Mini 1894: DBZ Abridged Mafia - Arrival To Namek (Game Over)

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2725 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:55 pm

In post 2722, Socrates wrote:Elite bodyguard. I'd have killed Lycan.

That's not a direct buff. That trades a scum for the BG.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #2726 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:21 pm

Scum were too obvious this game lol

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #2727 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:22 pm

In post 2724, ɀefiend wrote:I wanna know why ABR shot Majiffy. Without that swing, I think we would have had the game.

Thanks for hosting team. Sorry I had to drop out.

I was scumhunting. I wanted to win with the town.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #2728 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:23 pm

Then I realized scum was way too obvious so I had to switch gears. It was fruitless. I wish Tammy was scum this game. It would have made it a lot more interesting.

Clumsy · Post Post #2729 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:31 pm

In post 2728, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Then I realized scum was way too obvious so I had to switch gears. It was fruitless. I wish Tammy was scum this game. It would have made it a lot more interesting.

Why was "the scum was way too obvious" a problem for you? Just... continue shooting them if they're that obvious and you win. I don't get it.

Desperado · Post Post #2730 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:32 pm

because we would have won before he had a chance to fulfill his win condition

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2731 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:33 pm

Um
SK wins when all other players die right?

Desperado · Post Post #2732 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:33 pm

which was borderline impossible, btw

not a great role. should have given vegeta and scum more power and made it 9v2v1

Desperado · Post Post #2733 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:34 pm

In post 2731, Gamma Emerald wrote:Um
SK wins when all other players die right?

yes, he needed the scum NK to have a chance

Clumsy · Post Post #2734 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:44 pm

What Is Your Win Condition: You have two possible win conditions:
- You win when you survive until the end.
OR you win when you collect all the dragonballs and summon the dragon, successfully wishing for immortality. (This wish will not end the game and allow the game to continue, although you win even if town or scum win.)

Clumsy · Post Post #2735 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:45 pm

Read again. Survive until the end. Town wins and game is over if all mafia die, right? So he had a survivor win con as well, unless I'm missing something.

Clumsy · Post Post #2736 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:45 pm

Unless the game doesn't end if Vegeta is left alive?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Post Post #2737 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:47 pm

I think he was discouraged because he misread his win condition. His win condition was just like a normal SK plus a bonus win condition like Almost had for an auto-win.

Legit he could have said, treat me like a leashed vig and after the scum are dead, give me dragonballs and town and SK can win together.

It wasn't a shit role, he just more than likely read it wrong.

Tywin Lannister · Post Post #2738 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:55 pm

Idk... getting leashed as sk is basically a loss in my book, and that's even assuming town would go for it. They'd have no way to trust he was SK and not scum, and basically nobody would be handing him their drsgonballs at any point. His secondary win con was basically impossible. Town dont just hand a win to the SK like that. Nobody at all would trust him enough to take that chance. It's unrealistic in even the best light. I think his viewpoint on it was the right one tbh.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Post Post #2739 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:56 pm

Okay, so he plays like a normal SK then.

Fuck the other win condition.

KuroiXHF · Post Post #2740 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:00 pm

An SK isn't an auto-loss. My first large themed was a 21-player game, and an SK won.

Tywin Lannister · Post Post #2741 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:01 pm

His only shot was to have claimed vigi after the majiffy shot and allowed town to leash him thinking hes town. Maybe that could've worked for a very short time. Abr screwed up by pushing desperado so hard. I will never understand why he did that. It assured his loss no matter the lynch outcome. The majiffy shot also hurt his chances I think.

True, normal sk play couldve worked. I don't mind the role at all. I just think it would be very difficult for even the best players to win with, and idk how realistic the Dragon ball win con was. Nothing wrong with having it though.

Tywin Lannister · Post Post #2742 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:02 pm

Large games are much easier to play SK under. Much, much easier. Imho though. Far easier to not be noticed by town and not targeted by scum. Minis are difficult for third parties imo.

Tywin Lannister · Post Post #2743 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:03 pm

Although I'd still have enjoyed playing sk if it were me. So I don't see a problem with the role. It just went swingy after majiffy got shot.

Alisae · Post Post #2744 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:05 pm

I never even rolled SK before.

KuroiXHF · Post Post #2745 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:06 pm

Neither have i

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2746 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:07 pm

Only 3p I've rolled so far is cult

Desperado · Post Post #2747 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:47 pm

In post 2740, KuroiXHF wrote:An SK isn't an auto-loss. My first large themed was a 21-player game, and an SK won.

sk in a mini with 3 scum and not a whole lot of power is a hard ask

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #2748 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:22 pm

In post 2742, Tywin Lannister wrote:Large games are much easier to play SK under. Much, much easier. Imho though. Far easier to not be noticed by town and not targeted by scum. Minis are difficult for third parties imo.

In post 2747, Desperado wrote:
In post 2740, KuroiXHF wrote:An SK isn't an auto-loss. My first large themed was a 21-player game, and an SK won.
sk in a mini with 3 scum and not a whole lot of power is a hard ask

???

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #2749 (ISO) » Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:23 pm

Less lynches to dodge, less scum to worry about, less people to kill in general = easier win