Mini 1904: Rad Idea Mafia! (Endgame!)

1 Shot Vanilla Town · Post Post #25 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:47 pm

In post 23, Ircher wrote:
In post 21, 1 Shot Vanilla Town wrote:Werewolf and aliens are their own factions. WW works the same as Mafia (correct if I'm wrong) and Aliens can only kill on night 2 onwards (right?)
Mafia and Werewolf are group scum factions that share a nightly factional kill.
Aliens share a 1-shot factional kill as well as another ability. Like Mafia, they are a group scum faction.

There's a wiki page btw.

Ah that's it.
I was phone posting and haven't been in a game with Aliens for so long.

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #26 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:51 pm

Hey guys

What's shaking?

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #27 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:52 pm

VOTE: gerryoat

1 Shot Vanilla Town · Post Post #28 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:03 pm

Also, I like the IC throw away.
In this setup it's a useless role which just doesn't help town at all. With the expectation of multiple kills or manipulations to the lack of numbers which normally fall on town, it just gives scum information on easier targets. Odds favour scum in taking an IC role instead of an investigation / healing or pro active role.
And discarding instead of taking the actual align as IC just means scum won't be claiming that role (which is unlikely as align or role) anyway.

Therefore I see it as a more pro town than hinder to town discard.

The Alien discards are NAI for me and WW discards are probably the most pro town discard out of everyone, even more so the Hooker role.

SlySly · Post Post #29 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:03 pm

In post 8, McMenno wrote:oh and I'm ascetic ftr

Explain ascetic to me. I'm special ed.

ISO · Post Post #30 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:04 pm

Very little rn; I'm simply just waiting for something to happen; gerryoat --> why?

ISO · Post Post #31 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:05 pm

Why do people find roleblockers as bad for town?

1 Shot Vanilla Town · Post Post #32 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:08 pm

Also the 2 shot Bulletproof is pro town and hinders 3rd party and Aliens to discard but favours Mafia or WW to discard for an active ability. Although McMenno claimed Ascetic so it's questionable to if a Mafia or WW would discard BP for Ascetic? But it is McMenno I guess.

Overall town discards none are too bad for town, and the strongest 2 (even though shouldn't make it into the top half if town roles) are my discard and Gerrys. So at least town have an opportunity for some strong roles here.

1 Shot Vanilla Town · Post Post #33 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:11 pm

In post 31, Ircher wrote:Why do people find roleblockers as bad for town?

I wouldn't say it's bad for town but it benefits scum 10x more.
As scum you won't be preventing a team mate from doing something if you have any... As town your 1 move can cost the game and you'll most likely be pushed as scum for it because, hey, meta.
So the role itself isn't bad for town but picking it over most other possibilities normally works out worse for town in these games.

1 Shot Vanilla Town · Post Post #34 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:15 pm

Also (correct me if wrong as again, on phone) if McMenno is Ascetic then he has to be the Mafia Ascetic making him even more pro town.

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #35 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:16 pm

1 Shot Vanilla Town · Post Post #36 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:17 pm

Shut up LUV, you're breaking my heart!

ISO · Post Post #37 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:18 pm

In post 34, 1 Shot Vanilla Town wrote:Also (correct me if wrong as again, on phone) if McMenno is Ascetic then he has to be the Mafia Ascetic making him even more pro town.

This makes zero sense.

Also, can we lynch this for the discard and LAMIST?

1 Shot Vanilla Town · Post Post #38 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:20 pm

Why does it make zero sense?
There's 2 Ascetic roles if I looked correctly.
1 town 1 Mafia. Therefore McMenno has Mafia Ascetic as role, discarded 2 shot BP and ?? As align.
Tell me how that's not pro town over everyone else right now.

ISO · Post Post #39 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:23 pm

I understand now.

ISO · Post Post #40 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:23 pm

You still need rope though.

1 Shot Vanilla Town · Post Post #41 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:24 pm

Good luck, keep me posted on that.

ISO · Post Post #42 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:26 pm

Vanilla needs rope. This setup spec is an obvious LAMIST attempt, and his discard is scummy. Please vote him or you claim scum.

1 Shot Vanilla Town · Post Post #43 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:28 pm

I'm just saying now I don't get lynched as town.
And I'm pretty provable on my align / role. So by all means keep this up.

ISO · Post Post #44 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:33 pm

In post 43, 1 Shot Vanilla Town wrote:I'm just saying now I don't get lynched as town.
And I'm pretty scummy on my align / role. So by all means keep this up.

FTFY

1 Shot Vanilla Town · Post Post #45 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:34 pm

Great work. You can sit in the corner while I await real progression from Chickadee.

SlySly · Post Post #46 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:36 pm

In post 34, 1 Shot Vanilla Town wrote:Also (correct me if wrong as again, on phone) if McMenno is Ascetic then he has to be the Mafia Ascetic making him even more pro town.

How is being mafia pro town?

ISO · Post Post #47 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:39 pm

In post 45, 1 Shot Vanilla Town wrote:Great work. You can lead town while I pretend to await real progression from Chickadee.

FTFY

@SlySly --> Vote Vanilla.

1 Shot Vanilla Town · Post Post #48 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:43 pm

In post 46, SlySly wrote:
In post 34, 1 Shot Vanilla Town wrote:Also (correct me if wrong as again, on phone) if McMenno is Ascetic then he has to be the Mafia Ascetic making him even more pro town.
How is being mafia pro town?

Keep in mind your role is not your alignment.
Mafia Ascetic is the role not the alignment.

ISO · Post Post #49 (ISO) » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:45 pm

SHH!!!