Mini 1869- camn's revenge GAME OVER!

[Nachomamma8]

oh sweet jesus both of you knuckleheads are town

[Nachomamma8]

camn why the hell would you ever do this to me
pine why would YOU do this to me

[SirCakez]

....we're going in circles

Yes, and it's a closed circle, comprised of two binaries:
Pine either made wifom picks, or optimal picks. Binary number one.
We can either choose to enter the wifom game and try to figure out the above, or we can ignore the wifom game altogether. Binary number two.

If we enter the wifom game and try to figure out the first binary, I am telling you that Pine made the optimal picks.
If we choose to ignore the wifom game altogether, then I am telling you to assume Pine made the optimal picks, because that's what fucking ignoring the wifom game entails.

You can't go "but Pine could have picked the wifom picks!" without entering into the wifom game.
Ignoring the wifom game is therefore assuming...Pine picked the optimal picks.
But if you choose to enter into the wifom game...I am telling you the answer is Pine picked the optimal picks rather than the wifom picks.

So regardless of whether you enter into the wifom game, or whether you ignore the wifom game...the answer here is to assume...Pine picked the optimal choices.

Really not that hard to understand.

This is still going in circles. I disagree with you and that's probably not going to change.

When did mastina start townreading Nacho Gin?

A good question! When

did

I start townreading Nacho? I'd love to hear the class's thoughts on this!

interesting..

[Pine]

Mastina, I'm disappointed. Two possible strategies for drafting? Is that all you think of me, or is it all you could come up with yourself?

Also, I was wrong. The colored version of your present avatar is better.

[Nachomamma8]

Pine's not going to trust some vague secondhand glance at a game he wasn't a part of. He'd see a player as town a few times--okay. He'd see a player as scum maybe once. Okay. Now how does he gauge how useful that information is? Not being in there as things developed, his sense of context is lost. Things which were utterly brilliant in the game can come across as unimportant to a skim view. Vice-versa: things which can come across as utterly brilliant could have been the moves which condemned the scumteam to death, and a brief look at the games of those players wouldn't cut it.

I can read a player's ISO in the game and I can tell you whether they have potential or not.
I read Prism's ISO in one of his recently completed games and I can tell you that he is a player with a true gift for playing scum; not only by his in game posts, but his post-game commentary which shows that he has a fire to improve that absolutely blows past you out of the water. You're right that Pine will be taking risks because he won't have games and games of experience, but they are risks that are completely 100% worth it. He's playing you yet again, and I hope once I flip town whether by nightkill (likely) or you enchanting swarms of people to dance in your delusion that you'll realize how thoroughly you've been had.

[Nachomamma8]

Mastina, I'm disappointed. Two possible strategies for drafting? Is that all you think of me, or is it all you could come up with yourself?

Also, I was wrong. The colored version of your present avatar is better.

And it's really sad when

confirmed scum

is refuting you because he knows that you're too far gone to be rescued.

[Nachomamma8]

In order of lynching I agree

so lets take care of Nacho before dreamers?

VOTE: Nachomamma

you're looking at it the wrong way

[Nachomamma8]

oh and also the "deep meta read" that you're following is "Pine would never draft people that he hasn't played with ever because that wouldn't be optimal". please don't follow that, Fate. please.

[Nachomamma8]

My bloodthirst rises with postless hours, my friends.
I hope you are getting ready to tell me who PINE'S SCUMMY FRIENDS are.

I mean, I'm waiting on Mastin -I Opisthobranchia (I'm keeping that there because autocorrect is hilarious)- to explain to me how blatantly saying I'm good at playing scum will help further a scum agenda.

The hell were you trying to type!?!?!?

Hi Aristo! Your entrance is as charming as ever, but I need you to start content posting soon.

[Nachomamma8]

hey Fate - come kill a bear with me.

Vaxkiller's so town it makes our murder-lovin' nose curl.

Vote: Monokuma

[Fate]

ah I have this thing where I can't lynch Nahdia

camn put it in my role

[Fate]

oh wait she called VAXKILLER town?

my god

I might be able to break this PR on those grounds


WAIT I DONT WORK WITH TERRORISTS WHY YOU STILL PRETENDING TO BE TOWN NACHO

[Fate]

I really want you to be scum Nacho

just you wait

you'll flip red

JUST YOU WAIT

VOTE: Monomakubear

HEAHHAEHAHAAGA

[drealmerz7]

nacho is so
fucking town

[Nachomamma8]

nacho is so
fucking town

thanks!!
you are too!!!

[Pine]

[Pine]

Also, the scum theatre in this thread is nom-worthy. Well done.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

So Ari...what's up?

[Nachomamma8]

gin come sheep me bud

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

i'm a fuckin idiot Ari is V/LA


Not gonna lie my ass was sitting here thinking Ari was scummier by the minute because he doesn't like to play maf at all

[drealmerz7]

scumtheater here is snoreworthy

it's one of those plots that thinks it's so clever, but, you just see straight through it all and boooooooooorefest

not that the game is boring, but, the scumperformance

is

lacking - I'm sure camn is pleased, and that is all that matters

[Pine]

scumtheater here is snoreworthy

it's one of those plots that thinks it's so clever, but, you just see straight through it all and boooooooooorefest

not that the game is boring, but, the scumperformance

is

lacking - I'm sure camn is pleased, and that is all that matters

Shaddap

Don't encourage her.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

gin come sheep me bud

My gut and off memory is that I find the bear distasteful.

Only thing that's still been irking me is that I can't stop thinking that either both you and Mastin are scum and the entrance to the game was scum theatre or your both town.

No point in not saying what's on my mind, it's just that, with Mastin's gambit, she never has to put herself in risk by lynching you, if she never actually tries to lynch you.

Do you understand where I'm coming from? I can't help but feel like it's fake.

[mastina]

oh sweet jesus both of you knuckleheads are town

Legit laughed at this.
Like, hard laughed at this.

That being said, kinda surprised Nacho hasn't realized what I'm doing right now.

[SirCakez]

Lol Fate is willing to vote anyone