Backstabbers Mafia: An Almost Normal Upick (Mini 1876)

[Alz]

Hey guys!

Great game everyone It was really fun being scum the first time around with you guys.(I was the traitor with Pine and Fire)
I hope I didn't do too bad, I was really nervous and I figured I would just start bussing the first scum that game on and that was Fire xD

I hope I didn't piss off anyone who played with my play and if I did my bad. It was all just mafia at the end of it guys

[Firebringer]

you played well alz, well done man.

[Titus]

This game was a bit tough to watch toward the end. Alz, I never would have guessed that you were my opposite!

I'm sorry for having to sub out. I was really sick for a while there.

Yeah, that reminds me. Boring asked for that announcement, so I gave it to him. Leaving for medical reasons is NAI and if he thought it was legal to put in his post, he would have.

(You can always put the reason for your subout post in public.)

[Titus]

Hey guys!

Great game everyone It was really fun being scum the first time around with you guys.(I was the traitor with Pine and Fire)
I hope I didn't do too bad, I was really nervous and I figured I would just start bussing the first scum that game on and that was Fire xD

I hope I didn't piss off anyone who played with my play and if I did my bad. It was all just mafia at the end of it guys

You were great in a very complex for scum setup.

[Alz]

Thanks so much for modding Titus.

nancy, I've got to give it to you-you really had me spooked on that D1 deadline lynch.

Boring great game man, I never had you pegged as the other traitor xD

Fire did you guys figure that I was the traitor? When did you figure it out ?

Fire and Pine-you guys were great

[Firebringer]

Fire did you guys figure that I was the traitor? When did you figure it out ?

ummm i don't know if pine figured it out, but i basically had everyone marked down as not traitor but you on this last day, so it was poe by then.

much later than i would have liked, but i don't think us knowing who you were was that important.

lol

[Firebringer]

but i don't think us knowing who you were was that important.

by this i mean who the traitor was.

[Alz]

Fire did you guys figure that I was the traitor? When did you figure it out ?

ummm i don't know if pine figured it out, but i basically had everyone marked down as not traitor but you on this last day, so it was poe by then.

much later than i would have liked, but i don't think us knowing who you were was that important.

lol

[Alz]

Titus, could we have the setup and the PT's please

Was there a protective role other than jailkeeper?

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

I hope I didn't piss off anyone who played with my play and if I did my bad. It was all just mafia at the end of it guys

I really liked you for town, I think that you played really well overall. The main reason I had you as scum by the end was because of nancy scum reading you after looking at the ISO.
Other than that your style of play was really productive.

[Titus]

Titus, could we have the setup and the PT's please

Was there a protective role other than jailkeeper?

I can release PTs when I get home.

Jailkeeper was the only protective role.

[Titus]

PTs released.

[CloudKicker]

I have no idea who is spoiled or not.
Me and Pine were the main scum team.
Alz was the traitor I guess (RC told me so, but I thought it was the most likely person).

I kind of feel this game was a hollow win for me due well, not being very involved in deceiving in the end and just floating with the town apathy.

You got me, gratz

[ThinkBig]

I knew Pine was scum after his atrocious scum slip and his attempt to buddy me. Unfortunately I really couldn't push him since no one was really paying any attention

[CloudKicker]

thoughts

In retrospect, i was the only one heavily considering mylo, the grey ML + his self hammer was extremely bad for town i wouldve not lynched him.
Gratz on RC for calling the setup, 2 scum 2 traitors
I townread math hard, maybe i shouldve questionned his guilty even more than i did
I townread FB for some reasons, i think he was towny. Some of his last votes were odd but nothing to make me reconsider my read hard.
Alz i townread idk i think i gave him a pass xD xdd
Pine shouldve been lynched
ISVT Human and eventually not chara were towny
i was busy and that made me neglect this game sowwy


I probably wouldnt have lynched FB and Alz for a while

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

i was the only one heavily considering mylo

You mean apart from me trying to get a mass claim because I believed it was MYLO?

[CloudKicker]

Well apart 1svt

[ThinkBig]

Hey cloud how do you think I should improve?

[CloudKicker]

I think your pred towntold imo, i wouldt have lynched RC if it wasnt for the guilty. I dont think you did anything wrong tbh, the reason i lynched you was because i didnt have the time to invest into really getting my own read on your slot, i just prefered to blindly sheep my townread's guilty. The only way, from my perspective, where you wouldve survive today wouldve been by extremely genuine ATE and a great case on someone else probably.

[CloudKicker]

Also to be fair, RC called the 2 scum 2 traitor setup yet he selfed on mylo from his opinion on the game setup, thats borderline gamethrowing

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

Also to be fair, RC called the 2 scum 2 traitor setup yet he selfed on mylo from his opinion on the game setup, thats borderline gamethrowing

That's not the case at all.
For a start it's common for scum to not know the traitor so for all they know, RC is actually the traitor. They also knew that there was a vig. Scum would never pile on RC for a speedy lynch there. The biggest risk would have been town speed lynching.
I've never seen RC game throw, and it was never on my mind this game that RC would. It was just obvious frustration regardless of alignment.

[CloudKicker]

You dumbo, RC knew he was town, selfing as town is the gamethrow

[CloudKicker]

There is literraly no way youre playing againts your win condition by selfing on mylo regardless of the vig claim and regardless of mefias knowing ure town or not, selfing on mylo cannot help your win con ever

[RadiantCowbells]

Manipulating people is part of the game. I felt that selfvoting and throwing a fit would give me a higher chance of not getting lynched than anything else I could have done. If Math wasn't still pushing a guilty my slot wouldn't have gotten lynched. If you're going to look at it in such narrow terms, every single time I bus a player I am working against my wincon. This is a game of manipulation and I was manipulating people.

It's not like I wasn't still offering to vote scum with you guys.

[Titus]

I disagree with RC's methods with the selfvote, but as town things are desperate which radical approaches are warranted, particularly if TRing the investigator. RC's approach isn't gamethrowing.

Math refusing to listen also didn't help.