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Post Post #1230  (isolation #0)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:44 am

I'm up to page 30 but questionnaire checker.
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Post Post #1232  (isolation #1)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:48 am

I'll finish reading hopefully by today, I won't be able to post for a lot of Saturday though.

PEdit: n1 nothing
n2 frank likes 3p
n3 narna likes scum
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Post Post #1234  (isolation #2)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:50 am

Why do you think that'll catch me, I could've just ISO'd kain and it wouldn't have taken much longer
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Post Post #1237  (isolation #3)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:54 am

I'll give thoughts as I'm finished catching up since I'm seeing if my reads are right along the way :)

It doesn't help looking for associations, but eh
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Post Post #1238  (isolation #4)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:56 am

Btw, I love your guys' sense of humor in oregano but I'm not such a fan of your taste in setups...
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Post Post #1240  (isolation #5)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:07 am

In post 1238, Infinity 324 wrote:oregano


Pregame, LOL
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Post Post #1241  (isolation #6)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:07 am

O
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Post Post #1242  (isolation #7)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:40 am

Guys menno and ari were not aligned together...they were like neighbor survivors but they won independently
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Post Post #1243  (isolation #8)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:02 am

Also I believe snarky and there's no reason to believe he claimed "town with lyncher aspect" as lyncher as opposed to any other non-town role

But I agree that it doesn't make sense to randomly say there's 7 factions in the game as scum. Even if he knows it's true
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Post Post #1244  (isolation #9)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:05 am

Zefiend and desp have been pretty towny so I think they and dav are probably town as well
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Post Post #1245  (isolation #10)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:10 am

I don't think scum fakeclaims cop after snarky's claim since it's so easy to be proven wrong
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Post Post #1246  (isolation #11)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:13 am

Frank looks kinda townish too...that's too many townreads. I guess {narna, frank, snarky} are most likely to be non-town.

I would say that there aren't scum killing roles left but then the game would be over...maybe 1-shot/2-shot SK or something. Idk

VOTE: narna
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Post Post #1247  (isolation #12)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:16 am

In post 1245, Infinity 324 wrote:I don't think scum fakeclaims cop after snarky's claim since it's so easy to be proven wrong


Never mind, he claimed before. It's still a weird gambit for scum to do.
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Post Post #1248  (isolation #13)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:18 am

@zefiend Why are you assuming snarky is not town
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Post Post #1249  (isolation #14)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:22 am

I bet the extra vote is controlled by the dead
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Post Post #1250  (isolation #15)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:23 am

I'm gonna assume the masonry and cop aren't both bastard

I know the cop is not insane, could be naive I guess
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Post Post #1251  (isolation #16)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:26 am

In post 1175, ɀefiend wrote:Maybe the other Mafia is a JoaT with something like Rolecop-Redirect-Strongman?


This makes sense given that the redirect happened on n2 not n1

I'm gonna eat dinner then do some setup spec. I'm not sure if this is a good idea, but I'm going to base my assumptions on the idea that the game was balanced as if non-killing 3ps didn't exist
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Post Post #1254  (isolation #17)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:17 pm

Yep
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Post Post #1261  (isolation #18)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:41 pm

In post 1255, SnarkySnowman wrote:
In post 1248, Infinity 324 wrote:@zefiend Why are you assuming snarky is not town

Like I said (and like desp ignored) zefiend wants me dead because "lol I'm 3p lyncher"

Zefiend has not been playing town. I want him dead. Based on your info and general consensus I understand your Narna vote but I also disagree with it.

I think it's unwise to disregard the 7 faction thing and assume there are only 1 or 2 non town left. I bet there are at least 3 scum remaining if not more.


I really think zefiend is town. Claiming cop out of the blue d2 is not a scum move.

There are 5 flipped factions. So 2 non-town remaining is possible with that.

In post 1258, ɀefiend wrote:-Having to lynch a Mason as a Townie for the "betterment" of the Town (in the form of information) makes no sense


I guess

-He lied/backtracked on the number of factions


This is a dumb reason, town can misread their role pm and it isn't like it makes much of a difference in terms of whether he gets lynched

-If there are somehow 7 factions, he's confirmed to be non-Town.


...how? Again, 5 flipped factions
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Post Post #1265  (isolation #19)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:57 pm

In post 1263, SnarkySnowman wrote:I have to imagine one of zefiend / masons are NOT town. Possibly (but unlikely) both are not town.


Occam's razor and play suggests they're both town

Also why can zefiend be insane/naive but masons can't be false?
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Post Post #1267  (isolation #20)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:42 pm

Town
lane0168 - town double vote maker
Alisae - town watcher

???
Desperado - mason
Davsto - mason vig
Infinity 324 - questionnaire checker
ɀefiend - questionnaire cop
Frank Jaeger - questionnaire doc
Narna - questionnaire census taker
SnarkySnowman - informed endgamer davsto hammerer (lol)

Non-town
McMenno - survivor
Aristophanes - survivor
drealmerz7 - SK
Azral - mafia goon

This is tough because we really don't know how many scum there are.

Town probably has some sort of protective so I believe frank.

The cop claim is questionable given the watcher flip...but zefiend is very town by play

Mason + mason vig would make a lot of sense as a scum faction...if it wasn't for the cop clear. But the cop could be naive or there could be a godfather so...

That's probably all I can do for now.

But I remember snarky's reaction to the cop guilty being pretty fake and the davsto hammer part is pretty sus...

VOTE: snarky
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Post Post #1268  (isolation #21)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:47 pm

I don't think there's a reason to assume snarky is a lyncher over any other scum role

But then again, I have a hard time seeing him as mafia or SK...

ugh UNVOTE:

I'm gonna say zefiend and frank are town. Snarky is probably non-threatening 3p. So either scum is masons or it's narna.
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Post Post #1269  (isolation #22)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:48 pm

or both
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Post Post #1270  (isolation #23)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:52 pm

What do you guys think about having non-threatening 3p claim and then helping them achieve their wincons?
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Post Post #1297  (isolation #24)  » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:04 pm

Man I am so good at mafia
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Post Post #1303  (isolation #25)  » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:10 pm

In post 1271, xyzzy wrote:a lynch was achieved before Infinity 324's unvote in post 1268, so it was not counted.


Look at this

I should be nommed for a scummie
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Post Post #1307  (isolation #26)  » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:13 pm

I would want to pre-in but overgamed and I feel like it's gonna be another bastard role madness lol

I like my games within boundaries
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Post Post #1309  (isolation #27)  » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:14 pm

Meh, maybe I'll sign up once it gets to signups
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