Mini 1904: Rad Idea Mafia! (Endgame!)

[JerryArr]

Whoa, dude! It's 1994, and everything is rad! It's so aweso-- wait, what? Oh dear, 19

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4? Dude...

Playerlist

(

bold

= confirmed, * = prodded)

McMenno

Rautherdir

1 Shot Vanilla Town

Radical Rat

SnarkySnowman

***

TiphaineDeath

Riley Cake

*

, rep. IAlwaysWinSometimes

Ircher

Chickadee

Lil Uzi Vert

Gamma Emerald

, rep. xSoniaNevermindx, Necta

gerryoat

SlySly

Spoiler: Living

SnarkySnowman wins as

Serial Killer One-Night Paranoid Gun Owner

Spoiler: Dead

Chickadee, lynched Day 1, was

Double Protective Townie

Ircher, killed Night 1, was

Town Compulsive Vigilante

Radical Rat, killed Night 1, was

Scum-of-all-Trades Wagoning Vig

(but wins posthumously)

Lil Uzi Vert, killed Day 2, was

Werewolf Mason

McMenno, lynched Day 2, was

Town Ascetic Mason

gerryoat, killed Night 2, was

Town Inventor

SlySly, killed Night 2, was

Town One-shot Dayvig

Gamma Emerald, lynched Day 3, was

Bulletproof Townie

Riley Cake, killed Night 3, was

Werewolf Nurse

Rautherdir, killed Night 4, was

Town Seer

1 Shot Vanilla Town, lynched Day 5, was

Town Parrot

TiphaineDeath, Endgamed, was

Town Two-shot Bulletproof

Spoiler: Modkilled

None

[JerryArr]

Please note that, since my last time modding, a few rules have been changed (Prods, Colors, and in Extra #2), and one has been added (Confessional PTs)

GENERAL GAME RULES

(Borrowed and modified from StangerCoug's ruleset)

Remember to have fun and play to win, remember Wheaton's Law (that is, don't be a dick), and remember that the site's rules, as well as this game's rules, apply in this game, its thread, and in lines of communication related to it.

The below rules also apply, unless contradicted by a role PM or ruling:

• VOTING
  :
  1. Votes and unvotes must be in either bold tags or vote/unvote tags to count. Unvotes are not required before voting someone else, however, they are required to have your name moved to the "Not voting" line.
     
  2. The lynch threshold is equal to a majority of the number of living players. Once the threshold is reached, the Day immediately ends with the lynch of whoever is at or above the threshold.
     
  3. You may also vote No Lynch. The Day ends without a lynch if No Lynch beats all others to the threshold, or if no player reaches the threshold before the Day deadline is reached.
• PHASE LENGTH
  :
  1. Days last 14 real-life days (336 hours) unless ended via lynch or other Day-ending action, and Nights last at least 3 real-life days (72 hours) regardless of player action.
     
  2. Extensions are possible but only in circumstances where the Mod thinks extensions are necessary.
• PRODS
  : Prods go out after 72 hours with in-thread inactivity, with timers resetting at the start of a new Day phase. If you do not respond to a prod within 48 hours or the Mod has to prod you a third time, the Mod may replace you. If a player is due to be prodded, and has not posted on MafiaScum in 120 hours, they may immediately be force-replaced.
  
• COLORS
  : The Mod's colors are
  this color
  (#
  8040FF
  ), found in row 3, column 10, for official messages and editing, and
  this color
  (#
  0080FF
  ), found in row 1, column 15, for vote counts. Please do not use them (or similar colors) to impersonate the Mod, and please do not use obnoxious colors.
  
• ILLEGAL STUFF
  :
  1. Breaking the rules, pretending to break the rules, or encouraging others to break the rules is illegal. Other illegal things include, but are not limited to:
     1. sharing private information (PM's, etc)
        
     2. claiming scum along with another player
        
     3. using text that's small, invisible, cryptographic in nature, or otherwise designed to go outside the spirit of the game.
  2. If in doubt, ask privately.
• EXTRA
  :
  1. I am the Mod, so what I say goes. In exchange, if something needs my attention or if I screw up, PM me or bold the word "Mod" followed by what you want to tell me, and I'll do my best to either fix it, or get someone who can.
     
  2. If you are restricted or banned anywhere on MafiaScum by those in charge, that is grounds for your /in being rejected or the Mod force-replacing you, regardless of other in-game conduct or activity.
     
  3. Abilities, speaking privileges to non-Dead Thread topics, and votes are lost on death.
     
  4. Upon 4 consecutive intentional phases with no deaths ("Happily Ever After"), Town wins, unless they are all dead, in which case all living factions win.
     
  5. One "bah!" post per dead player, regardless of death type (other than modkill, but don't do that).
     
  6. Please don't engage in voting tricks or day ability tricks (e.g. fake daykills, voting a player while already voting them).
     
  7. As long as they are alive, any player may request a Private Topic for confessional purposes at any time during the game.
     
  8. All Private Topics are revealed post-game.

Spoiler: Misc. Setup Notes

MISCELLANEOUS SETUP NOTES

1. MOD CONFIRMATION
   : Anything labeled as "mod-guaranteed" or "mod-confirmed" by a mod or co-mod will be 100% accurate as far as the moderator knows. This applies, even if the moderator (usually me, if I'm modding, but can also apply to co-mods) is allowed to lie.
   
2. BASTARD ELEMENTS
   : Unless it's mentioned that such roles and/or mechanics are possible, there are no bastard elements in games I mod. The possibility of bastard elements, though, does not guarantee them. Such elements include...
   1. Jesters
      
   2. Cults
      
   3. Forced Alignment Changes
      
   4. Moderator Lies
      
   5. Unknown Investigational Sanities (ie, "Insane" sanity means a vanilla townie would be investigated as a Mafia member, however, Godfathers, Millers, Tailors, and Lawyers may be used in games I mod, even with sane cops.)
3. EXTRA
   Unless otherwise stated (e.g., in a player's role PM)...
   1. all Private Topics are Nighttalk only.
      
   2. players may use a personal ability and a factional ability in the same phase.
      
   3. players may not use abilities on themselves.
      
   4. blocked or otherwise unfindable investigative results (e.g. a cop trying to investigate an ascetic) attempting to will give "no result" or similar, which will be distinct from a negative result (e.g. a gunsmith that is blocked while investigating a vanilla townie will receive a result of "no result", while an unblocked gunsmith investigating a vanilla townie will receive a result of "this player does not possess a gun".).
      
   5. not sending an available ability before the deadline to send it results in the ability not being used, unless the ability is compulsive, in which case any compulsory elements of the ability will be randomized.
4. RESOLUTION
   : My games use Natural Action Resolution when necessary. When actions contradict or are otherwise unclear, such as A blocks B, B blocks C, C jailkeeps A, and D attempts to kill A (does A die?), the following steps are taken.
   1. If it's a game such as Greater Idea Mafia, the action whose card is numbered the lowest is the one that takes highest priority.
      
   2. If there are no numbers, or if the above does not apply, third party actions take precedence factional scum actions (as in Mafia or Werewolf's personal actions), which take precedence over town actions.
      
   3. If there is still a contradiction, permanent abilities take precedence over X-shot abilities, which take precedence over X-minus-1 shot abilities, etc., which take precedence over inventor-granted abilities, which take precedence over stolen abilities.
      
   4. If this STILL doesn't settle it, either I've really boned things up, or the RNG gods have made a mess of the setup. Until I think of a better solution, a random die roll in a Private Topic should settle things.

[JerryArr]

MINI 1904 GAME RULES

• This is a 13 player Rad Idea Mafia game, meaning there are certain role and role combinations that may be found in bastard-style games. The mod, however, will mod-guaranteed not lie to players.
  
• Each player will be dealt three "cards" from the 104 "card" "deck" found by clicking here (19:46, 2017-04-04‎ revision). No player will get the same numbered card during a deal, and players will not be able to see which number cards they received. The "cards" are dealt using dice rolls in a mod topic.
  
• Each player will then select one of their three cards to represent their alignment for the game, and a second, different card to represent their role for the game. The third card, if the game setup is declared valid, will be discarded, and will be made public information.
  
• If at least one player selected a permanently anti-town faction alignment (Mafia, Werewolves, Cult, Aliens, or Replicants), AND a majority of the players have chosen the Town faction, the game setup will be considered valid. No temporary alignments will be counted in either faction count.
  
• If an invalid setup is made, the "cards" will be redealt. If the setup is valid, though, and players requiring additional information (Mafia teammates, Mason partners, etc) will be told this information, and all players will be told to confirm.
  
• Players will have 72 hours to send their alignment/role choices, and 72 hours to confirm.
  
• Below is a sample Vanilla Townie role PM...

Role PM: JerryArr

Welcome to

Mini 1904, "Rad Idea Mafia"

. You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

Win Condition:

You are aligned with the town

. You win if at least one player in your faction remains in the game, and all players wanting your alignment gone are eliminated, or if nothing can prevent this.

Abilities:

You only have what is given to all players: Your arguments and your vote, for use in the game thread.

Confirmation:

To confirm your understanding and position in this game, PM me your alignment and role. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me.

Relevant Links and Info:

The game thread is here. The game starts with a Day phase.

[JerryArr]

I will be sending out your cards shortly. Please have your decisions sent in by 26 April, 2017, at 2 PM EDT, or in (expired on 2017-04-26 14:00:00)!

[JerryArr]

The game's setup is valid! Role PM's are now being sent out. Please confirm via PM by 29 April, 2017, at 12:15 AM EDT, or in (expired on 2017-04-29 00:15:00)

[JerryArr]

All players have confirmed! Since I did not set a confirmation 'goal', I will officially start the game tomorrow (the 27th of April, 2017) at 6 PM EDT.

[JerryArr]

Mini 1904 has officially begun! The following is the list of discards.

McMenno =

Two-shot Bulletproof Survivor

Rautherdir =

Town Ascetic

1 Shot Vanilla Town =

Town Private Investigator

Radical Rat =

Alien Prober

SnarkySnowman =

Town Gravedigger

TiphaineDeath =

Town Innocent Child

IAlwaysWinSometimes =

Alien Doppelganger

Ircher =

Town One-shot Commuter

Chickadee =

Werewolf

Lil Uzi Vert =

Town Miller

Necta =

Replicant Bloodsucker

gerryoat =

Watchlisted Townie

SlySly =

Werewolf Hooker

Mini 1904 Vote Count

VOTE COUNT 1.00
No players at L-2 or closer.

Not voting: 1 Shot Vanilla Town, Chickadee, gerryoat, IAlwaysWinSometimes, Ircher, Lil Uzi Vert, McMenno, Necta, Radical Rat, Rautherdir, SlySly, SnarkySnowman, TiphaineDeath

Day 1 deadline is 11 May, 2017 at 6:15 PM EDT, or in {(expired on 2017-05-11 18:15:00)}.

There are 13 living players, it takes 7 votes to lynch or no lynch.

NOTES:

Nothing of note.

[McMenno]

hey what's up

VOTE: tiphainedeath

scummiest discard atm

[McMenno]

oh and I'm ascetic ftr

[IAlwaysWinSometimes]

This is interesting. How much weight should we be putting into discards? McMenno seems to be running right off the bat but I'm not so sure..

[McMenno]

do you think it isn't a good way to kick off rvs? what would you rather use?

[Chickadee]

Hmmm...Interesting. I'm also not sure how much weight to put into the discards quite yet.

[IAlwaysWinSometimes]

I think with the discards we have actual meaningful game to discuss. You can RVS all you want, but I think our RVS time should examining the discards and what they could mean.

[Chickadee]

I think with the discards we have actual meaningful game to discuss. You can RVS all you want, but I think our RVS time should examining the discards and what they could mean.

With that in mind, these were the discards that stuck out most to me.

1 Shot Vanilla Town = Town Private Investigator
SnarkySnowman = Town Gravedigger
TiphaineDeath = Town Innocent Child

[Ircher]

My role is compulsive, though not necessarily negative utility.

[Ircher]

VOTE: Vanilla

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

Town private investigator only finds cult. There are 2 cult roles in the entire thing so of course I'm not taking that over what else was offered.

VOTE: No Lynch

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

@MOD - V/LA on weekends. Starting this 1 a day early due to visiting family. Shouldn't effect the posting requirement though.

Noted. ~Mod

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

So Chickadee, why does town Gravedigger ping your interest? Would you consider that a good role to get rid of? Because it's as useful as town miller but that wasn't in your list.

[gerryoat]

McMenno = Two-shot Bulletproof Survivor
Rautherdir = Town Ascetic
1 Shot Vanilla Town = Town Private Investigator
Radical Rat = Alien Prober
SnarkySnowman = Town Gravedigger
TiphaineDeath = Town Innocent Child
IAlwaysWinSometimes = Alien Doppelganger
Ircher = Town One-shot Commuter
Chickadee = Werewolf
Lil Uzi Vert = Town Miller
Necta = Replicant Bloodsucker
gerryoat = Watchlisted Townie
SlySly = Werewolf Hooker

can someone put the definitions next to these, so we know what they do? i think they can be important eventually. "werewolf" is mafia right? i've seen it used on this site to describe mafia, but on Epicmafia werewolf is a third party role, so i just wanna make sure

[gerryoat]

Based on the ones I know, innocent child seems like a good role, seems a bit weird to throw that away

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

Werewolf and aliens are their own factions. WW works the same as Mafia (correct if I'm wrong) and Aliens can only kill on night 2 onwards (right?)

[IAlwaysWinSometimes]

oh boy gerry is here!

[Ircher]

Werewolf and aliens are their own factions. WW works the same as Mafia (correct if I'm wrong) and Aliens can only kill on night 2 onwards (right?)

Mafia and Werewolf are group scum factions that share a nightly factional kill.
Aliens share a 1-shot factional kill as well as another ability. Like Mafia, they are a group scum faction.

There's a wiki page btw.

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

McMenno = Two-shot Bulletproof Survivor - survives 2 night kills
Rautherdir = Town Ascetic - immune to night actions
1 Shot Vanilla Town = Town Private Investigator - finds cult
Radical Rat = Alien Prober - Target Jailkept, plus you get random investigation of Town/Mafia/Werewolf/Alien/Replicant/SK/Cult, excepting your own alignment
SnarkySnowman = Town Gravedigger - shown as visiting night death targets
TiphaineDeath = Town Innocent Child - mod confirmed
IAlwaysWinSometimes = Alien Doppelganger - Investigative actions act as if they were player of your choice
Ircher = Town One-shot Commuter - 1 shot cannot be targeted at night
Chickadee = Werewolf - WW goon
Lil Uzi Vert = Town Miller - investigations show as Mafia
Necta = Replicant Bloodsucker - Treestump target starting next Day, faction cannot perform factional kill same night
gerryoat = Watchlisted Townie - investigates SK
SlySly = Werewolf Hooker - roleblocker

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... did=125666