able to post in the thread in the like 2 minutes between me sending the prod and making this post. good job, Davsto.
Davsto wagon is definitely the worst. Like, early contender for Worst Wagon of the Year.

Frank's vote on lane looks the worst, for sure. Dreal and Narna have at least been open about why they think lane is scum, they're just mistaken.

@ Davsto and lane; stop voting dreal and help me lynch McMenno, ya?

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:03 am
by drealmerz7
in my limited experience with mcmenno he's been like this as town - he seems to like to lurk a lot and gets D1 lynched a lot, I prefer to give him a Day's chance and go after someone who actually has content that is scummy

lowpostinglurkers on D1 is weaksauce wagons

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:04 am
by Desperado
Do you think scum are active or lurking?

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:04 am
by Desperado
In this particular game.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:05 am
by Desperado
{Azral, Frank, Snarky, McMenno}

2 scum here I reckon

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:07 am
by KainTepes
i think THERE MUST BE SCUM THAT IS LURKING,,

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:09 am
by ɀefiend
In post 493, Desperado wrote:{Azral, Frank, Snarky, McMenno}

2 scum here I reckon
I would throw VOTE: Aristophanes in there to be sure.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:10 am
by drealmerz7
In post 491, Desperado wrote:Do you think scum are active or lurking?
you didn't address my point

I have no idea, you obviously do

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:11 am
by Azral
In post 488, Desperado wrote:
In post 481, Azral wrote:Can you elaborate on this?
Think I already have.
Don't think so. You explained your drael read, but this is your first time saying davsto is town AFAICT, and you haven't said why. (Wagon composition?)

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:12 am
by Azral
In post 494, KainTepes wrote:i think THERE MUST BE SCUM THAT IS LURKING,,
Agree on this.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:13 am
by Desperado
In post 496, drealmerz7 wrote:you didn't address my point
I don't care if McMenno has been lynchbait in the past or whatever your experience with him. In this game his active lurking and lack of engagement are scummy.