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To be fair, with another distribution of the same roles over the same player base, everything could have changed. Like, if I had the same role but Nahdia was Town, I would have been their BG. If someone else had my role they probably would have targeted a TR instead (at least that's how I gathered form the Town discussing my role after my flip). It was my choice of bonding with NAHDIA regardless of their alignment that made this game heavily scum sided. If RC himself was playing I would not have bonded with him this early because while if Scum I had confidence in his triumph; the problem would have been that if he was Town he was going to be shot. Give me a player who can SURVIVE as either alignment and I would not care what their alignment is before I bonded with them. It's just that the combination of Nahdia+Maria was too strong in this particular roll of the dice.
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Why would almost have ever bonded with someone he claimed as a townread lolIn post 1902, gerryoat wrote:Almost fked all my reads with that random bonding to Nahdia. when he outed 2 other TRs2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.- Firebringer
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He used his role so he shouldn't be suspected?In post 1899, Dunnstral wrote:I think xyzzy shouldn't have been suspected as they were with their role and their use of it
It wasn't even inherently townie role.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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Because he was scummy by play not role.....In post 1905, MariaR wrote:Yes but the fact scum already had day vigs the fact xyzzy was even suspected shocked meShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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In post 1895, Firebringer wrote:For notscience to use his role he had to 100% know a person was getting day killed by scum and correctly guess the right person.
Is it possible, yes, but highly unlikely.
For all he knew Town had a bunch of day vigis so he shouldn't save anyone.
A town dayvig firing early day one is a game thrower basically always. I think a perfectly valid assumption is he uses his power (which he can flip whenever) early in the day phase.
I think alisae role was potentially very strong - "hey guys lynch me I'm awesome if I die during the day" was not an especially helpful way to play it imo.
Friendly neighbor is always helpful, scum shot it.
Tth announcer role likely bit very helpful, but can at least be used creatively if she gets a friendly neighbor result or to get cute and push a read that she doesn't want to eat a bullet for.
And notscience, towns strongest pr, getting run up and forced to claim day one was not something predictable by design, that was another aspect where scum outplayed town in the day game. Normally you expect ONE investigation result from the slot, with an off chance of saving against a shot instead, which really helps town a lot.
Basically all of towns weapons were nerfed by towns own play and decisions.
And scum spent basically the whole game avoiding suspicion, including having BOTH major day three wagons be on town.
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I think it's hard to imagine their role as scum after seeing 2 people get daykilledIn post 1904, Firebringer wrote:
He used his role so he shouldn't be suspected?In post 1899, Dunnstral wrote:I think xyzzy shouldn't have been suspected as they were with their role and their use of it
It wasn't even inherently townie role.
Admittedly I'm not sure I like that role strongarming a lynch, especially with all the other deaths
I think it was used in a very tame/ok way in this game (save themself and kill a semi-consensus scumread)- RadiantCowbells
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NO DUDE IT'S REALLY EASY TO BE THE BETTER TEAM WHEN YOU GET TO KILL THE TOP 4 TOWNIES ON THE FIRST 2 DAYSIn post 1907, mhsmith0 wrote:In post 1895, Firebringer wrote:For notscience to use his role he had to 100% know a person was getting day killed by scum and correctly guess the right person.
Is it possible, yes, but highly unlikely.
For all he knew Town had a bunch of day vigis so he shouldn't save anyone.
A town dayvig firing early day one is a game thrower basically always. I think a perfectly valid assumption is he uses his power (which he can flip whenever) early in the day phase.
I think alisae role was potentially very strong - "hey guys lynch me I'm awesome if I die during the day" was not an especially helpful way to play it imo.
Friendly neighbor is always helpful, scum shot it.
Tth announcer role likely bit very helpful, but can at least be used creatively if she gets a friendly neighbor result or to get cute and push a read that she doesn't want to eat a bullet for.
And notscience, towns strongest pr, getting run up and forced to claim day one was not something predictable by design, that was another aspect where scum outplayed town in the day game. Normally you expect ONE investigation result from the slot, with an off chance of saving against a shot instead, which really helps town a lot.
Basically all of towns weapons were nerfed by towns own play and decisions.
And scum spent basically the whole game avoiding suspicion, including having BOTH major day three wagons be on town.
That's not balance, that's the better team winning.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.- RadiantCowbells
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The setup made no sense to begin with....In post 1908, MariaR wrote:his role...should've been enough alone
I think your biased since you knew who was town.
His play wasn't townie imo.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
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I also think that MOST players do not think about the 3p role like a50 did. My guess is most players wait and see which team is winning and just use it n1, which tends to add to swing favoring either side.In post 1900, Almost50 wrote:To be fair, with another distribution of the same roles over the same player base, everything could have changed. Like, if I had the same role but Nahdia was Town, I would have been their BG. If someone else had my role they probably would have targeted a TR instead (at least that's how I gathered form the Town discussing my role after my flip). It was my choice of bonding with NAHDIA regardless of their alignment that made this game heavily scum sided. If RC himself was playing I would not have bonded with him this early because while if Scum I had confidence in his triumph; the problem would have been that if he was Town he was going to be shot. Give me a player who can SURVIVE as either alignment and I would not care what their alignment is before I bonded with them. It's just that the combination of Nahdia+Maria was too strong in this particular roll of the dice.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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I think I agree with this.In post 1911, RadiantCowbells wrote:Did town play great? no. doesn't mean that this game wasn't townsided as all fuck.
I sucked personally.
But like I felt I had little to work with in terms of setup too.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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Scum have day vigs and then someone claims to be able to kill at the end of the day aswell? There is 0 way that is scum EVERIn post 1913, Firebringer wrote:
The setup made no sense to begin with....In post 1908, MariaR wrote:his role...should've been enough alone
I think your biased since you knew who was town.
His play wasn't townie imo.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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That's from an informed POV Maria. If scum already had 2 daykills I would have replaced out and failing that would just entirely ignore setup spec because setup speccing in a game with 2 scum dayvigs is pointless2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.- MariaR
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Like was this scum sided? Yes a little but it is not even close to the way you're making it out to be town just didn't use their powers well at all and tunneled people that should've never been tunneledI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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See this.In post 1920, RadiantCowbells wrote:That's from an informed POV Maria. If scum already had 2 daykills I would have replaced out and failing that would just entirely ignore setup spec because setup speccing in a game with 2 scum dayvigs is pointless
I thought scum had day kills everyday so you think I am being crazy for thinking scum can force a lynch?Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
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You just can't do set up spec then if you think scum would ever have day kills everyday in a 13p miniIn post 1922, Firebringer wrote:
See this.In post 1920, RadiantCowbells wrote:That's from an informed POV Maria. If scum already had 2 daykills I would have replaced out and failing that would just entirely ignore setup spec because setup speccing in a game with 2 scum dayvigs is pointless
I thought scum had day kills everyday so you think I am being crazy for thinking scum can force a lynch?I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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